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Oatsmaster
Profile Joined October 2012
United States16628 Posts
July 06 2015 16:41 GMT
#1101
On July 07 2015 01:27 Half the Sky wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 07 2015 01:19 Oatsmaster wrote:
On July 07 2015 01:15 Half the Sky wrote:
On July 07 2015 01:10 marvellosity wrote:
HF's point on Trfel is that having played a hard/effortful mafiagame, it's very hard to then go hard/effortful at the start of the next game. So what you do as mafia is you just troll and post shit in an attempt to look carefree, because you can't actually be bothered to do any serious work. I thought this was abundantly clear but people keep misrepresenting HF on it.


Alright. Now this makes a lot more sense. I'm used to metareading Trfel a certain way since he does play this way in his town games but failed to take that part into account. Which is then a point in HF's favour.

so why didnt you say this in your read on trfel?

Like you say that HF's read on trfel is bad because you think trfel is town.

But in your read on trfel, hes null.

TMI
scumslip 1.2


Not a scumslip. The thing with Trfel I am trying to take everything into account. If you want to accuse me of selective reasoning, yeh I missed the part about HF's reasoning from last game, but that's what happens when you read the entire thread in one shot, you are bound to not collect everything. Of course I'll make a mistake.

The first post/subsequent AFKing part is a trait I've seen in his town games. From my own meta/experience with him, he's town. I am also aware he's recently had scum success though, so I would think he's going to be smart enough to replicate his town game as much as possible. Since his analysis/filter arguments, etc are what apparently won him the game in NSM11 that I feel is the most critical component to work on, hence the null read.

Am I making sense now?

I accuse Col mustard in the Library with a candlestickyou of knowing that trfel is town when you concocted your read on HF.
No gg, No skill.
Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30775 Posts
July 06 2015 16:42 GMT
#1102
On July 07 2015 01:33 Damdred wrote:
Well that took a bit to read a good amount of town reads from it sorta, these are the people id want to lynch today

Trfel
Ritoky
LIGHTNINGSTRIKE

these are my most wanted lynched obvious preference



tell me town reads and why
Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30775 Posts
July 06 2015 16:45 GMT
#1103
Also, isn't rsoul flustered because of me repeatedly beating her down with the stupid stick? Not sure how that was overlooked at all and you couldn't remember?
LightningStrike
Profile Joined February 2011
United States14277 Posts
July 06 2015 16:45 GMT
#1104
On July 07 2015 01:27 Holyflare wrote:
jesus why did i type ls

i mean hts

Because you like me?
May the next light shine/Former #1 Alliance LoL fan/ Current Teamliquid LoL Fan
Vivax
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
22061 Posts
July 06 2015 16:45 GMT
#1105
I retract that I would sheep on Trfel, I realized he posted more than I thought.
We should kill geript for being a liar.
Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30775 Posts
July 06 2015 16:46 GMT
#1106
LS, i'm holding you to a high standard this game. You need to make it up to everyone after last game anyway apparently. SO, tell me all of your reads and why you think them and how things are going down.
Half the Sky
Profile Joined May 2014
Germany9029 Posts
July 06 2015 16:47 GMT
#1107
On July 07 2015 01:39 Holyflare wrote:
Show nested quote +
From my own meta/experience with him, he's town. I am also aware he's recently had scum success though, so I would think he's going to be smart enough to replicate his town game as much as possible.


Show nested quote +
Am I making sense now?



Show nested quote +
On July 07 2015 01:30 Holyflare wrote:
I just don't get it hts, none of what I said is to do with afking in the slightest. That was just a cursory pressure post at the start of the game. Everything is to do with his return which is a more than prominent feature in this thread if you read through it since BH had to make a public announcement about the shit I was wading through.

Since i've never seen him do it in any of his town games and nobody has corrected me to say otherwise, I simply have no idea how you and rsoul can say the exact same thing that his meta and tone reads point to him being town.



Alright, my experience/meta does not cover the game where Trfel helped carry mafia (NSM11) as I did not actually play in that game. My understanding of that game is that he won the game based on how he filter dove people and spun his arguments. If your problem is with the way he's deflecting and posting what you seem to be scumreading him for, I can tell you he did the same thing in Down Under 2. He made several posts about music composition and whatnot and then actually cased the hosts in lylo. And he was town that game.

Please tell me I am making more sense than I have done before?
The phoenix must burn to emerge. - Janet Fitch
Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30775 Posts
July 06 2015 16:47 GMT
#1108
On July 07 2015 01:45 Vivax wrote:
I retract that I would sheep on Trfel, I realized he posted more than I thought.
We should kill geript for being a liar.


...............................?

"I will sheep hf's read that trfel is posting contentless drivel"
"i will not sheep hf's read on trfel because he's posted LOTS of contentless drivel"


???????????????????????????
marvellosity
Profile Joined January 2011
United Kingdom36161 Posts
July 06 2015 16:48 GMT
#1109
On July 07 2015 01:45 Vivax wrote:
I retract that I would sheep on Trfel, I realized he posted more than I thought.
We should kill geript for being a liar.

that should be a reason for you to want to lynch him more, not less.
[15:15] <Palmar> and yes marv, you're a total hottie
marvellosity
Profile Joined January 2011
United Kingdom36161 Posts
July 06 2015 16:49 GMT
#1110
i see i don't need to post.
[15:15] <Palmar> and yes marv, you're a total hottie
KelsierSC
Profile Blog Joined March 2013
United Kingdom10443 Posts
July 06 2015 16:49 GMT
#1111
this marv hf mindmeld is unreal
Zerg for Life
Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30775 Posts
July 06 2015 16:51 GMT
#1112
On July 07 2015 01:47 Half the Sky wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 07 2015 01:39 Holyflare wrote:
From my own meta/experience with him, he's town. I am also aware he's recently had scum success though, so I would think he's going to be smart enough to replicate his town game as much as possible.


Am I making sense now?



On July 07 2015 01:30 Holyflare wrote:
I just don't get it hts, none of what I said is to do with afking in the slightest. That was just a cursory pressure post at the start of the game. Everything is to do with his return which is a more than prominent feature in this thread if you read through it since BH had to make a public announcement about the shit I was wading through.

Since i've never seen him do it in any of his town games and nobody has corrected me to say otherwise, I simply have no idea how you and rsoul can say the exact same thing that his meta and tone reads point to him being town.



Alright, my experience/meta does not cover the game where Trfel helped carry mafia (NSM11) as I did not actually play in that game. My understanding of that game is that he won the game based on how he filter dove people and spun his arguments. If your problem is with the way he's deflecting and posting what you seem to be scumreading him for, I can tell you he did the same thing in Down Under 2. He made several posts about music composition and whatnot and then actually cased the hosts in lylo. And he was town that game.

Please tell me I am making more sense than I have done before?


That's the only thing I needed. His opening looks a lot like his mafia game though because of the no content and i've never seen a town game where he's done the same. It also fits the mafiarollingitis theory to a tee.
marvellosity
Profile Joined January 2011
United Kingdom36161 Posts
July 06 2015 16:51 GMT
#1113
On July 07 2015 01:49 KelsierSC wrote:
this marv hf mindmeld is unreal

British ISTPs, go figure
[15:15] <Palmar> and yes marv, you're a total hottie
Half the Sky
Profile Joined May 2014
Germany9029 Posts
July 06 2015 16:54 GMT
#1114
On July 07 2015 01:48 marvellosity wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 07 2015 01:45 Vivax wrote:
I retract that I would sheep on Trfel, I realized he posted more than I thought.
We should kill geript for being a liar.

that should be a reason for you to want to lynch him more, not less.


More content doesn't always mean better (that's not just for Trfel, that's really for anyone) or a townread or stronger townread.

Noooowwwwwww.......onwards to LightningStrike. Going to get some food though.
The phoenix must burn to emerge. - Janet Fitch
Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30775 Posts
July 06 2015 16:54 GMT
#1115
hey hey we all live in london let's go to the pub

apart from marv cz he's a scummy non-londoner
Half the Sky
Profile Joined May 2014
Germany9029 Posts
July 06 2015 16:54 GMT
#1116
EBWOP - that post was directed at Vivax, not Harkon.
The phoenix must burn to emerge. - Janet Fitch
Half the Sky
Profile Joined May 2014
Germany9029 Posts
July 06 2015 16:55 GMT
#1117
On July 07 2015 01:54 Holyflare wrote:
hey hey we all live in london let's go to the pub

apart from marv cz he's a scummy non-londoner


I can sheep this.
Still wanting to go to piccadilly institute?
The phoenix must burn to emerge. - Janet Fitch
Half the Sky
Profile Joined May 2014
Germany9029 Posts
July 06 2015 16:56 GMT
#1118
In any case, I'll be back.
The phoenix must burn to emerge. - Janet Fitch
Harkon
Profile Joined June 2015
569 Posts
July 06 2015 16:56 GMT
#1119
On July 07 2015 01:49 marvellosity wrote:
i see i don't need to post.

My thoughts exactly.
Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30775 Posts
July 06 2015 16:57 GMT
#1120
On July 07 2015 01:55 Half the Sky wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 07 2015 01:54 Holyflare wrote:
hey hey we all live in london let's go to the pub

apart from marv cz he's a scummy non-londoner


I can sheep this.
Still wanting to go to piccadilly institute?


well i'm no millionaire
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