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On August 27 2015 01:49 WaveofShadow wrote:Show nested quote +On August 27 2015 01:44 VisceraEyes wrote:On August 27 2015 01:41 WaveofShadow wrote:On August 27 2015 01:40 VisceraEyes wrote:On August 27 2015 01:06 WaveofShadow wrote:On August 27 2015 01:04 Vivax wrote:On August 27 2015 00:55 WaveofShadow wrote:On August 27 2015 00:11 WaveofShadow wrote:
Catching up.
Frigging euro dominated game ##unvoteShould have just said marv/Palmar dominated game. Which is fine I suppose since they're both extremely likely to be town at this point. On what basis? On the basis that they took over the thread entirely. Unless they are BOTH scum and are playing beyond both of their usual abilities which to me frankly seems near impossible, it's extremely unlikely based on their interactions that one of them is scum and the other isn't. What about their interactions makes it unlikely that one is scum and the other isn't? Because from the looks of it to me it could be either both town or one/one...I agree that mafia/mafia makes no sense in any world. Because they can both read each other extremely well and due to the amount of back-and-forth they have already had, it's likely that one would have found something about the other strange already. It's EXACTLY the amount of back and forth that I find disconcerting. Like, they have back and forth every game but it's a LOT in this game and they IMMEDIATELY townread one another (at least it looks that way to me.) In my experience that's a result of one of them being mafia and trying hard to get the other to townread them, saying all the right things, etc. Both Palmar AND Marv are capable of fooling the other, it just takes effort that generally neither of them are willing to put in. Who's to say they aren't willing to put it in this game? I only mention it because it looks like you're building town/town marv/Palmar as the foundation of your thought process this game and I'm getting bad feels from Palmar. Marv didn't townread Palmar per se but he didn't scumread him either after all of that back and forth. I have a pretty hard time believing Palmar is scum after getting the business in exactly this way in an earlier game. Rsoul can vouch for me. It's more likely to me that Palmar is wrong than scum, I think.
nh yes palmar is sexy ^^ and i don't think this is scum palmar
disclaimer: i have a horrid record of reading palmar
disclaimer to the disclaimer: ^ when he's trolling, specifically. i've actually been fairly okay at it when he's not even when others are incorrectly scumreading him
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On August 27 2015 01:59 justanothertownie wrote:Show nested quote +On August 27 2015 01:56 rsoultin wrote:On August 27 2015 01:39 MoosyDoosy wrote:On August 27 2015 01:38 rsoultin wrote:
Message to a non-jatty jat:
When do you plan on showing up to this game?
-your not-so-friendly neighborhood raoul rsoul, do you think Palmar could have read marv based on "heya" and "this is delightful"? If you say yes, then that means Trfel's question was valid. If you say no, then that means Trfel's question was weird and we need to take action on it. i know that truffle's question did not raise red flags with me, which generally means that the context (and y'all are taking this out of context lovelies) makes the question make sense. when i review it i fully expect to find someone else scumreading marv (wave/ve?) and him saying well i want to wait and see what palmar thinks in that context which as i said since no red flags when i read it, i completely expect to find, there is not a damn thing weird about this supposed "question" and jat pinging him out on it is puke-worthy it's possible i misread. doubt it There is literally 0 reason for rfel to say that at this point. It is pure filler. You pinging me out for this is puke-worthy.
prove it ^^
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On August 27 2015 02:01 WaveofShadow wrote:Show nested quote +On August 27 2015 01:58 rsoultin wrote:On August 27 2015 01:40 WaveofShadow wrote:
Rsoul!!
Hi!!!
Hi!!!!!!!
Let's play so I can be not mad at you anymore.
Talk to me about stuff.
Thoughts on Cheesecake?
Moosy? dunnae about cc but i still like moosy <3 Eugh. I mean I guess the disconnect between older and newer players exists in this game. You probably are also more experienced with the 'good' wave than the bad one and know less about older players (hence the me being mad at you  ) so you're less likely to find moosy's early praises of me strange...? Or maybe I'm just biased.
nh
players are reduced to their own experiences, so no, i don't find it strange that new player would have a generally different view of the playerbase than players who have been playing longer
it's a toneread that isn't particularly strong but i feel like he's town ^^ in part for the same reason cc did, in part cause he had similar reactions to things as me that i didn't bother responding to, and in part just because of how he's responding to everything in a relatively natural way
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On August 26 2015 11:54 rsoultin wrote:Show nested quote +On August 26 2015 11:50 Trfel wrote:On August 26 2015 11:14 rsoultin wrote:On August 26 2015 11:11 WaveofShadow wrote:
You're certainly acting like one
I wanna lynch marv.
Can we lynch marv?
##vote: marvellosity no protestsgonna shower, do some work and maybe sleep first though  he already give up in the scum qt shadowwaaaaave? On August 26 2015 11:41 rsoultin wrote:i has a fun theory for you, shadowwave ^^ Exhibit A: marv makes two posts...one around 11pm-ish his time, and one around 1am-ish Exhibit B: two smart american players are already flinging suspicion in his general direction despite the rather reasonable assumption that maybe he has gone to bed now, if marv is town (and scum would know he is) he's not going to be a very happy camper when he wakes up to stupidity and turns on the marv!town charm complete with that lovely ability to get people lynched just because he's marv. so you two are probably town (but idiotic)if he flips scum, though...hello "buss me" message ^^ -drops mic- solved it, boys...oh, and wave? keep the emoticon push up (see bolded green text) What changed? nothing shower/do some work/maybe sleep first <- the nod to the timezone marv is in where i don't expect him to be that active right now reference to the scum qt <- finding it odd that wave is already pushing for a marv lynch and no, i don't protest. because i find it much more likely that a scum wave is bussing a scum marv than a scum wave is stupidly pushing a town marv, or a town wave isn't sharp enough to realize that a town marv shouldn't be expected to be active in the wee hours of the morning
On August 26 2015 12:01 rsoultin wrote:
truffle you aren't talking to me >>
On August 26 2015 13:21 Trfel wrote:Family comes first, sorry. I'll be more active in maybe another hour and a half, if you're still awake then. Otherwise, I'm interested to see what Palmar has to say about marvellosity.
^ reading comprehension test says he's not impressed with my reasoning and trusts palmar to be able to get an early read on marv over wave/ve/my lovely tinfoil re: wave/ve/marv
also, i think wave's town lol >< so my tinfoil isn't quite so tinfoily now is it? (watch wave be scum just cause i said that now)
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On August 27 2015 02:10 WaveofShadow wrote:Show nested quote +On August 27 2015 02:06 rsoultin wrote:On August 27 2015 02:01 WaveofShadow wrote:On August 27 2015 01:58 rsoultin wrote:On August 27 2015 01:40 WaveofShadow wrote:
Rsoul!!
Hi!!!
Hi!!!!!!!
Let's play so I can be not mad at you anymore.
Talk to me about stuff.
Thoughts on Cheesecake?
Moosy? dunnae about cc but i still like moosy <3 Eugh. I mean I guess the disconnect between older and newer players exists in this game. You probably are also more experienced with the 'good' wave than the bad one and know less about older players (hence the me being mad at you ) so you're less likely to find moosy's early praises of me strange...? Or maybe I'm just biased. nh players are reduced to their own experiences, so no, i don't find it strange that new player would have a generally different view of the playerbase than players who have been playing longer it's a toneread that isn't particularly strong but i feel like he's town ^^ in part for the same reason cc did, in part cause he had similar reactions to things as me that i didn't bother responding to, and in part just because of how he's responding to everything in a relatively natural way This is fair, though I posit that the 'natural way' that he has responded to things is fairly superficial and extremely easy to fake, especially as a newer scum player. Like anything and everything that he has said about me could come from either alignment and I lean towards the scummier side because town Moosy has no need to say those kinds of things or lean so hard. I am also inclined however to give Moosy more time since in my experience with him he had the potential for an explosive towngame before we killed him. He just ramped up to it very slowly.
hm :/ i can see your point, though i don't quite agree? i agree it's easy-ish to do but i don't agree that most people actually successfully pull it off lol >< well i don't want to lynch him today anyway. i'll revisit if jat decides to play and i decide he's not the best lynch today
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On August 27 2015 02:10 justanothertownie wrote:Show nested quote +On August 27 2015 02:09 Palmar wrote:On August 27 2015 02:05 justanothertownie wrote:On August 27 2015 02:03 Palmar wrote:
jat say "trfel is confirmed town" and maybe I'll back off. No, you won't and I am sick of your trolling. Go do something useful. So far you only tunneled on a townie and acted like a total asshole about it. Hi mafia. I am not trolling. I am not being an asshole. I have also done fuckton else. I have an entire array of people I'm townreading! Yes, you are. There is no way you can seriously consider Trfel confirmed town. There is no way you would back off me for calling Trfel confirmed town. The only intention you have is making me mad.
what you are doing is throwing a tantrum. i am even willing to remove my vote if that will allow you to be less tantrum-y, but throwing a tantrum and saying people are bad does not make you town
your trfel push is shit
do something that isn't. that's what i'm looking for. i've yet to see it
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On August 27 2015 02:18 justanothertownie wrote:
Well, I am leaving now. It is wednesday and wednesday night is pubquiz time. Maybe I will return for a short while later, maybe I won't. Can make any promises about tomorrows activity since it is my birthday.
When I return I will flat out ignore any further bullshit brought up against me unless I think it is alignment indicative.
Currently I would look for scum between WoS, Trfel, Moosy and possibly CC between the people that have posted a little.
reasons
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On August 27 2015 02:19 justanothertownie wrote:Show nested quote +On August 27 2015 02:15 rsoultin wrote:On August 27 2015 02:10 justanothertownie wrote:On August 27 2015 02:09 Palmar wrote:On August 27 2015 02:05 justanothertownie wrote:On August 27 2015 02:03 Palmar wrote:
jat say "trfel is confirmed town" and maybe I'll back off. No, you won't and I am sick of your trolling. Go do something useful. So far you only tunneled on a townie and acted like a total asshole about it. Hi mafia. I am not trolling. I am not being an asshole. I have also done fuckton else. I have an entire array of people I'm townreading! Yes, you are. There is no way you can seriously consider Trfel confirmed town. There is no way you would back off me for calling Trfel confirmed town. The only intention you have is making me mad. what you are doing is throwing a tantrum. i am even willing to remove my vote if that will allow you to be less tantrum-y, but throwing a tantrum and saying people are bad does not make you town your trfel push is shit do something that isn't. that's what i'm looking for. i've yet to see it Your push on me is shit. My Trfel point is still one of the best ones that have been brought up this game. But we already established that you are having a bad game if you are town and ftr I still kinda think you are.
it's shit. i debunked it. move on
reasons
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On August 27 2015 02:22 justanothertownie wrote:Show nested quote +On August 27 2015 02:19 rsoultin wrote:On August 27 2015 02:19 justanothertownie wrote:On August 27 2015 02:15 rsoultin wrote:On August 27 2015 02:10 justanothertownie wrote:On August 27 2015 02:09 Palmar wrote:On August 27 2015 02:05 justanothertownie wrote:On August 27 2015 02:03 Palmar wrote:
jat say "trfel is confirmed town" and maybe I'll back off. No, you won't and I am sick of your trolling. Go do something useful. So far you only tunneled on a townie and acted like a total asshole about it. Hi mafia. I am not trolling. I am not being an asshole. I have also done fuckton else. I have an entire array of people I'm townreading! Yes, you are. There is no way you can seriously consider Trfel confirmed town. There is no way you would back off me for calling Trfel confirmed town. The only intention you have is making me mad. what you are doing is throwing a tantrum. i am even willing to remove my vote if that will allow you to be less tantrum-y, but throwing a tantrum and saying people are bad does not make you town your trfel push is shit do something that isn't. that's what i'm looking for. i've yet to see it Your push on me is shit. My Trfel point is still one of the best ones that have been brought up this game. But we already established that you are having a bad game if you are town and ftr I still kinda think you are. it's shit. i debunked it. move on reasons You haven't debunked anything and no, I won't give you any reasons. You will have to find something to talk about that's not me. Suck it. I am off.
you fail to understand why i'm scumreading you and you also fail to note that i've been talking about plenty of things not you ^^ this looks more like a dodge to me than anything else
enjoy your bday
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On August 27 2015 02:23 justanothertownie wrote:Show nested quote +On August 27 2015 02:22 Palmar wrote:On August 27 2015 02:18 justanothertownie wrote:
Well, I am leaving now. It is wednesday and wednesday night is pubquiz time. Maybe I will return for a short while later, maybe I won't. Can make any promises about tomorrows activity since it is my birthday.
When I return I will flat out ignore any further bullshit brought up against me unless I think it is alignment indicative.
Currently I would look for scum between WoS, Trfel, Moosy and possibly CC between the people that have posted a little. Explain exactly why you think CC is mafia. He is a little too correct I think. Very very clean posts.
first semi-townie post i've seen from you lol ><
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On August 27 2015 02:25 KelsierSC wrote:Show nested quote +On August 27 2015 02:24 rsoultin wrote:On August 27 2015 02:22 justanothertownie wrote:On August 27 2015 02:19 rsoultin wrote:On August 27 2015 02:19 justanothertownie wrote:On August 27 2015 02:15 rsoultin wrote:On August 27 2015 02:10 justanothertownie wrote:On August 27 2015 02:09 Palmar wrote:On August 27 2015 02:05 justanothertownie wrote:On August 27 2015 02:03 Palmar wrote:
jat say "trfel is confirmed town" and maybe I'll back off. No, you won't and I am sick of your trolling. Go do something useful. So far you only tunneled on a townie and acted like a total asshole about it. Hi mafia. I am not trolling. I am not being an asshole. I have also done fuckton else. I have an entire array of people I'm townreading! Yes, you are. There is no way you can seriously consider Trfel confirmed town. There is no way you would back off me for calling Trfel confirmed town. The only intention you have is making me mad. what you are doing is throwing a tantrum. i am even willing to remove my vote if that will allow you to be less tantrum-y, but throwing a tantrum and saying people are bad does not make you town your trfel push is shit do something that isn't. that's what i'm looking for. i've yet to see it Your push on me is shit. My Trfel point is still one of the best ones that have been brought up this game. But we already established that you are having a bad game if you are town and ftr I still kinda think you are. it's shit. i debunked it. move on reasons You haven't debunked anything and no, I won't give you any reasons. You will have to find something to talk about that's not me. Suck it. I am off. you fail to understand why i'm scumreading you and you also fail to note that i've been talking about plenty of things not you ^^ this looks more like a dodge to me than anything else enjoy your bday can i get like a summary of what else you said. not that I don't love reading all your posts but...it's easier if it just one place
lol really >< on what? on everything? even things i've changed my mind about?
caveat: jat, are you saying his posts are too clean as in constructed?
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lol ksc >< i'm fine with answering i just am not sure what you want? i'm trying to correct that "read you idiot" problem i have >>
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On August 27 2015 02:32 KelsierSC wrote:Show nested quote +On August 27 2015 02:31 rsoultin wrote:
lol ksc >< i'm fine with answering i just am not sure what you want? i'm trying to correct that "read you idiot" problem i have >> well it's just my abiding memory of your posting was about JAT and well..it's easy for points you make to get mixed in with the other words you type. i found your list of reads so its ok. you and wave still bros?
i've got town feels on him but i'd have to glance back at what i scanned during lunch to remember why lol >< i think it's how he responded to the pressure + just sheepled without being all super!town about it
wave seems insanely conscious how he looks when he's scum...even in gaiden he had a strangely good thumb on the pulse of thread sentiment while being basically afk...people outside the scum team may think it was just lazy but the calculation there was impressive to me
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On August 27 2015 02:36 KelsierSC wrote:Show nested quote +On August 27 2015 02:35 rsoultin wrote:On August 27 2015 02:32 KelsierSC wrote:On August 27 2015 02:31 rsoultin wrote:
lol ksc >< i'm fine with answering i just am not sure what you want? i'm trying to correct that "read you idiot" problem i have >> well it's just my abiding memory of your posting was about JAT and well..it's easy for points you make to get mixed in with the other words you type. i found your list of reads so its ok. you and wave still bros? i've got town feels on him but i'd have to glance back at what i scanned during lunch to remember why lol >< i think it's how he responded to the pressure + just sheepled without being all super!town about it wave seems insanely conscious how he looks when he's scum...even in gaiden he had a strangely good thumb on the pulse of thread sentiment while being basically afk...people outside the scum team may think it was just lazy but the calculation there was impressive to me dude he literally said im not going to post and see how long i can get away with it =)
dude you got modkilled too early to know what i'm talking about lol ><
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like, if you're curious and care to reopen our scum qt
two moments stood out to me...one where he went shit shit i fucked up because he came back and his posts didn't make sense from town (he was questioning the scumreads on one of the largely scumread townies, i think the cop we auto-lynched)
and hard-bussing me to keep town happy and content. no he didn't do much but he clearly knew what he was doing
there's nothing calculated about sheeping the jat vote on no reasoning of his own lol >< and i don't see him doing that as scum
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ye i'm just using it to the extent that it speaks to his personality and other tidbits i've noticed or been told ^^ typical rsoul shit no one else gets it's cool
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On August 27 2015 02:40 KelsierSC wrote:Show nested quote +On August 27 2015 02:39 rsoultin wrote:
like, if you're curious and care to reopen our scum qt
two moments stood out to me...one where he went shit shit i fucked up because he came back and his posts didn't make sense from town (he was questioning the scumreads on one of the largely scumread townies, i think the cop we auto-lynched)
and hard-bussing me to keep town happy and content. no he didn't do much but he clearly knew what he was doing
there's nothing calculated about sheeping the jat vote on no reasoning of his own lol >< and i don't see him doing that as scum he did add additional reasoning though ..maybe im drunk
true
:/ don't ask me to qualify my feels! it's like asking me to i dunnae...describe music or something
i wouldn't even talk about it if you didn't ask cause lol it's not really that important presently
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meh so like
the semi-townie thing on jat i dunnae actually was townie tbh
he's kind of a bully when he's caught as scum, in that he just flails around, and i'm not seeing anything particularly brilliant to make me think he's actually town here. did anyone else see something that would counter that impression?
ftr, what i expect from a jat is essentially
agreement sometimes with no elaboration, sometimes with an extra point that introduces a new perspective
or
disagreement and why that's fairly well-reasoned
instead i see a lot of flailing and a refusal to admit that his push on truffle isn't good or an attempt to revisit that section and see if he was wrong/prove that i'm wrong about the context of truffle's comment
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On August 27 2015 02:46 KelsierSC wrote:Show nested quote +On August 27 2015 02:42 rsoultin wrote:On August 27 2015 02:40 KelsierSC wrote:On August 27 2015 02:39 rsoultin wrote:
like, if you're curious and care to reopen our scum qt
two moments stood out to me...one where he went shit shit i fucked up because he came back and his posts didn't make sense from town (he was questioning the scumreads on one of the largely scumread townies, i think the cop we auto-lynched)
and hard-bussing me to keep town happy and content. no he didn't do much but he clearly knew what he was doing
there's nothing calculated about sheeping the jat vote on no reasoning of his own lol >< and i don't see him doing that as scum he did add additional reasoning though ..maybe im drunk true :/ don't ask me to qualify my feels! it's like asking me to i dunnae...describe music or something i wouldn't even talk about it if you didn't ask cause lol it's not really that important presently i don't know how i feel about wave/jat
ye i wouldn't use feels if they didn't work better than logics for me -_- they're irritating and especially hard to explain
who does the ksc want to lynch right now?
also, do you have a read on vivax? he's not coming off to me as nearly as townie as he was in storm and i'm not sure if that's because i was scum there and already knew he was town or what
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On August 27 2015 02:52 KelsierSC wrote:Show nested quote +On August 27 2015 02:50 rsoultin wrote:
meh so like
the semi-townie thing on jat i dunnae actually was townie tbh
he's kind of a bully when he's caught as scum, in that he just flails around, and i'm not seeing anything particularly brilliant to make me think he's actually town here. did anyone else see something that would counter that impression?
ftr, what i expect from a jat is essentially
agreement sometimes with no elaboration, sometimes with an extra point that introduces a new perspective
or
disagreement and why that's fairly well-reasoned
instead i see a lot of flailing and a refusal to admit that his push on truffle isn't good or an attempt to revisit that section and see if he was wrong/prove that i'm wrong about the context of truffle's comment basically for JAT, i saw the point he made about trefl, it wasn't a great point and i offered an explanation for it, but i don't think his rebuttal was too bad, then you gave another explanation for it and palmar went off on him. point is we have multiple explanations and trefl hasn't even come back to give the actual explanation so it's hard to make a read off it. I was expecting JAT to come back and give reads on the game but it's been as you said, more of a tantrum than anything else. the only interesting area was about wave I think and I think his reentry to the game has been a bit awkward then moosy who I scumread decides to vote JAT despite being null on him, but i'm not sure if he is just incompetent town rather than scum.
ye i just don't see that point in context at all. out-of-context, sure. and to tout it as the "best point in the thread" this late in the game is at best deluded, imo
ye, i'll admit, i was curious about who he was scumreading for jumping on his wagon but in the end i don't know how alignment indicative it is and i'm really curious about his CC read cause it's either really awful or actually somewhat townie lol >< but he hasn't clarified what he meant so i can't say one way or the other
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