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ruXxar
Norway5669 Posts
On July 30 2015 13:12 MoosyDoosy wrote: So you literally just read what I said wrong 3 times in a row and/or out of context. Like congrats. You're a good townie. No, he read it exactly the same way as me, and he's on point. | ||
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ruXxar
Norway5669 Posts
On July 30 2015 07:09 n00bKing wrote: He never said he doesn't get that point. He just doesn't touch on it. Maybe he thought that part didn't need to be mentioned. You know...because it's common sense. Gee, I guess I shouldn't talk about that, huh? Did you forget AGAIN that only Scum could be sure there won't be another Cop claim? If you want to claim Scum, there are easier ways to do it. How about you do talk about it. Did you try to warn moosy about Scott being a cop, yes or no? It's a simple question. | ||
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ruXxar
Norway5669 Posts
On July 30 2015 07:18 n00bKing wrote: You don't even know what he's saying in that post. But don't worry, if you want to scumread him for it, he'll probably oblige you himself. Back to work. Later, fools! What IS he saying in that post then? Give me your interpretation of it. | ||
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Rels
France13467 Posts
On July 30 2015 05:47 MoosyDoosy wrote: This won't make a difference because you'll use some form of confirmation bias but I'll give it a shot. n00bKing has been widely regarded as town until you two started piling shit on him after D2. No cop would and should waste a check on n00bKing because he is town. Also, it was able to be deduced that scott was cop for reasons that I stated before. n00bKing obviously didn't want to disclose this information so that Mafia would figure it out and he IN FACT warned me when I posted my reasoning for why scott should be town. However this ended up not mattering because Damdred made everyone pile votes on scott which made him role claim. ...Is that simple enough? In this post, in addition to not answering the fucking question, Moosy said this noobking knew scott was cop during D2 This is obviously fucking false, and if you're doubting this you haven't read the game. Now Moosy has refused to clarify his position. Furthermore, noobking, who jumped at the slightest mistake in writing formulation, never attacked him on that even when asked. @noobking & Moosy: question time is too late, you had your chance. And the more you claim "XXX is dumb", "town is dumb" and "I'm mafia lynch me", the more confirmed you become. ##Vote n00bKing | ||
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Rels
France13467 Posts
They both used ad hom attacks to attack the credibility of people multiple times. noobking saying "I know TT is town". noobking being OK lynching un cc cop over TT. Moosy claiming nookbing knew about scott being cop. noobking and Moosy both claiming that "if Rels is cop, he wouldn't check noobking", but they still didn't explain it. | ||
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Breshke
Australia3749 Posts
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Rels
France13467 Posts
On July 30 2015 17:10 Breshke wrote: Rels in isolation who do you think is scummier Moosey or Noobking? noobking definitely. Moosy I had town for day 1 for appearing to not care. Only reasons I'm sure he's mafia now is: - defending noobking but not explaining - ad hom attack on ruxx + myself + the whole town (I'll be surprised if he doesn't get warned tbh) - claiming noobking knew scott was cop, ignored ruxxar's and my questions about it - not defending himself for the whole game, instead going "good job i'm mafia" If I'm wrong about him then NM is probably mafia. But I have a hard time seeing noobking + NM. | ||
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Rels
France13467 Posts
On July 30 2015 17:10 Breshke wrote: Rels in isolation who do you think is scummier Moosey or Noobking? And you what do you think ? | ||
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Breshke
Australia3749 Posts
Moosey. I think his play EoD2 is really damming given other things he has said. | ||
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ruXxar
Norway5669 Posts
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Rels
France13467 Posts
On July 30 2015 19:20 ruXxar wrote: Rels, will you play another game after this one? Sure! Love playing this game (= | ||
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disformation
Germany8352 Posts
Will read MoosyDoosy and n00bKing again today evening. | ||
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Breshke
Australia3749 Posts
Someone said that noobking and NM are probably not a team but i dont reamember who? If someone could explain that it would be useful. I think a team of Moosy and NM makes sence considering that scum Moosy would probably just push a town NM EOD2 instead of just sitting in the thread and sheeping a vote onto someone who he "knew was a PR". This could just be him not keeping a straight story but I want to lynch moosy first and when he flips scum ill probably want to lynch NM over Noobking but the game probably ends after all 3 are dead anyway so it doesn't really matter that much. | ||
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disformation
Germany8352 Posts
On July 30 2015 22:58 Breshke wrote: So the reason i asked Rels who he scumread more was because I think a team of Moosy and N00bking is kind of weird specifically because of how different moosys answer was about the Rels RB thing. Also if they both were mafia hardcore defending each other like this would be super bad play. I rather dislike MD for his recent posts, but will look at both their filters do determine who actually looks more scummy. Probably will axe them a few questions because I am not quite sure what really triggered the wave of bad posts. Though MD first saying he is trying to pocket/buddy all the town ppl and then proceeding to insult everyone is kinda... something. xD | ||
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Breshke
Australia3749 Posts
On July 30 2015 23:04 disformation wrote: Also if they both were mafia hardcore defending each other like this would be super bad play. I rather dislike MD for his recent posts, but will look at both their filters do determine who actually looks more scummy. Probably will axe them a few questions because I am not quite sure what really triggered the wave of bad posts. Though MD first saying he is trying to pocket/buddy all the town ppl and then proceeding to insult everyone is kinda... something. xD When reading MD's filter try look at his EoD2 in the context that he apparently hard townread TT and was fairly certain scott was a PR. | ||
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Rels
France13467 Posts
1 - noobking affirmed I lied multiple times I'm sure you're all tired of the the back and forth between us so I won't comment on that specifically. After I defended myself again and again, noobking still affirmed I lied multiple times. See spoiler. + Show Spoiler + On July 26 2015 04:13 n00bKing wrote: lol! How can you try to say that his remarks were prepared before he posted them, and also try to say that he didn't have to think about them before he posted them? This is like the 4th time you've gotten yourself tangled up in a self-contradiction already. On July 27 2015 02:40 n00bKing wrote: Yes, Rels has clarified his posts. And it's gotten him caught in a lie. On July 27 2015 03:29 n00bKing wrote: Once he decided to make the lie, he could decide to try and stick with it, because admitting that it was a lie will be seen as suspicious. On July 27 2015 03:50 n00bKing wrote: Okay...and do you feel that Rels has adequately explained how his lie was beneficial for the Town? Because I do not. On July 27 2015 03:55 n00bKing wrote: And I am not lying about you lying. You're caught in a lie. And caught badly enough that you had to resort to a third retcon job. On July 27 2015 05:28 n00bKing wrote: You seemed to understand what made Rels a liar On July 27 2015 17:12 n00bKing wrote: And you could have admitted that you made a mistake instead of telling the lie, or you could have tried to say that it only looks like a lie because you changed your mind. But you never did. You only stood by the lie, and defended the lie. On July 27 2015 18:02 n00bKing wrote: I *think* the second one is true. I *KNOW* the first one is true. On July 30 2015 03:41 n00bKing wrote: Because see, this is what a TOWN player does when they turn out to be mistaken about something. As opposed to covering it up with a lie, and then standing by that lie for the entire rest of the game, like someone else we know. When I ask him to summarize my lie in one sentence, his response was: + Show Spoiler + On July 27 2015 17:12 n00bKing wrote: You said that he thought long and hard before making the post, instead of being free of mind and just posting what he felt, and then said that you never said his remarks required thought, and admitted that his remarks are off-the-cuff instant reactions. There is no lie in this sentence. So noobking still insisting on my lie makes 0 sense for a townie. Mafia!noobking would do that to: a - push suspicions on me b - even if I'm read town, attack my credibility 2 - I was roleblocked; noobking affirmed that if I was cop I would never check him, but never explain his reasonning N1, I said that if I was cop, I would check noobking. I was roleblocked. Now noobking affirmed two things: a - I was probably not the cop b - Even if I was the cop, I wouldn't check the person I said I would check (noobking) When asked to explain the second part, he wasn't able to produce a viable explanation. Furthermore, even without being able to produce an explanation, he still repeated that if I was the cop, I wouldn't check him. I will put all the post where he attempt to explain it in spoiler. None of them makes sense. + Show Spoiler + On July 28 2015 04:20 n00bKing wrote: Children have wondrous imaginations, so use yours, and put yourself in the shoes of a Rels who is the Cop. Imagine you're the Cop, and during the Night Phase, you suggest who the Cop should target. Imagine you give only one name. Then imagine that you...go ahead and turn in a check on that name. Did you notice how your brain stopped you and said "No, no, that's stupid"? Okay then. On July 30 2015 02:45 n00bKing wrote: Because his suggestions to the Cop included only ONE name, and I was that name. This is common sense, ruXxar. You asked me earlier to talk to you like you were 5. If you were 5, I still expect you to understand why Rels the Cop has a 0% chance of turning in a check on me in Night 1. 0.00% On July 30 2015 04:09 n00bKing wrote: Of course it is. You don't have to like an explanation for it to be one. You don't have common sense? Okay. But the fact remains: 0.00% chance that Rels the Cop turns in a check on me. I'm not going to discuss this anymore. There is no chance in hell that check was ever going to happen, after what he posted. And no chance in hell that I (as Scum) could possibly fear it was going to happen, after what he posted. Rels being roleblocked is potent proof that I am Town. Admitting I could check him if I was the cop is admitting the possibility I was roleblocked because noobking is mafia. Mafia!noobking would arguee it is not possible to eliminate that possibility of him being mafia. 3 - noobking defended TikTock too hard He townread TT 100% (but still call him dumb, another attack on credibility). But he waited until 25 minutes before deadline to post his townshield post. And 12 minutes before deadline, he still advocated a lynch on scott (un-cc cop) over TT. When asked why, he said "I know TikTock is town" and "scott's claim is illogical". See spoiler. + Show Spoiler + On July 29 2015 06:48 n00bKing wrote: Would not be happy about lynching Scott without a CC, but...might still do it, to save Ticktock. On July 29 2015 06:58 n00bKing wrote: Because Scott's Cop claim is illogical, and I know Ticktock is Town. Only scum would *know* TicTock is 100% townie. Only scum would want to lynch an un-cc cop over him. Mafia!noobking would over-defend 100%-will-be-lynched TicTock to gain town cred. 4 - MoosyDoosy claims noobking knew that scott was cop D2; noobking didn't comment on that noobking commented on a lot of little things, correcting use certain words, and was generally nitpicky about stuff. Moosy posted that noobking knew that scott was cop during D2. That is absolutely not true, see point 3. When asked about that Moosy post, noobking didn't comment on that even though that concerns him directly. + Show Spoiler + On July 30 2015 05:47 MoosyDoosy wrote: This won't make a difference because you'll use some form of confirmation bias but I'll give it a shot. n00bKing has been widely regarded as town until you two started piling shit on him after D2. No cop would and should waste a check on n00bKing because he is town. Also, it was able to be deduced that scott was cop for reasons that I stated before. n00bKing obviously didn't want to disclose this information so that Mafia would figure it out and he IN FACT warned me when I posted my reasoning for why scott should be town. However this ended up not mattering because Damdred made everyone pile votes on scott which made him role claim. ...Is that simple enough? On July 30 2015 06:53 n00bKing wrote: Not impressed. He doesn't even touch on the common sense truth that the reason we know Rels the Cop would never turn in a check on me on Night 1 is because he said that's exactly what he would do if he was the Cop, and gave no alternate suggestions. I have never seen an investigative role do something like that. I WILL never see an investigative role do something like that. If Rels is the Cop, I'm not getting checked on Night 1. PERIOD. The only explanation to this is that noobking and Moosy are scum together. town!noobking would never let that pass. mafia!noobking would probably attack town!Moosy for this lie about him. 5 - noobking uses ad hom and attacks the credibility of other players This creates a bad town atmosphere of suspicions. + Show Spoiler + On July 26 2015 11:06 n00bKing wrote: Fuck Rels. :D On July 26 2015 11:33 n00bKing wrote: But the content of Rels' posts is still just as terrible, and his version of events during our prior discussions is still just as difficult for me to believe. On July 26 2015 10:57 n00bKing wrote: Rels does not belong in that group because he doesn't use any of the clear and specific reasoning seen from the other people in the group. His vote just sorta...ends up there. On July 27 2015 03:29 n00bKing wrote: So either he is a Townie that is a terrible teammate, and due to his pride and ego, refused to admit to a mistake that he had made, and instead lied about it so he wouldn't look bad...or...he is Scum. On July 27 2015 17:31 n00bKing wrote: I already upgraded him from Town to DumbTown. If Ticktock is Scum, I'll eat my hat. On July 29 2015 06:43 n00bKing wrote: I never once hinted at the idea that I was the Cop. I shall call you ruXxar Jr. On July 29 2015 06:57 n00bKing wrote: But hey, since Rels has turned stupid again... ##Unvote: ##Vote: Rels Fuck Rels. :D On July 30 2015 03:41 n00bKing wrote: Because see, this is what a TOWN player does when they turn out to be mistaken about something. As opposed to covering it up with a lie, and then standing by that lie for the entire rest of the game, like someone else we know. On July 30 2015 04:22 n00bKing wrote: Remember when I said I wanted you to play in my 4th Newbie game, so my mind could be blown by the notion that someone who plays like you do could be listed as a "veteran" player? I changed my mind. Please do not participate in my 4th Newbie game. On July 30 2015 04:42 n00bKing wrote: lol, jesus, are there ANY players in this game that are NOT willing to tell blatant lies just to try and make their (mistaken) point? It was NOT 10 minutes before the deadline, it was 25 minutes before the deadline. Which was more than adequate, as nearly everyone was here to read it, digest it, and make a judgment. On July 30 2015 07:11 n00bKing wrote: Hey, not as many dufuses survived as I expected! I expect there are still plenty of them left, though, to get this mislynch accomplished! Mafia!noobking would do that to create a bad town atmosphere. Conclusion n00bKing is mafia. In regard to point 4, MoosyDoosy has a good chance to be his partner. | ||
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MoosyDoosy
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