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On August 28 2015 23:15 Rels wrote:
OK then OWS; do you think Chezinu is scum ?
He's my current most likely candidate, yes.
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On August 28 2015 23:18 Rels wrote:
And yes, the analysis is exactly "OWS shot the nuke 1 minute after nuke deadline, while he was in the thread for 7 hours, made 17 posts, and none of them looked like he was really thinking about who to lynch. BTW, Breshke who made this observation in his second to last post is now dead."
Bullshit.
And I was at work the whole time.
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On August 28 2015 23:17 Rels wrote:Show nested quote +On August 28 2015 23:13 ObiWanShinobi wrote:On August 28 2015 17:34 Rels wrote:Now, about ObiWanShinobi. I'm sure every town is the game has this guy as possible mafia, by virtue of the rayn town circle + POE. But now that I'm sure Chezinu is mafia, I'm pretty sure OWS is mafia as well. Why ? Look at what Onegu posted just before the D4 post: On August 28 2015 06:26 Onegu wrote:
The nuke on Chezinu was lanched after the nuke deadline. PMs with the nukes were told you had to launch 1 hour before deadline. The nuke will be refunded. So every owner of a nuke given by Breshke or Yamato were told they had to fire the nuke at most 1 hour before deadline. Look at what JJ did: On August 28 2015 04:56 JudgeJudy wrote:
lol I was hoping to see which one obi would go with, but I'm not sure how much longer I'll be around this afternoon. Go ahead and send yours at chez, maybe we can end the game tonight.
Moma has been holding on to a present! ^_^
##Nuke: Fecalfeast He waited until 4 minutes before the nuke deadline to see what OWS would do; then he fired his nuke, so the nuke would work. Now look at what OWS did: On August 28 2015 05:01 ObiWanShinobi wrote:
K well since my boss is a fucking asshole and won't let me take a lunch break I guess I'm probably just going to yolo kill chez and hope for the best. 1 minute AFTER the nuke deadline, he tried to fire his nuke while EXPLAINING WHY HE DID IT SO LATE. So of course the nuke didn't work. And it's not like he didn't have time to think about it! The whole thread only talked about nuke targets N3. OWS came back to the thread 6 HOURS BEFORE NUKE DEADLINE and posted SEVENTEEN POSTS until his nuke ONE MINUTE AFTER DEADLINE. All of these 17 posts says he's not sure about who to lynch. But he was NOT LOOKING FOR CLUES ABOUT NUKING SOMEONE. He was just posting he's not sure. Here is town Breshke remarking it (second to last post ... RIP): On August 28 2015 00:54 Breshke wrote:
Tbh I don't like how obi said he is reading stuff to make his decision but isn't showing any evidence of it in the thread. Like normally I feel like people have at least one or two quotes they want clarifying
Think he said he was phone posting so it could be hard for him to do so but kind of makes me think he is mafia And here are the SEVENTEEN POSTS I talked about: + Show Spoiler +On August 27 2015 22:47 ObiWanShinobi wrote:Show nested quote +On August 27 2015 21:29 Rels wrote:fidei I'll let you do your thing. @OWS when you come back 1 - OK to nuke Chez ? 2 - Read this cool theory (and the posts following if you didn't already, lots of discussion took place) http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/mafia/491840-the-new-personality-mafia?page=141#28173 - What do you think of that ? + Show Spoiler +On August 27 2015 18:02 Rels wrote:Show nested quote +On August 27 2015 17:45 Rels wrote:
Fuck sorry geript. About your KSC is rsoultin suicide role theory: don't see any smiley on his filter. OK the multiple posts stating "I'm the towniest town in the game" + "I'm too pretty to kill" may be rsoultin. The spam may be JAT ? Don't know him, don't know if he would say "I'm the towniest town in the game". OWS you're super strong at guessing roles apparently, could KSC be rsoultin ? Cause I wanna believe that rsoultin suicide role theory. I might nuke chez but I'm still reading stuff. Doubtful that ksc is Rso imo. On August 27 2015 22:52 ObiWanShinobi wrote:Show nested quote +On August 27 2015 22:49 Chezinu wrote:On August 27 2015 22:47 ObiWanShinobi wrote:On August 27 2015 21:29 Rels wrote:fidei I'll let you do your thing. @OWS when you come back 1 - OK to nuke Chez ? 2 - Read this cool theory (and the posts following if you didn't already, lots of discussion took place) http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/mafia/491840-the-new-personality-mafia?page=141#28173 - What do you think of that ? + Show Spoiler +On August 27 2015 18:02 Rels wrote:Show nested quote +On August 27 2015 17:45 Rels wrote:
Fuck sorry geript. About your KSC is rsoultin suicide role theory: don't see any smiley on his filter. OK the multiple posts stating "I'm the towniest town in the game" + "I'm too pretty to kill" may be rsoultin. The spam may be JAT ? Don't know him, don't know if he would say "I'm the towniest town in the game". OWS you're super strong at guessing roles apparently, could KSC be rsoultin ? Cause I wanna believe that rsoultin suicide role theory. I might nuke chez but I'm still reading stuff. Doubtful that ksc is Rso imo. Everybody wants to nuke the chez! The town The mafia The brown? I gathered. Who should I nuke in your place? Forgive me if I missed it but I can't parse the thread via phone too well. On August 27 2015 23:01 ObiWanShinobi wrote:Show nested quote +On August 27 2015 22:54 Chezinu wrote:On August 27 2015 22:52 ObiWanShinobi wrote:On August 27 2015 22:49 Chezinu wrote:On August 27 2015 22:47 ObiWanShinobi wrote:On August 27 2015 21:29 Rels wrote:fidei I'll let you do your thing. @OWS when you come back 1 - OK to nuke Chez ? 2 - Read this cool theory (and the posts following if you didn't already, lots of discussion took place) http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/mafia/491840-the-new-personality-mafia?page=141#28173 - What do you think of that ? + Show Spoiler +On August 27 2015 18:02 Rels wrote:Show nested quote +On August 27 2015 17:45 Rels wrote:
Fuck sorry geript. About your KSC is rsoultin suicide role theory: don't see any smiley on his filter. OK the multiple posts stating "I'm the towniest town in the game" + "I'm too pretty to kill" may be rsoultin. The spam may be JAT ? Don't know him, don't know if he would say "I'm the towniest town in the game". OWS you're super strong at guessing roles apparently, could KSC be rsoultin ? Cause I wanna believe that rsoultin suicide role theory. I might nuke chez but I'm still reading stuff. Doubtful that ksc is Rso imo. Everybody wants to nuke the chez! The town The mafia The brown? I gathered. Who should I nuke in your place? Forgive me if I missed it but I can't parse the thread via phone too well. FF, I think that should clear me. Remind me why that is and why exactly I should do that? On August 27 2015 23:09 ObiWanShinobi wrote:
Doesn't role blocker return "no result" or how exactly does that happen? On August 27 2015 23:40 ObiWanShinobi wrote:
@jj: he had two checks in one night? Where did he claim that? I can't look for myself.
Ff is 100% the best nuke in the case of conflicting role claims. On August 28 2015 00:04 ObiWanShinobi wrote:Show nested quote +On August 27 2015 23:59 Breshke wrote:
Tictock FF could very well be mafia yes. There is a lot of discrepancies which does not look good for him. People can make bad checks like obviously checking geript there wasn't optimal because we already had two checks on him basically. I will also agree that on the other side of the same coin mafia can make sub optimal plays and bad claims and that could very well be what FF has done.
The fact of the mater is FF is going to get a check on KSC so weather you think FF is mafia or not i think it is optimal to let him liveto give us this information on KSC because if he says KSC is green as i have explained it basically confirms him.
Also do you not think it is weird that chez hasn't claimed what his role actually does? (has he?) Half the game is calling for him to get nuked you think he would try leverage it with his power.
Yeah that's not really how information works. On August 28 2015 00:23 ObiWanShinobi wrote:
mmm
I feel like I could make a solid choice nuking either or chez/ff but that doesn't really make it easier. On August 28 2015 00:33 ObiWanShinobi wrote:Yeah I'm gonna be kind of sad if it's fake.  On August 28 2015 01:01 ObiWanShinobi wrote:
Shock and surprise nobody trusts me.
W/e. On August 28 2015 01:03 ObiWanShinobi wrote:
Yeah I fucking get it. On August 28 2015 01:15 ObiWanShinobi wrote:
I kind of feel like chez would probably be the best nuke here, considering having him alive is going to shut discussion down for another day.
The thing is: can the same be said about ff? On August 28 2015 01:38 ObiWanShinobi wrote:
Damdred could easily be on the lynch table tomorrow, nuking him seems like a bit of a waste at this juncture. On August 28 2015 02:02 ObiWanShinobi wrote:Show nested quote +On August 28 2015 01:49 Fidei86 wrote:On August 28 2015 01:38 ObiWanShinobi wrote:
Damdred could easily be on the lynch table tomorrow, nuking him seems like a bit of a waste at this juncture. Explain to me why town would lynch Damdred? Ask the people that want to nuke him. On August 28 2015 02:16 ObiWanShinobi wrote:Show nested quote +On August 28 2015 02:02 geript wrote:
TBH, nuking him makes far more sense than lynching him. But it is kinda a waste if he has an antinuke. Yeah. On August 28 2015 02:27 ObiWanShinobi wrote:
Damdred would claim anti nukes regardless of whether or not he actually had them in this position though.
Chez is probably still the best nuke. On August 28 2015 02:57 ObiWanShinobi wrote:
The bit I found towny about chez was his fight with rels.
That's the thing that's stopping me from nuking him atm. On August 28 2015 03:46 ObiWanShinobi wrote:Show nested quote +On August 28 2015 03:38 Damdred wrote:
Lets be honest here, you are debating nukeing a third party who has helped town with shenanigans onto god father rayn.
Lynches Lt which has 0 town cred.
And ny death puts you closer to lylo.
Though if you are going to nuke me ows ho on and do it so I can give out as much info as I can so it doesn't get surprise here's a nuke. I'm not going to nuke you. I'm torn between chez and ff. Hopefully I can reread something when I'm on lunch break. On August 28 2015 05:01 ObiWanShinobi wrote:
K well since my boss is a fucking asshole and won't let me take a lunch break I guess I'm probably just going to yolo kill chez and hope for the best. OK! So why did he do this ? Here is what I believe happened: - OWS and Chezinu mafia together, maybe the last ones - OWS delayed the time to make a decision during several hours - Just after the nuke deadline passed, OWS finally posted he would nuke Chezinu - But of course the nuke didn't work And here is why he did itHe nuked Chezinu 1 minute after nuke deadline so he would not kill his partner. But he nuked Chezinu so he would gain town cred after Chez flipped. He also nuked after the deadline so he still kept the nuke to use on anyone else in case Chezinu flipped; after all, supposing there are 5 mafias, he would be the last alive; nuking anyone would be good for him. TLDROWS purposefully nuked Chezinu 1 minute after nuke deadline. He did it so Chezinu lived another day; for the towncred if Chezinu flipped; and to keep the nuke for another person later. Except it was unclear whether or not the nuke actually had to be fired 1 hour after deadline. Even then, this analysis doesn't really say anything other than "Obi didn't nuke chez, so he's mafia." There could be any variation of town/mafia in your proposed analysis but it's inconclusive regardless. So you didn't receive a PM saying the nuke had to be fired 1 hour before deadline ? Or was it not clear ?
Yes and no. It was unclear.
I thought the 1 hour before deadline bit was in regards to the actual deadline rather than the silent deadline. If it worked for tubesock, why wouldn't it work for me?
/shrug
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On August 28 2015 23:22 Rels wrote:Show nested quote +On August 28 2015 23:17 Rels wrote:On August 28 2015 23:13 ObiWanShinobi wrote:On August 28 2015 17:34 Rels wrote:Now, about ObiWanShinobi. I'm sure every town is the game has this guy as possible mafia, by virtue of the rayn town circle + POE. But now that I'm sure Chezinu is mafia, I'm pretty sure OWS is mafia as well. Why ? Look at what Onegu posted just before the D4 post: On August 28 2015 06:26 Onegu wrote:
The nuke on Chezinu was lanched after the nuke deadline. PMs with the nukes were told you had to launch 1 hour before deadline. The nuke will be refunded. So every owner of a nuke given by Breshke or Yamato were told they had to fire the nuke at most 1 hour before deadline. Look at what JJ did: On August 28 2015 04:56 JudgeJudy wrote:
lol I was hoping to see which one obi would go with, but I'm not sure how much longer I'll be around this afternoon. Go ahead and send yours at chez, maybe we can end the game tonight.
Moma has been holding on to a present! ^_^
##Nuke: Fecalfeast He waited until 4 minutes before the nuke deadline to see what OWS would do; then he fired his nuke, so the nuke would work. Now look at what OWS did: On August 28 2015 05:01 ObiWanShinobi wrote:
K well since my boss is a fucking asshole and won't let me take a lunch break I guess I'm probably just going to yolo kill chez and hope for the best. 1 minute AFTER the nuke deadline, he tried to fire his nuke while EXPLAINING WHY HE DID IT SO LATE. So of course the nuke didn't work. And it's not like he didn't have time to think about it! The whole thread only talked about nuke targets N3. OWS came back to the thread 6 HOURS BEFORE NUKE DEADLINE and posted SEVENTEEN POSTS until his nuke ONE MINUTE AFTER DEADLINE. All of these 17 posts says he's not sure about who to lynch. But he was NOT LOOKING FOR CLUES ABOUT NUKING SOMEONE. He was just posting he's not sure. Here is town Breshke remarking it (second to last post ... RIP): On August 28 2015 00:54 Breshke wrote:
Tbh I don't like how obi said he is reading stuff to make his decision but isn't showing any evidence of it in the thread. Like normally I feel like people have at least one or two quotes they want clarifying
Think he said he was phone posting so it could be hard for him to do so but kind of makes me think he is mafia And here are the SEVENTEEN POSTS I talked about: + Show Spoiler +On August 27 2015 22:47 ObiWanShinobi wrote:Show nested quote +On August 27 2015 21:29 Rels wrote:fidei I'll let you do your thing. @OWS when you come back 1 - OK to nuke Chez ? 2 - Read this cool theory (and the posts following if you didn't already, lots of discussion took place) http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/mafia/491840-the-new-personality-mafia?page=141#28173 - What do you think of that ? + Show Spoiler +On August 27 2015 18:02 Rels wrote:Show nested quote +On August 27 2015 17:45 Rels wrote:
Fuck sorry geript. About your KSC is rsoultin suicide role theory: don't see any smiley on his filter. OK the multiple posts stating "I'm the towniest town in the game" + "I'm too pretty to kill" may be rsoultin. The spam may be JAT ? Don't know him, don't know if he would say "I'm the towniest town in the game". OWS you're super strong at guessing roles apparently, could KSC be rsoultin ? Cause I wanna believe that rsoultin suicide role theory. I might nuke chez but I'm still reading stuff. Doubtful that ksc is Rso imo. On August 27 2015 22:52 ObiWanShinobi wrote:Show nested quote +On August 27 2015 22:49 Chezinu wrote:On August 27 2015 22:47 ObiWanShinobi wrote:On August 27 2015 21:29 Rels wrote:fidei I'll let you do your thing. @OWS when you come back 1 - OK to nuke Chez ? 2 - Read this cool theory (and the posts following if you didn't already, lots of discussion took place) http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/mafia/491840-the-new-personality-mafia?page=141#28173 - What do you think of that ? + Show Spoiler +On August 27 2015 18:02 Rels wrote:Show nested quote +On August 27 2015 17:45 Rels wrote:
Fuck sorry geript. About your KSC is rsoultin suicide role theory: don't see any smiley on his filter. OK the multiple posts stating "I'm the towniest town in the game" + "I'm too pretty to kill" may be rsoultin. The spam may be JAT ? Don't know him, don't know if he would say "I'm the towniest town in the game". OWS you're super strong at guessing roles apparently, could KSC be rsoultin ? Cause I wanna believe that rsoultin suicide role theory. I might nuke chez but I'm still reading stuff. Doubtful that ksc is Rso imo. Everybody wants to nuke the chez! The town The mafia The brown? I gathered. Who should I nuke in your place? Forgive me if I missed it but I can't parse the thread via phone too well. On August 27 2015 23:01 ObiWanShinobi wrote:Show nested quote +On August 27 2015 22:54 Chezinu wrote:On August 27 2015 22:52 ObiWanShinobi wrote:On August 27 2015 22:49 Chezinu wrote:On August 27 2015 22:47 ObiWanShinobi wrote:On August 27 2015 21:29 Rels wrote:fidei I'll let you do your thing. @OWS when you come back 1 - OK to nuke Chez ? 2 - Read this cool theory (and the posts following if you didn't already, lots of discussion took place) http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/mafia/491840-the-new-personality-mafia?page=141#28173 - What do you think of that ? + Show Spoiler +On August 27 2015 18:02 Rels wrote:Show nested quote +On August 27 2015 17:45 Rels wrote:
Fuck sorry geript. About your KSC is rsoultin suicide role theory: don't see any smiley on his filter. OK the multiple posts stating "I'm the towniest town in the game" + "I'm too pretty to kill" may be rsoultin. The spam may be JAT ? Don't know him, don't know if he would say "I'm the towniest town in the game". OWS you're super strong at guessing roles apparently, could KSC be rsoultin ? Cause I wanna believe that rsoultin suicide role theory. I might nuke chez but I'm still reading stuff. Doubtful that ksc is Rso imo. Everybody wants to nuke the chez! The town The mafia The brown? I gathered. Who should I nuke in your place? Forgive me if I missed it but I can't parse the thread via phone too well. FF, I think that should clear me. Remind me why that is and why exactly I should do that? On August 27 2015 23:09 ObiWanShinobi wrote:
Doesn't role blocker return "no result" or how exactly does that happen? On August 27 2015 23:40 ObiWanShinobi wrote:
@jj: he had two checks in one night? Where did he claim that? I can't look for myself.
Ff is 100% the best nuke in the case of conflicting role claims. On August 28 2015 00:04 ObiWanShinobi wrote:Show nested quote +On August 27 2015 23:59 Breshke wrote:
Tictock FF could very well be mafia yes. There is a lot of discrepancies which does not look good for him. People can make bad checks like obviously checking geript there wasn't optimal because we already had two checks on him basically. I will also agree that on the other side of the same coin mafia can make sub optimal plays and bad claims and that could very well be what FF has done.
The fact of the mater is FF is going to get a check on KSC so weather you think FF is mafia or not i think it is optimal to let him liveto give us this information on KSC because if he says KSC is green as i have explained it basically confirms him.
Also do you not think it is weird that chez hasn't claimed what his role actually does? (has he?) Half the game is calling for him to get nuked you think he would try leverage it with his power.
Yeah that's not really how information works. On August 28 2015 00:23 ObiWanShinobi wrote:
mmm
I feel like I could make a solid choice nuking either or chez/ff but that doesn't really make it easier. On August 28 2015 00:33 ObiWanShinobi wrote:Yeah I'm gonna be kind of sad if it's fake. On August 28 2015 01:01 ObiWanShinobi wrote:
Shock and surprise nobody trusts me.
W/e. On August 28 2015 01:03 ObiWanShinobi wrote:
Yeah I fucking get it. On August 28 2015 01:15 ObiWanShinobi wrote:
I kind of feel like chez would probably be the best nuke here, considering having him alive is going to shut discussion down for another day.
The thing is: can the same be said about ff? On August 28 2015 01:38 ObiWanShinobi wrote:
Damdred could easily be on the lynch table tomorrow, nuking him seems like a bit of a waste at this juncture. On August 28 2015 02:02 ObiWanShinobi wrote:Show nested quote +On August 28 2015 01:49 Fidei86 wrote:On August 28 2015 01:38 ObiWanShinobi wrote:
Damdred could easily be on the lynch table tomorrow, nuking him seems like a bit of a waste at this juncture. Explain to me why town would lynch Damdred? Ask the people that want to nuke him. On August 28 2015 02:16 ObiWanShinobi wrote:Show nested quote +On August 28 2015 02:02 geript wrote:
TBH, nuking him makes far more sense than lynching him. But it is kinda a waste if he has an antinuke. Yeah. On August 28 2015 02:27 ObiWanShinobi wrote:
Damdred would claim anti nukes regardless of whether or not he actually had them in this position though.
Chez is probably still the best nuke. On August 28 2015 02:57 ObiWanShinobi wrote:
The bit I found towny about chez was his fight with rels.
That's the thing that's stopping me from nuking him atm. On August 28 2015 03:46 ObiWanShinobi wrote:Show nested quote +On August 28 2015 03:38 Damdred wrote:
Lets be honest here, you are debating nukeing a third party who has helped town with shenanigans onto god father rayn.
Lynches Lt which has 0 town cred.
And ny death puts you closer to lylo.
Though if you are going to nuke me ows ho on and do it so I can give out as much info as I can so it doesn't get surprise here's a nuke. I'm not going to nuke you. I'm torn between chez and ff. Hopefully I can reread something when I'm on lunch break. On August 28 2015 05:01 ObiWanShinobi wrote:
K well since my boss is a fucking asshole and won't let me take a lunch break I guess I'm probably just going to yolo kill chez and hope for the best. OK! So why did he do this ? Here is what I believe happened: - OWS and Chezinu mafia together, maybe the last ones - OWS delayed the time to make a decision during several hours - Just after the nuke deadline passed, OWS finally posted he would nuke Chezinu - But of course the nuke didn't work And here is why he did itHe nuked Chezinu 1 minute after nuke deadline so he would not kill his partner. But he nuked Chezinu so he would gain town cred after Chez flipped. He also nuked after the deadline so he still kept the nuke to use on anyone else in case Chezinu flipped; after all, supposing there are 5 mafias, he would be the last alive; nuking anyone would be good for him. TLDROWS purposefully nuked Chezinu 1 minute after nuke deadline. He did it so Chezinu lived another day; for the towncred if Chezinu flipped; and to keep the nuke for another person later. Except it was unclear whether or not the nuke actually had to be fired 1 hour after deadline. Even then, this analysis doesn't really say anything other than "Obi didn't nuke chez, so he's mafia." There could be any variation of town/mafia in your proposed analysis but it's inconclusive regardless. So you didn't receive a PM saying the nuke had to be fired 1 hour before deadline ? Or was it not clear ?
I fucking answered it.
Get off my dick.
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On August 28 2015 23:24 Rels wrote:Show nested quote +On August 28 2015 23:23 ObiWanShinobi wrote:On August 28 2015 23:22 Rels wrote:On August 28 2015 23:17 Rels wrote:On August 28 2015 23:13 ObiWanShinobi wrote:On August 28 2015 17:34 Rels wrote:Now, about ObiWanShinobi. I'm sure every town is the game has this guy as possible mafia, by virtue of the rayn town circle + POE. But now that I'm sure Chezinu is mafia, I'm pretty sure OWS is mafia as well. Why ? Look at what Onegu posted just before the D4 post: On August 28 2015 06:26 Onegu wrote:
The nuke on Chezinu was lanched after the nuke deadline. PMs with the nukes were told you had to launch 1 hour before deadline. The nuke will be refunded. So every owner of a nuke given by Breshke or Yamato were told they had to fire the nuke at most 1 hour before deadline. Look at what JJ did: On August 28 2015 04:56 JudgeJudy wrote:
lol I was hoping to see which one obi would go with, but I'm not sure how much longer I'll be around this afternoon. Go ahead and send yours at chez, maybe we can end the game tonight.
Moma has been holding on to a present! ^_^
##Nuke: Fecalfeast He waited until 4 minutes before the nuke deadline to see what OWS would do; then he fired his nuke, so the nuke would work. Now look at what OWS did: On August 28 2015 05:01 ObiWanShinobi wrote:
K well since my boss is a fucking asshole and won't let me take a lunch break I guess I'm probably just going to yolo kill chez and hope for the best. 1 minute AFTER the nuke deadline, he tried to fire his nuke while EXPLAINING WHY HE DID IT SO LATE. So of course the nuke didn't work. And it's not like he didn't have time to think about it! The whole thread only talked about nuke targets N3. OWS came back to the thread 6 HOURS BEFORE NUKE DEADLINE and posted SEVENTEEN POSTS until his nuke ONE MINUTE AFTER DEADLINE. All of these 17 posts says he's not sure about who to lynch. But he was NOT LOOKING FOR CLUES ABOUT NUKING SOMEONE. He was just posting he's not sure. Here is town Breshke remarking it (second to last post ... RIP): On August 28 2015 00:54 Breshke wrote:
Tbh I don't like how obi said he is reading stuff to make his decision but isn't showing any evidence of it in the thread. Like normally I feel like people have at least one or two quotes they want clarifying
Think he said he was phone posting so it could be hard for him to do so but kind of makes me think he is mafia And here are the SEVENTEEN POSTS I talked about: + Show Spoiler +On August 27 2015 22:47 ObiWanShinobi wrote:Show nested quote +On August 27 2015 21:29 Rels wrote:fidei I'll let you do your thing. @OWS when you come back 1 - OK to nuke Chez ? 2 - Read this cool theory (and the posts following if you didn't already, lots of discussion took place) http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/mafia/491840-the-new-personality-mafia?page=141#28173 - What do you think of that ? + Show Spoiler +On August 27 2015 18:02 Rels wrote:Show nested quote +On August 27 2015 17:45 Rels wrote:
Fuck sorry geript. About your KSC is rsoultin suicide role theory: don't see any smiley on his filter. OK the multiple posts stating "I'm the towniest town in the game" + "I'm too pretty to kill" may be rsoultin. The spam may be JAT ? Don't know him, don't know if he would say "I'm the towniest town in the game". OWS you're super strong at guessing roles apparently, could KSC be rsoultin ? Cause I wanna believe that rsoultin suicide role theory. I might nuke chez but I'm still reading stuff. Doubtful that ksc is Rso imo. On August 27 2015 22:52 ObiWanShinobi wrote:Show nested quote +On August 27 2015 22:49 Chezinu wrote:On August 27 2015 22:47 ObiWanShinobi wrote:On August 27 2015 21:29 Rels wrote:fidei I'll let you do your thing. @OWS when you come back 1 - OK to nuke Chez ? 2 - Read this cool theory (and the posts following if you didn't already, lots of discussion took place) http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/mafia/491840-the-new-personality-mafia?page=141#28173 - What do you think of that ? + Show Spoiler +On August 27 2015 18:02 Rels wrote:Show nested quote +On August 27 2015 17:45 Rels wrote:
Fuck sorry geript. About your KSC is rsoultin suicide role theory: don't see any smiley on his filter. OK the multiple posts stating "I'm the towniest town in the game" + "I'm too pretty to kill" may be rsoultin. The spam may be JAT ? Don't know him, don't know if he would say "I'm the towniest town in the game". OWS you're super strong at guessing roles apparently, could KSC be rsoultin ? Cause I wanna believe that rsoultin suicide role theory. I might nuke chez but I'm still reading stuff. Doubtful that ksc is Rso imo. Everybody wants to nuke the chez! The town The mafia The brown? I gathered. Who should I nuke in your place? Forgive me if I missed it but I can't parse the thread via phone too well. On August 27 2015 23:01 ObiWanShinobi wrote:Show nested quote +On August 27 2015 22:54 Chezinu wrote:On August 27 2015 22:52 ObiWanShinobi wrote:On August 27 2015 22:49 Chezinu wrote:On August 27 2015 22:47 ObiWanShinobi wrote:On August 27 2015 21:29 Rels wrote:fidei I'll let you do your thing. @OWS when you come back 1 - OK to nuke Chez ? 2 - Read this cool theory (and the posts following if you didn't already, lots of discussion took place) http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/mafia/491840-the-new-personality-mafia?page=141#28173 - What do you think of that ? + Show Spoiler +On August 27 2015 18:02 Rels wrote:Show nested quote +On August 27 2015 17:45 Rels wrote:
Fuck sorry geript. About your KSC is rsoultin suicide role theory: don't see any smiley on his filter. OK the multiple posts stating "I'm the towniest town in the game" + "I'm too pretty to kill" may be rsoultin. The spam may be JAT ? Don't know him, don't know if he would say "I'm the towniest town in the game". OWS you're super strong at guessing roles apparently, could KSC be rsoultin ? Cause I wanna believe that rsoultin suicide role theory. I might nuke chez but I'm still reading stuff. Doubtful that ksc is Rso imo. Everybody wants to nuke the chez! The town The mafia The brown? I gathered. Who should I nuke in your place? Forgive me if I missed it but I can't parse the thread via phone too well. FF, I think that should clear me. Remind me why that is and why exactly I should do that? On August 27 2015 23:09 ObiWanShinobi wrote:
Doesn't role blocker return "no result" or how exactly does that happen? On August 27 2015 23:40 ObiWanShinobi wrote:
@jj: he had two checks in one night? Where did he claim that? I can't look for myself.
Ff is 100% the best nuke in the case of conflicting role claims. On August 28 2015 00:04 ObiWanShinobi wrote:Show nested quote +On August 27 2015 23:59 Breshke wrote:
Tictock FF could very well be mafia yes. There is a lot of discrepancies which does not look good for him. People can make bad checks like obviously checking geript there wasn't optimal because we already had two checks on him basically. I will also agree that on the other side of the same coin mafia can make sub optimal plays and bad claims and that could very well be what FF has done.
The fact of the mater is FF is going to get a check on KSC so weather you think FF is mafia or not i think it is optimal to let him liveto give us this information on KSC because if he says KSC is green as i have explained it basically confirms him.
Also do you not think it is weird that chez hasn't claimed what his role actually does? (has he?) Half the game is calling for him to get nuked you think he would try leverage it with his power.
Yeah that's not really how information works. On August 28 2015 00:23 ObiWanShinobi wrote:
mmm
I feel like I could make a solid choice nuking either or chez/ff but that doesn't really make it easier. On August 28 2015 00:33 ObiWanShinobi wrote:Yeah I'm gonna be kind of sad if it's fake. On August 28 2015 01:01 ObiWanShinobi wrote:
Shock and surprise nobody trusts me.
W/e. On August 28 2015 01:03 ObiWanShinobi wrote:
Yeah I fucking get it. On August 28 2015 01:15 ObiWanShinobi wrote:
I kind of feel like chez would probably be the best nuke here, considering having him alive is going to shut discussion down for another day.
The thing is: can the same be said about ff? On August 28 2015 01:38 ObiWanShinobi wrote:
Damdred could easily be on the lynch table tomorrow, nuking him seems like a bit of a waste at this juncture. On August 28 2015 02:02 ObiWanShinobi wrote:Show nested quote +On August 28 2015 01:49 Fidei86 wrote:On August 28 2015 01:38 ObiWanShinobi wrote:
Damdred could easily be on the lynch table tomorrow, nuking him seems like a bit of a waste at this juncture. Explain to me why town would lynch Damdred? Ask the people that want to nuke him. On August 28 2015 02:16 ObiWanShinobi wrote:Show nested quote +On August 28 2015 02:02 geript wrote:
TBH, nuking him makes far more sense than lynching him. But it is kinda a waste if he has an antinuke. Yeah. On August 28 2015 02:27 ObiWanShinobi wrote:
Damdred would claim anti nukes regardless of whether or not he actually had them in this position though.
Chez is probably still the best nuke. On August 28 2015 02:57 ObiWanShinobi wrote:
The bit I found towny about chez was his fight with rels.
That's the thing that's stopping me from nuking him atm. On August 28 2015 03:46 ObiWanShinobi wrote:Show nested quote +On August 28 2015 03:38 Damdred wrote:
Lets be honest here, you are debating nukeing a third party who has helped town with shenanigans onto god father rayn.
Lynches Lt which has 0 town cred.
And ny death puts you closer to lylo.
Though if you are going to nuke me ows ho on and do it so I can give out as much info as I can so it doesn't get surprise here's a nuke. I'm not going to nuke you. I'm torn between chez and ff. Hopefully I can reread something when I'm on lunch break. On August 28 2015 05:01 ObiWanShinobi wrote:
K well since my boss is a fucking asshole and won't let me take a lunch break I guess I'm probably just going to yolo kill chez and hope for the best. OK! So why did he do this ? Here is what I believe happened: - OWS and Chezinu mafia together, maybe the last ones - OWS delayed the time to make a decision during several hours - Just after the nuke deadline passed, OWS finally posted he would nuke Chezinu - But of course the nuke didn't work And here is why he did itHe nuked Chezinu 1 minute after nuke deadline so he would not kill his partner. But he nuked Chezinu so he would gain town cred after Chez flipped. He also nuked after the deadline so he still kept the nuke to use on anyone else in case Chezinu flipped; after all, supposing there are 5 mafias, he would be the last alive; nuking anyone would be good for him. TLDROWS purposefully nuked Chezinu 1 minute after nuke deadline. He did it so Chezinu lived another day; for the towncred if Chezinu flipped; and to keep the nuke for another person later. Except it was unclear whether or not the nuke actually had to be fired 1 hour after deadline. Even then, this analysis doesn't really say anything other than "Obi didn't nuke chez, so he's mafia." There could be any variation of town/mafia in your proposed analysis but it's inconclusive regardless. So you didn't receive a PM saying the nuke had to be fired 1 hour before deadline ? Or was it not clear ? I fucking answered it. Get off my dick. No. Who could be partner with Chezinu ? I think it's you or KSC. Are you OK nuking KSC ?
I don't have the answer to that question.
Why to either of those players?
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Technically I know why you don't trust me, but your analysis is convoluted and dumb so it doesn't count.
Why KSC?
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On August 28 2015 23:29 Rels wrote:You: because of the 1 minute after deadline thing, and because I was thinking you were town D1 and you didn't do a whole lot since; exactly like your last game where you got lynched at LYLO, where everybody townread you early, then gradually realized you were mafia 'cause you didn't do anything starting D3. KSC: Show nested quote +On August 28 2015 22:46 Rels wrote:On August 28 2015 22:35 JudgeJudy wrote:
What do you think about KSC, Rels? Now that FF has flipped town, do you buy the claim that KSC was fake claiming cop as town? We need to kill him before LYLO. I had no scumread nor townread of him until this morning. The guy made sure he was unreadable. Now, the FF flip this morning confirmed he was lying about the check. The moment that happened, he did this: On August 28 2015 08:14 KelsierSC wrote:
i checked a dead man
Then 20 minutes later he actually rescinded his cop claim: On August 28 2015 08:32 KelsierSC wrote:
soap
here's the thing, i don't actually have a way of checking people
i'm a town vigi, i shot geript n1 for the lolz,
he didnt die so i assumed he was a vet and called him town
then i took a punt on LT being mafia next night
but for my town defence, i got people to vote rayn
and LT
so im town
i just havent really played properly
So several things are super weird: 1 - he fakeclaimed for the entire game 2 - he made sure he was unreadable for the entire game 3 - we don't know if KSC would have rescinded his claim without FF flipping 4 - before he rescinded, he posted he checked a dead man; maybe he tried to cover his fakeclaim by claiming the dead check, before realising it's not coherent, then he claimed vig 5 - he didn't post much this game but is over defensive the moment someone talks about him being scummy. KSC stating he was the main force behind rayn and LT's lynches is LOL worthy We need to lynch him sooner or later. Not over 100% mafia Chezinu, but maybe tomorrow.
I don't see how these points warrant a lynch.
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I may be biased because I keep thinking a KSC lynch is bad.
I feel like people are resigned towards trying to lynch him for being lazy, and I'm not sure that's a tell for him either way.
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On August 28 2015 23:33 Rels wrote:Show nested quote +On August 28 2015 23:31 ObiWanShinobi wrote:On August 28 2015 23:29 Rels wrote:You: because of the 1 minute after deadline thing, and because I was thinking you were town D1 and you didn't do a whole lot since; exactly like your last game where you got lynched at LYLO, where everybody townread you early, then gradually realized you were mafia 'cause you didn't do anything starting D3. KSC: On August 28 2015 22:46 Rels wrote:On August 28 2015 22:35 JudgeJudy wrote:
What do you think about KSC, Rels? Now that FF has flipped town, do you buy the claim that KSC was fake claiming cop as town? We need to kill him before LYLO. I had no scumread nor townread of him until this morning. The guy made sure he was unreadable. Now, the FF flip this morning confirmed he was lying about the check. The moment that happened, he did this: On August 28 2015 08:14 KelsierSC wrote:
i checked a dead man
Then 20 minutes later he actually rescinded his cop claim: On August 28 2015 08:32 KelsierSC wrote:
soap
here's the thing, i don't actually have a way of checking people
i'm a town vigi, i shot geript n1 for the lolz,
he didnt die so i assumed he was a vet and called him town
then i took a punt on LT being mafia next night
but for my town defence, i got people to vote rayn
and LT
so im town
i just havent really played properly
So several things are super weird: 1 - he fakeclaimed for the entire game 2 - he made sure he was unreadable for the entire game 3 - we don't know if KSC would have rescinded his claim without FF flipping 4 - before he rescinded, he posted he checked a dead man; maybe he tried to cover his fakeclaim by claiming the dead check, before realising it's not coherent, then he claimed vig 5 - he didn't post much this game but is over defensive the moment someone talks about him being scummy. KSC stating he was the main force behind rayn and LT's lynches is LOL worthy We need to lynch him sooner or later. Not over 100% mafia Chezinu, but maybe tomorrow. I don't see how these points warrant a lynch. OK. I'll let you make cases on who you want then.
I doubt I'll make a giant case on someone but I'll be doing stuff today.
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On August 28 2015 23:35 JudgeJudy wrote:![[image loading]](http://i.imgur.com/zpjhojL.gif) Show nested quote +On August 28 2015 23:33 ObiWanShinobi wrote:
I may be biased because I keep thinking a KSC lynch is bad.
I feel like people are resigned towards trying to lynch him for being lazy, and I'm not sure that's a tell for him either way. Show nested quote +On August 21 2015 02:08 ObiWanShinobi wrote:
Kels will step up eventually if he is town. You used that exact tell to read him earlier though...
No I didn't.
I mostly left him alone.
I'm aware that I've been hedging on him a lot but I've had tons of trouble reading KSC in the past so I keep trying to put it off as much as I can.
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Like if someone could make a reasonable case on why KSC is mafia then I'd run with it.
I didn't really put much stock in Rels' case on him so if someone else can tell me why we should lynch him, that'd be cool.
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On August 28 2015 23:40 Rels wrote:Show nested quote +On August 28 2015 23:36 ObiWanShinobi wrote:On August 28 2015 23:35 JudgeJudy wrote:On August 28 2015 23:33 ObiWanShinobi wrote:
I may be biased because I keep thinking a KSC lynch is bad.
I feel like people are resigned towards trying to lynch him for being lazy, and I'm not sure that's a tell for him either way. On August 21 2015 02:08 ObiWanShinobi wrote:
Kels will step up eventually if he is town. You used that exact tell to read him earlier though... No I didn't. I mostly left him alone. I'm aware that I've been hedging on him a lot but I've had tons of trouble reading KSC in the past so I keep trying to put it off as much as I can. Hey. You said KSC will step up eventually. He didn't. Let's nuke him so we don't have to waste a lynch on him.
I am well aware of this.
But he lynched mafia twice, which technically falls under stepping up.
I'm going to spend some time looking into it (after mkx) but his play kind of reminds me of the last game he played where he was town and he lynched my teammates after huge bouts of inactivity.
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On August 28 2015 23:46 Rels wrote:Show nested quote +On August 28 2015 23:43 ObiWanShinobi wrote:On August 28 2015 23:40 Rels wrote:On August 28 2015 23:36 ObiWanShinobi wrote:On August 28 2015 23:35 JudgeJudy wrote:On August 28 2015 23:33 ObiWanShinobi wrote:
I may be biased because I keep thinking a KSC lynch is bad.
I feel like people are resigned towards trying to lynch him for being lazy, and I'm not sure that's a tell for him either way. On August 21 2015 02:08 ObiWanShinobi wrote:
Kels will step up eventually if he is town. You used that exact tell to read him earlier though... No I didn't. I mostly left him alone. I'm aware that I've been hedging on him a lot but I've had tons of trouble reading KSC in the past so I keep trying to put it off as much as I can. Hey. You said KSC will step up eventually. He didn't. Let's nuke him so we don't have to waste a lynch on him. I am well aware of this. But he lynched mafia twice, which technically falls under stepping up. I'm going to spend some time looking into it (after mkx) but his play kind of reminds me of the last game he played where he was town and he lynched my teammates after huge bouts of inactivity. He didn't do shit. LT's lynch was decided before his red check. He fakeclaimed which got FF to get nuked because we had two different checks on the same target. He caused the death of a cop. And when said cop flipped, he rescinded his claim.
I might be remembering things wrong, then.
Hrm.
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On August 28 2015 23:52 Rels wrote:Show nested quote +On August 28 2015 23:48 ObiWanShinobi wrote:On August 28 2015 23:46 Rels wrote:On August 28 2015 23:43 ObiWanShinobi wrote:On August 28 2015 23:40 Rels wrote:On August 28 2015 23:36 ObiWanShinobi wrote:On August 28 2015 23:35 JudgeJudy wrote:On August 28 2015 23:33 ObiWanShinobi wrote:
I may be biased because I keep thinking a KSC lynch is bad.
I feel like people are resigned towards trying to lynch him for being lazy, and I'm not sure that's a tell for him either way. On August 21 2015 02:08 ObiWanShinobi wrote:
Kels will step up eventually if he is town. You used that exact tell to read him earlier though... No I didn't. I mostly left him alone. I'm aware that I've been hedging on him a lot but I've had tons of trouble reading KSC in the past so I keep trying to put it off as much as I can. Hey. You said KSC will step up eventually. He didn't. Let's nuke him so we don't have to waste a lynch on him. I am well aware of this. But he lynched mafia twice, which technically falls under stepping up. I'm going to spend some time looking into it (after mkx) but his play kind of reminds me of the last game he played where he was town and he lynched my teammates after huge bouts of inactivity. He didn't do shit. LT's lynch was decided before his red check. He fakeclaimed which got FF to get nuked because we had two different checks on the same target. He caused the death of a cop. And when said cop flipped, he rescinded his claim. I might be remembering things wrong, then. Hrm. Maybe I'm wrong on the helping the LT lynch. LT was confirmed mafia in my mind N2 for the 3 posts saying "check rayn" + sheeping a vote on me + not switching while being semi AFK + nuking not the second vote wagon. But maybe KSC's red check helped others vote him.
Honestly I do feel like I have to look at it again. I've been writing it off as "he lynched mafia" so I mostly gave him a pass (plus, I thought him defending rux was towny/goofy) but it might not be enough at this juncture.
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Already been addressed.
Pay attention.
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On August 29 2015 03:00 Tictock wrote:Show nested quote +On August 29 2015 02:55 ObiWanShinobi wrote:
Already been addressed.
Pay attention. So do something that sways me. Talk is cheap.
Shut up idiot.
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I'm so tired of winding up getting tunneled over every little fucking thing.
It's getting old.
If you feel like getting a runthrough of my opinions, they're out there. There's 0 reason for you not to be able to see them and I'm not going to rehash them for someone that won't read the thread.
Anyways, I'm going out for a bit. I'm aware I need to follow up on some ksc research (and plausibly something geript did that rels picked up on) but I won't be able to do that until later.
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No opinions.
Jesus christ.
You're not even trying.
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