On August 29 2015 07:30 justanothertownie wrote:
Btw. Palmar, if you are mason with trfel or some shit you out that today. Because if you do not have additional reasoning for him being town then I might retract my sheep and sheep rsoultin instead.

What about the part where rsoultin's scumread on me is stupid and nonsensical?

Trfel

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August 28 2015 22:37 GMT

#2381

On August 29 2015 07:35 justanothertownie wrote:

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Her tonereads do always look nonsensical but that doesn't change the fact that she has a near perfect track record on you. Not that I didn't bring up points against you myself already.

Your points were generally bad and I already showed why.

Her read on me was largely due to POE and largely due to the perception that I was ignoring her, which is simply false.

Trfel

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August 28 2015 22:37 GMT

#2383

On August 29 2015 07:36 MoosyDoosy wrote:
and lack of sexy cases

Why does this make you think that I am mafia?

Trfel

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August 28 2015 22:40 GMT

#2386

On August 29 2015 07:38 justanothertownie wrote:

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Look, I don't care how she got the read. Fact is when you are town she defends you until the end of time.

There actually was a time where she was wrong and I was her strongest scumread. We were both town.

And MoosyDoosy, I can make a really amazing case on deconduo if you want. The only problem is that marvellosity kind of ruined it.

Trfel

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August 28 2015 22:43 GMT

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On August 29 2015 07:42 justanothertownie wrote:
I also find it interesting that you are defending yourself this adamantly now when earlier you just didn't felt the need to do anything while clearly being around.

If by earlier you mean before End of Night, I was too busy laughing.

Trfel

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August 29 2015 01:24 GMT

#2401

On August 29 2015 08:03 MoosyDoosy wrote:
so...trfel. have anything on anyone else than decon?

I've given a bunch of townreads and explained why. Unfortunately, people didn't seem very interested in pointing out why my townreads are weak, or specifically which ones they disagreed with.

I had been thinking that the deconduo read was the weakest one (will say why after he returns), but the cop check more than makes up for it.

I suppose my read on Vivax is a little weak, and maybe justanothertownie is this good as mafia. But I don't really think so?

I'll come up with something cool tonight, I hope. Probably won't be on that much to discuss tomorrow, will be on a lot in the evening though (when no one else is, apparently).

Trfel

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August 29 2015 01:25 GMT

#2402

On August 29 2015 10:24 Trfel wrote:

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Oh, and your post reminded me about Hopeless1der. I'm trying not to think about him until he posts again.

Trfel

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August 29 2015 17:24 GMT

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On August 30 2015 01:51 Vivax wrote:

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If you are masons you should claim at least tomorrow cause while today we can decide between hopeless and CC mostly, tomorrow it'd be nice to be able to take you from the lynch pool, cause both of you aren't in the clear in this game. Not for me at least.

Please tell me why you do not consider me confirmed town.

Trfel

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August 29 2015 17:59 GMT

#2451

I don't want to lynch Hopeless1der.

Trfel

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August 29 2015 19:41 GMT

#2471

How about, I think that Hopeless1der is very likely to be town and would be very sad if he were lynched today.

Trfel

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August 29 2015 19:42 GMT

#2472

On August 30 2015 04:21 VisceraEyes wrote:
I promised I'd make an effort to reevaluate Palmar and Trfel, so I'm going to add them to the no-lynch list today as well as I accommodate that.

Trfel

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August 30 2015 00:18 GMT

#2484

Basically everyone but me is townreading VisceraEyes.

I keep forgetting why this is. Can someone please remind me?

Trfel

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August 30 2015 00:32 GMT

#2486

Mr. Cheesecake, how late are you staying up tonight?

Trfel

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August 30 2015 00:42 GMT

#2490

On August 30 2015 09:39 Mr. Cheesecake wrote:
How anyone can honestly think I'm mafia is beyond me.

I sort of think you're town here.

And by that I mean I do think you're town, but I haven't read your filter.

I think I agree on Vivax being scummy.

If anyone is staying up late tonight, I'd really appreciate having someone to work with, it gets quite lonely...

Trfel

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August 30 2015 00:51 GMT

#2494

I'm looking through Vivax's filter, and I'm noticing some small things. It makes me suspicious of him, but they are by no means condemning. It's difficult because Vivax generally doesn't do very much as mafia, so it's hard for me to tell here.

Perhaps the thing I found most interesting was the way his read on boxerfred changed. Boxerfred made all of his posts, and Vivax claimed that boxerfred and Hopeless1der were coinflip lynches and he'd rather lynch me (Trfel) instead. Then, he said that there was no reason to lynch boxerfred because he was getting modkilled, and if he voted he'd be an easy catch the next day. Then when boxerfred voted in the voting thread, Vivax decided that he was certain scum and didn't want to lynch me any more.

This doesn't make sense to me. Boxerfred had already declared his intention of not playing and making a pointless vote, but Vivax didn't see any way of reading into his alignment. I don't understand how Vivax went from this to wanting to lynch only boxerfred.

However, I do think that Vivax's point on you (Mr. Cheesecake) makes sense, at least the second part, anyway. I haven't really read your filter yet, but without doing so, it's somewhat compelling.

Trfel

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August 30 2015 00:57 GMT

#2496

On August 30 2015 09:54 justanothertownie wrote:
Trfel, why should any sane being consider you confirmed town?

Because this isn't my scum play, and in a way that would be extremely difficult for me to fake as town. Because while I have done some things that seem "strange", they have no mafia motivation (further suggesting that I am town). Because of how terrible my last scum game was.

Trfel

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August 30 2015 01:03 GMT

#2500

The problem is that much of Vivax's filter feels like he's genuinely trying to solve the game.

Trfel

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August 30 2015 01:06 GMT

#2502

Justanothertownie, assuming you are town:

1. You are actually good at this game.
2. I am not. You know that I am not, because you constantly berate me in Obs QTs and post-game. Remember how I threw Gaiden 1, and you kept picking on me in the Obs QT for it?
3. Instead of talking about pointless things like my own alignment, why not actually tell me what you think about Vivax, and why? Since you're actually good at this game, and I'm not. If you think I'm town, you should help me. If you think I'm mafia, you should do things that actually show this, like why my actual reads/pushes of importance are wrong and mafia motivated.

Trfel

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August 30 2015 01:08 GMT

#2503

Sorry, it just annoys me when people criticize random things that I say and then completely ignore me when I'm trying to actually do something.

Off for a while.