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On September 07 2015 07:10 Superbia wrote:Show nested quote +On September 07 2015 07:07 n00bKing wrote:On September 07 2015 06:57 Superbia wrote:On September 07 2015 06:55 n00bKing wrote:On September 07 2015 06:49 Superbia wrote:On September 07 2015 06:45 Alakaslam wrote:On September 07 2015 06:38 yamato77 wrote:On September 07 2015 06:36 Superbia wrote:This is the soft in question: + Show Spoiler +On September 06 2015 06:44 n00bKing wrote:Show nested quote +On September 06 2015 06:35 yamato77 wrote:
Your reputation is fast becoming one of a whiny little bitch who is mad he's going to get lynched Again, I do NOT expect to be lynched. Claim it, bitch. that's just him being a cocky shit Right. On some platforms that is how people soft-claim PR. I personally thought it may well have been a soft. And what is supposed to be the benefit to the Town of you trying to coerce me into turning a soft claim into a hard claim, with someone other than myself being in the Noose at that moment? Because I think you're mafia at this point in time. And I think that soft may have caused people to reconsider (including myself) and I don't want you to get a pass because of it. Right, it made you reconsider me so much that you put your vote on me the instant yamato gave GB the vote lead in my place, and you've kept your vote there ever since. I don't think any of the people that moved their vote off of me did so because "he's possibly/probably a blue role." I mean, you can ask 'em yourself, but I expect they completely disregarded that in their decision-making. You go after the players you think are Scummy, and you react to a claim once there IS one, and not when you think there *might* be one. So I maintain that by trying to get me to give up the goods on which role I have, you're hurting the Town. You are literally associating my alignment with GB, who you think is town. So that makes me town. Why have you been arguing with me again the entire EoD, instead of analyzing the "both town" wagons and finding a mafia to push on?
bingo
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On September 07 2015 07:12 yamato77 wrote:
It would be quite amazing if both GB and NK were mafia.
they are. 
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On September 07 2015 07:16 yamato77 wrote:
nope, lynch with fire
i am actually heavily considering to just doing this.
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On September 07 2015 07:17 yamato77 wrote:
NO NO NO NO NO
No fucking doctor softs blue at the start of the day, jokingly or not
this
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On September 07 2015 07:18 MoosyDoosy wrote:
fuck. what do we do rayn. believe him or not??
do not
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On September 07 2015 07:20 GlowingBear wrote:
Lol GB, if you are town I hope you fucking learn how to play because i have no words to say how stupid you are for your play this whole phase
ftfy
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On September 07 2015 07:21 GlowingBear wrote:Show nested quote +On September 07 2015 07:20 n00bKing wrote:On September 07 2015 07:17 GlowingBear wrote:
JESUS I SAID I WAS VIGI BECAUSE MAFIA KNOW THE ROLES SO I WOULDNT BE SHOT AR NIHJT If you claim Vigilante in a ruleset where you're the Doctor, the Cop would know you are lying. So he just checks me at night if he is smart. Then he gets a green check on me and I keep alive. That's why I didn't want to talk about my claim.
BWAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAH!
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On September 07 2015 07:22 Fidei86 wrote:
Meh, my reads are all wrong, but lynching into the doctor claim seems dumb. Switched to MD.
no no no.
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On September 07 2015 07:24 NocturneMage wrote:
Fidei, vote Copcake please. Moosy, you were going to present a case on her - let's see it.
When is eod?
this guy is scum.
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5min, the only acceptable switch is noobking.
what do we do?
quick,.
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##Unvote
##Vote: n00bKing
Ifcake gets lynched i am going to fucking yell at every single piece of shit of you who voted for her.
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On September 07 2015 07:27 yamato77 wrote:Show nested quote +On September 07 2015 07:26 MoosyDoosy wrote:On September 07 2015 07:25 Superbia wrote:
Switch to noobking. im not up for this. gb's thought process makes ABSOLUTELY NO SENSE. why would he think cop would check him unless he's godfather??? do not underestimate GB's ability to be dumb
mmm this
he's dead anyways on D2.
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On September 07 2015 07:28 MoosyDoosy wrote:Show nested quote +On September 07 2015 07:27 yamato77 wrote:On September 07 2015 07:26 MoosyDoosy wrote:On September 07 2015 07:25 Superbia wrote:
Switch to noobking. im not up for this. gb's thought process makes ABSOLUTELY NO SENSE. why would he think cop would check him unless he's godfather??? do not underestimate GB's ability to be dumb he is playing like trash then lol
tbh he always is.
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time to re-evaluate this shit tomorrow.
how can... how can people play that way? i am fucking puzzled.
gonna go play voice mafia.
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On September 07 2015 07:46 MoosyDoosy wrote:Show nested quote +On September 07 2015 07:45 raynpelikoneet wrote:
time to re-evaluate this shit tomorrow.
how can... how can people play that way? i am fucking puzzled.
gonna go play voice mafia. ugh rayn i told u n00bking was town
there was no reason to.
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let's go play voice, tomorrow is a new day.
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I think the following people are mafia:
NocturneMage, Slam, Fidei.
meh i don't fucking know, maybe i am wrong on one of those and Moosy is actualyl scum.
There is a chance GlowingBear is scum, but it will sort out itself anyways so i don't really care.
I don't really feel like writing a lot of stuff now.
NM:
totally isn't reading the thread properly. There are things like:
Pretty sure n00b was interacting/pushing rayn at least the first half of the cycle.
noobking himself said he wasn't pushing me. he is either not reading, or for some reason doesn't care.
Furthermore he scumreads both noobking and Cake. Apparently noobkign was just being terrible all game but there was ZERO chance both of noobking and Cake are mafia, so scumreading both of htem makes absolutely no sense. Like his reads are not logical, and they do not make any sense at all. He isn't listening to what other people say at all. He is just calling some people scum for no reason.
Fidei feels like he is not even in the game. Like he is just here and not doing anything at all. idk... i can't explain it better, he jsut isn't doing anything. And the vote switch from GB to boxer was super terrible, there is no way ANYONE should do that if they want to save someone. There was no chance boxerfred is gonna get lynched either way.
Slam is scum. I don't care yamato, sorry. He is just scum because he isn't listening to me and he is not answering me. He dodges fucking questions and i don't like it. Kill with fire.
If i am wrong on something then it's probably Moosy who is the last mafia. The noobking/cake read he had is like super bad and feels like he just wants two townies lynched.
If you are do not lynch Cake on D2. She is not mafia and you should not trust people who want to lynch her. Mafia is gonna try that 100%. I promise. Glowingbear if you are town get your head out of your fucking ass and eat roleblocks for the rest of the game. Also if you do not doc me you are terrible as fuck. I don't care what you think. You have been super bad in this game and now is time to start playing properly if you are not mafia.
yamato you can do this. I believe in you and Cake. Work together please and solve this shit.
boxerfred and scott are not scum either. When they posted they talked about relevant things and had logical conclusions on stuff. If you compare this to for example James there is a huge fucking difference in how they approach the game. It should be really easy to see. Those are also lynches mafia is going to push (boxer/scott), they are easy to lynch because they do not generally post much. Townies do not fall into the trap. Superbia is not mafia either, ESPECIALLY if GB is town. It doesn't make any sense for him to push the lynch against GB if that was the case. If GB is mafia, i'd put Superbia into null-category. That could make sense. Although atm i do not believe GB to be mafia so only if he is scum and you guys catch him somehow, then re-evaluate Superbia.
Mafia is basically in NM, James, Slam, Moosy(?) and GB(?).
The last one will sort itself out, so do not worry about him. He'll claim roleblocked anyways. Do not claim in case GB is scum and you are blue, until someone who is town (basically not from the list above) is gonna get lynched.
I would probably lynch Slam on D2. His posts have zero substance, and they don't even make any sense from slam!logic!pov. Again, he fails to answer questions that are super clear. Do not let him get away with it.
I am sorry i did that on D1.
goodluck
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On September 07 2015 18:56 boxerfred wrote:It's strange with fidei. I mean, I went through his filter and what struck out to me is that while his reads make sense and do progress and stay conclusive and on point, his votes don't. Fidei talks a lot about n00bKing and a bit less about MoosyDoosy day 1. He clearly got his focus on these two players so he should be happy with the n00bKing wagon once it went off. However as soon as I entered the thread, fidei thought it would be a great thing to vote for me, based off literally one post I made which basically said "Hey guys, I'm here, I'm not inactive". I get that someone would vote me as long as I'm not there (policy) but why would you vote for an afk lurker as soon as he returns? This is like the first thing I don't understand about fidei. Next up, in the middle of EoD drama, he jumps off the GB wagon, sets his vote on someone completely irrelevant, then gets back on the next wagon which is kinda safe to vote with. I understand that he's not voting GB. I understand that he jumps in n00bKings face. I don't understand why he voted how he voted. I'm trying to figure out if that is scum indicative or paranoid town indicative. Diving into the filter a second time, there's this: Show nested quote +On September 06 2015 08:54 Fidei86 wrote:
Can I ask you a question - what is your read on Yamato? He seems to think that you are hard town reading each other. Are you? If you are reading him town, why? Well, there was 0 follow up on this. Zero. What is the point of these questions then? Also, this: + Show Spoiler [full post] +On September 06 2015 08:47 Fidei86 wrote:It seems to me like the most important event today so far is the shit-fight between rayn and n00b. Rayn looks pretty obviously town to me. This is exactly the same as his town meta in voice-mafia, he tries to lead the discussion right from the front, ask questions, point things out and generally just be loud. I do think that a couple of his pushes have been a little questionable - the whole Breshke "yamato/rayn magic" thing was blown waaaaay out of proportion, and I think people were right to point this out. But, yeah, that's what I would have expected from town rayn. I hate n00b's style of posting, because there's really no reason to be so rude. I get it, you think that you're better than us all. That's fine, you might well be. But you can't honestly be surprised to find people don't like arrogant, superior people. And you're doing both in spades. If you're town, you're just digging your own grave at the moment. The post I most disliked from n00bking was #801. I think it's worth me quoting it in full: Show nested quote +On September 06 2015 07:47 n00bKing wrote:On September 06 2015 07:24 NocturneMage wrote:
Reading n00bking right now. Not liking what I see so far. I know he ranted about skill level of the site in the newbie I played and the one before that so I am ignoring that. But 278, 311 and 329, those posts I really don't like. 329, he's pushing rayn on semantics, doesn't have to be a case, all that matters is that he's calling rayn's points bullshit. The importance of the distinction between calling rayn's points bullshit and making a case for why he should be lynched cannot be overstated. You're right, "all that matters" is that rayn's points were being called bullshit (and they were bullshit). rayn mislabeled it as being something else, so I corrected him. Just as I corrected him when he tried to pretend I had said at some point that he is Scum. I'm sitting here reading this post, and I just keep asking myself "why does a town n00b make this post?". The only reason to call people's posts bad, without following with a read on the poster, is if you're trying to stop momentum on a wagon you think is wrong. Otherwise, you're just soft-scumming the poster. I would say probably half of n00b's filter up to now is his fight with rayn. And through all of that, he hasn't actually formed a read on him yet? How does that even make sense? If n00b is town, I don't get why he essentially causes the entirety of d1 to be about his fight with rayn, someone he doesn't even seem to have a scum read on ??? n00b is a scum-read for now. That said, there are a ton of other interesting things about this fight that are worth pondering. Yamato's thread is one I think is worth parsing a little more. He again seems to have been swept up in the fight, and is taking lots of swings at n00b. I've spent a fair amount of time talking to Yamato on TS, and I would say off the bat that his posts sound like him. But at the same time, he's a strong player and his absolute focus on n00b this early seems a little off. I'm also not sure that his post #598 makes a ton of sense. Rayn's read on Yamato is flimsy, at best. Even rayn would surely have to admit that trying to discern someone's alignment from how excited they are in their first post is pretty difficult. For two people who only know each other over the internet, it would be basically impossible. So why is yamato so keen to emphasise that he and rayn are hard town-reading each other? I think I will read Moosy and GB's filters, then head to bed. Any questions, fire away in the meantime. He's contradicting himself there: Show nested quote +On September 07 2015 07:52 Fidei86 wrote:On September 07 2015 07:50 Superbia wrote:On September 07 2015 07:48 Fidei86 wrote:On September 07 2015 07:44 Superbia wrote:
Also Fidei86's switch to some random wagon was pretty scummy. What, because I didn't want to be on the n00b wagon? Meh. I'm not sure that GB's claim left town much choice, and I should have gone straight to n00b, but only because I liked him less than Cake, not because I thought he was Mafia. Nah, because you should be switching to save the doctor. At 10m before EoD you chose to believe the claim and switched. Which means you wanted to save the doctor. But you go on some wagon no one is on. Makes me feel like "hey guys at least I switched lol". IDK. All I can say is that I'd been town-reading Cake and NK all day, basically, and I really didn't want to vote for either. You're right, I had to, but I was stubborn at first. Not much more I can say about it really. Show nested quote +On September 07 2015 17:27 Fidei86 wrote:
@Breshke I've already explained this - I was town reading n00b and Cake all day, and I didn't want to vote for either. I moved to n00b because I needed to choose one of the wagons other than GB. I was just being stubborn in not moving to n00b straight away. *shrug* idk what my Mafia motivation would be to not move to n00b (town) straight away, but then I guess I would say that. Concluding, there are some major flaws in Fidei's gameplay. 1. He does not push his votes. 2. He votes for people that he townread "basically all day" 3. He heavily contradicts himself in terms of his scum/townreads which is quite strange since, well, in the end he voted his town read. So I strongly suggest to look into Fidei in the context of the first 40 pages or so (which I still didn't manage to read up completely ffs).
This is a really good post.
I think you should seriously consider lynching James on D2.
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