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raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43270 Posts
September 05 2015 00:24 GMT
#288
scott goes to townpile
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raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43270 Posts
September 05 2015 00:26 GMT
#291
On September 05 2015 09:25 yamato77 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 05 2015 09:15 n00bKing wrote:
On September 05 2015 09:00 yamato77 wrote:
My ability to read rayn, which spans some 20 or so games and 2 years.

Okay, so from a meta-read standpoint, help me out here:

Does rayn leap to ridiculous conclusions with no basis as either allegiance? Or only when he's Town?
On September 05 2015 09:00 yamato77 wrote:
Also, for objective criteria, he is the loudest, most active player early on in the game when mafia is given no incentive to push the envelope and make waves.

"Active" doesn't make someone Town, and "loud" especially doesn't make someone Town.
On September 05 2015 09:00 yamato77 wrote:
Your vote on him is terrible and I read it as intentionally antagonistic towards a player with a penchant for getting all bothered by this kind of silliness.

If he has a penchant for being bothered by silliness, that's his fault, not mine. You should applaud me for giving him some practice at controlling himself.

trash tier post

yeah like the dude literally says he does not know what to expect from me then calls me scum for it.
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raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43270 Posts
September 05 2015 00:39 GMT
#300
On September 05 2015 09:30 MoosyDoosy wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 05 2015 07:46 Breshke wrote:
So do we just sit back and wait for the yamato/rayn magic to happen?

This was Breshke's post. In this his tone is sarcastic which matches his general acerbic posting.

I don't see why you would say this:

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On September 05 2015 08:24 raynpelikoneet wrote:
On September 05 2015 08:22 MoosyDoosy wrote:
On September 05 2015 08:19 MoosyDoosy wrote:
On September 05 2015 08:17 raynpelikoneet wrote:
On September 05 2015 08:07 MoosyDoosy wrote:
On September 05 2015 07:56 raynpelikoneet wrote:
On September 05 2015 07:53 yamato77 wrote:
Of all the people in the game, I have the least reasons to like GB's posting.

I want him to answer me.
I dislike Breshke the most.

The "do we just wait yamato/rayn magic to happen" is out of place as he doesn't even think either of us is necessarily town and idk.. it's jsut totally out of place, the whole post. Like is anyone even suggesting anything like that? Or like following your suggestion that "we should destroy mafia rayn"... Like that doesn't mean we will jsut own the thread and noone else has nothing to say about anything.

meh.. idk how to explain, the post is just terrible, doesn't make any sense and the timing goes along the same path.

I feel like it's NAI. It's probably a mix of pun and an observation. If yo uboth are town then you both are going to show something for it. and if u don't then it's an easy way to make some reads off of making an inner circle early on yeah? just some thoughts

Of course we are. The reason i am reading yamato town is because i talked with him on TS last night and he has rolled mafia for like 5 games in a row or something and i told him "hey let's wreck mafia if we are both town, it would be nice to play with you when you are actually town and play".

He basically promised to play in his first post, because he seems interested in the game and happy. If it's a fake post then i will 100% figure it out based on his play AFTERWARDS, but as per now there is zero reason to think yamato is mafia.

I don't really get what you are saying here. Like are you suggesting posts that do not make any sense and do not help town find mafia are not scummy? Because in my opinion they are. Again there was no reason for him to make the post from town perspective, hell he himself clarified that already. Like obviously he is not 100% mafia, which is why i am not voting for him, but that was a HUGE red flag for me. So if Breshke is town he better shape up, because he is actually a decent player when he plays, and i expect everyone who is town to play. What he did so far is far from decent.

Superbia can go to townpile aswell.

l0l ok. thnx for the background story which helps make ur and yamato's posts make sense.

and no im not saying what ur saying doesn't make sense. what i AM saying is that ur nitpicking over a post. because i actually thought that u and yamato associating with each other was a bit strange and i was looking to see what u guys did further.

I always nitpick over posts. That's how you find scum.

And yes the latter part of your post is reasonable, that's how i would think people react. It's not how Breshke reacted though...


He's basically saying he's waiting to see what you guys will do but you're saying that's not what he said?

Also thoughts on the evolution of your read on Breshke. At first you think he's very likely to be Mafia then seem to waffle and say we'll have to see later on. Also around this time you seem to want to kill GlowingBear. I don't like how you give up one thing when GlowingBear starts to seem like a better lynch target with his terrible shenanigans.

Here is my read evolution of Breshke:
- I saw a post i think makes no sense from town perspective.
- I asked him about it.
- He answered, and then i said "it does not make any sense from town perspective".
- I pushed him further, because i wanted a reaction (a better elaboration, in case he is town) and i wanted to make sure he knows i have my eyes on him because he CAN be lazy as town, but if he is town i don't want to allow him to be lazy, and i wanted him to know he does know that.
- He said "okay, my post was indeed fluff, but idk what to expect from people at that point of the game"
- That makes sense to me, i didn't even originally think about that. But now that he said it it makes a bit more sense.
- Then i responded him basically with saying "if you are town you will play, okay"
- After that his posting has been better, so i have a reason to believe he is not in fact mafia -> his behavior now to me makes more sense.

I focused onto both Breshke and Glowingbear at the same time. I already knew what i would say regarding how GB answers me. I want to cut out the stupidity from this game. Again, i have not been pushing GB, and again, i don't even care if he is mafia or not, he earned himself a spot in "ignore pile", if someone else wants to figure him out do it. I think it's more likely that he is mafia fro what i have said but i am not sure.

My "timing" on Breshke/GB thing has nothing to do with anything for reals.

I think the most likely people who are mafia in this game atm are Slam & Noobking.
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raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43270 Posts
September 05 2015 00:39 GMT
#301
On September 05 2015 09:32 CopCake wrote:
I don't like Moosy

but I'm trying to figure out who could be his partner

I am pretty sure Moosy is not mafia tbh.
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raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43270 Posts
September 05 2015 00:40 GMT
#303
Just because his last post shows a clear logical thought process, it makes a lot of sense he would think that way.
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raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43270 Posts
September 05 2015 00:43 GMT
#304
##vote: n00bKing
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raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43270 Posts
September 05 2015 00:45 GMT
#308
dude he said that himself
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raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43270 Posts
September 05 2015 00:47 GMT
#310
and that's why noobking is mafia.

- calls me mafia for something he does not know if it makes me mafia by his definition:
Does rayn leap to ridiculous conclusions with no basis as either allegiance? Or only when he's Town?

which is literally GB's case on me.

- "I'm not sure his (Breshke's) tone was sarcastic, but we can have him clarify. "
when:
On September 05 2015 08:04 Breshke wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 05 2015 08:02 Superbia wrote:
Breshke, what were your thoughts behind that post?


I was 100% posting just to post.



gg found scum.
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raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43270 Posts
September 05 2015 00:49 GMT
#312
On September 05 2015 09:46 CopCake wrote:
Sorry I am busy and how can Moosy be town?

Like he said "rayn calmed down when cake arrived"

Like how the fuck does he has that kind of info that we get along extremely too well?

That's why I asked he says he was playing but he got it extremely right.

he was joking....

like idk, if he "got that info from somewhere" where? am i scum? are you scum? or what?
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raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43270 Posts
September 05 2015 00:50 GMT
#314
On September 05 2015 09:49 n00bKing wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 05 2015 09:45 MoosyDoosy wrote:
copcake can u post reads rather than throwing out pointless one-liners please. i'd love to town read u but i can't do that if u don't post.

There's no need to be trying to press someone for reads at this point. Allow CopCake to participate in the way that he/she is comfortable doing, instead of giving him/her an excuse to make some worthless list post and then clam up or leave.

she is way better player than you are so she will not "clam up".
at least if you are town in this game rofl.
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raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43270 Posts
September 05 2015 00:53 GMT
#318
[QUOTE]On September 05 2015 09:49 MoosyDoosy wrote:
[QUOTE]On September 05 2015 09:46 CopCake wrote:

these posts show that he's going to be nice around you. then when u enter the thread he stopped cursing immediately and started using smiley face emoticons. ( )

also, my post was in no way serious. i was just making a joke there while noting a possible association.[/QUOTE]
tbh i haven't been mad in this game at all.
i am having happy times.
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raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43270 Posts
September 05 2015 00:54 GMT
#321
On September 05 2015 09:52 n00bKing wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 05 2015 09:47 raynpelikoneet wrote:
and that's why noobking is mafia.

- calls me mafia for something he does not know if it makes me mafia by his definition

By my definition of what?
Show nested quote +
Does rayn leap to ridiculous conclusions with no basis as either allegiance? Or only when he's Town?

Show nested quote +
On September 05 2015 09:47 raynpelikoneet wrote:
- "I'm not sure his (Breshke's) tone was sarcastic, but we can have him clarify. "
when:
On September 05 2015 08:04 Breshke wrote:
On September 05 2015 08:02 Superbia wrote:
Breshke, what were your thoughts behind that post?

I was 100% posting just to post.

gg found scum.

If you're Town, you're embarrassing yourself. Someone "posting just to post" does NOT mean they were being sarcastic.

Glowingbear's case on me is "rayn is making ridiculous conclusions with no basis"
noobking says "##vote rayn"
noobking says "GB's case is good"
noobking says "Does rayn leap to ridiculous conclusions with no basis as either allegiance? Or only when he's Town?"

By your own definition you should not think i am mafia.
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raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43270 Posts
September 05 2015 00:55 GMT
#322
On September 05 2015 09:54 MoosyDoosy wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 05 2015 09:50 raynpelikoneet wrote:
On September 05 2015 09:49 n00bKing wrote:
On September 05 2015 09:45 MoosyDoosy wrote:
copcake can u post reads rather than throwing out pointless one-liners please. i'd love to town read u but i can't do that if u don't post.

There's no need to be trying to press someone for reads at this point. Allow CopCake to participate in the way that he/she is comfortable doing, instead of giving him/her an excuse to make some worthless list post and then clam up or leave.

she is way better player than you are so she will not "clam up".
at least if you are town in this game rofl.

aight let's back off a bit folks. i don't need u 2 fighting rite now when im townreading u both.

wel lyou should not be townreading noobking.
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raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43270 Posts
September 05 2015 00:59 GMT
#326
On September 05 2015 09:58 Breshke wrote:
Is it that time? Are we going to start measuring dicks soon? Noobking didnt you purposly antagonize people in the game we played together and you were mafia?

Rayn you said you liked what moosey was doing not how he was doing it. OR something along those lines can you explain it. I can go find the post if need be.

I liked the post where he was asking about my thought process of my read evolvement on you.
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raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43270 Posts
September 05 2015 01:00 GMT
#328
On September 05 2015 09:30 MoosyDoosy wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 05 2015 07:46 Breshke wrote:
So do we just sit back and wait for the yamato/rayn magic to happen?

This was Breshke's post. In this his tone is sarcastic which matches his general acerbic posting.

I don't see why you would say this:

Show nested quote +
On September 05 2015 08:24 raynpelikoneet wrote:
On September 05 2015 08:22 MoosyDoosy wrote:
On September 05 2015 08:19 MoosyDoosy wrote:
On September 05 2015 08:17 raynpelikoneet wrote:
On September 05 2015 08:07 MoosyDoosy wrote:
On September 05 2015 07:56 raynpelikoneet wrote:
On September 05 2015 07:53 yamato77 wrote:
Of all the people in the game, I have the least reasons to like GB's posting.

I want him to answer me.
I dislike Breshke the most.

The "do we just wait yamato/rayn magic to happen" is out of place as he doesn't even think either of us is necessarily town and idk.. it's jsut totally out of place, the whole post. Like is anyone even suggesting anything like that? Or like following your suggestion that "we should destroy mafia rayn"... Like that doesn't mean we will jsut own the thread and noone else has nothing to say about anything.

meh.. idk how to explain, the post is just terrible, doesn't make any sense and the timing goes along the same path.

I feel like it's NAI. It's probably a mix of pun and an observation. If yo uboth are town then you both are going to show something for it. and if u don't then it's an easy way to make some reads off of making an inner circle early on yeah? just some thoughts

Of course we are. The reason i am reading yamato town is because i talked with him on TS last night and he has rolled mafia for like 5 games in a row or something and i told him "hey let's wreck mafia if we are both town, it would be nice to play with you when you are actually town and play".

He basically promised to play in his first post, because he seems interested in the game and happy. If it's a fake post then i will 100% figure it out based on his play AFTERWARDS, but as per now there is zero reason to think yamato is mafia.

I don't really get what you are saying here. Like are you suggesting posts that do not make any sense and do not help town find mafia are not scummy? Because in my opinion they are. Again there was no reason for him to make the post from town perspective, hell he himself clarified that already. Like obviously he is not 100% mafia, which is why i am not voting for him, but that was a HUGE red flag for me. So if Breshke is town he better shape up, because he is actually a decent player when he plays, and i expect everyone who is town to play. What he did so far is far from decent.

Superbia can go to townpile aswell.

l0l ok. thnx for the background story which helps make ur and yamato's posts make sense.

and no im not saying what ur saying doesn't make sense. what i AM saying is that ur nitpicking over a post. because i actually thought that u and yamato associating with each other was a bit strange and i was looking to see what u guys did further.

I always nitpick over posts. That's how you find scum.

And yes the latter part of your post is reasonable, that's how i would think people react. It's not how Breshke reacted though...


He's basically saying he's waiting to see what you guys will do but you're saying that's not what he said?

Also thoughts on the evolution of your read on Breshke. At first you think he's very likely to be Mafia then seem to waffle and say we'll have to see later on. Also around this time you seem to want to kill GlowingBear. I don't like how you give up one thing when GlowingBear starts to seem like a better lynch target with his terrible shenanigans.

Like this is a really townie post.
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raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43270 Posts
September 05 2015 01:00 GMT
#330
On September 05 2015 09:59 MoosyDoosy wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 05 2015 09:55 raynpelikoneet wrote:
On September 05 2015 09:54 MoosyDoosy wrote:
On September 05 2015 09:50 raynpelikoneet wrote:
On September 05 2015 09:49 n00bKing wrote:
On September 05 2015 09:45 MoosyDoosy wrote:
copcake can u post reads rather than throwing out pointless one-liners please. i'd love to town read u but i can't do that if u don't post.

There's no need to be trying to press someone for reads at this point. Allow CopCake to participate in the way that he/she is comfortable doing, instead of giving him/her an excuse to make some worthless list post and then clam up or leave.

she is way better player than you are so she will not "clam up".
at least if you are town in this game rofl.

aight let's back off a bit folks. i don't need u 2 fighting rite now when im townreading u both.

wel lyou should not be townreading noobking.

no. he is actually acting very much like n00bKing in this game. it's that classical mix of searching/antagonism/focus on logic which i recognize all too easily.


I lol'd because i just pointed out why there is zero logic.
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raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43270 Posts
September 05 2015 01:01 GMT
#332
Like he is arguing in circles as he was doing in the last NSM game. He is not even trying to understand what people say and it shows.
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raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43270 Posts
September 05 2015 01:04 GMT
#333
On September 05 2015 10:01 GlowingBear wrote:
Noob can you explain why did you vote Rayn when you said he could say retarded things as town also?

Hey, you can get out of the pile if you want to.
Please do make sense okay? And do not distract the game if you are town.
Please.
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raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43270 Posts
September 05 2015 01:06 GMT
#336
Cakeycake what's your read on Noobking?
And do you think someone (else - if not him) is mafia?
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raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43270 Posts
September 05 2015 01:07 GMT
#337
On September 05 2015 10:05 MoosyDoosy wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 05 2015 09:57 n00bKing wrote:
On September 05 2015 09:54 Breshke wrote:
Im confused. Which post are people asking if it was sarcastic? The yamato/rayn one?

IDK if i would call it sarcasm it was more a joke im not sure if it is exactly sarcasm though because if rayn and yamato are town and both want to try hard this game then I believe they can very likely get us scum lynches.

That is the post in question, yes. And thanks for clarifying. Because that's exactly how I read the post from you, INSTEAD OF as sarcastic.

-shrugs- sarcastic or not i read it the same way. the post was not serious.

but the thing is i never called it "serious".
I called it fluff. Which i associate with scum, and Breshke confirmed himself.

And this dude is calling me mafia for it. :p
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