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On July 28 2015 22:50 MoosyDoosy wrote:Show nested quote +On July 28 2015 22:37 Breshke wrote:On July 28 2015 22:26 MoosyDoosy wrote:On July 28 2015 22:17 Breshke wrote:On July 28 2015 21:57 MoosyDoosy wrote:On July 28 2015 21:56 Breshke wrote:On July 28 2015 21:20 ruXxar wrote:
Ok here's a thought, the mafia team has to be fairly dumb.
I know I was advocating mafia splitting RB and NK, but that was before I was fully aware that RBs are notified.
In what world would scum be handing out confirmed towns?
It's really dumb.
Especially when they give confirmed town to someone that was suspected by other people.
Why give rels confirmed town status when n00bking was up his ass so to speak.
#1) mafia team are dumb. When I think about it n00b was right in that it's unlikely rels is cop since he's telling the cop who to check. Why role block rels of all people? It makes no sense.
Giving away confirmed townies are really really bad.
#2) mafia want to make n00bking look bad for pushing on confirmed town.
#3) n00bking wanted to look townie by explaining away some wifom logic of why he wouldn't rb rels.
#4) mafia are genius: rels is mafia and they didn't role-block anyone.
Rels claims being role blocked to get confirmed town status.
This is insane next level play. If this is true I want to give mega props to scum team.
Fuck n00bking can't be mafia anymore I think.
I think n00bking would make play #4 and claim being role blocked. I could be wrong but im fairly sure you HAVE TO roleblock someone like you can't abstain. Also theyn wouldnt have known they were handing out a confirmed town because they obviously didn't think rayn was the vet. Which is why you role block the someone you kill since Mafia knows the set up. Lol, everyone seems to have gotten this except for you Breshke...similar to how Mafia messed up their RB.... You literally havnt read my posts have you On July 28 2015 20:23 Breshke wrote:I want to lynch moosey for saying "I am mafia" to dodge answering questions. It is possible he is bad town and doing this but more probable he is mafia purely just trying to dodge questions. He also changes his story that he was pressuring me about my case on ruxxar and then at other points says he was talking to me about it because i needed to explain it more. On July 24 2015 10:15 MoosyDoosy wrote:On July 24 2015 10:07 Breshke wrote:On July 24 2015 09:53 Damdred wrote:Initial reads before anything else happens Disinformation and Ruxxor are obviously town to me atm, this is subject to change but tone wise and frequency of posting so far lead me in the general direction of duh they are town. And then my first weird feeling came from this post. On July 24 2015 09:08 Barakos wrote:On July 24 2015 08:47 disformation wrote:[quote] Fair enough.  Might still take a look later on in the game. *shrugs* Might depend on how much of an easy/hard time I have reading you later I guess. So far only 4/13 players have posted. Bit of shame. Might go to bed soonish since I am having a bit of a headache. -.- Yeah... weather here in germany sucks... I've been feeling like shit the whole day... And then I come to reread and ruxxars style just gives me more headaches. -.- Dunno, what to make of it atm, last time someone used poetry in a game it confused the hell out of me and 2 of the 3 reads I got from it were utter bullshit, so for now, I'll not jump to any conclusions about ruxxar, based on that style, but would really appreciate it, if this changes sometime soon... Kinda strongly dislike rayn for coming in and making an alibi-post, that kinda reads like he won't be here for the rest of the dayphase... let's just hope, that's not the case and there will be more posts from him. Nocturne coming in and asking lots of questions seems kinda active. But a lot of his posts/ questions are targetet at other peoples opinion about the alignment of person x/y/z, without actually giving his own thoughts... Disformation - several posts... mostly about ruxxars other games and the difference in tone, also the only one, who openly likes ruxxars style... What I don't like, is that he defends the "bullshitting" in the start of the game. Granted, it's hard to start a conversation early on and you kind of have to do something, to get the thread going, (and you kinda have to give ruxxar credit for this - he created something, people can talk about) but encouraging him to keep this up the whole game seems kinda off to me. Noobking - totally top town for being able to count, how many people have posted, just to correct disformation! This post just smells off to me, it seems like a lot of information doesn't say a lot doesn't draw many conclussions and gives the thought of doing a lot of things while doing nothing at the same time. Giving him a scum lean even this early Breshke is also a bit odd so far, the questions without other opinions just strikes me a bit funny. Ehh my question to barakos was just making sure he wasnt trying to say rayns thing was scummy. The ruxxar one I am still kind of waiting for a reply. So it starts with this On July 24 2015 07:40 ruXxar wrote:On July 24 2015 07:36 n00bKing wrote:I'll keep posting this at the start of each game, until people actually start following it. From the General Guide on how to play: Don’t babble. If you speak without having a clear goal in mind, you impede the town and decrease everyone else’s productivity. This paralyzes town analysis and decision-making and allows mafia to hide in the chaos Not totally sure that ruXxar is in violation yet. But...it kinda seems like it. He knows that some of us have seen him play as both allegiances already, so I'm not a fan of him making this wild change in his posting style. It could serve as a decent smokescreen. Ah, but my goal is clear and simple. Discussion must flow for alignments to be revealed. When making unorthodox comments you gain traction and arouse thoughts. Am I scum, am I town? As you judge me, I judge you. A dead thread benefits no one. Let your thoughts flow unfiltered and you have nothing to fear. The ye olde play of ill do weird shit to get people to talk about my weird shit then get reads off said people. Except noobking (in a roundabout way but still fairly obvious) that this could be a decent smokescreen for ruxxar infering that he thinks ruxxar is doing this as scum. So ruxxar got what he wanted and someone is talking about his stuff yet when asked to give a read on noobking he dodges it. On July 24 2015 07:54 ruXxar wrote:On July 24 2015 07:41 NocturneMage wrote:On July 24 2015 07:24 disformation wrote:
Hm I would read ruxxars posts so far as NAI.
Not alignment indicative. The poetry stuff could have been preplanned. The tone is all fluff. *shrugs*
But then again, breaking the ice on D1 is kinda hard. xD It would seem like it. I don't know if I should make anything the way he's addressing people, ignoring his poetry, that could come from town or mafia. I'm assuming no ill-will means a town read? or a null read? I can't tell actually. ruxxar is that even a read on noobking? A read from a sentence? What do I analyze, the tone, the cadence, the befriending emoticon? The timing, his motivation, his meta? A sentence says so little yet says so much if you but know what to look for. I will not pass judgement on n00b yet, but you nocturne, you have showed your true colors. The natural curiosity, the spontaneous doubt, your inquisitive nature and your non-hesitation to share with us of your life. I read you clear as a book. Your alignment is town. While saying that there is not enough to read noob off of yet is a fair point. Yet doing the play where he makes weird posts at the start of the game i expect ruxxar to peruse those reads and he doesn't do this with noobking. His only other post directed towards noobking are complaining that he can not read him. I don't see evidence of him trying to work out noobkings alignment from reactions to his openings or other means which I feel is contradictory to the first post i quoted. I think ruxxar is scum Also i would like to add that i think noobkings smokescreen post was really townie because it showed paranoia to me which i feel like is hard to fake as mafia. Ooooh boy this post. This post this post this post. You might be onto something here Damdred. That post is still really weird, it took him far too long to explain it. Also him calling ruxxar bad and shitting on him for not giving reads and then he doesnt even end up voting doesn't add up. I still think flexes/scott can still be mafia, rayns thing still holds weight even though the guy replaced out like he still said he was halfway trhough something and he doesnt post it before he tells the mod he has to replace out? I don't really believe it but im less sure of this now than I am of moosey. I don't think sulf is as townie as i did before because it took him so long to explain his reads from his POE, i thought if he was sure enough to post his auto list he would be able to rattle off his reasons fairly quickly. I still have him as a town lean though. Also this is wifom as fuck but if i was scum there is no way that i don't roleblock and shoot rayn if i know there is a vet, you don't risk it especially when you are already behind and then if rayn isnt vet one of the scummers can claim roleblocked. This is also a reason as to why I am less paranoid about damdred because i feel like he would have done this as well.It makes me feel a bit weird that the scumteam im suggesting would have all not voted D1 but EHH im really liking everyone on the barakos wagon except maybe disinfo who i probably have to look into but iirc rayn liked him so it isn't that necessary. I have and I see you providing a view from Mafia standpoint which is never a good thing unless you're ruXxar. Moosey iw ant you to udnerstand this. You said I didn't understand why mafia should have roleblocked their own kill. Yet i had already explained that situation and why I would have donee xactly that. So no you arn't reading my posts and you are mafia. Maybe you should ask ruxxar how to improve your scum game he won his last two. Then maybe you should learn how to read alignments. Because you’re on the wrong track right now.
Shame,
I very likely be here before deadline bye.
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On July 28 2015 22:50 MoosyDoosy wrote:Show nested quote +On July 28 2015 22:37 Breshke wrote:On July 28 2015 22:26 MoosyDoosy wrote:On July 28 2015 22:17 Breshke wrote:On July 28 2015 21:57 MoosyDoosy wrote:On July 28 2015 21:56 Breshke wrote:On July 28 2015 21:20 ruXxar wrote:
Ok here's a thought, the mafia team has to be fairly dumb.
I know I was advocating mafia splitting RB and NK, but that was before I was fully aware that RBs are notified.
In what world would scum be handing out confirmed towns?
It's really dumb.
Especially when they give confirmed town to someone that was suspected by other people.
Why give rels confirmed town status when n00bking was up his ass so to speak.
#1) mafia team are dumb. When I think about it n00b was right in that it's unlikely rels is cop since he's telling the cop who to check. Why role block rels of all people? It makes no sense.
Giving away confirmed townies are really really bad.
#2) mafia want to make n00bking look bad for pushing on confirmed town.
#3) n00bking wanted to look townie by explaining away some wifom logic of why he wouldn't rb rels.
#4) mafia are genius: rels is mafia and they didn't role-block anyone.
Rels claims being role blocked to get confirmed town status.
This is insane next level play. If this is true I want to give mega props to scum team.
Fuck n00bking can't be mafia anymore I think.
I think n00bking would make play #4 and claim being role blocked. I could be wrong but im fairly sure you HAVE TO roleblock someone like you can't abstain. Also theyn wouldnt have known they were handing out a confirmed town because they obviously didn't think rayn was the vet. Which is why you role block the someone you kill since Mafia knows the set up. Lol, everyone seems to have gotten this except for you Breshke...similar to how Mafia messed up their RB.... You literally havnt read my posts have you On July 28 2015 20:23 Breshke wrote:I want to lynch moosey for saying "I am mafia" to dodge answering questions. It is possible he is bad town and doing this but more probable he is mafia purely just trying to dodge questions. He also changes his story that he was pressuring me about my case on ruxxar and then at other points says he was talking to me about it because i needed to explain it more. On July 24 2015 10:15 MoosyDoosy wrote:On July 24 2015 10:07 Breshke wrote:On July 24 2015 09:53 Damdred wrote:Initial reads before anything else happens Disinformation and Ruxxor are obviously town to me atm, this is subject to change but tone wise and frequency of posting so far lead me in the general direction of duh they are town. And then my first weird feeling came from this post. On July 24 2015 09:08 Barakos wrote:On July 24 2015 08:47 disformation wrote:[quote] Fair enough. Might still take a look later on in the game. *shrugs* Might depend on how much of an easy/hard time I have reading you later I guess. So far only 4/13 players have posted. Bit of shame. Might go to bed soonish since I am having a bit of a headache. -.- Yeah... weather here in germany sucks... I've been feeling like shit the whole day... And then I come to reread and ruxxars style just gives me more headaches. -.- Dunno, what to make of it atm, last time someone used poetry in a game it confused the hell out of me and 2 of the 3 reads I got from it were utter bullshit, so for now, I'll not jump to any conclusions about ruxxar, based on that style, but would really appreciate it, if this changes sometime soon... Kinda strongly dislike rayn for coming in and making an alibi-post, that kinda reads like he won't be here for the rest of the dayphase... let's just hope, that's not the case and there will be more posts from him. Nocturne coming in and asking lots of questions seems kinda active. But a lot of his posts/ questions are targetet at other peoples opinion about the alignment of person x/y/z, without actually giving his own thoughts... Disformation - several posts... mostly about ruxxars other games and the difference in tone, also the only one, who openly likes ruxxars style... What I don't like, is that he defends the "bullshitting" in the start of the game. Granted, it's hard to start a conversation early on and you kind of have to do something, to get the thread going, (and you kinda have to give ruxxar credit for this - he created something, people can talk about) but encouraging him to keep this up the whole game seems kinda off to me. Noobking - totally top town for being able to count, how many people have posted, just to correct disformation! This post just smells off to me, it seems like a lot of information doesn't say a lot doesn't draw many conclussions and gives the thought of doing a lot of things while doing nothing at the same time. Giving him a scum lean even this early Breshke is also a bit odd so far, the questions without other opinions just strikes me a bit funny. Ehh my question to barakos was just making sure he wasnt trying to say rayns thing was scummy. The ruxxar one I am still kind of waiting for a reply. So it starts with this On July 24 2015 07:40 ruXxar wrote:On July 24 2015 07:36 n00bKing wrote:I'll keep posting this at the start of each game, until people actually start following it. From the General Guide on how to play: Don’t babble. If you speak without having a clear goal in mind, you impede the town and decrease everyone else’s productivity. This paralyzes town analysis and decision-making and allows mafia to hide in the chaos Not totally sure that ruXxar is in violation yet. But...it kinda seems like it. He knows that some of us have seen him play as both allegiances already, so I'm not a fan of him making this wild change in his posting style. It could serve as a decent smokescreen. Ah, but my goal is clear and simple. Discussion must flow for alignments to be revealed. When making unorthodox comments you gain traction and arouse thoughts. Am I scum, am I town? As you judge me, I judge you. A dead thread benefits no one. Let your thoughts flow unfiltered and you have nothing to fear. The ye olde play of ill do weird shit to get people to talk about my weird shit then get reads off said people. Except noobking (in a roundabout way but still fairly obvious) that this could be a decent smokescreen for ruxxar infering that he thinks ruxxar is doing this as scum. So ruxxar got what he wanted and someone is talking about his stuff yet when asked to give a read on noobking he dodges it. On July 24 2015 07:54 ruXxar wrote:On July 24 2015 07:41 NocturneMage wrote:On July 24 2015 07:24 disformation wrote:
Hm I would read ruxxars posts so far as NAI.
Not alignment indicative. The poetry stuff could have been preplanned. The tone is all fluff. *shrugs*
But then again, breaking the ice on D1 is kinda hard. xD It would seem like it. I don't know if I should make anything the way he's addressing people, ignoring his poetry, that could come from town or mafia. I'm assuming no ill-will means a town read? or a null read? I can't tell actually. ruxxar is that even a read on noobking? A read from a sentence? What do I analyze, the tone, the cadence, the befriending emoticon? The timing, his motivation, his meta? A sentence says so little yet says so much if you but know what to look for. I will not pass judgement on n00b yet, but you nocturne, you have showed your true colors. The natural curiosity, the spontaneous doubt, your inquisitive nature and your non-hesitation to share with us of your life. I read you clear as a book. Your alignment is town. While saying that there is not enough to read noob off of yet is a fair point. Yet doing the play where he makes weird posts at the start of the game i expect ruxxar to peruse those reads and he doesn't do this with noobking. His only other post directed towards noobking are complaining that he can not read him. I don't see evidence of him trying to work out noobkings alignment from reactions to his openings or other means which I feel is contradictory to the first post i quoted. I think ruxxar is scum Also i would like to add that i think noobkings smokescreen post was really townie because it showed paranoia to me which i feel like is hard to fake as mafia. Ooooh boy this post. This post this post this post. You might be onto something here Damdred. That post is still really weird, it took him far too long to explain it. Also him calling ruxxar bad and shitting on him for not giving reads and then he doesnt even end up voting doesn't add up. I still think flexes/scott can still be mafia, rayns thing still holds weight even though the guy replaced out like he still said he was halfway trhough something and he doesnt post it before he tells the mod he has to replace out? I don't really believe it but im less sure of this now than I am of moosey. I don't think sulf is as townie as i did before because it took him so long to explain his reads from his POE, i thought if he was sure enough to post his auto list he would be able to rattle off his reasons fairly quickly. I still have him as a town lean though. Also this is wifom as fuck but if i was scum there is no way that i don't roleblock and shoot rayn if i know there is a vet, you don't risk it especially when you are already behind and then if rayn isnt vet one of the scummers can claim roleblocked. This is also a reason as to why I am less paranoid about damdred because i feel like he would have done this as well.It makes me feel a bit weird that the scumteam im suggesting would have all not voted D1 but EHH im really liking everyone on the barakos wagon except maybe disinfo who i probably have to look into but iirc rayn liked him so it isn't that necessary. I have and I see you providing a view from Mafia standpoint which is never a good thing unless you're ruXxar. Moosey iw ant you to udnerstand this. You said I didn't understand why mafia should have roleblocked their own kill. Yet i had already explained that situation and why I would have donee xactly that. So no you arn't reading my posts and you are mafia. Maybe you should ask ruxxar how to improve your scum game he won his last two. Then maybe you should learn how to read alignments. Because you’re on the wrong track right now.
Also this is nosey talking to me like he thinks I'm town.
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TT is third on the list mainly because of POE.
Even if I am wrong about the RB who cares the world I was trying to discredit where they didn't RB is still wrong because they don't not RB if they want to claim RB themselves they RB their kill.
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Okay I'll be back in like two hours
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Can't sleep
Yeah would prefer if the confirmed were on this wagon aswell
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People need to relax this is a newbie gAme without a CC it is possible flexes lied AS TOWN and had nothing when he said he was writing his opinions on people and actually did return during the night.
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Damdred shh
What if moosey was playing scummy as shit to get checked because he is the GF
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On July 29 2015 09:13 disformation wrote:
So Breshke I have a hard time getting where your reads are currently.
Your #1 scum is still MoosyDoosy even with green check?
Your #2 scum was Flexes/Scott? You never really said so, but it is implied in your filter. What do you think of the claim?
Your #3 scum was TT.
Any scum reads other than these 3 now that TT has flipped town?
Any insights into some townreads other than the usual suspects/reasons?
Yes the greencheack doesn't change my read on moosey.
Scott is uncc'd cop, it will work itself out but he is very likely the cop.
TT was POE because i was looking outside the list of people that voted on bara. The only people left from that list are
Scott - Cop
Moosey - Scum
and ruxxar who i think is town. I see moosey says i flipped my read on ruxxar to match thread sentiment not really sure where he is getting that from?? I gave my reasons for flipping me read on ruxxar then there is also posts like this
On July 29 2015 02:46 ruXxar wrote:
Just a quick shout out.
My tinfoil hat senses are tingling.
If we have a medic I think they should out so we can lynch confirmed town rayn.
If medic doesn't claim today I will consider rayn 100% town for the rest of the game.
I just find that this would be so out there for scum to even be thinking about when they KNOW there was a veteran. I don't think scum ruxxar posts this.
Onto moosey.
On July 29 2015 10:16 MoosyDoosy wrote:
smh this Day ruined my fucking mood. Tictock was such a townie I don't know how anyone saw otherwise. scott is still suspicious af, ruXxar is 9000+ town because he's still spewing garbage, Breshke needs to give a fuck, rayn needs a slap in the face, disinformation needs to help me out here because he's the only one making sense to me rite now.
This post is fake. Apprently he cared about the lynch but go back and look at his filter around that time or read EOD (im not going to quotee stuff because you need to see it in context.) Moosey did nothing to push the lynch either way. He was just in the thread.
On July 29 2015 05:37 MoosyDoosy wrote:
Tictock or Mage? I've been reading Mage as mostly townie until this most recent post so I'm still not sure.
So he was so sure TT was town yet he still couldn't pick one way or the other. Like it just comes across as total bullshit.
On July 29 2015 10:38 MoosyDoosy wrote:Show nested quote +On July 29 2015 10:28 disformation wrote:On July 29 2015 10:23 MoosyDoosy wrote:
I made this looong post where I drew up lists from all the voting times, people on me and other townies, my blanket list from earlier, and Damdred's thoughts that we shouldn't lynch people on the Barakos wagon. The list of people I was left with was Tictock/Breshke/scott/Sulf/ruXxar/Mage.
I read Tictock as town, scott claimed, ruXxar is 9000+ town, leaving us Breshke/Sulf/Mage.
I can post the post which I made before everyone started flip flopping through votes like fish if you guys want to see it but I decided not to post it and see how things turned out. Either way, it looks like the list is still good to go and my thoughts were only further confirmed by this mislynch. got ninjaed. Yeah, breshke super shady right now.. all the PoE's lead to Mage somehow. Kinda waffly about Sulf atm. Seeing as how Tictock was VT and no one stepped forward against scott's claim, we're forced to believe him although I still find him suspicious. Breshke is very strange. His play is centered around forcing mislynches on people that do "weird shit". If I guessed his list it would be something like Barakos/MoosyDoosy/Tictock/ruXxar because Barakos was scum and the rest of us 3 did weird things. The only reason why he eventually moved off ruXxar was due to thread sentiment and he's still focused on me because some people's suspicion on me hasn't completely cleared away (l0l ruXxar). His continuous posts have only twisted my null read on him into a scum direction as well.
Then there's Sulfurus. I am very waffly about Sulf too because his play is nothing like when he was Mafia in the games he rolled Godfather twice but his posts are still strange. First of all, his overconfident play clashes terribly with his wrong list and I find it strange that he says that "Moosy still has to die before the game is over." So he's a null. As for Mage. I think this might be the next lynch. He comes a bit too late to wagons, follows thread sentiments, and I have a feeling he's been trying to pocket certain players (me for example). His reads are also a bit too confident like he already knows alignments. This is a fair lynch. As a note, my stance on him did change a bit suddenly due to his post near the end of D2 where Damdred seemed to have gotten the same vibe. So he's a scum lean. These are my thoughts.
Also the bolded makes little sence to me if anyone wants to try explain it. So he guesses who my scumlist is based on people who have been doing weird shit but he knows i townread ruxxar so why does he add him into the list anyway?
This think is all over the place but honestly look at mooseys reaction to the lynch and then what he was doing prior to the lynch it does not match up and a green cheack honestly doesn't mean anything at this point.
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Moosey why did you vote Scott if you knew he was the cop?
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Also rels i don't think you should be using the fact that some people unvoted scott straight after his cop claim to make them more townie. I don't really think that logic holds up.
I think a noobking + moosey scumteam makes sense until this "RB on Rels stuff" because mooseys answer was fairly different to what noobking was trying to say and you would think if they were scum partners with a QT they would have discussed in there what moosey should have replied with. Kinda don't want to go into this more until moosey flips though.
The only other person i think can be scum is NM really. Damdred has a good case on him like the fact that one of his top scumeads voted a wagon and basically sent it into majority should have gave him pause.
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On July 30 2015 11:07 MoosyDoosy wrote:Show nested quote +On July 30 2015 10:40 Breshke wrote:
Moosey why did you vote Scott if you knew he was the cop? I didn't know he was cop I suspected he was PR. Show nested quote +On July 28 2015 12:50 MoosyDoosy wrote:Why is it such a bad idea to lynch people that were on the Barakos wagon? If we look at the people who didn't, there's Tictock, ruXxar, me, and Flexes.
I'm town, ruXxar's town, I think Tictock's town. This basically leaves us just scott. But as someone pointed out, rayn's claim as Veteran leaves us with a Vigi. Which means we either have a dumb Vigi who didn't shoot N1 or scott as Vigi which makes me reluctant to lynch him because of this fact.
I just don't think that not lynching people on the Barakos wagon is a good idea. But I trusted Damdred and I felt that he knew what he was doing. Show nested quote +On July 29 2015 04:20 MoosyDoosy wrote:
I'll trust you Damdred...
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##Vote scott31337 As you can see here. But I also explained it if you were reading Breshke. I'm not surprised you didn't though. Here you go. Show nested quote +On July 29 2015 04:41 MoosyDoosy wrote:
*shrugs* For me this is a good test to sniff out alignments through reactions of all parties involved. To be truthful I was reluctant to switch and with this quick change in voting, things do seem a bit off. But I think this lynch will at least give us a ton of info. And I was right that it gave us "a ton of info".
So the three people that were being considered up for lynch were, Ticktock (hard townread) Scott ( PR read), and NM
On July 29 2015 05:37 MoosyDoosy wrote:
Tictock or Mage? I've been reading Mage as mostly townie until this most recent post so I'm still not sure.
Explain this post? Why not just push for the NM lynch. This post is actually bullshit aswell because a quick search through your filter for mage and you were calling for vigi shots on mage and had him as one of your possible scum a fair bit.
This actually makes me think the team is exactly moosey and mage because he should have been going hard for a mage lynch when he townread/pr read both the other wagons yet he just sat in the thread sheeping others and is now calling everyone stupid today.
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On July 30 2015 11:23 MoosyDoosy wrote:Show nested quote +On July 30 2015 11:16 Breshke wrote:On July 30 2015 11:07 MoosyDoosy wrote:On July 30 2015 10:40 Breshke wrote:
Moosey why did you vote Scott if you knew he was the cop? I didn't know he was cop I suspected he was PR. On July 28 2015 12:50 MoosyDoosy wrote:Why is it such a bad idea to lynch people that were on the Barakos wagon? If we look at the people who didn't, there's Tictock, ruXxar, me, and Flexes.
I'm town, ruXxar's town, I think Tictock's town. This basically leaves us just scott. But as someone pointed out, rayn's claim as Veteran leaves us with a Vigi. Which means we either have a dumb Vigi who didn't shoot N1 or scott as Vigi which makes me reluctant to lynch him because of this fact.
I just don't think that not lynching people on the Barakos wagon is a good idea. But I trusted Damdred and I felt that he knew what he was doing. On July 29 2015 04:20 MoosyDoosy wrote:
I'll trust you Damdred...
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##Vote scott31337 As you can see here. But I also explained it if you were reading Breshke. I'm not surprised you didn't though. Here you go. On July 29 2015 04:41 MoosyDoosy wrote:
*shrugs* For me this is a good test to sniff out alignments through reactions of all parties involved. To be truthful I was reluctant to switch and with this quick change in voting, things do seem a bit off. But I think this lynch will at least give us a ton of info. And I was right that it gave us "a ton of info". So the three people that were being considered up for lynch were, Ticktock (hard townread) Scott ( PR read), and NM On July 29 2015 05:37 MoosyDoosy wrote:
Tictock or Mage? I've been reading Mage as mostly townie until this most recent post so I'm still not sure. Explain this post? Why not just push for the NM lynch. This post is actually bullshit aswell because a quick search through your filter for mage and you were calling for vigi shots on mage and had him as one of your possible scum a fair bit. This actually makes me think the team is exactly moosey and mage because he should have been going hard for a mage lynch when he townread/pr read both the other wagons yet he just sat in the thread sheeping others and is now calling everyone stupid today. I was not calling for vigi shots on Mage. I was calling for vigi shots on Flexes/scott and Sulf for inactivity. I also really didn't have Mage as possible scum until his post at EoD. There's a reason why in your last quote I say "until this most recent post (of his)".
On July 27 2015 04:54 MoosyDoosy wrote:Show nested quote +On July 27 2015 04:48 raynpelikoneet wrote:On July 27 2015 04:47 MoosyDoosy wrote:On July 27 2015 04:38 raynpelikoneet wrote:
I don't think your "i think Sulfurus is the GF" is a valid point. It’s a joke. Sulfurus got Mafia Godfather for two games in a row before this. It would be pretty cool if this is his third time. I’m tempted to lynch him just to see. How about you lynch mafia instead? Like it's really cool when you play a perfect game and lynch mafia every day, i don't want to ruin it just because people are being lazy. I have never played a perfect game of Mafia before. And I’ve already given my thoughts. Mafia is definitely amongst Tictock/Breshke/NocturneMage/Flexes/Sulfurus unless I got fooled hard somewhere. I’m just waiting until night is over before re-reading filters from these people.
Ignore the vigi shot thing i cant read you were saying he could be the vigi.
I just don't buy that you PR read scott and didnt bring it up initially for obvious reasons yet when he is about to get lynched you just blindly sheep damdred instead of bringing it up. You arn't that bad. Like what if scott never came back you would have just lynched a PR?
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On July 30 2015 12:16 MoosyDoosy wrote:Show nested quote +On July 30 2015 11:28 Breshke wrote:On July 30 2015 11:23 MoosyDoosy wrote:On July 30 2015 11:16 Breshke wrote:On July 30 2015 11:07 MoosyDoosy wrote:On July 30 2015 10:40 Breshke wrote:
Moosey why did you vote Scott if you knew he was the cop? I didn't know he was cop I suspected he was PR. On July 28 2015 12:50 MoosyDoosy wrote:Why is it such a bad idea to lynch people that were on the Barakos wagon? If we look at the people who didn't, there's Tictock, ruXxar, me, and Flexes.
I'm town, ruXxar's town, I think Tictock's town. This basically leaves us just scott. But as someone pointed out, rayn's claim as Veteran leaves us with a Vigi. Which means we either have a dumb Vigi who didn't shoot N1 or scott as Vigi which makes me reluctant to lynch him because of this fact.
I just don't think that not lynching people on the Barakos wagon is a good idea. But I trusted Damdred and I felt that he knew what he was doing. On July 29 2015 04:20 MoosyDoosy wrote:
I'll trust you Damdred...
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##Vote scott31337 As you can see here. But I also explained it if you were reading Breshke. I'm not surprised you didn't though. Here you go. On July 29 2015 04:41 MoosyDoosy wrote:
*shrugs* For me this is a good test to sniff out alignments through reactions of all parties involved. To be truthful I was reluctant to switch and with this quick change in voting, things do seem a bit off. But I think this lynch will at least give us a ton of info. And I was right that it gave us "a ton of info". So the three people that were being considered up for lynch were, Ticktock (hard townread) Scott ( PR read), and NM On July 29 2015 05:37 MoosyDoosy wrote:
Tictock or Mage? I've been reading Mage as mostly townie until this most recent post so I'm still not sure. Explain this post? Why not just push for the NM lynch. This post is actually bullshit aswell because a quick search through your filter for mage and you were calling for vigi shots on mage and had him as one of your possible scum a fair bit. This actually makes me think the team is exactly moosey and mage because he should have been going hard for a mage lynch when he townread/pr read both the other wagons yet he just sat in the thread sheeping others and is now calling everyone stupid today. I was not calling for vigi shots on Mage. I was calling for vigi shots on Flexes/scott and Sulf for inactivity. I also really didn't have Mage as possible scum until his post at EoD. There's a reason why in your last quote I say "until this most recent post (of his)". On July 27 2015 04:54 MoosyDoosy wrote:On July 27 2015 04:48 raynpelikoneet wrote:On July 27 2015 04:47 MoosyDoosy wrote:On July 27 2015 04:38 raynpelikoneet wrote:
I don't think your "i think Sulfurus is the GF" is a valid point. It’s a joke. Sulfurus got Mafia Godfather for two games in a row before this. It would be pretty cool if this is his third time. I’m tempted to lynch him just to see. How about you lynch mafia instead? Like it's really cool when you play a perfect game and lynch mafia every day, i don't want to ruin it just because people are being lazy. I have never played a perfect game of Mafia before. And I’ve already given my thoughts. Mafia is definitely amongst Tictock/Breshke/NocturneMage/Flexes/Sulfurus unless I got fooled hard somewhere. I’m just waiting until night is over before re-reading filters from these people. Ignore the vigi shot thing i cant read you were saying he could be the vigi. I just don't buy that you PR read scott and didnt bring it up initially for obvious reasons yet when he is about to get lynched you just blindly sheep damdred instead of bringing it up. You arn't that bad. Like what if scott never came back you would have just lynched a PR? I trusted Damdred and my trust was well returned imo. I don't see what the problem exactly is here. And I didn't exactly see you around the lynch time either. In fact you haven't done much other than to drop by now and again to question me before leaving.
Im not saying I have been around if you wantto push me for that push me.
Why did you not mention that you very strongly thought scott was a PR when he was about to be lynched? Clearly damdred did not know this so why not tell him instead of blindly sheeping him.
You don't have tor espond to that moosey because I don't really see how you can explain it but basically your story does not check out at all.
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On July 30 2015 12:30 MoosyDoosy wrote:Show nested quote +On July 30 2015 12:27 Breshke wrote:On July 30 2015 12:16 MoosyDoosy wrote:On July 30 2015 11:28 Breshke wrote:On July 30 2015 11:23 MoosyDoosy wrote:On July 30 2015 11:16 Breshke wrote:On July 30 2015 11:07 MoosyDoosy wrote:On July 30 2015 10:40 Breshke wrote:
Moosey why did you vote Scott if you knew he was the cop? I didn't know he was cop I suspected he was PR. On July 28 2015 12:50 MoosyDoosy wrote:Why is it such a bad idea to lynch people that were on the Barakos wagon? If we look at the people who didn't, there's Tictock, ruXxar, me, and Flexes.
I'm town, ruXxar's town, I think Tictock's town. This basically leaves us just scott. But as someone pointed out, rayn's claim as Veteran leaves us with a Vigi. Which means we either have a dumb Vigi who didn't shoot N1 or scott as Vigi which makes me reluctant to lynch him because of this fact.
I just don't think that not lynching people on the Barakos wagon is a good idea. But I trusted Damdred and I felt that he knew what he was doing. On July 29 2015 04:20 MoosyDoosy wrote:
I'll trust you Damdred...
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##Vote scott31337 As you can see here. But I also explained it if you were reading Breshke. I'm not surprised you didn't though. Here you go. On July 29 2015 04:41 MoosyDoosy wrote:
*shrugs* For me this is a good test to sniff out alignments through reactions of all parties involved. To be truthful I was reluctant to switch and with this quick change in voting, things do seem a bit off. But I think this lynch will at least give us a ton of info. And I was right that it gave us "a ton of info". So the three people that were being considered up for lynch were, Ticktock (hard townread) Scott ( PR read), and NM On July 29 2015 05:37 MoosyDoosy wrote:
Tictock or Mage? I've been reading Mage as mostly townie until this most recent post so I'm still not sure. Explain this post? Why not just push for the NM lynch. This post is actually bullshit aswell because a quick search through your filter for mage and you were calling for vigi shots on mage and had him as one of your possible scum a fair bit. This actually makes me think the team is exactly moosey and mage because he should have been going hard for a mage lynch when he townread/pr read both the other wagons yet he just sat in the thread sheeping others and is now calling everyone stupid today. I was not calling for vigi shots on Mage. I was calling for vigi shots on Flexes/scott and Sulf for inactivity. I also really didn't have Mage as possible scum until his post at EoD. There's a reason why in your last quote I say "until this most recent post (of his)". On July 27 2015 04:54 MoosyDoosy wrote:On July 27 2015 04:48 raynpelikoneet wrote:On July 27 2015 04:47 MoosyDoosy wrote:On July 27 2015 04:38 raynpelikoneet wrote:
I don't think your "i think Sulfurus is the GF" is a valid point. It’s a joke. Sulfurus got Mafia Godfather for two games in a row before this. It would be pretty cool if this is his third time. I’m tempted to lynch him just to see. How about you lynch mafia instead? Like it's really cool when you play a perfect game and lynch mafia every day, i don't want to ruin it just because people are being lazy. I have never played a perfect game of Mafia before. And I’ve already given my thoughts. Mafia is definitely amongst Tictock/Breshke/NocturneMage/Flexes/Sulfurus unless I got fooled hard somewhere. I’m just waiting until night is over before re-reading filters from these people. Ignore the vigi shot thing i cant read you were saying he could be the vigi. I just don't buy that you PR read scott and didnt bring it up initially for obvious reasons yet when he is about to get lynched you just blindly sheep damdred instead of bringing it up. You arn't that bad. Like what if scott never came back you would have just lynched a PR? I trusted Damdred and my trust was well returned imo. I don't see what the problem exactly is here. And I didn't exactly see you around the lynch time either. In fact you haven't done much other than to drop by now and again to question me before leaving. Im not saying I have been around if you wantto push me for that push me. Why did you not mention that you very strongly thought scott was a PR when he was about to be lynched? Clearly damdred did not know this so why not tell him instead of blindly sheeping him. You don't have tor espond to that moosey because I don't really see how you can explain it but basically your story does not check out at all. Damdred would only not know that if he did the same thing as you and didn't read the thread. I stated that scott could be a PR and others such as Rels did so as well. So there is no reason for you not to have read it. I first thought that scott was PR from what someone (I believe Rels?) said.
No stop. You said that the reason you understood noobkings reasoning on why he wouldnt roleblock rels was because "SCOTT WAS THE COP"
On July 30 2015 05:47 MoosyDoosy wrote:Show nested quote +On July 30 2015 05:05 ruXxar wrote:On July 30 2015 05:03 MoosyDoosy wrote:On July 30 2015 05:00 ruXxar wrote:On July 30 2015 04:51 MoosyDoosy wrote:On July 30 2015 04:47 ruXxar wrote:On July 30 2015 04:42 MoosyDoosy wrote:On July 30 2015 04:40 ruXxar wrote:On July 30 2015 04:31 raynpelikoneet wrote:
he is obviously a smart guy.
he is not playing smart.
i cant explain it better. Exactly this. His push on rels was so bad I couldn't believe n00bking is doing this. BULLSHIT. Remember our first Mafia game together. LOL. THAT game was a prime example of n00bKing with his confirmation bias at work. However even if he's guilty of having confirmation bias your's is 100x worse. n00bking played a million times better in our last newbie game than he did this game imo. I could actually understand his logic that game. i gained tremendous respect for n00bking after that game even if he just lived for 1 day. This game he's literally throwing that image in the trash. I see the same things in both games. He has confirmation bias on a few people, is a bit overeager to pressure some over others, and his wordiness is kicking in when he's trying to explain something. It's just that your bias for Rels is kicking in and is shading n00bKing in a bad light while putting n00bKing in our first game into a better light. If you go back and read that game, you can see all the traits still carried over into this one. But then again you won't read it because you're dumb. And even if you DO read it, your confirmation bias will just kick in and refuse to accept that fact. How about you go on and explain n00bkings statement on rels which you apparently had no problem understanding. There's no point in answering you unless someone asks the same question. On July 27 2015 17:59 Rels wrote:On July 27 2015 17:57 n00bKing wrote:On July 27 2015 17:50 Rels wrote:On July 27 2015 17:47 n00bKing wrote:On July 27 2015 17:26 Rels wrote:
Wow this is ridiculous. That is WIFOM, not worse than WIFOM. Look at these possibility:
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noobking is a mafia (not GF). Rels said he was going to check noobking. The mafia team has to roleblock Rels to avoid a red check.
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Flexes is mafia. Rels said he was going to shoot Flexes. The mafia team has to roleblock Rels to avoir a mafia kill. Those are not reasonable "possibilities." If Flexes is Scum, and knows there is a Vigilante in the game, he can be very confident that he will not be shot by Rels (even on the off chance that Rels is that Vigilante, which is already unlikely for reasons that I can't explain without damaging the Town). If n00bKing is Scum, and knows there is a Cop in the game, he can be very confident that he will not be checked by Rels (even on the off chance that Rels is that Cop, which is already unlikely for reasons that I can't explain without damaging the Town). The second scenario is particularly ludicrous, because you're trying to tell me that after I spent Day 1 and Night 1 painting you as a suspect, I then up and ROLEBLOCKED you, in a game where there is a guaranteed Scum roleblocker but no possibility of a Town roleblocker. ??? I agree that if you are mafia, it's bad for you to roleblock me (or kill me). BUT if you know there is a cop in the setup, you have no choice but to do that. Bad situation but wifomable > red check. lol, NONSENSE. What didn't you understand about "If n00bKing is Scum, and knows there is a Cop in the game, he can be very confident that he will not be checked by Rels (even on the off chance that Rels is that Cop, which is already unlikely for reasons that I can't explain without damaging the Town)."? I don't understand. You are saying: - I'm probably not the cop - On the off-chance I'm the cop, I won't check you I don't understand why you are saying that. Especially the second part. How about now? This won't make a difference because you'll use some form of confirmation bias but I'll give it a shot. n00bKing has been widely regarded as town until you two started piling shit on him after D2. No cop would and should waste a check on n00bKing because he is town. Also, it was able to be deduced that scott was cop for reasons that I stated before. n00bKing obviously didn't want to disclose this information so that Mafia would figure it out and he IN FACT warned me when I posted my reasoning for why scott should be town. However this ended up not mattering because Damdred made everyone pile votes on scott which made him role claim. ...Is that simple enough?
Stop trying to play it down now and say that you thought "scott could be a PR". You said you understood noobkings logic because you were able to deduce that scott was the cop. YET you still voted on "sheeping damdred" yet didnt mention the fact that you knew he "was the cop" when you did so.
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Also im not trying to push tmi you saying you knew scott was the cop I understand that you probably meant you knew scott was a PR
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On July 30 2015 13:03 MoosyDoosy wrote:Show nested quote +On July 30 2015 12:41 Breshke wrote:
Also im not trying to push tmi you saying you knew scott was the cop I understand that you probably meant you knew scott was a PR ...I actually said that we had a vigi. I never said anything about a cop... ... this is the 3rd time....
3 posts up i quoted a post where you said you knew scott was cop but if thats what you got from this well done.
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Moosey i honestly don't care if you thought there was a vigi or a cop like I said im not pushing this because its dumb and you trying to say it's a reason for you to be town is laughable.
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On July 30 2015 13:09 MoosyDoosy wrote:Show nested quote +On July 30 2015 13:08 Breshke wrote:
Moosey i honestly don't care if you thought there was a vigi or a cop like I said im not pushing this because its dumb and you trying to say it's a reason for you to be town is laughable. ...that's post claim so obviously we knew scott was cop then. No, I'm not trying to claim town. I'm just pointing out how you're reading everything wrong.
Yes but you are talking about noobkings logic PRE CLAIM and why you understood what he was saying. So you did not know scott was the cop then. Honestly im not intrested in talking about this anymore because its dribble.
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