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On July 23 2015 08:27 Half the Sky wrote:
Anyhow, I wanted to give BH a shoutout for hosting and especially his kick ass flavour.
Much <3.
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I also think you played well HtS. Obviously the nolynch sucked and you somehow couldn't find a rsoultin scumread but your posts were well constructed and you were very clearly town in my eyes. Looking townie is half of what mafia is about, if more people mastered it the game would be easier.
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On July 23 2015 08:26 rsoultin wrote:Show nested quote +On July 23 2015 08:24 XEliteBlueHunter69X wrote:On July 23 2015 08:23 rsoultin wrote:On July 23 2015 08:22 XEliteBlueHunter69X wrote:
moral of the story girls are unlynchable xP lol hardly hf and i are hard to lynch because we make a lot of noise and usually make at least some sense. it is really that simple if thats what helps you sleep at night xP xD >< i've been lynched/conceded hts has more than once i think? bunnies always gets lynched but blame it on the ovaries if you like?
On TL, I've been lynched once.
I have never been lynched as town though either on TL or on any other site I've ever played on. So at least I'm doing something right there :/
But yeh when I saw that post eod 5 I was honestly like WTF.
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On July 23 2015 08:29 rsoultin wrote:Show nested quote +On July 23 2015 08:26 Holyflare wrote:On July 23 2015 08:22 Clarity_nl wrote:
Holyflare you kinda pissed me off with your martyring and I feel like I coulda stopped your lynch so for what it's worth I'm sorry about that. yes well like i said, there was an incredible amount of out of game stuff happening, I could have also stopped my own lynch but there would be no way i could continue to play in this game a few more cycles with the way things were going and figured it was best to get me out of the way so you could actually see that rsoultin was mafia.......................................... still following a policy because you didn't like the things i was doing when you were hard town reading me was silly and that's on you  agreed, and it was a huge part of what made you lynchable, clar
Yep.
Although if you look at how my lynch happened no one actually had any reasons for me being scum, which is sad.
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I've literally never been lynched as town, possibly because of my ovaries as well
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Also, there was an incredible problem that I pointed out in the obs qt and why you people think spam is so detrimental to the game. You people simply do not play with that style properly at all:
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like seriously nobody even reads games anymore or looks at post in the context of the thread, that's why they all play like shit and think things look good when they read filters
there have been 0 cases from townies on anyone in this entire game since vivax and myself died
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you know how fucking stupid that is? they tried to lynch va yesterday for no reason, they are lynching clarity today for no reason that anyone has explained, nobody is playing mafia they are just saying other people are mafia
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I've been lynched twice as town now, twice at lylo, it's really sad.
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On July 23 2015 08:29 Clarity_nl wrote:Show nested quote +On July 23 2015 08:29 rsoultin wrote:On July 23 2015 08:26 Holyflare wrote:On July 23 2015 08:22 Clarity_nl wrote:
Holyflare you kinda pissed me off with your martyring and I feel like I coulda stopped your lynch so for what it's worth I'm sorry about that. yes well like i said, there was an incredible amount of out of game stuff happening, I could have also stopped my own lynch but there would be no way i could continue to play in this game a few more cycles with the way things were going and figured it was best to get me out of the way so you could actually see that rsoultin was mafia.......................................... still following a policy because you didn't like the things i was doing when you were hard town reading me was silly and that's on you agreed, and it was a huge part of what made you lynchable, clar Yep. Although if you look at how my lynch happened no one actually had any reasons for me being scum, which is sad.
That's why I got a bit antsy at EoD day 6 :/
Close but not quite.
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On July 23 2015 08:28 XEliteBlueHunter69X wrote:
I just refuse to play in any more games with it because people just end up kissing your ass and the game is pathetic at that point.
You should have been lynched but instead -redacted- doesnt want to kill you cause girl. its clear as day but whatever im just done with it ^^
:/ you make me sad, va
i like playing with you. it's really sad that of the last 3 games we've played together i've been mafia in 2 of them...i get that some of this is coming from the fact that i should have been lynched over you in carnaval, and i agree with that 100%, but eh, i'm going to use what's available to me and unfortunately your style of play leaves you very open to being pushed for a mislynch
you could easily have voted for me this day phase. you chose not to. such is life
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On July 23 2015 08:30 Holyflare wrote:Also, there was an incredible problem that I pointed out in the obs qt and why you people think spam is so detrimental to the game. You people simply do not play with that style properly at all: Show nested quote +HolyflarePerson was signed in when posted
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like seriously nobody even reads games anymore or looks at post in the context of the thread, that's why they all play like shit and think things look good when they read filters
there have been 0 cases from townies on anyone in this entire game since vivax and myself died
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you know how fucking stupid that is? they tried to lynch va yesterday for no reason, they are lynching clarity today for no reason that anyone has explained, nobody is playing mafia they are just saying other people are mafia
Yeah I mean all issues aside, the overarching thing that happened htis game is that starting around Day 2 or so, there weren't really a lot of cases going on. It was still the right move to claim the Track, probably, but with all the claims everyone got settled into "automatically lynch, automatically lynch" sort of mindset, and that caused a slowdown in analysis that I think extended out to the later game.
It didn't help that a lot of people had long filters and it was difficult to reread the thread. Part of this was probably certainl players like Trfel, EBH, etc not having time, but when it comes down to it if you have a 400 page game you can't REALLY expect someone to do a reread at LYLO and catch scum that way. Now, that's not neccessary, of course, but sometimes it helps.
In general, I think a lot of factors contributed to people not being willing to write cases, or pay close attention to analysis. Scum also played admirably which contributes to this.
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On July 23 2015 08:30 Holyflare wrote:Also, there was an incredible problem that I pointed out in the obs qt and why you people think spam is so detrimental to the game. You people simply do not play with that style properly at all: Show nested quote +HolyflarePerson was signed in when posted
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like seriously nobody even reads games anymore or looks at post in the context of the thread, that's why they all play like shit and think things look good when they read filters
there have been 0 cases from townies on anyone in this entire game since vivax and myself died
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you know how fucking stupid that is? they tried to lynch va yesterday for no reason, they are lynching clarity today for no reason that anyone has explained, nobody is playing mafia they are just saying other people are mafia
hf said something brilliant and i blustered to bury it
he asked me what i'd done this game
that is how to catch me...above everything else
yes, i'd posted a lot, yes i'd made reads and pushed things, but i hadn't actually done anything that was pushing town forward. it's a subtlety that isn't obvious just filter-diving and it's more tone/timing
breshke made a similar comment about me doing nothing but fighting with ruxx and hf...objectively that wasn't true and wouldn't stand up to review. subjectively, the reason people could only remember that was because of again tone/timing
they were very very right but those sorts of reads are practically impossible to push?
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On July 23 2015 08:28 XEliteBlueHunter69X wrote:
I just refuse to play in any more games with it because people just end up kissing your ass and the game is pathetic at that point.
You should have been lynched but instead -redacted- doesnt want to kill you cause girl. its clear as day but whatever im just done with it ^^
This is kinda pathetic if you believe this.
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I'll take the blame fairly heavily for this one I should have just kept sleeping HF that day and left my vote on Rsoultin. Also idc what you say Ras but the not leaving legacy reads is so legit still hahah.
Also I think the 1/2 shot rolls are a really good mechanic
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On July 23 2015 08:37 Breshke wrote:
I'll take the blame fairly heavily for this one I should have just kept sleeping HF that day and left my vote on Rsoultin. Also idc what you say Ras but the not leaving legacy reads is so legit still hahah.
Also I think the 1/2 shot rolls are a really good mechanic
lolol
yeah if town hadn't outed all their roles we probably would have been roflstomped
(and yes, bresh >> my problem with legacies is it really is a natural extension of when i feel i'm going to be nkd rather than something i just /do/ so they slip past me when i'm scum more than they should xP that is an objective way to read me that will be true most of the time and i wouldn't blame anyone for mislynching me for not doing it >< even if it makes me do more work lol)
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I mean a couple of things really screwed over town:
- ritoky's claim was not necesarry at the time he probably could have diverted the lynch
- milo's claim was the same, although he was in more danger of actually being lynched as the day was closer to coming to an end.
- Two scum roleblockers: I don't have a balance problem with this, but it really screwed town over since scum HAPPENED to have two roleblockers and town HAPPENED to have two claimed cops, it was basically impossible to lynch outside of ritoky/milo, it only happened due to the track.
So although geript tracked scum which was obviously great, this made the next lynch between two cops which really really sucks.
The next night HF is defending himself against TWO whole people who call him scum, and then after the flips when two people vote for him he freaks out and martyrs. Don't get me wrong I sympathize with having irl issues but it just didn't work out for town. I wish I had had the balls to move the lynch away from HF as I could have made it happen, but a combination of anger and doubt made me stick to him "in case he's scum".
So suddenly we're 3 days later (9 actual days) and it's tough to recover from 9 days of not much going on.
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On July 23 2015 08:40 rsoultin wrote:Show nested quote +On July 23 2015 08:37 Breshke wrote:
I'll take the blame fairly heavily for this one I should have just kept sleeping HF that day and left my vote on Rsoultin. Also idc what you say Ras but the not leaving legacy reads is so legit still hahah.
Also I think the 1/2 shot rolls are a really good mechanic lolol yeah if town hadn't outed all their roles we probably would have been roflstomped (and yes, bresh >> my problem with legacies is it really is a natural extension of when i feel i'm going to be nkd rather than something i just /do/ so they slip past me when i'm scum more than they should xP that is an objective way to read me that will be true most of the time and i wouldn't blame anyone for mislynching me for not doing it >< even if it makes me do more work lol)
To be fair I tossed aside the legacy thing as you were clearly not getting nightkilled if you were town.
Then I give townies hard townreads and they call me 100% scum, basically telling me I can't win the game unless I spend the next 9 days working my ass off, and I didn't have it in me.
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I mean like... what kind of mafia player have you ever seen that did what I did? I think it's overwhelmingly low/0? Especially when people tell you i'm some kind of amazing player at mafia lol?
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On July 23 2015 08:45 Holyflare wrote:
I mean like... what kind of mafia player have you ever seen that did what I did? I think it's overwhelmingly low/0? Especially when people tell you i'm some kind of amazing player at mafia lol?
Honestly I see scum martyr all the time. You did it like 3 times that day. Only the second half of that day did you start looking townie again and at that point I was fed up. It's my fault for not overcoming that, but you can't say it's all my fault and none of yours.
edit: Also the fact that you flipped on me and called me scum made me not want to keep you alive, I'll be honest
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On July 23 2015 08:47 Clarity_nl wrote:Show nested quote +On July 23 2015 08:45 Holyflare wrote:
I mean like... what kind of mafia player have you ever seen that did what I did? I think it's overwhelmingly low/0? Especially when people tell you i'm some kind of amazing player at mafia lol? Honestly I see scum martyr all the time. You did it like 3 times that day. Only the second half of that day did you start looking townie again and at that point I was fed up. It's my fault for not overcoming that, but you can't say it's all my fault and none of yours.
This conversation comes up every game and martyring is incredibly null but either way i'm not saying it's exclusively your fault at all.
I also still don't understand that argument at all. I'm dying/martyring and you're a person that said that if i do work then you'll town read me, at what point is it logical for survival to mafia read that person if i'm mafia? Trfel did the exact same thing to you today saying you changed reads at an opportune time and you laughed at him and said he must be mafia. Can you now see my reaction to that?
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Yeah I can.
It's all good, my thinking during that day wasn't what it should've been, I hope I get to play in a game with you again HF.
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yayayaya gg will be better next time if i play again but dunno if i will
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