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Palmar
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Iceland22633 Posts
September 02 2015 21:47 GMT
#3061
On September 03 2015 06:45 Palmar wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 03 2015 06:29 VisceraEyes wrote:
On September 03 2015 06:25 Mr. Cheesecake wrote:
I just dont understand why the hell you wouldnt hardclaims if you were the veteran vivax. You aint getting shot ever.

Also all of the blueclaims were fkin horrible this game besides marv. Palmar and trfel should have claimed d2. There is still a world in which they are mafia and vivax is the vet who random visited jat during the night and ve checked him.

Kelsier is in every world boys...

You keep saying I'm mafia then to try and get the lynch off Vivax you posit a world in which I'm town. Fucking got'em boys!


Ah you're right

he's trying to save mafia vivax, while you tracked the evil bastard.

This clearly means you're mafia and he's town.

To clarify

the paranoid guy who's being a dumbass, he's town.
the clean/correct guy, he's mafia.
Computer says mafia
MoosyDoosy
Profile Joined November 2014
United States4519 Posts
September 02 2015 21:48 GMT
#3062
palmar. if you don't stop being obstinate i will mark it as a mafia trying to muddle the thread.
"Just a second too late rsoultin :D" - My 4k Guardian post
Trfel
Profile Joined August 2011
7015 Posts
September 02 2015 21:48 GMT
#3063
On September 03 2015 06:48 MoosyDoosy wrote:
palmar. if you don't stop being obstinate i will mark it as a mafia trying to muddle the thread.
And what do I get marked as for this post?
Mr. Cheesecake
Profile Joined October 2012
United States3756 Posts
September 02 2015 21:52 GMT
#3064
Lynching confirmed scum is never a bad move Palmar.
But CC isn't protown as town. 100% real heuristic.
Trfel
Profile Joined August 2011
7015 Posts
September 02 2015 21:56 GMT
#3065
On September 03 2015 06:52 Mr. Cheesecake wrote:
Lynching confirmed scum is never a bad move Palmar.
But Vivax is basically confirmed scum ^^

Plus it's a lot more fun this way.
MoosyDoosy
Profile Joined November 2014
United States4519 Posts
September 02 2015 22:00 GMT
#3066
On September 03 2015 06:56 Trfel wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 03 2015 06:52 Mr. Cheesecake wrote:
Lynching confirmed scum is never a bad move Palmar.
But Vivax is basically confirmed scum ^^

Plus it's a lot more fun this way.

But say everyone is a blue role because of #BlazingHand. Then we're screwed over because Mafia should have a strong role and because of it, we lose the game next night. I'm asking you to reconsider and lynch Kels just in case this happens. Either way we can still lynch Vivax later but this way there isn’t the chance that we lose next night.
"Just a second too late rsoultin :D" - My 4k Guardian post
Blazinghand *
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United States25558 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-09-02 22:04:25
September 02 2015 22:01 GMT
#3067

Night 3

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Vivax the False Lead has been lynched!




Welcome to Night 3! This night ends in 24 hours at Thursday, Sep 03 10:00pm GMT (GMT+00:00). Please get all night actions to me and my co-hosts between now and then.
When you stare into the iCCup, the iCCup stares back.
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Trfel
Profile Joined August 2011
7015 Posts
September 02 2015 22:01 GMT
#3068
On September 03 2015 07:00 MoosyDoosy wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 03 2015 06:56 Trfel wrote:
On September 03 2015 06:52 Mr. Cheesecake wrote:
Lynching confirmed scum is never a bad move Palmar.
But Vivax is basically confirmed scum ^^

Plus it's a lot more fun this way.

But say everyone is a blue role because of #BlazingHand. Then we're screwed over because Mafia should have a strong role and because of it, we lose the game next night. I'm asking you to reconsider and lynch Kels just in case this happens. Either way we can still lynch Vivax later but this way there isn’t the chance that we lose next night.
Sorry, did I hear something?
MoosyDoosy
Profile Joined November 2014
United States4519 Posts
September 02 2015 22:02 GMT
#3069
niiiiice
"Just a second too late rsoultin :D" - My 4k Guardian post
MoosyDoosy
Profile Joined November 2014
United States4519 Posts
September 02 2015 22:02 GMT
#3070
On September 03 2015 07:01 Trfel wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 03 2015 07:00 MoosyDoosy wrote:
On September 03 2015 06:56 Trfel wrote:
On September 03 2015 06:52 Mr. Cheesecake wrote:
Lynching confirmed scum is never a bad move Palmar.
But Vivax is basically confirmed scum ^^

Plus it's a lot more fun this way.

But say everyone is a blue role because of #BlazingHand. Then we're screwed over because Mafia should have a strong role and because of it, we lose the game next night. I'm asking you to reconsider and lynch Kels just in case this happens. Either way we can still lynch Vivax later but this way there isn’t the chance that we lose next night.
Sorry, did I hear something?

wp good sir
"Just a second too late rsoultin :D" - My 4k Guardian post
Trfel
Profile Joined August 2011
7015 Posts
September 02 2015 22:05 GMT
#3071
On August 29 2015 06:43 rsoultin wrote:
town
vivax - tangentially aggressive/not his scum game


KelsierSC is mafia.

One between VisceraEyes and deconduo, I don't know which. I'll look into it tonight, but I think lynching both of them just wins the game.
MoosyDoosy
Profile Joined November 2014
United States4519 Posts
September 02 2015 22:08 GMT
#3072
i like this. i can just sheep strong townies and ride the train to victory.
"Just a second too late rsoultin :D" - My 4k Guardian post
MoosyDoosy
Profile Joined November 2014
United States4519 Posts
September 02 2015 22:09 GMT
#3073
On September 03 2015 07:05 Trfel wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 29 2015 06:43 rsoultin wrote:
town
vivax - tangentially aggressive/not his scum game


KelsierSC is mafia.

One between VisceraEyes and deconduo, I don't know which. I'll look into it tonight, but I think lynching both of them just wins the game.

i would lynch decon first tbh.
"Just a second too late rsoultin :D" - My 4k Guardian post
Mr. Cheesecake
Profile Joined October 2012
United States3756 Posts
September 02 2015 22:30 GMT
#3074
Thank the Lord. It feels SO good to know that I was correct about Vivax's push on me D2 coming across as the scummiest in the thread. No wonder nobody wanted to shennany on Vivax D1 =|

So we lynch KSC. Then probably VE. If the game still continues (I.E. VE is actually the tracker) then JAT is confirmed town and then we lynch one of moosy and decondou. I can also see a team of JAT/vivax/VE but that requires KSC not being mafia which is impossible.
But CC isn't protown as town. 100% real heuristic.
deconduo
Profile Blog Joined January 2008
Ireland4122 Posts
September 02 2015 22:35 GMT
#3075
Random thoughts.

Vivax post mortem:
Tried to push the lynch away from JAT onto trfel
Went after WoS for changing from a townread on CC to a scumread
Tried to push the lynch off the inactives (BF and hopeless) onto trfel.
Did not mention VE at all until today.
In general pushed trfel, palmar, CC, kelsier.

Overall reflects reasonably well on CC, Vivax seemed happy enough to have him lynched. Slight FOS on JAT for Vivax trying to lead the initial wagon away from him.



Kelsier:
No reason not to lynch him tomorrow, has all but claimed mafia at this point.

VE:
Almost certainly the last scum. Cop + Tracker + 2 masons just seems very townsided. Also this:

On September 01 2015 23:28 VisceraEyes wrote:
Because he claimed blue so I wanted to see if he was carrying KP for his team.


Vivax only claimed blue after the day post. VE could not have known Vivax was a blue when he decided to track him.

Moosy:
His play has been erratic, but his one post at the start of the game made me peg him as town.

On August 26 2015 11:20 MoosyDoosy wrote:
whew, i thought DMLE Investigator was a role and started shitting my pants until I re-looked over the OP and saw it was VT in this game.


I also had the same thing go through my head when I got my role PM. Seems unlikely that he could come up with this reaction as mafia.

JAT/CC:
In the unlikely event it does come down to lynching between these two, I'd lean towards JAT being scum over CC. Mainly due to Vivax's play as mentioned above.
Trfel
Profile Joined August 2011
7015 Posts
September 02 2015 22:42 GMT
#3076
Assuming KelsierSC is mafia (which is a safe assumption), justanothertownie is confirmed town.

Were justanothertownie mafia (with KelsierSC and Vivax), VisceraEyes would be town, meaning that Vivax roleblocked justanothertownie. I don't think mafia would roleblock themselves in a no notification game, thus justanothertownie is 100% town if KelsierSC is mafia.
Mr. Cheesecake
Profile Joined October 2012
United States3756 Posts
September 02 2015 22:46 GMT
#3077
On August 30 2015 07:25 Mr. Cheesecake wrote:
The paranoia of the scumcake is setting in full force. You guys are going to need better accusations than unspecific gutreads and the whole too townie to be town thing, juxtaposed with slight incoherence in my reads. I'm confirmed town by the fact that everyone in the game has wanted to lynch me for bad reasons except for Kelsier, although by his most recent post you can tell he is going to vote me despite having townread me for the entire game.

Lynching Hopeless probably just leads to him being town because he's bad (aka BF lynch), and then we are even further behind in this game. If hopeless is mafia we likely need to lynch outside of him.

Palmar is playing outstandingly terrible and should be lynched before this game is over.

Kelsier might be mafia attempting to pocket me this entire game, or the only relatively sane townie in this game. His favoritism towards me makes it hard to read him. If I flip I sincerely hope people will reevaluate his intentions.

Of all the people that pushed on me (re: entire game), I think Vivax comes off looking the scummiest. His post about my Palmar read early in the day felt forced to post and it was very lame. I've been posting tons of content for people to read and he nitpicks about one of my reads that hasn't developed.

VE is yet another person who has sheeped the bad scumread on me, despite having me in his townlean circle last night and listing 4 other people as mafia. Somehow, I've become his number 1 scumread today for something I did earlier on day 1, BEFORE his reads post.

Moosy's gutread on me is still outstanding and bad, but tbh that probably just makes him town because he never even tried to justify it meaningfully, where mafia would at least come up with some excuse.

Trfel probably doesn't just say he thinks hopeless is town and we shouldn't lynch him as mafia. If hopeless is mafia, obviously that makes him look bad. If hopeless is town, then he should want to get him lynched.

so lynch into VE/vivax/palmar/kels


This post D2 when everyone is voting me may be 100% correct except for Palmar, but he was blue so that's forgivable!

And decondou if that quote of yours from VE checks out, GG scumteam.
But CC isn't protown as town. 100% real heuristic.
Mr. Cheesecake
Profile Joined October 2012
United States3756 Posts
September 02 2015 22:47 GMT
#3078
Interesting that both blue roles chose to go after the mason pair. This looks easily like an all-in gone terribly wrong. I think the game is over at this point.
But CC isn't protown as town. 100% real heuristic.
deconduo
Profile Blog Joined January 2008
Ireland4122 Posts
September 02 2015 22:50 GMT
#3079
On September 03 2015 07:42 Trfel wrote:
Assuming KelsierSC is mafia (which is a safe assumption), justanothertownie is confirmed town.

Were justanothertownie mafia (with KelsierSC and Vivax), VisceraEyes would be town, meaning that Vivax roleblocked justanothertownie. I don't think mafia would roleblock themselves in a no notification game, thus justanothertownie is 100% town if KelsierSC is mafia.


Yup. A Vivax VE JAT scumteam is a small possibility however. But then VE's claim makes even less sense as he could just sit back and let KSC get lynched today.
Mr. Cheesecake
Profile Joined October 2012
United States3756 Posts
September 02 2015 22:54 GMT
#3080
Decondou just confirmed VE as mafia.

On September 01 2015 23:28 VisceraEyes wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 01 2015 23:21 justanothertownie wrote:
On September 01 2015 22:57 VisceraEyes wrote:
I'm a 2-shot Tracker, on N1 I tracked Marv to decon which checked out when marv claimed and last night I tracked Vivax to JAT.

I tracked Marv because I figured on N1 when mafia had 2kp, that would be the night marv would be carrying KP if he were mafia, so I YOLO'd and checked him instead of someone I was suspicious of.

So now I'm at a crossroads. Vivax has claimed a blue role, and I have him visiting JAT and JAT not dying. So he could be a mafia role or a blue role, but he's something because he visited JAT.

I'm not sure where I stand with Kelsier. Last night I was about certain he was mafia, but today knowing what I know, I think I prefer a Palmar/Trfel lynch today based on the fact that A.) everyone seems perfectly fine with a Kelsier lynch (including mafia) and B.) 1-Shot Cop + 2-Shot Tracker + 2 masons seems super OP for town. I'm thinking the masons are fake, Vivax is some sort of protective role and we're instead dealing with 1-Shot Cop, 2-Shot Tracker, Jailer/Medic.

##Vote: Palmar

There is no medic. Vivax can only be a jailer. Why did you track Vivax?

Because he claimed blue so I wanted to see if he was carrying KP for his team. Evidently he was not. So he's either not mafia or a mafia role who was not carrying KP, take your pick. I prefer the former because if I were mafia and I had a role, I'd be carrying the KP to minimize exposure to the team. Maybe I'm biased because I'm a tracker so I'm considering trackers in my play, but it just seems logical that if Vivax is mafia who has claimed blue, that he'd be carrying KP - and he wasn't.


Vivax was only vocally suspicious of the mason pair last night. He NEVER claimed blue until after the day post. VE is LYING and is MAFIA.

Nice attempts at lynching me, scummers.
But CC isn't protown as town. 100% real heuristic.
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