I'm still somewhat suspicious of VisceraEyes?

The fact that he completely dropped his read on WaveofShadow and now seems to be treating him as town, without saying anything, confuses me. Or am I missing something here?

He also didn't even address the points I brought up about him.

I like that he pushed his reads on Mr. Cheesecake and myself, but I don't think this makes him town.

Trfel

7015 Posts

August 27 2015 18:23 GMT

#1465

On August 28 2015 03:15 KelsierSC wrote:

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hmm well VE gave reasons for dropping wave as mafia, so you are missing somethign yes

Please point it out to me, because I'm just not seeing it.

I don't care about VisceraEyes' points on me? I had a toneread on him, then I read his filter and found the things that I mentioned.

Trfel

7015 Posts

August 27 2015 18:28 GMT

#1473

On August 28 2015 03:24 KelsierSC wrote:

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this one

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then he made a post about CC aswell.

Your explanation is cool though

This is exactly my point. His read didn't change because of what WaveofShadow did, it mostly changed because of (terrible) unflipped associations with other people. Even when he takes back his read on MoosyDoosy, he doesn't mention WaveofShadow.

Trfel

7015 Posts

August 27 2015 18:29 GMT

#1474

On August 28 2015 03:26 Mr. Cheesecake wrote:
Shenanigans lynch Vivax boys

##Vote: Vivax

Hm, okay.

##vote Vivax

Trfel

7015 Posts

August 27 2015 18:32 GMT

#1478

On August 28 2015 03:30 KelsierSC wrote:

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On August 28 2015 03:28 Trfel wrote:

On August 28 2015 03:24 KelsierSC wrote:

On August 28 2015 03:23 Trfel wrote:

On August 28 2015 03:15 KelsierSC wrote:

On August 28 2015 03:07 Trfel wrote:
I'm still somewhat suspicious of VisceraEyes?

The fact that he completely dropped his read on WaveofShadow and now seems to be treating him as town, without saying anything, confuses me. Or am I missing something here?

He also didn't even address the points I brought up about him.

I like that he pushed his reads on Mr. Cheesecake and myself, but I don't think this makes him town.

hmm well VE gave reasons for dropping wave as mafia, so you are missing somethign yes

Please point it out to me, because I'm just not seeing it.

I don't care about VisceraEyes' points on me? I had a toneread on him, then I read his filter and found the things that I mentioned.

this one

On August 27 2015 00:34 VisceraEyes wrote:
Okay so I filtered Moosy, and the reason I thought he was one of the Wave pushers is because of the sheer number of times he mentions Wave's name, but it's in the context of "I want to hear from Wave" or "Game so hard w/o Wave" etc.

Based on this, I think it's actually more likely that Wave is town and Moosy is like, appealing to him or something. Trying to slip him in his pocket. Only problem with that is that he and Wave are like, TLLOLOTDT buddies, so it's not unreasonable to think that he's doing this as town....I just get a really bad feeling off Moosy.

The flip on marv. Ummmmmm.....I can see that from a mafia perspective. Especially if he's not super aware of Marv's meta, maybe his partners were like "WHOA BUDDY, BETTER TURN THAT SHIT AROUND" after he posted about lynching marv. Marv's right though, in a vacuum it seems townie.

Eeehhhhhhh....I like it better than an AFK Wave vote anyway. Certainly better than a JAT vote.

##Unvote
##Vote: MoosyDoosy

then he made a post about CC aswell.

Your explanation is cool though

well he gives a reason that his vote on wave was an "AFK Wave vote" i'm guessing with wave not being AFK it is no longer relevant

I don't get the impression that you've read VisceraEyes' filter recently.

But I don't feel like explaining it now. Maybe later.

Trfel

7015 Posts

August 27 2015 18:53 GMT

#1488

I changed my mind.

##unvote
##vote Hopeless1der

Trfel

7015 Posts

August 27 2015 21:35 GMT

#1703

What's happening?

Trfel

7015 Posts

August 27 2015 21:46 GMT

#1737

Darn it, I'm not reading fast enough to catch up in time.

It looks like boxerfred or Hopeless1der?

Trfel

7015 Posts

August 27 2015 21:46 GMT

#1739

And I'm pretty sure that Palmar would change his vote here.

Trfel

7015 Posts

August 27 2015 21:51 GMT

#1762

On August 28 2015 05:34 Hopeless1der wrote:
So yeah, gonna OMGUS trfel while still catching up. Don't like JAT for being a pissant and not helping but brief skim of the last few pages show he seems to be playing now. marv and palmar are free passes obviously. I think vivax, wave and moosy are town atm. Dont remember much else on the rest

Why do you think that Vivax, WaveofShadow, and MoosyDoosy are town?

Trfel

7015 Posts

August 27 2015 21:53 GMT

#1767

Lynch Hopeless1der. He is much more likely to be scum than boxerfred.

Boxerfred's filter makes sense from the busy/frustrated town perspective, even if it's annoying.

Hopeless1der isn't completely clueless. He was around a lot more in the mafia QT last game than he was posting in the thread. He signed up for a large game, he confirmed for the game in reasonable time. He said he would play. He didn't. His few posts this game have been unconvincing and basically what I would expect from mafia.

I am confident that Hopeless1der is mafia, I am not confident in boxerfred.

Is this an issue of associations with my alignment, as I pushed Hopeless1der first?

Trfel

7015 Posts

August 27 2015 21:55 GMT

#1772

On August 28 2015 06:54 MoosyDoosy wrote:

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If he’s Mafia, it’s an attempt to pocket and/or nail townies so that they immediately come into the red light once he flips Mafia.

If he’s town, then it’s genuine reads and they’re actually ones that I agree with which is why I do want to lynch boxer over hopeless.

If he provided his reasons, it could help see if these are genuine reads or not? So I don't see what you are getting at?

Boxerfred has been more "useless" than Hopeless1der, but that doesn't make him more scummy.

Trfel

7015 Posts

August 27 2015 21:56 GMT

#1777

On August 28 2015 06:56 MoosyDoosy wrote:

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Well he provided reasons, what do you think now?

Not sure..... Not sure......

Trfel

7015 Posts

August 27 2015 21:57 GMT

#1786

I think that Hopeless1der's post is okay, I suppose.

Bleh.

Switch to deconduo or something?

Trfel

7015 Posts

August 27 2015 21:59 GMT

#1794

On August 28 2015 06:58 rsoultin wrote:

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why not boxer?

Yeah, okay, I'll stick with Hopeless1der.

I'm simply not convinced that boxerfred is scum. At least for Hopeless1der, there's reasoning behind it. He made one okay post, but that doesn't make up for everything else.

Especially with a sarcastic interpretation of boxerfred's first post, I'm not convinced.

Trfel

7015 Posts

August 27 2015 22:09 GMT

#1808

On August 28 2015 07:09 Hopeless1der wrote:
welp im boned =\

Why do you say this?

Trfel

7015 Posts

August 27 2015 22:11 GMT

#1816

Wait, he had a role. Wow, he really should have claimed.

Trfel