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raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43268 Posts
August 11 2015 21:30 GMT
#460
Vivax can you explain these people why ruxxar is mafia because i am apparently incapable of doing so, Palmar doesn't give any fucks, rsoultin idk, Artanis does not read. I don't know who else to go to.
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raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43268 Posts
August 11 2015 21:35 GMT
#466
On August 12 2015 06:30 Artanis[Xp] wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 12 2015 06:25 raynpelikoneet wrote:
On August 12 2015 05:31 Artanis[Xp] wrote:
I think VE might be mafia. First reason is:
On August 12 2015 01:05 VisceraEyes wrote:
Oh I wanted to be the very first to throw scum on Artanis just for being good at being scum. He's scary as fuck and if he lives longer than 3 days we kill him no questions period k? Thx.

I don't recall VE being someone that fearmongers this much. I'm far from the best mafia player around as well. I've had two good mafia games and the rest have been washes. It also achieves scum objectives in the sense that it throws suspicion on me without actually quantifying it with anything. Vivax did something similar, but he's Vivax.

Secondly, he clearly wasn't reading the thread.
On August 12 2015 01:00 VisceraEyes wrote:
The real question is: why isn't anyone else suspicious of Trfel if he's NOT mafia. That's the real question.

Plenty of people indicated townreads on Trfel at that point, and I had called his play suspicious as well before coming back to it later.

Fine:

1) VE jsut had a game where he wanted to kill the shit out of me because he felt like i was "pocketing him again" as he had townread me when i was scum for two games in a row. You can call that "fearmongering", i call this "similar approach".

2) There are several instances where VE has not been reading the thread properly, like in the last game he wanted to kill me 36h later i had already flipped.

case closed?
Here is game: http://www.vendetta-strada.net/showthread.php?tid=1994

I'm not reading an entire game but I'll take your word for it.
##Unvote
I'll try rereading Ruxxar again but I really don't think he's scum still.

Actual posts:
1) http://www.vendetta-strada.net/showthread.php?tid=1994&pid=202816#pid202816
2) http://www.vendetta-strada.net/showthread.php?tid=1994&pid=204313#pid204313 (read a couple of posts further)
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raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43268 Posts
August 11 2015 21:36 GMT
#467
On August 12 2015 06:33 Artanis[Xp] wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 12 2015 06:30 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Vivax can you explain these people why ruxxar is mafia because i am apparently incapable of doing so, Palmar doesn't give any fucks, rsoultin idk, Artanis does not read. I don't know who else to go to.

It might be because you keep saying I don't read without actually explaining what I'm apparently reading wrongly.

you are saying stuff like "ruxxar reread and come to a different conclusion" which is not what happened at all.
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raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43268 Posts
August 11 2015 21:41 GMT
#470
On August 12 2015 06:40 Vivax wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 12 2015 06:37 deconduo wrote:
On August 12 2015 06:34 Vivax wrote:
On August 12 2015 06:33 deconduo wrote:
On August 12 2015 06:31 Vivax wrote:
On August 12 2015 06:27 deconduo wrote:
On August 12 2015 06:26 Vivax wrote:
On August 12 2015 02:58 deconduo wrote:
On August 11 2015 11:23 Trfel wrote:
I know this sounds really stupid, but...

Rsoultin seems a bit towny here. Her opening post felt relaxed, and more importantly, happy to be in the game. Given that rsoultin really doesn't like playing scum, has played scum frequently in her last several games, and had a very frustrating game as town that ended earlier today (despite the game being a victory), it's hard for me to see her actually being happy as mafia this early on in the game.

I hope I'm not making the same mistake yet again T.T


I noticed a couple of people finding fault with this read. I agree that RS's opening posts are enthusiastic, and though I don't know if the rest is true ("Given that rsoultin really doesn't like playing scum"), no one has contradicted this yet, including RS, that I have seen.


On August 11 2015 15:51 ruXxar wrote:
Hello team.
My name is ruxxy and I'm a hurricane *whoosh*.
Also am town ^^


On August 11 2015 18:01 Artanis[Xp] wrote:
I'm also claiming Millderer.


On August 11 2015 18:02 Palmar wrote:
hey guys I rolled town so pls no lyncherino

not decided yet if I'm going to do things.


I dislike these kind of posts. I don't think they are a tell either way, but I just find them tacky. Yes this is a rant, and is mostly just filler

On August 11 2015 22:41 VisceraEyes wrote:
Hi! I don't like Trfel and my hurricane name is a GIRLS name. Both of those statements make me SOOOOOO angry.


However this I really don't like. I understand the whole WIFOM thing, but really we want to limit this sort of information as much as possible. I don't see how it benefits us, whether its a lie or not.



On August 12 2015 06:10 deconduo wrote:
Even with everyone jumping on ruxx, I don't see anything jump out at me reading through his filter. The mixup looks to be genuine.


Where has the post gone that you disliked son?


I dislike these kind of posts. I don't think they are a tell either way, but I just find them tacky.



Given your total absence of scumreads I figured you would have pulled out a method of figuring them out by now. If that wasn't it, what have you got to offer?


Read the last page of the thread maybe?


You mean how you scumread VE cause you don't understand the roleclaim? I think that's bad enough of a justification to be taken into consideration for a proper scumread.


On August 12 2015 06:32 Vivax wrote:
I think the explanation is that they didn't read properly, or don't care to do so.


Do you ever take your own advice?


No need to, I'll just get Ruxxar lynched and then lynch you for being stupid or mafia.

no we need to lynch hopelesswonder D2.
you can push deconduo on N2 if you want to.
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raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43268 Posts
August 11 2015 21:45 GMT
#471
On August 12 2015 06:10 deconduo wrote:
Even with everyone jumping on ruxx, I don't see anything jump out at me reading through his filter. The mixup looks to be genuine.

can you elaborate on this please?
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raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43268 Posts
August 11 2015 21:52 GMT
#474
I don't exactly meta read you ever VE.
Just because it's been like 2yrs since i have seen you as mafia.
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raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43268 Posts
August 11 2015 21:56 GMT
#476
On August 12 2015 02:15 Trfel wrote:
Vivax, when I was making that post on Chezinu, I felt like my posts were really suspicious. I was scared that Damdred would catch me, so that's why I asked for his opinion first so I could agree with it. When he didn't give any, I felt like if I just left I would look really scummy, so I just posted the first thing that came into my mind.

I wanted to ask this earlier.
Trfel why do you say this?
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raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43268 Posts
August 11 2015 21:57 GMT
#477
On August 12 2015 06:56 Damdred wrote:
Yea I'm pretty sure ruxxar is town in this case, he contradicted himself,and what he said doesn't make sense but it doesn't make sense.

I just think you are wrong just Luke last game we played with him and just tunneling,now. If let's say it was palmar or rs or myself who made that slip I think you would have a stronger case but it's really,nia of ruxxar in this situation.

it is not similar at all.
"being dumb" is one thing, saying two different things on one thing is another.
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raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43268 Posts
August 11 2015 22:05 GMT
#479
Like i am trying to be as clear as possible:

ruxxar says one of Vivax/Hopeless is mafia
Vivax makes a post.
He says one of them "looks a bit better"
He pushes Vivax (with questioning, but it is essentially the same thing because if he thought Hopeless was mafia then he would Q him instead) also see green
People call him out for the read because it is not clear who is he even talking about
I ask him "which one does look a bit better" (because i have just voted for hopeless)
He says random other things
I tell him to answer clearly
He says "Vivax looks better"
I ask why do you question Vivax then instead of Hopeless?
He says, "because i thought this green post made was by artanis. I fucked up"
I ask him "why did you then push Vivax based on the SAME post. Like if that post is from Artanis (as you thought) why are you pushing Vivax for that post?

dudeeeesssS????
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raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43268 Posts
August 11 2015 22:08 GMT
#480
Like this post in question is supposed to be somehow something that made him go back from his scumread on Vivax (later on), but at the same time (at first) it is the ORIGINAL reason he is pushing Vivax.

nonono.
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raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43268 Posts
August 11 2015 22:12 GMT
#487
dude artanis.

he is saying "the post i first read from vivax (i even argued with multiple posts with him about it) is not a scumtell for him anymore because i thought at THAT TIME IT CAME FROM ARTANIS"

ASDFKMJDMFASNFAS
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raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43268 Posts
August 11 2015 22:12 GMT
#488
On August 12 2015 07:11 Chezinu wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 12 2015 05:37 raynpelikoneet wrote:
On August 12 2015 05:27 Chezinu wrote:
On August 12 2015 03:41 VisceraEyes wrote:
@Chez

Everyone knows about the Chezinu rule. Have for a long time. Does this alter your perception of its validity?

No.

It has never failed. ever.

lie

????

It has never failed!! Find a game where it has.

mafia champions game where you played.
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raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43268 Posts
August 11 2015 22:14 GMT
#489
"The post i first read from vivax (i even argued with multiple posts with him about it) is not a scumtell for him anymore because i thought at THAT TIME IT CAME FROM ARTANIS"

seriously people?
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raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43268 Posts
August 11 2015 22:15 GMT
#490
EBWOP:
"The post i first read from vivax (i even argued with multiple posts with him about it) is not a scumtell for him anymore because i thought AT THAT TIME IT CAME FROM ARTANIS"
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raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43268 Posts
August 11 2015 22:17 GMT
#492
On August 12 2015 07:16 Artanis[Xp] wrote:
That falls in the "makes absolutely no sense" category.

It falls into the "i am changing my story" category.
Town does not do that.
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raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43268 Posts
August 11 2015 22:21 GMT
#496
mehhh....
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raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43268 Posts
August 11 2015 22:22 GMT
#498
Chezinu i don't give a fuck to be honest.
We are not lynching Damdred or Trfel unless you have a more convincing argument.
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raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43268 Posts
August 11 2015 22:30 GMT
#500
I am sorry Chezinu i just do not trust this "read" enough.
I think it is possible that Trfel is mafia for his "woe on me i am so scummy" post.
But ruxxar is scum. If you want to push another scum in Trfel please do try.
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raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43268 Posts
August 11 2015 22:32 GMT
#502
Obviously it does not.
In this instance it does, however.
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raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43268 Posts
August 11 2015 22:48 GMT
#505
On August 12 2015 07:36 Damdred wrote:
I wouldn't mind a prp lynch for general policy or a fee others maybe

ehh this is dumb. like how can you even argue this over ruxxar?

Fine. Trfel. I could lynch Trfel for what i just said to Chezinu.
Hopeless, for my case.
I could lynch deconduo because i don't feel like he is scumhunting and i don't even think he is right.
idk, not all of them can be mafia. And i think Ruxxar is most likely to be.
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