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ruXxar
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
Norway5669 Posts
July 06 2015 14:38 GMT
#995
On July 06 2015 23:36 Oatsmaster wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 06 2015 23:33 ruXxar wrote:
On July 06 2015 23:31 Oatsmaster wrote:
On July 06 2015 23:19 ruXxar wrote:
On July 06 2015 23:16 marvellosity wrote:
*whispers to ruXxar*

he's not


I don't think kelsier is scum.
I think it's weird how oats points out stuff and when i question him about it he responds with "lol".
Why did you point out that it was over the top if you didn't think it was alignment indicative?

Do you think that people who refer to themselves in 3rd person are weird?


Not in the context presented.
In general, yes.

My point is:
Why do you point it out if you don't think it's alignment indicative?

Because hes weird.

Im not sure where you are going with this, people post fluff all the time.


I was wondering if you thought it was alignment indicative since you pointed it out, and I'm not getting a clear answer from you.
"alright guys im claiming my role im actually politician I can manipulate a persons vote during the day phase, used it on clarity last phase and forced him to vote for HF. full role name donald trump, definitely town sided". - EBH
ruXxar
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
Norway5669 Posts
July 06 2015 14:41 GMT
#997
On July 06 2015 23:38 Oatsmaster wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 06 2015 23:38 ruXxar wrote:
On July 06 2015 23:36 Oatsmaster wrote:
On July 06 2015 23:33 ruXxar wrote:
On July 06 2015 23:31 Oatsmaster wrote:
On July 06 2015 23:19 ruXxar wrote:
On July 06 2015 23:16 marvellosity wrote:
*whispers to ruXxar*

he's not


I don't think kelsier is scum.
I think it's weird how oats points out stuff and when i question him about it he responds with "lol".
Why did you point out that it was over the top if you didn't think it was alignment indicative?

Do you think that people who refer to themselves in 3rd person are weird?


Not in the context presented.
In general, yes.

My point is:
Why do you point it out if you don't think it's alignment indicative?

Because hes weird.

Im not sure where you are going with this, people post fluff all the time.


I was wondering if you thought it was alignment indicative since you pointed it out, and I'm not getting a clear answer from you.

its obviously not alignment indicative.

Like.

Come on man.


Thanks, only took you 3 posts to answer my question.
"alright guys im claiming my role im actually politician I can manipulate a persons vote during the day phase, used it on clarity last phase and forced him to vote for HF. full role name donald trump, definitely town sided". - EBH
ruXxar
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
Norway5669 Posts
July 06 2015 14:45 GMT
#999
On July 06 2015 23:44 Oatsmaster wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 06 2015 23:41 ruXxar wrote:
On July 06 2015 23:38 Oatsmaster wrote:
On July 06 2015 23:38 ruXxar wrote:
On July 06 2015 23:36 Oatsmaster wrote:
On July 06 2015 23:33 ruXxar wrote:
On July 06 2015 23:31 Oatsmaster wrote:
On July 06 2015 23:19 ruXxar wrote:
On July 06 2015 23:16 marvellosity wrote:
*whispers to ruXxar*

he's not


I don't think kelsier is scum.
I think it's weird how oats points out stuff and when i question him about it he responds with "lol".
Why did you point out that it was over the top if you didn't think it was alignment indicative?

Do you think that people who refer to themselves in 3rd person are weird?


Not in the context presented.
In general, yes.

My point is:
Why do you point it out if you don't think it's alignment indicative?

Because hes weird.

Im not sure where you are going with this, people post fluff all the time.


I was wondering if you thought it was alignment indicative since you pointed it out, and I'm not getting a clear answer from you.

its obviously not alignment indicative.

Like.

Come on man.


Thanks, only took you 3 posts to answer my question.

because it was blinding obvious.


I can't put together the two words "Oatsmaster" and "Obvious".
Sorry, does not compute.
"alright guys im claiming my role im actually politician I can manipulate a persons vote during the day phase, used it on clarity last phase and forced him to vote for HF. full role name donald trump, definitely town sided". - EBH
ruXxar
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
Norway5669 Posts
July 06 2015 14:48 GMT
#1001
On July 06 2015 23:46 Holyflare wrote:
Zzzzzz i can't rationalise a town rsoul repeatedly defending someone who normally plays early in the game and has reads but instead is just spamming the thread instead. Then her 2 scummiest people are me and kelsier???

Also, yeh, ritoky's reads were bad and very odd.



*you and me.
"alright guys im claiming my role im actually politician I can manipulate a persons vote during the day phase, used it on clarity last phase and forced him to vote for HF. full role name donald trump, definitely town sided". - EBH
ruXxar
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
Norway5669 Posts
July 06 2015 14:54 GMT
#1010
On July 06 2015 23:53 Harkon wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 06 2015 23:49 Holyflare wrote:
Kelsier's silly effort is likely towny, marv is k for now, ruxxar still cool uhhhh hardon hehe seems ok, oats cool

Shit tier list awesome

That list isn't shit tier.


+1.
"alright guys im claiming my role im actually politician I can manipulate a persons vote during the day phase, used it on clarity last phase and forced him to vote for HF. full role name donald trump, definitely town sided". - EBH
ruXxar
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
Norway5669 Posts
July 06 2015 15:02 GMT
#1015
@Kelsier, top scumreads atm?
"alright guys im claiming my role im actually politician I can manipulate a persons vote during the day phase, used it on clarity last phase and forced him to vote for HF. full role name donald trump, definitely town sided". - EBH
ruXxar
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
Norway5669 Posts
July 06 2015 15:08 GMT
#1017
On July 07 2015 00:03 geript wrote:
Ten pages and more people dumbly think oats is town. Fun.


I don't believe in magic.
"alright guys im claiming my role im actually politician I can manipulate a persons vote during the day phase, used it on clarity last phase and forced him to vote for HF. full role name donald trump, definitely town sided". - EBH
ruXxar
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
Norway5669 Posts
July 06 2015 15:30 GMT
#1030
On July 07 2015 00:29 Oatsmaster wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 07 2015 00:22 geript wrote:
I think he's trying to say he scumslipped and was just following what HF did early not realizing there are two investigators.

scumslip x2


Bullshit. Scum are the least likely to slip anything zzz.
"alright guys im claiming my role im actually politician I can manipulate a persons vote during the day phase, used it on clarity last phase and forced him to vote for HF. full role name donald trump, definitely town sided". - EBH
ruXxar
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
Norway5669 Posts
July 06 2015 15:52 GMT
#1048
On July 07 2015 00:46 Oatsmaster wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 07 2015 00:44 Harkon wrote:
On July 07 2015 00:42 Oatsmaster wrote:
On July 07 2015 00:40 geript wrote:
On July 07 2015 00:36 marvellosity wrote:
On July 07 2015 00:34 geript wrote:
On July 07 2015 00:31 marvellosity wrote:
On July 07 2015 00:30 geript wrote:
I'm seeing how dumb I have to make my arguments for people to sheep me.

you've not made any arguments

You're not reading very closely.

i'll rephrase:

whatever you're doing is making me want to lynch oats less and less, whatever his alignment is.

ok bbcakes. It's not my fault that you're not all up on specific player's trolling meta, or how they annoy people. Or the fact that they don't get into shit fights with people where they make fucking retarted statements without calling them scum. You know, like it wasn't obvious already.

Ok here's my argument. I'm Dumbledore and I have a red check on Oats.

no red text in that statement.

Am i getting wooshed here or does geript really believe that claiming cop will convince people.

No idea what he is doing to be honest even if he was dumbledore (probably isn't) he would not have a check yet.

ok so you arent a vet.
Hm.


Oats, you better start making sense soon, cause this is stupid.
"alright guys im claiming my role im actually politician I can manipulate a persons vote during the day phase, used it on clarity last phase and forced him to vote for HF. full role name donald trump, definitely town sided". - EBH
ruXxar
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
Norway5669 Posts
July 06 2015 17:58 GMT
#1182
On July 07 2015 02:49 rsoultin wrote:
then there's this post:

Show nested quote +
On July 06 2015 12:07 ruXxar wrote:
Ls plz don't say too many stupid things.
I don't want to lynch you for bad reasons.



I don't want LS to claim blue for dumb reasons.

On July 07 2015 02:49 rsoultin wrote:
why does something i'm writing that has nothing to do with him fluster him?


It's confusing me how you're unable to answer such an easy question in a clear and concise manner.
Don't like that at all.
"alright guys im claiming my role im actually politician I can manipulate a persons vote during the day phase, used it on clarity last phase and forced him to vote for HF. full role name donald trump, definitely town sided". - EBH
ruXxar
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
Norway5669 Posts
July 06 2015 18:33 GMT
#1241
On July 07 2015 03:28 Trfel wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 07 2015 03:27 Holyflare wrote:
this is trfel's world:

"I haven't done anything and that's not the norm for any of my town games"
"hf scum reads me for that"
"that's just scummy!"

care to explain anything at all trfel? since you scum read me earlier and never elaborated then either
That's not the reason for my scumread.

And I'm not going to tell you my scumread now, because you are not getting lynched today, and I want to see if you keep doing the thing I'm scumreading you for.


Give me some reads trfel.
I don't want to wait until EoD for every list again :/
"alright guys im claiming my role im actually politician I can manipulate a persons vote during the day phase, used it on clarity last phase and forced him to vote for HF. full role name donald trump, definitely town sided". - EBH
ruXxar
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
Norway5669 Posts
July 06 2015 18:38 GMT
#1250
On July 07 2015 03:31 Clarity_nl wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 07 2015 03:28 Trfel wrote:
On July 07 2015 03:27 Holyflare wrote:
this is trfel's world:

"I haven't done anything and that's not the norm for any of my town games"
"hf scum reads me for that"
"that's just scummy!"

care to explain anything at all trfel? since you scum read me earlier and never elaborated then either
That's not the reason for my scumread.

And I'm not going to tell you my scumread now, because you are not getting lynched today, and I want to see if you keep doing the thing I'm scumreading you for.


I know it's dumb and I hate rewarding the "fuck you I'm not getting lynched you get no info from me" but I think this post makes him a bit more likely to be town. I feel he'll show his colours in time


??

He's saying HF won't get lynched, not that he himself won't get lynched.
"alright guys im claiming my role im actually politician I can manipulate a persons vote during the day phase, used it on clarity last phase and forced him to vote for HF. full role name donald trump, definitely town sided". - EBH
ruXxar
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
Norway5669 Posts
July 06 2015 18:46 GMT
#1267
On July 07 2015 03:37 Half the Sky wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 07 2015 02:58 ruXxar wrote:
On July 07 2015 02:49 rsoultin wrote:
then there's this post:

On July 06 2015 12:07 ruXxar wrote:
Ls plz don't say too many stupid things.
I don't want to lynch you for bad reasons.



I don't want LS to claim blue for dumb reasons.


So are you (ruxxar) saying this would make LS town/mafia if he does? What do you think of LS now, if anything?


1) It would mean he's town.

2) I think LS is towny, he's showing intent/effort to change his play instead of just imitating his town meta and get away with looking towny.


"alright guys im claiming my role im actually politician I can manipulate a persons vote during the day phase, used it on clarity last phase and forced him to vote for HF. full role name donald trump, definitely town sided". - EBH
ruXxar
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
Norway5669 Posts
July 06 2015 18:53 GMT
#1275
On July 07 2015 03:51 Trfel wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 07 2015 03:46 ruXxar wrote:
On July 07 2015 03:37 Half the Sky wrote:
On July 07 2015 02:58 ruXxar wrote:
On July 07 2015 02:49 rsoultin wrote:
then there's this post:

On July 06 2015 12:07 ruXxar wrote:
Ls plz don't say too many stupid things.
I don't want to lynch you for bad reasons.



I don't want LS to claim blue for dumb reasons.


So are you (ruxxar) saying this would make LS town/mafia if he does? What do you think of LS now, if anything?


1) It would mean he's town.

2) I think LS is towny, he's showing intent/effort to change his play instead of just imitating his town meta and get away with looking towny.


This is a really bad read.

He's playing differently from his town meta. This doesn't mean that he is town, because LightningStrike isn't all that good at imitating his town meta as scum. No one can completely match their town meta as scum...


For someone being so heavily invested in meta, I would expect LS to be one of the best at imitating his town meta if he wanted to.
"alright guys im claiming my role im actually politician I can manipulate a persons vote during the day phase, used it on clarity last phase and forced him to vote for HF. full role name donald trump, definitely town sided". - EBH
ruXxar
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
Norway5669 Posts
July 06 2015 19:04 GMT
#1291
On July 07 2015 03:54 Half the Sky wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 07 2015 03:51 Trfel wrote:
On July 07 2015 03:46 ruXxar wrote:
On July 07 2015 03:37 Half the Sky wrote:
On July 07 2015 02:58 ruXxar wrote:
On July 07 2015 02:49 rsoultin wrote:
then there's this post:

On July 06 2015 12:07 ruXxar wrote:
Ls plz don't say too many stupid things.
I don't want to lynch you for bad reasons.



I don't want LS to claim blue for dumb reasons.


So are you (ruxxar) saying this would make LS town/mafia if he does? What do you think of LS now, if anything?


1) It would mean he's town.

2) I think LS is towny, he's showing intent/effort to change his play instead of just imitating his town meta and get away with looking towny.


This is a really bad read.

He's playing differently from his town meta. This doesn't mean that he is town, because LightningStrike isn't all that good at imitating his town meta as scum. No one can completely match their town meta as scum...


Well I look at that and the question I had here is how he'd know that effort to change his play ISN'T mafia, if a player knows he's getting caught out as mafia (and to an extent LS has) he should be even more inclined to change his play altogether if he rolls scum again.

Let's try this differently - this is for ruxxar - what independently of meta (namely are there any quotes/pages/citations from this game) that makes you think he's town. You've played two games total and only one with LS (he didn't play NSM11 I don't think), therefore it is reasonable to assume you cannot reliably meta LS.


You're right I don't have a good meta-read on LS. I'm not trying to meta him.

This is what made me like him:

On July 06 2015 22:07 ruXxar wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 06 2015 22:01 LightningStrike wrote:
On July 06 2015 13:06 Breshke wrote:
LS can you explain why you think it is easier to read scott later rather than ealier?

Well mainly it's his filter size from wha I had looked at those games hence why I was hestitant about giving a very quick read on him(Although I giving him a slight townlean for now it feels like people want me to be automatic about my meta stuff and I trying to break that habit a bit because it gets me in trouble with others). Anyways I going to read the thread and will answer stuff as I read.


I love you for saying this LS.
"alright guys im claiming my role im actually politician I can manipulate a persons vote during the day phase, used it on clarity last phase and forced him to vote for HF. full role name donald trump, definitely town sided". - EBH
ruXxar
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
Norway5669 Posts
July 06 2015 19:08 GMT
#1297
On July 06 2015 15:28 ritoky wrote:
milo, ls, ruxxar....1 of these is mafia. more to come later.


It's later now.
"alright guys im claiming my role im actually politician I can manipulate a persons vote during the day phase, used it on clarity last phase and forced him to vote for HF. full role name donald trump, definitely town sided". - EBH
ruXxar
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
Norway5669 Posts
July 06 2015 19:14 GMT
#1308
On July 07 2015 04:10 Harkon wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 07 2015 04:08 KelsierSC wrote:
On July 07 2015 04:07 Harkon wrote:
On July 07 2015 04:06 KelsierSC wrote:
On July 07 2015 03:54 Harkon wrote:
On July 07 2015 03:51 Half the Sky wrote:
Nothing from ritoky yet?

##vote ritoky

I'm going to assume he is still in thread... in any case, ritoky, do you have even one scumread you are sure on independent of anyone else?

Fine. Let's make him play.
##Vote: ritoky


this is really stupid

Why? He is clearly here and marvs stuff is decent enough.


because your "pressure" vote is totally pointless if you qualify it in the same post.




No, it is not. He either plays and is towny or he dies. This is not a pure pressure vote.


Harkon who is your top scumread?
"alright guys im claiming my role im actually politician I can manipulate a persons vote during the day phase, used it on clarity last phase and forced him to vote for HF. full role name donald trump, definitely town sided". - EBH
ruXxar
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
Norway5669 Posts
July 06 2015 19:18 GMT
#1317
On July 07 2015 04:13 Half the Sky wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 07 2015 04:04 ruXxar wrote:
You're right I don't have a good meta-read on LS. I'm not trying to meta him.

This is what made me like him:

On July 06 2015 22:07 ruXxar wrote:
On July 06 2015 22:01 LightningStrike wrote:
On July 06 2015 13:06 Breshke wrote:
LS can you explain why you think it is easier to read scott later rather than ealier?

Well mainly it's his filter size from wha I had looked at those games hence why I was hestitant about giving a very quick read on him(Although I giving him a slight townlean for now it feels like people want me to be automatic about my meta stuff and I trying to break that habit a bit because it gets me in trouble with others). Anyways I going to read the thread and will answer stuff as I read.


I love you for saying this LS.


Oh dear that quote....

Admittedly LS's sentence is very tenuous but if I'm understanding it correctly, I think I know why he's saying that the way he is. But I've had a great deal of exposure to LS, so I know where that comes from.

But you have only played twice with him. Why do you think he's town especially for the bolded? Why would/should any townie care whether a typically townie meta/method/approach would land him in trouble?


Because I was the one of the main people harping on him to not use meta-reads in the last game.

The fact that LS is willing to risk stepping out of his shell and willing to change his play without being scared of getting scumread is a towntrait from my POV of LS.

It's my personality read of LS.
"alright guys im claiming my role im actually politician I can manipulate a persons vote during the day phase, used it on clarity last phase and forced him to vote for HF. full role name donald trump, definitely town sided". - EBH
ruXxar
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
Norway5669 Posts
July 06 2015 19:23 GMT
#1323
On July 07 2015 04:14 ruXxar wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 07 2015 04:10 Harkon wrote:
On July 07 2015 04:08 KelsierSC wrote:
On July 07 2015 04:07 Harkon wrote:
On July 07 2015 04:06 KelsierSC wrote:
On July 07 2015 03:54 Harkon wrote:
On July 07 2015 03:51 Half the Sky wrote:
Nothing from ritoky yet?

##vote ritoky

I'm going to assume he is still in thread... in any case, ritoky, do you have even one scumread you are sure on independent of anyone else?

Fine. Let's make him play.
##Vote: ritoky


this is really stupid

Why? He is clearly here and marvs stuff is decent enough.


because your "pressure" vote is totally pointless if you qualify it in the same post.




No, it is not. He either plays and is towny or he dies. This is not a pure pressure vote.


Harkon who is your top scumread?


@Harkon, Is ritoky your top scumread? If not, who is?
"alright guys im claiming my role im actually politician I can manipulate a persons vote during the day phase, used it on clarity last phase and forced him to vote for HF. full role name donald trump, definitely town sided". - EBH
ruXxar
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
Norway5669 Posts
July 06 2015 19:44 GMT
#1345
On July 07 2015 04:35 Harkon wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 07 2015 04:34 ritoky wrote:
I see claiming has accrued me more votes; can't help it if people be bad. Have fun lynching a cop for the 2nd game in a row, I am gonna get my teeth cleaned.

Why did you claim without trying anything else first?


Pretty much this.

You're giving 0 efforts in trying to help your town win by giving up and making your role useless.
Either you're fake claiming as VT, or you're fake claiming as mafia.
Doubt you're cop.
"alright guys im claiming my role im actually politician I can manipulate a persons vote during the day phase, used it on clarity last phase and forced him to vote for HF. full role name donald trump, definitely town sided". - EBH
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