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On July 18 2015 12:28 Onegu wrote: Day 3 Vote Count TJHuggins(2): silentwarrior, Fidei86 silentwarrior(5): MoosyDoosy, Half the Sky,Ticktock, TJHuggins, Noobking Not Voting(3):,Grokken, WonnaPlay, scott31337
This vote count is wrong. I did not move my vote from TJHuggins to silentwarrior. You would have needed a forklift to get my vote off of TJHuggins.
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On July 18 2015 14:09 Grokken wrote:
I also want to point out that if we lynch TJH and he flips cop, you know for certain that I and SW are the last 2 mafia, and town wins. It's a win-win situation.
Yeah, don't worry, you're fine. We're not lynching you, we're lynching TJ. And he's not flipping Cop, he's flipped Red.
On page 33 I gave:
6 REASONS TO THINK GROKKEN IS TOWN
and
9 REASONS TO THINK TJHUGGINS IS SCUM
So having the two of you in a counterclaim situation couldn't be much simpler for me.
But yes, like you said, even if the scum team actually WERE to be you and silentwarrior, this play from you would still be suicide. You would have had silentwarrior make the counterclaim against TJ, instead of you doing it.
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On July 18 2015 11:18 Half the Sky wrote:
Additionally TJH ninja voting would be justified if he had a red check. Plus scum are a man down already and a NK down already so it'd make no sense for him to trade himself in 1 for 1 if he were scum.
It's better than trading himself off 1 for 0, which is what he appeared to be headed toward. If his fake claim gets even ONE mislynch before he goes down, instead of him just being the lynch today, that's at least a LITTLE improvement.
And even if the real Cop counterclaims and we pick the right one (as we are going to) it at least outs the Cop for them, so that if the remaining Mafia member is the roleblocker, the Cop will be nullified from now on.
I think it makes sense for TJ to go ahead and make this fake claim. And I think it's exactly what he had in mind, way back when he first made mention of his "essential information."
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Hey SCOTT: Were you roleblocked last night?
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I guess it's funny now, to think about how I spent half of Night 2 trying to convince the Cop not to use his ability on Grokken.
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On July 18 2015 19:36 Fidei86 wrote:Okay, I'm now 100% convinced that SW is the final mafia.
For me, I wouldn't say 100%. He would be my first guess, but I wouldn't bet the house on it. Ticktock and HtS seem to be going in different directions from us, so we might have some work to do to convince them. (They are also going in different directions from each other though, so at least we have a majority right now. lol)
This is from Page 32, and is still most of the reason for why I think silentwarrior could be scum, and why I think TJ flipping Red makes it a bit more likely that silentwarrior is scum:
+ Show Spoiler +It was me that hypothesized that maybe silentwarrior didn't comment on Sulfurus because there just wasn't much in Sulf's filter to work with. But "not much in the filter to work with" didn't stop silentwarrior from voting against NHM.
As silentwarrior mentioned, I hadn't moved off of NHM yet when he casts that vote. So if the tide turns against NHM and he gets lynched and flips green, SW can at least say that his responsibility for NHM's death is not as great as mine.
If the scum team were to be Sulfurus/TJHuggins/silentwarrior, then SW's reason to be looking for some random place to toss his vote is fairly straightforward. TJ and Sulf had already voted against Moosy. So maybe SW would want to vote elsewhere, just to keep them from all following the same blueprint. Once the push on Sulfurus gets going, and we have a Sulf vs. Moosy race, which one can silentwarrior reasonably choose in that situation? Again, he doesn't really want to vote against Moosy, when both of his teammates are already there. But he doesn't really want to vote Sulfurus, and get the Godfather lynched on Day 1. So he sits tight and hopes the Moosy lynch will go through (all the more likely, if the Scum team was thinking that Moosy's self-vote actually counted). By the time I drop the hammer on Sulfurus, there are only 12 minutes left in the Day. And there were only 4 minutes left in the Day by the time the vote count is clarified by the Mods, making it absolutely clear that my vote on Sulfurus DID drop the hammer on him. Too late for the scum team to get Moosy back in the lead, even if silentwarrior was around (and not legitimately afk).
This "association case" against TJ/silentwarrior is not spectacularly strong. But I do think SW choosing to vote against NHM is a point against him, based on what the explanation would be for him to never say anything about Sulfurus, and based on how I can reason out a motivation for him to vote there, if he's Scum.
As for you setting the over/under for number of posts in the scum thread at 15...I think I'll take the over.
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On July 18 2015 22:11 Grokken wrote:Show nested quote +On July 18 2015 20:07 Fidei86 wrote:
PS you can all call me James "Foolishness" Jones from now on. Boom. I have no idea if you're serious, but if you are, these are probably the most stacked teams ever.
Heh, I don't think Foolishness would be eligible for a Newbie slot.
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n00bKing wrote:
Hey SCOTT: Were you roleblocked last night?
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On July 19 2015 02:54 Tictock wrote:
Conclusion: Fidei is very likely Mafia here.
Meh. If Fidei were the last Mafia, I don't see him needing to say that he is "100%" about silentwarrior, and then start launching into post-game discussion. Why does he need to push so hard for silentwarrior, as opposed to letting the next lynch fall on WonnaPlay or Scott? He could have made his exact same points against silentwarrior without any of the "100%" talk. And based on my earlier comments about silentwarrior, he can expect that I would probably join in. Jumping from "I think SW is the last mafia" to "I'm 100% sure" and talking post-game will just draw added attention to himself if silentwarrior were to flip Green. Because his comments will have been so memorable.
He'd be using WIFOM to try and ward off the extra attention, and doing it just to get a result that doesn't really benefit him that much (the lynch of silentwarrior, as opposed to any other mislynch).
So I'm not really seeing it. Lynch Fidei before HtS, before Grokken, and before Moosy? Okay. Lynch Fidei before silentwarrior or WonnaPlay? Not really that interested.
Like Moosy says, seeing what role TJ flips as is important. If he's the Goon, it probably doesn't matter who we would like Grokken to check. But if TJ is the roleblocker, and Night discussion points toward Grokken checking the Goon, then we might actually get a concession before Day 4 ever starts.
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On July 19 2015 04:38 rsoultin wrote: Day 3 Vote Count TJHuggins(7): silentwarrior, Fidei86, Ticktock, Grokken, MoosyDoosy, Half the Sky, scott31337 silentwarrior(2): TJHuggins, Noobking, Not Voting(1):WonnaPlay
Still no.
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On July 19 2015 06:53 Fidei86 wrote:
EON2 hype people. Anyone else here to witness the flip?
Here to witness the flip. Now stop spamming. lol
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On July 19 2015 03:39 n00bKing wrote:
As for you setting the over/under for number of posts in the scum thread at 15...I think I'll take the over.
I win! :D
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My coach was very busy with work (and another game, in which he was trying to avoid the noose) so my coaching QT was maybe 1/3 the size of the one from my last game.
But I certainly can't argue with how things turned out!
Thanks for the save on Night 2, Half the Sky. Darn Mafia guys, trying to kill me...and after they already killed me on Night 1 of my last game, too! Shame on them!
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On July 19 2015 07:15 Fidei86 wrote:Show nested quote +On July 19 2015 07:06 n00bKing wrote:On July 19 2015 03:39 n00bKing wrote:
As for you setting the over/under for number of posts in the scum thread at 15...I think I'll take the over. I win! :D Did you minus all the posts from BlazingHand and Onegu/Tina? :-)
26 posts by actual Mafia dudes! 
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On July 19 2015 07:24 Fidei86 wrote:
I vote HTS MVP for town.
Reasonable. Was a lot of help in getting Sulfurus lynched. And when she healed me on Night 2, I think it probably killed whatever motivation the scum team might have had left.
On July 19 2015 07:24 Fidei86 wrote:Brb got to go gloat in the "why does town keep losing thread"
lol, right. Just tell them to wait for one of the scum members to fly off the handle when his Mafia buddy gets lynched, and for the other one to get mod-killed. Easy! 
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Awww, I got a hug!
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