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Mr. Cheesecake
Profile Joined October 2012
United States3756 Posts
September 01 2015 03:29 GMT
#2848
I'm at the point where KSC is mafia for reasons stated prior. VE is mafia for giving no shits about the lynches because they were all on town and he hasn't done anything useful this game, just sat in the background sipping his coffee and stroking his beard while casually throwing his weight around my mislynch and calling me an enigma when his super scumread the previous night was Palmar. Then it's either JAT or moosy and it's gg
But CC isn't protown as town. 100% real heuristic.
Mr. Cheesecake
Profile Joined October 2012
United States3756 Posts
September 01 2015 03:29 GMT
#2849
oh and reevaluate decondou in final 3 if just goons pop up
But CC isn't protown as town. 100% real heuristic.
Mr. Cheesecake
Profile Joined October 2012
United States3756 Posts
September 01 2015 03:30 GMT
#2851
On September 01 2015 12:30 MoosyDoosy wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 01 2015 12:29 Mr. Cheesecake wrote:
I'm at the point where KSC is mafia for reasons stated prior. VE is mafia for giving no shits about the lynches because they were all on town and he hasn't done anything useful this game, just sat in the background sipping his coffee and stroking his beard while casually throwing his weight around my mislynch and calling me an enigma when his super scumread the previous night was Palmar. Then it's either JAT or moosy and it's gg

The game shouldn't be as easy as this.


I'd like it to be.
But CC isn't protown as town. 100% real heuristic.
Mr. Cheesecake
Profile Joined October 2012
United States3756 Posts
September 01 2015 03:32 GMT
#2852
The only problem is that a 1-shot cop + another minor role is too UP versus 3 scum + 2kp n1
But CC isn't protown as town. 100% real heuristic.
Mr. Cheesecake
Profile Joined October 2012
United States3756 Posts
September 01 2015 03:34 GMT
#2853
I just realized there are 14 players LOL
But CC isn't protown as town. 100% real heuristic.
Mr. Cheesecake
Profile Joined October 2012
United States3756 Posts
September 01 2015 03:44 GMT
#2854
What does Trfel gain by fakeclaiming mason there as mafia? He's absolutely linking himself together with palmar which is disastrous in the case that the other bluerole is a vigilante or one of them gets lynched. Like, it's incredibly all-in when town still has one mislynch left after hopeless dies.

What does Vivax gain by fakeclaiming here? Maybe we mislynch one of the masons. And I think he just claims tracker or something as mafia instead of hiding it purposely. His purpose has to be lynching one of the masons.. right? It can't be a long-term plan because he needs a reason for being alive if mafia don't shoot him.
But CC isn't protown as town. 100% real heuristic.
Mr. Cheesecake
Profile Joined October 2012
United States3756 Posts
September 01 2015 15:30 GMT
#2911
Now VE claims. So one of the claims is fake. Either one of vivax or VE is mafia or the mason pair is mafia.

That said, KSC is still mafia and we should be lynching him.
But CC isn't protown as town. 100% real heuristic.
Mr. Cheesecake
Profile Joined October 2012
United States3756 Posts
September 01 2015 15:38 GMT
#2914
Vivax needs to hardclaim and if he did visit jat.
But CC isn't protown as town. 100% real heuristic.
Mr. Cheesecake
Profile Joined October 2012
United States3756 Posts
September 02 2015 14:40 GMT
#2979
##Unvote
##Vote: Vivax


Mechanically best play. If town, the game automatically goes down to final three.

If Vivax comes back and does some weird shit in the last hour or two do NOT take votes off him. The only thing we should pay attention to is if VE was lying or not about him visiting JAT N2. I only care about his words on this if he flips town.
But CC isn't protown as town. 100% real heuristic.
Mr. Cheesecake
Profile Joined October 2012
United States3756 Posts
September 02 2015 18:27 GMT
#3004
Vivax if you are town you have nobody to blame but yourself. I specifically ASKED you to fully claim earlier in the day, but instead you chose the option of keeping it a secret for no reason. This gives me little cause to believe your blue claim, and you will die for it. Should you flip town, VE is confirmed mafia. Then, Kelsier dies. Then it's still final 3.
But CC isn't protown as town. 100% real heuristic.
Mr. Cheesecake
Profile Joined October 2012
United States3756 Posts
September 02 2015 19:04 GMT
#3032
On September 01 2015 08:51 Vivax wrote:
The reason the mason claim is even LESS believable is that I'm blue myself. I'm not going to say what I am specifically until the next night is over as well. For now they clearly preferred getting rid of marv even though I hinted that I was blue during the night.

##Vote: KSC

I'll pay more attention to the game again after this guy is dead.


On September 03 2015 03:37 Vivax wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 03 2015 03:36 deconduo wrote:
On September 03 2015 03:34 Vivax wrote:
On September 03 2015 03:33 deconduo wrote:
On September 03 2015 03:02 Vivax wrote:
I'm not a trackable role.



On September 03 2015 03:30 Vivax wrote:
I have a very good reason to keep my role a secret. It leaves mafia in the dark whether I'm just a PGO or a veteran who took bribes.


These two statements directly contradict each other.


Of course cause if I don't say I'm not trackable they immediately think I'm veteran doofus


Can you hardclaim now please.


Ok I am veteran. I took bribes. I hoped they would shoot and RB me. And if you lynch me and there's a mafia vig which makes perfect sense with 2 masons and a veteran, and they probably also have a roleblocker, you lose the game tomorrow.


Yeah, you tried to throw scum on the masons because you knew you were blue. Now you are saying that masons + your role makes perfect sense.
But CC isn't protown as town. 100% real heuristic.
Mr. Cheesecake
Profile Joined October 2012
United States3756 Posts
September 02 2015 19:06 GMT
#3033
We also know that Kelsier is mafia, there is no denying it at this point.

For posterity i'm going to switch my vote back to Kelsier, because either lynch is acceptable.
But CC isn't protown as town. 100% real heuristic.
Mr. Cheesecake
Profile Joined October 2012
United States3756 Posts
September 02 2015 19:13 GMT
#3037
On September 03 2015 04:09 Vivax wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 03 2015 04:04 Mr. Cheesecake wrote:
On September 01 2015 08:51 Vivax wrote:
The reason the mason claim is even LESS believable is that I'm blue myself. I'm not going to say what I am specifically until the next night is over as well. For now they clearly preferred getting rid of marv even though I hinted that I was blue during the night.

##Vote: KSC

I'll pay more attention to the game again after this guy is dead.


On September 03 2015 03:37 Vivax wrote:
On September 03 2015 03:36 deconduo wrote:
On September 03 2015 03:34 Vivax wrote:
On September 03 2015 03:33 deconduo wrote:
On September 03 2015 03:02 Vivax wrote:
I'm not a trackable role.



On September 03 2015 03:30 Vivax wrote:
I have a very good reason to keep my role a secret. It leaves mafia in the dark whether I'm just a PGO or a veteran who took bribes.


These two statements directly contradict each other.


Of course cause if I don't say I'm not trackable they immediately think I'm veteran doofus


Can you hardclaim now please.


Ok I am veteran. I took bribes. I hoped they would shoot and RB me. And if you lynch me and there's a mafia vig which makes perfect sense with 2 masons and a veteran, and they probably also have a roleblocker, you lose the game tomorrow.


Yeah, you tried to throw scum on the masons because you knew you were blue. Now you are saying that masons + your role makes perfect sense.


It seems that today logical thinking is turned off.

With me being vet and marv being cop, it doesn't make sense for there to be two masons.

BUT, with me being vet, VE claiming another role, and mafia most likely having a vigi to win the game after another mislynch, it makes sense for there to be two masons.


The world you are trying to push is that you are the vet, marv was the cop, and there are two masons. So the world only does not exist unless VE claims?
But CC isn't protown as town. 100% real heuristic.
Mr. Cheesecake
Profile Joined October 2012
United States3756 Posts
September 02 2015 19:14 GMT
#3038
It seems perfectly reasonable for a 1-shot cop, masons, and a vet even before VE claimed. There's no reason to assume mafia wouldn't have power roles.
But CC isn't protown as town. 100% real heuristic.
Mr. Cheesecake
Profile Joined October 2012
United States3756 Posts
September 02 2015 21:23 GMT
#3045
I dont think VE is town based on his play. Its been awful.

However, Kelsier is the safest lynch today. If mafia are pulling shenannies then Vivax has a good point. Kels could just be the scum vigi. Either eay we know kels is confirmed mafia. Lynch him you fucks.
But CC isn't protown as town. 100% real heuristic.
Mr. Cheesecake
Profile Joined October 2012
United States3756 Posts
September 02 2015 21:25 GMT
#3046
I just dont understand why the hell you wouldnt hardclaims if you were the veteran vivax. You aint getting shot ever.

Also all of the blueclaims were fkin horrible this game besides marv. Palmar and trfel should have claimed d2. There is still a world in which they are mafia and vivax is the vet who random visited jat during the night and ve checked him.

Kelsier is in every world boys...
But CC isn't protown as town. 100% real heuristic.
Mr. Cheesecake
Profile Joined October 2012
United States3756 Posts
September 02 2015 21:28 GMT
#3049
On September 03 2015 04:16 Vivax wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 03 2015 04:14 Mr. Cheesecake wrote:
It seems perfectly reasonable for a 1-shot cop, masons, and a vet even before VE claimed. There's no reason to assume mafia wouldn't have power roles.


No it's not reasonable cause that's like 5 confirmed townies when the cop checks a townie, which wouldn't be balanced without a mafia vig who we didn't see act last night.


My point isthat you were assuming mafia didnt have any power roles like framer gf roleblocker rolecop etc for no reason. even if we didnt see double kp from a scum vig last night doesnt mean one didnt exist.
But CC isn't protown as town. 100% real heuristic.
Mr. Cheesecake
Profile Joined October 2012
United States3756 Posts
September 02 2015 21:29 GMT
#3051
On September 03 2015 06:26 Palmar wrote:
Vivax is confirmed mafia CC stop the bullshit bro.


Maybe his shit is getting to me. Just ksc has claimed scum in thread and nobody lynch him makes me eery
But CC isn't protown as town. 100% real heuristic.
Mr. Cheesecake
Profile Joined October 2012
United States3756 Posts
September 02 2015 21:32 GMT
#3053
On September 03 2015 06:29 VisceraEyes wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 03 2015 06:25 Mr. Cheesecake wrote:
I just dont understand why the hell you wouldnt hardclaims if you were the veteran vivax. You aint getting shot ever.

Also all of the blueclaims were fkin horrible this game besides marv. Palmar and trfel should have claimed d2. There is still a world in which they are mafia and vivax is the vet who random visited jat during the night and ve checked him.

Kelsier is in every world boys...

You keep saying I'm mafia then to try and get the lynch off Vivax you posit a world in which I'm town. Fucking got'em boys!


Im going through every possibility.

And dont call /my/ play shit when youve been calling me mafia for bad reasons since n1.

Excuse me for being paranoid. I still think vivax is the likely scum here, just him bringing up the vigi thing makes some sort of sense.
But CC isn't protown as town. 100% real heuristic.
Mr. Cheesecake
Profile Joined October 2012
United States3756 Posts
September 02 2015 21:37 GMT
#3055
On September 03 2015 06:33 VisceraEyes wrote:
I never called your play shit bish, you're just calling /my/ play shit for no reason other than to discredit me and try and call me mafia. AND THAT SHIT ISN'T GONNA FLY CHEESE I DON'T CARE HOW SEXY YOU ARE!!


The only reason you may be town is because of your claim. I was reading you scum up until that point.
But CC isn't protown as town. 100% real heuristic.
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