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Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30774 Posts
July 06 2015 16:22 GMT
#1081
yessss i'm already like "sweet can destroy people with marv this game" in my head like 5 mins ago
marvellosity
Profile Joined January 2011
United Kingdom36161 Posts
July 06 2015 16:26 GMT
#1082
lovely jublee
[15:15] <Palmar> and yes marv, you're a total hottie
Half the Sky
Profile Joined May 2014
Germany9029 Posts
July 06 2015 16:27 GMT
#1083
On July 07 2015 01:19 Oatsmaster wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 07 2015 01:15 Half the Sky wrote:
On July 07 2015 01:10 marvellosity wrote:
HF's point on Trfel is that having played a hard/effortful mafiagame, it's very hard to then go hard/effortful at the start of the next game. So what you do as mafia is you just troll and post shit in an attempt to look carefree, because you can't actually be bothered to do any serious work. I thought this was abundantly clear but people keep misrepresenting HF on it.


Alright. Now this makes a lot more sense. I'm used to metareading Trfel a certain way since he does play this way in his town games but failed to take that part into account. Which is then a point in HF's favour.

so why didnt you say this in your read on trfel?

Like you say that HF's read on trfel is bad because you think trfel is town.

But in your read on trfel, hes null.

TMI
scumslip 1.2


Not a scumslip. The thing with Trfel I am trying to take everything into account. If you want to accuse me of selective reasoning, yeh I missed the part about HF's reasoning from last game, but that's what happens when you read the entire thread in one shot, you are bound to not collect everything. Of course I'll make a mistake.

The first post/subsequent AFKing part is a trait I've seen in his town games. From my own meta/experience with him, he's town. I am also aware he's recently had scum success though, so I would think he's going to be smart enough to replicate his town game as much as possible. Since his analysis/filter arguments, etc are what apparently won him the game in NSM11 that I feel is the most critical component to work on, hence the null read.

Am I making sense now?
The phoenix must burn to emerge. - Janet Fitch
Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30774 Posts
July 06 2015 16:27 GMT
#1084
anyway the more i think about it the less likely i think ls has the balls to claim miller so whatever
Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30774 Posts
July 06 2015 16:27 GMT
#1085
jesus why did i type ls

i mean hts
WaveofShadow
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Canada31494 Posts
July 06 2015 16:27 GMT
#1086
On July 07 2015 00:16 geript wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 07 2015 00:11 Oatsmaster wrote:
On July 07 2015 00:03 geript wrote:
Ten pages and more people dumbly think oats is town. Fun.

Do the words "investigator" mean anything to you?

First off, that's one word dumbass. Second the word investigator means nothing to me. It shouldn't to anyone. It's fucking stupid. Roles are listed in the op.

I fucking busted out laughing in the doctors office and now people are staring at me

The XP analysis

Oh man Best thread NA/EU/singapore?
twitch.tv/waveofshadow ||| Winner of AHGL's So You Think You Can Cast! ||| Juicy Dad for lyfe ||| 'idk i get a kick out of stupid things' - Jarms Yarng
Half the Sky
Profile Joined May 2014
Germany9029 Posts
July 06 2015 16:28 GMT
#1087
Other people to look at...alright, let me re-read some filters, unless someone wants to talk to me about someone else.
The phoenix must burn to emerge. - Janet Fitch
Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30774 Posts
July 06 2015 16:28 GMT
#1088
From my own meta/experience with him, he's town. I am also aware he's recently had scum success though, so I would think he's going to be smart enough to replicate his town game as much as possible.


Am I making sense now?


no but carry on
Harkon
Profile Joined June 2015
569 Posts
July 06 2015 16:28 GMT
#1089
On July 07 2015 01:27 Half the Sky wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 07 2015 01:19 Oatsmaster wrote:
On July 07 2015 01:15 Half the Sky wrote:
On July 07 2015 01:10 marvellosity wrote:
HF's point on Trfel is that having played a hard/effortful mafiagame, it's very hard to then go hard/effortful at the start of the next game. So what you do as mafia is you just troll and post shit in an attempt to look carefree, because you can't actually be bothered to do any serious work. I thought this was abundantly clear but people keep misrepresenting HF on it.


Alright. Now this makes a lot more sense. I'm used to metareading Trfel a certain way since he does play this way in his town games but failed to take that part into account. Which is then a point in HF's favour.

so why didnt you say this in your read on trfel?

Like you say that HF's read on trfel is bad because you think trfel is town.

But in your read on trfel, hes null.

TMI
scumslip 1.2


Not a scumslip. The thing with Trfel I am trying to take everything into account. If you want to accuse me of selective reasoning, yeh I missed the part about HF's reasoning from last game, but that's what happens when you read the entire thread in one shot, you are bound to not collect everything. Of course I'll make a mistake.

The first post/subsequent AFKing part is a trait I've seen in his town games. From my own meta/experience with him, he's town. I am also aware he's recently had scum success though, so I would think he's going to be smart enough to replicate his town game as much as possible. Since his analysis/filter arguments, etc are what apparently won him the game in NSM11 that I feel is the most critical component to work on, hence the null read.

Am I making sense now?

The point is however that Trfel did not afk immediately. He was really desperate to get some irrelevant out of game discussion going.
marvellosity
Profile Joined January 2011
United Kingdom36161 Posts
July 06 2015 16:29 GMT
#1090
On July 07 2015 01:27 Holyflare wrote:
anyway the more i think about it the less likely i think ls has the balls to claim miller so whatever

yes, the mitigating factor is that it was so late = not dangerous
[15:15] <Palmar> and yes marv, you're a total hottie
Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30774 Posts
July 06 2015 16:30 GMT
#1091
I just don't get it hts, none of what I said is to do with afking in the slightest. That was just a cursory pressure post at the start of the game. Everything is to do with his return which is a more than prominent feature in this thread if you read through it since BH had to make a public announcement about the shit I was wading through.

Since i've never seen him do it in any of his town games and nobody has corrected me to say otherwise, I simply have no idea how you and rsoul can say the exact same thing that his meta and tone reads point to him being town. You then go onto say that rsoul is flustered and is mafiay when she has the exact same stance you do on trfel?
Harkon
Profile Joined June 2015
569 Posts
July 06 2015 16:31 GMT
#1092
On July 07 2015 01:22 Holyflare wrote:
yessss i'm already like "sweet can destroy people with marv this game" in my head like 5 mins ago

This seems optimal.

Will just sheep our british overlords and in case Holyflare is mafia blame marv for it.
Half the Sky
Profile Joined May 2014
Germany9029 Posts
July 06 2015 16:33 GMT
#1093
On July 07 2015 01:30 Holyflare wrote:
I just don't get it hts, none of what I said is to do with afking in the slightest. That was just a cursory pressure post at the start of the game. Everything is to do with his return which is a more than prominent feature in this thread if you read through it since BH had to make a public announcement about the shit I was wading through.

Since i've never seen him do it in any of his town games and nobody has corrected me to say otherwise, I simply have no idea how you and rsoul can say the exact same thing that his meta and tone reads point to him being town. You then go onto say that rsoul is flustered and is mafiay when she has the exact same stance you do on trfel?


It's not her stance that makes her scummy. It's her reaction.
The phoenix must burn to emerge. - Janet Fitch
Damdred
Profile Joined July 2014
15669 Posts
July 06 2015 16:33 GMT
#1094
Well that took a bit to read a good amount of town reads from it sorta, these are the people id want to lynch today

Trfel
Ritoky
LIGHTNINGSTRIKE

these are my most wanted lynched obvious preference

Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30774 Posts
July 06 2015 16:34 GMT
#1095
yes yes whatever, that still doesn't explain the trfel thing
Half the Sky
Profile Joined May 2014
Germany9029 Posts
July 06 2015 16:35 GMT
#1096
For HF - to clarify, when she is mafia, those are the reactions you get when she's pushed, period.
The phoenix must burn to emerge. - Janet Fitch
Half the Sky
Profile Joined May 2014
Germany9029 Posts
July 06 2015 16:36 GMT
#1097
In any case would I lynch Ras today? No. I even acknowledged I have to look at her more closely.
The phoenix must burn to emerge. - Janet Fitch
Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30774 Posts
July 06 2015 16:37 GMT
#1098
On July 07 2015 01:30 Holyflare wrote:
I just don't get it hts, none of what I said is to do with afking in the slightest. That was just a cursory pressure post at the start of the game. Everything is to do with his return which is a more than prominent feature in this thread if you read through it since BH had to make a public announcement about the shit I was wading through.

Since i've never seen him do it in any of his town games and nobody has corrected me to say otherwise, I simply have no idea how you and rsoul can say the exact same thing that his meta and tone reads point to him being town. You then go onto say that rsoul is flustered and is mafiay when she has the exact same stance you do on trfel?


maybe that's a better way to get the answer i'm looking for?
KelsierSC
Profile Blog Joined March 2013
United Kingdom10443 Posts
July 06 2015 16:39 GMT
#1099
On July 07 2015 01:33 Damdred wrote:
Well that took a bit to read a good amount of town reads from it sorta, these are the people id want to lynch today

Trfel
Ritoky
LIGHTNINGSTRIKE

these are my most wanted lynched obvious preference



what do you think about rsoul now ?
Zerg for Life
Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30774 Posts
July 06 2015 16:39 GMT
#1100
From my own meta/experience with him, he's town. I am also aware he's recently had scum success though, so I would think he's going to be smart enough to replicate his town game as much as possible.


Am I making sense now?



On July 07 2015 01:30 Holyflare wrote:
I just don't get it hts, none of what I said is to do with afking in the slightest. That was just a cursory pressure post at the start of the game. Everything is to do with his return which is a more than prominent feature in this thread if you read through it since BH had to make a public announcement about the shit I was wading through.

Since i've never seen him do it in any of his town games and nobody has corrected me to say otherwise, I simply have no idea how you and rsoul can say the exact same thing that his meta and tone reads point to him being town.



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