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WaveofShadow
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Canada31494 Posts
August 26 2015 22:31 GMT
#847
On August 27 2015 07:29 marvellosity wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 27 2015 02:56 rsoultin wrote:
i dunnae people seem to be scumreading moosy for things that i'd expect new players to get scumread for as town :/ i'm really not sold on that

yeah this seems right

He played way better than I would have expected for a typical new townie last time I played with him and I am treating him accordingly.
twitch.tv/waveofshadow ||| Winner of AHGL's So You Think You Can Cast! ||| Juicy Dad for lyfe ||| 'idk i get a kick out of stupid things' - Jarms Yarng
WaveofShadow
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Canada31494 Posts
August 26 2015 22:33 GMT
#853
I wouldn't be surprised if scum were attempting to gauge thread sentiment and seeing it begin to turn against me to some degree... I think KSC looks worse for this than CC personally though I also think (bad association inc) it makes it extremely unlikely for them both to be.
twitch.tv/waveofshadow ||| Winner of AHGL's So You Think You Can Cast! ||| Juicy Dad for lyfe ||| 'idk i get a kick out of stupid things' - Jarms Yarng
WaveofShadow
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Canada31494 Posts
August 26 2015 22:35 GMT
#856
On August 27 2015 07:33 WaveofShadow wrote:
I wouldn't be surprised if scum were attempting to gauge thread sentiment and seeing it begin to turn against me to some degree... I think KSC looks worse for this than CC personally though I also think (bad association inc) it makes it extremely unlikely for them both to be.

Eh actually maybe not.
Bleh I think KSC may just be omgus
Want him to do more
twitch.tv/waveofshadow ||| Winner of AHGL's So You Think You Can Cast! ||| Juicy Dad for lyfe ||| 'idk i get a kick out of stupid things' - Jarms Yarng
WaveofShadow
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Canada31494 Posts
August 26 2015 22:36 GMT
#859
On August 27 2015 07:34 marvellosity wrote:
I think KSC looks good.

I misread him majorly last game because he managed to make his mafiagame look much more like his towngame than I'd seen previously. he kinda went afk in the end, so we'll see, but...

he just seems so much more involved and natural this game. it looks a lot better to me than last game

I agree with this actually which is I think why I'm getting the jeebies. I know I would specifically act this way as scum after a game like you said to change it up, but that's me.
twitch.tv/waveofshadow ||| Winner of AHGL's So You Think You Can Cast! ||| Juicy Dad for lyfe ||| 'idk i get a kick out of stupid things' - Jarms Yarng
WaveofShadow
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Canada31494 Posts
August 26 2015 22:38 GMT
#865
On August 27 2015 07:36 marvellosity wrote:
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On August 27 2015 07:35 marvellosity wrote:
i think you look quite good too, wave, i like how your posts read

^ they remind me of when I replaced into YOSO really late, and I became really convinced you were town and defended you accordingly because when I filtered you, all your posts just read really well.

so i really hope you're not making a fool of me this game. or if you are, i manage to catch on

Unfortunately I can't really help you there. I don't think you've ever beaten me when you were town and I was scum :D
twitch.tv/waveofshadow ||| Winner of AHGL's So You Think You Can Cast! ||| Juicy Dad for lyfe ||| 'idk i get a kick out of stupid things' - Jarms Yarng
WaveofShadow
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Canada31494 Posts
August 26 2015 22:39 GMT
#869
On August 27 2015 07:38 justanothertownie wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 27 2015 07:36 marvellosity wrote:
On August 27 2015 07:35 marvellosity wrote:
i think you look quite good too, wave, i like how your posts read

^ they remind me of when I replaced into YOSO really late, and I became really convinced you were town and defended you accordingly because when I filtered you, all your posts just read really well.

so i really hope you're not making a fool of me this game. or if you are, i manage to catch on

That game was awesome. I mean if scum hadn't thrown the game we wouldn't have won it but we still did.

I need to update my profile later I think. And go back and read some games. I don't remember that one at all.
twitch.tv/waveofshadow ||| Winner of AHGL's So You Think You Can Cast! ||| Juicy Dad for lyfe ||| 'idk i get a kick out of stupid things' - Jarms Yarng
WaveofShadow
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Canada31494 Posts
August 26 2015 22:40 GMT
#873
On August 27 2015 07:39 marvellosity wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 27 2015 07:38 WaveofShadow wrote:
On August 27 2015 07:36 marvellosity wrote:
On August 27 2015 07:35 marvellosity wrote:
i think you look quite good too, wave, i like how your posts read

^ they remind me of when I replaced into YOSO really late, and I became really convinced you were town and defended you accordingly because when I filtered you, all your posts just read really well.

so i really hope you're not making a fool of me this game. or if you are, i manage to catch on

Unfortunately I can't really help you there. I don't think you've ever beaten me when you were town and I was scum :D

no. although at least my last read on you in that mafiagame you afked was that i thought you were mafia in the end for not giving a shit :p then i died

Oh yeah don't get me wrong you've suspected me/called me scum correctly before but it's never been enough either cause we kill you or waffle.
twitch.tv/waveofshadow ||| Winner of AHGL's So You Think You Can Cast! ||| Juicy Dad for lyfe ||| 'idk i get a kick out of stupid things' - Jarms Yarng
WaveofShadow
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Canada31494 Posts
August 26 2015 22:42 GMT
#878
Speaking of duo, anyone have anything on him?
twitch.tv/waveofshadow ||| Winner of AHGL's So You Think You Can Cast! ||| Juicy Dad for lyfe ||| 'idk i get a kick out of stupid things' - Jarms Yarng
WaveofShadow
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Canada31494 Posts
August 26 2015 22:46 GMT
#888
On August 27 2015 07:43 KelsierSC wrote:
wave what did you get from moosy, you said you wanted thoughts from him.

I'll give proper thoughts later but as I recall he hasn't done that much since I asked, has he?
twitch.tv/waveofshadow ||| Winner of AHGL's So You Think You Can Cast! ||| Juicy Dad for lyfe ||| 'idk i get a kick out of stupid things' - Jarms Yarng
WaveofShadow
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Canada31494 Posts
August 26 2015 22:51 GMT
#896
On August 27 2015 07:47 marvellosity wrote:
just read CC's case, however my internal bias where i'm reading wave town and mr cc mafia already make me think it's overly constructed and not picking on something that makes wave mafia

So you think it's more likely malicious than just dumb?
I think if he harped more on the 'lazy' or 'looking to excuse future town flip' parts of the case it would be worse cause those are terrible, but I think he truly believes the imaginary nits he's picking.
twitch.tv/waveofshadow ||| Winner of AHGL's So You Think You Can Cast! ||| Juicy Dad for lyfe ||| 'idk i get a kick out of stupid things' - Jarms Yarng
WaveofShadow
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Canada31494 Posts
August 26 2015 22:51 GMT
#897
On August 27 2015 07:48 KelsierSC wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 27 2015 07:46 WaveofShadow wrote:
On August 27 2015 07:43 KelsierSC wrote:
wave what did you get from moosy, you said you wanted thoughts from him.

I'll give proper thoughts later but as I recall he hasn't done that much since I asked, has he?


i mean..yes he has

Well again like I said, later when I can filter dive.
I don't remember my opinion changing.
twitch.tv/waveofshadow ||| Winner of AHGL's So You Think You Can Cast! ||| Juicy Dad for lyfe ||| 'idk i get a kick out of stupid things' - Jarms Yarng
WaveofShadow
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Canada31494 Posts
August 26 2015 22:56 GMT
#900
Yes vivax playing would be nice.
twitch.tv/waveofshadow ||| Winner of AHGL's So You Think You Can Cast! ||| Juicy Dad for lyfe ||| 'idk i get a kick out of stupid things' - Jarms Yarng
WaveofShadow
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Canada31494 Posts
August 26 2015 23:27 GMT
#921
On August 27 2015 08:25 Trfel wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 27 2015 08:19 justanothertownie wrote:
On August 27 2015 08:16 Trfel wrote:
On August 27 2015 08:10 justanothertownie wrote:
On August 27 2015 08:07 Trfel wrote:
Not sure if I want to lynch justanothertownie, but currently leaning towards no?

Don't really have time to filter dive right now.

I want to lynch Hopeless1der.

##vote Hopeless1der

Leaning towards town on MoosyDoosy and VisceraEyes.

Explanation please.

Why Hopeless?

Why did you feel the need to include townreads on MD and VE?
Because I think that Hopeless1der has a fair chance of being mafia, and it's not something I need to read a lot of filters or think super critically about. Look at his filter and his last game and you'll see why.

I also think that now is a good time to push this. I see no reason to wait.

MoosyDoosy and VisceraEyes were my tone reads that don't require filter dives and I'm not too worried about (I have a town tone read on WaveofShadow, but I'm more worried about him than the other two). Plus, there's been some discussion about MoosyDoosy and VisceraEyes recently.

Hopeless didn't even post yet. How could you possibly have any kind of read on him?
Okay, I'll explain it in more detail.

Hopeless1der generally doesn't play the game as scum. He doesn't play all that much as town, but even less as scum.

This game, he said he'd actually play, and then he confirmed. And then he vanished.

After rolling scum last game and not doing much, if he rolled scum again this game, I would expect even less.

I wouldn't put it past him to get modkilled/replaced as town.
twitch.tv/waveofshadow ||| Winner of AHGL's So You Think You Can Cast! ||| Juicy Dad for lyfe ||| 'idk i get a kick out of stupid things' - Jarms Yarng
WaveofShadow
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Canada31494 Posts
August 27 2015 03:46 GMT
#964
On August 27 2015 11:12 MoosyDoosy wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 27 2015 11:09 Mr. Cheesecake wrote:
Decondou and boxer are more scummy than Hopeless, if you want to talk about people that have a few posts. The info about hopeless is literally all OGI and irrelevant to this game imo

I town tone read deconduo and boxer has done nothing. I don't really care to lynch either of them.

Also, I am not most likely town this game. I've been playing very sub-optimally and have been deviating very far from my D1 meta which was a mistake on my part. -shrugs- But I'll make do for now until N1.

Damn.
Scumread evaporated.
twitch.tv/waveofshadow ||| Winner of AHGL's So You Think You Can Cast! ||| Juicy Dad for lyfe ||| 'idk i get a kick out of stupid things' - Jarms Yarng
WaveofShadow
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Canada31494 Posts
August 27 2015 14:06 GMT
#1143
On August 27 2015 18:46 Vivax wrote:
Can you do something productive and tell me when Wave's read on CC changed from town to mafia?

When did I scum read cc at all?
twitch.tv/waveofshadow ||| Winner of AHGL's So You Think You Can Cast! ||| Juicy Dad for lyfe ||| 'idk i get a kick out of stupid things' - Jarms Yarng
WaveofShadow
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Canada31494 Posts
August 27 2015 14:08 GMT
#1144
On August 27 2015 19:02 marvellosity wrote:
I think you're also giving Trfel too much credit and not enough credit at the same time.

I think a player capable of picking apart what VE wrote should be townreading a player he's intimately familiar with. I don't see why he's unable to do that as mafia...

This is particularly important because he can and does do this as mafia. I should know, I played with him. Still catching up.
twitch.tv/waveofshadow ||| Winner of AHGL's So You Think You Can Cast! ||| Juicy Dad for lyfe ||| 'idk i get a kick out of stupid things' - Jarms Yarng
WaveofShadow
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Canada31494 Posts
August 27 2015 14:21 GMT
#1150
I mean now I just wanna lynch JAT cause PJsalt.
Wouldn't lynch moosy anymore, will check up on CC meta at some point but wouldn't lynch either today anyway.

I guess Trfel is the other choice atm? VE's recent find is good but for whatever reason I'm not super convinced. Can't explain why.

Also vivax asking after me in that weird way is really indicative of something in his play but now I forget what it is. I remember seeing it a game we played semi-recently and it helped me read him but bleh
twitch.tv/waveofshadow ||| Winner of AHGL's So You Think You Can Cast! ||| Juicy Dad for lyfe ||| 'idk i get a kick out of stupid things' - Jarms Yarng
WaveofShadow
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Canada31494 Posts
August 27 2015 14:22 GMT
#1153
Oh yeah also paranoia on KSC cause he's not playing like a turd, stuff I mentioned earlier. That's gonna be hard to shake.
twitch.tv/waveofshadow ||| Winner of AHGL's So You Think You Can Cast! ||| Juicy Dad for lyfe ||| 'idk i get a kick out of stupid things' - Jarms Yarng
WaveofShadow
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Canada31494 Posts
August 27 2015 14:26 GMT
#1160
On August 27 2015 23:22 VisceraEyes wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 27 2015 23:21 WaveofShadow wrote:
I mean now I just wanna lynch JAT cause PJsalt.
Wouldn't lynch moosy anymore, will check up on CC meta at some point but wouldn't lynch either today anyway.

I guess Trfel is the other choice atm? VE's recent find is good but for whatever reason I'm not super convinced. Can't explain why.

Also vivax asking after me in that weird way is really indicative of something in his play but now I forget what it is. I remember seeing it a game we played semi-recently and it helped me read him but bleh

I mindmeld with you early game, you null read me. I find ACTUAL THREAD RELEVANT EVIDENCE that someone you've been calling mafia is ACTUALLY mafia. You're not convinced.

When did you lose all respect for me entirely Wave?

I mean that's a very real question and I can answer it for you...
I remember you being a huge town powerhouse in our early games together but within the past couple years you fell off super hard. Shadow game was a good example. I still love you don't get me wrong but it's not quite the same.

As for your thing on Trfel, I dunno what to say about that. I'm not 100% feeling it right now I suppose e en though your shit is decently airtight. I guess it's that feeling that even airtight cases against people can be wrong? Like I dunno what else to say. Sorry to disappoint you?
twitch.tv/waveofshadow ||| Winner of AHGL's So You Think You Can Cast! ||| Juicy Dad for lyfe ||| 'idk i get a kick out of stupid things' - Jarms Yarng
WaveofShadow
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Canada31494 Posts
August 27 2015 14:27 GMT
#1164
I will say this much VE you are a town read now, if that helps :D
twitch.tv/waveofshadow ||| Winner of AHGL's So You Think You Can Cast! ||| Juicy Dad for lyfe ||| 'idk i get a kick out of stupid things' - Jarms Yarng
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