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rsoultin
Profile Blog Joined November 2014
Netherlands15308 Posts
July 16 2015 04:24 GMT
#7121
pretty sure the assumption

and i know marv echoed it at some point

was that if va is smurfing so that he can be more active/participate more without being scumread for it, shouldn't we see something other than his generic barely playing behavior this game?

there was also something about his nk analysis not being applied to everyone...i'd have to look up what exactly was said, but he mentioned that the palmar kill suggested a certain subset of players while excluding some players from that subset, which is a valid point
"rsoultin: Mafia Suicide Inducer...you have unlimited shots because you are so god-damn relentless." - marvellosity (2015)
ObiWanShinobi
Profile Joined April 2014
United States8089 Posts
July 16 2015 04:25 GMT
#7122
Anyhoezels. I am going to bed.
Lynch Hf. Lynch Va right after.

Good night.
Retired.
Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30774 Posts
July 16 2015 04:26 GMT
#7123
Yes i made that point.

Va has posted about 10,000 more posts than usual and he was outed pretty quickly. I don't see how he can change his usual thought process or playstyle from one game to the next just because his name changes. (and evidently he can't if he was outed so quickly).
rsoultin
Profile Blog Joined November 2014
Netherlands15308 Posts
July 16 2015 04:27 GMT
#7124
On July 16 2015 13:23 Holyflare wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 16 2015 13:20 rsoultin wrote:
On July 16 2015 13:00 Holyflare wrote:
Rsoultin I understand you think you've done something and keep complaining to people about ruxxar being mafia but he is your only push this entire game since day 1. I would appreciate if you looked elsewhere since I do not think you get so focused on just one player as town ever. You have skirted around this obi thing for a good while and you don't need to look at his filter to comment on my posts or see his posts at all.


?? i have commented on obi quite a bit this game? just as i brought damdy to people's attention, and i know you haven't forgotten my pushing you, milo or scott. it's certainly irritating that you keep saying i'm not doing things when i have been...i brought scott to your attention multiple times before you started pushing him yourself, and yeah, i was wrong, but saying i'm not doing anything is blatantly false

but tbh i'm actually still not paying attention to this game fully...i already mentioned that not pushing you when you were up for lynch was strange and ows' excuse even stranger

^ this is why i'm really certain you're not actually reading my posts, btw

i'll take a look at the clarity thing...lol eventually >< which means before the end of the night. as for his townreads based on activity, i agree that for ruxx and myself that's nai...ruxx was plenty active last scumgame and anyone who has seen one of my scumgames knows i can post just as much as a scum hf xP

in all honesty, if we were going by activity levels, i probably have a lower activity/pg ratio than almost any of my games as either alignment this game -shrugs- though again, it's not something i keep close enough track of to know for sure


Yes yes ok, you're a good player. This wasn't the answer I'm looking for though it's so wishy washy and doesn't say anything about obi. I KNOW his reads based on activity mean nothing but why do you tell me what i already know instead of what it means foefor obi?

I mean... You just don't seem inquisitive and it's scummy and i can't get past it.


let me explain something to you

i don't just sheep people. it's not in my blood. i like to review cases. i haven't had the opportunity yet. no amount of poking at me about it before i review it is going to change that

if you're not seeing me be "inquisitive" you are again selectively reading. i've been questioning my scumreads based on what i noticed and i will take a look at your scumread when i am good and ready

also, so that you can understand what busy means, i will not return to the thread until i've done so ^^

capice?
"rsoultin: Mafia Suicide Inducer...you have unlimited shots because you are so god-damn relentless." - marvellosity (2015)
Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30774 Posts
July 16 2015 04:27 GMT
#7125
On July 16 2015 13:25 ObiWanShinobi wrote:
Anyhoezels. I am going to bed.
Lynch Hf. Lynch Va right after.

Good night.


What an inspiring tale of scum reads that are totally unqualified and unexplained much like all of your reads that are based on nothing!
rsoultin
Profile Blog Joined November 2014
Netherlands15308 Posts
July 16 2015 04:28 GMT
#7126
On July 16 2015 13:26 Holyflare wrote:
Yes i made that point.

Va has posted about 10,000 more posts than usual and he was outed pretty quickly. I don't see how he can change his usual thought process or playstyle from one game to the next just because his name changes. (and evidently he can't if he was outed so quickly).


i actually have a townlean on va for that reason xP i also feel like he's contributed more. i still should look up that one point cause i'd forgotten about it until you jogged my memory -_-

okay now really going
"rsoultin: Mafia Suicide Inducer...you have unlimited shots because you are so god-damn relentless." - marvellosity (2015)
ObiWanShinobi
Profile Joined April 2014
United States8089 Posts
July 16 2015 04:28 GMT
#7127
Rso, don't even waste your time.
He's just going to hound you with bullshit and bog you down as much as he can to avoid being lynched. It's all he can do.

If you ignore him, he'll go away.
(He probably won't but you'll probably feel better and the thread will be cleaner as a result.)
Retired.
Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30774 Posts
July 16 2015 04:35 GMT
#7128
I think I've been perfectly reasonable and outlined my read pretty well. I don't need anyone to do digging since I did it for myself and everyone else can just read your posts from this cycle to get a good idea.

Your town reads are simply based on activity metrics that don't apply to those players but you don't apply it to me for some reason.

Your mafia read is VA for acting like VA does in every single game but for some reason this game it means VA is 100% without a doubt mafia.

Your other mafia read is me despite you trying to blatantly flee from the town flip wagon earlier. You also only just conjured up this read in 2 seconds last night despite not thinking i was mafia all game. You also ignore clarity completely despite saying everything but he's mafia in every post when he does mafia things and when i say he's mafia suddenly radio silence from you about it.

You also fulfill your own scum read on VA by not explaining anything so by your own metric are mafia.

Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30774 Posts
July 16 2015 04:36 GMT
#7129
On July 16 2015 13:07 Holyflare wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 16 2015 13:06 ObiWanShinobi wrote:
On July 16 2015 13:05 Oatsmaster wrote:
On July 16 2015 11:56 ObiWanShinobi wrote:
On July 16 2015 11:50 Oatsmaster wrote:
On July 16 2015 11:43 ObiWanShinobi wrote:
Rso is town.
Rux is also likely town.

lol so whos mafia?


Dude I've said who I want to lynch like 50 times. Hf and Ebh.
Stop being obtuse.

er there are 3 mafia


I am aware.


Who did you think was mafia at the end of last cycle before you decided randomly it was me and va?

Why do you scum read va btw?


I suggest that if you are town you answer this post haste as things will start to take an unfortunate turn for you very shortly.
XEliteBlueHunter69X
Profile Joined June 2015
155 Posts
July 16 2015 04:41 GMT
#7130
yea if anyone is still townreading obi after he's scumreading himself then I suggest this be your last game of mafia
XEliteBlueHunter69X
Profile Joined June 2015
155 Posts
July 16 2015 04:43 GMT
#7131
This could also be HF simply distancing himself from obi, that's entirely possible. but the end result is the same.
Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30774 Posts
July 16 2015 04:48 GMT
#7132
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Breshke
Profile Joined July 2014
Australia3749 Posts
July 16 2015 05:07 GMT
#7133
Ruxxar all your martying stuff about HF means jack shit though because he never truely left. And if he is mafia he was probably planning on doing exactly what I said and coming back right near the end to get votes off of himself.

That being said I do not want to lynch HF this cycle. Obi can you give a read on clarity that doesn't give him a pass for activity i want to see it please
ObiWanShinobi
Profile Joined April 2014
United States8089 Posts
July 16 2015 05:15 GMT
#7134
On July 16 2015 14:07 Breshke wrote:
Ruxxar all your martying stuff about HF means jack shit though because he never truely left. And if he is mafia he was probably planning on doing exactly what I said and coming back right near the end to get votes off of himself.

That being said I do not want to lynch HF this cycle. Obi can you give a read on clarity that doesn't give him a pass for activity i want to see it please


No.
If you're going to be fucking useless and write Hf off for no reason then I'm not even going to bother because he's just going to tunnel me and I'm not dealing with that for another phase. I'd rather be lynched than listen to idiots give him passes for nothing while dealing with his bullshit for days.

I lost weight dealing with the stress in hearthstone and I'm not dealing with that here.
Retired.
Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30774 Posts
July 16 2015 05:16 GMT
#7135
Nobody is saying anything untoward and I'm certainly not tunneling you to death. I wouldn't be asking you questions if I was super sure. You should answer these questions.
Trfel
Profile Joined August 2011
7015 Posts
July 16 2015 05:18 GMT
#7136
On July 16 2015 14:15 ObiWanShinobi wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 16 2015 14:07 Breshke wrote:
Ruxxar all your martying stuff about HF means jack shit though because he never truely left. And if he is mafia he was probably planning on doing exactly what I said and coming back right near the end to get votes off of himself.

That being said I do not want to lynch HF this cycle. Obi can you give a read on clarity that doesn't give him a pass for activity i want to see it please


No.
If you're going to be fucking useless and write Hf off for no reason then I'm not even going to bother because he's just going to tunnel me and I'm not dealing with that for another phase. I'd rather be lynched than listen to idiots give him passes for nothing while dealing with his bullshit for days.

I lost weight dealing with the stress in hearthstone and I'm not dealing with that here.
Hearthstone and stress should not go in the same sentence...
ObiWanShinobi
Profile Joined April 2014
United States8089 Posts
July 16 2015 05:19 GMT
#7137
On July 16 2015 14:18 Trfel wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 16 2015 14:15 ObiWanShinobi wrote:
On July 16 2015 14:07 Breshke wrote:
Ruxxar all your martying stuff about HF means jack shit though because he never truely left. And if he is mafia he was probably planning on doing exactly what I said and coming back right near the end to get votes off of himself.

That being said I do not want to lynch HF this cycle. Obi can you give a read on clarity that doesn't give him a pass for activity i want to see it please


No.
If you're going to be fucking useless and write Hf off for no reason then I'm not even going to bother because he's just going to tunnel me and I'm not dealing with that for another phase. I'd rather be lynched than listen to idiots give him passes for nothing while dealing with his bullshit for days.

I lost weight dealing with the stress in hearthstone and I'm not dealing with that here.
Hearthstone and stress should not go in the same sentence...


I'm talking about hearthstone mafia.
Not actual hearthstone.

I'm actually going to play hearthstone to feel better though. That might help.
Retired.
rsoultin
Profile Blog Joined November 2014
Netherlands15308 Posts
July 16 2015 05:25 GMT
#7138
yo, truffle, where you at in the catch-up?

you've got my undivided attention (mostly) for the next hour lol and i think you're more up on the recent stuff than i am

i've got you, oats and ls as my strong towns

do you have any doubts on hts/clarity or can i skip over them and look at everyone else?
"rsoultin: Mafia Suicide Inducer...you have unlimited shots because you are so god-damn relentless." - marvellosity (2015)
boxerfred
Profile Blog Joined December 2012
Germany8360 Posts
July 16 2015 05:28 GMT
#7139
On July 16 2015 09:56 Holyflare wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 16 2015 09:38 Breshke wrote:
On July 16 2015 09:28 Holyflare wrote:
I think oats is town because his play on day 1 basically only comes from someone who knows about being a VT and if he was mafia he would directly understand that geript was a blue instead and yet geript wasn't shot at all. I think besides that his play has been relatively active/intuitive and towny.

I also think Vivax is town because of activity and yes his posts have been weird but I have town feels from them and he seems to be pushing his ideas which are more in line with a town vivax than anything.

Wave is purely meta and a geript read so it could be completely wrong.

I realise that PoE's me but I am not mafia either, I also kind of like VA's posting and yeh it looks like he's "too right" but VA isn't that bad and his posts haven't been awful and have been in line with what i'm thinking most of the time (obi, kelsier etc) I realise that like.... literally leaves just me and ruxxar but I don't really have a read on ruxxar and i'm town so that pretty much means your PoE is very likely wrong (mayyybeeee not on VA and ruxxar but i think VA is probably town)


genuinely thankyou for this.

Can you explain the "comes from someone who knows about being a VT" bit about oats and also elaborate or show me what posts from vivax you egt townfeels from?

Also you have a problem with some people for townreading you when they have no buisness town reading you. Why do you not apply this to ruxxar aswell? Do you find the reasons for his townread on you to be legitimate?


Well, oats pushed geript for his "scum slip" thing all of day one right?

Show nested quote +
On July 07 2015 00:11 Oatsmaster wrote:
On July 07 2015 00:03 geript wrote:
Ten pages and more people dumbly think oats is town. Fun.

Do the words "investigator" mean anything to you?

Show nested quote +
On July 07 2015 00:19 Oatsmaster wrote:
On July 07 2015 00:16 geript wrote:
On July 07 2015 00:11 Oatsmaster wrote:
On July 07 2015 00:03 geript wrote:
Ten pages and more people dumbly think oats is town. Fun.

Do the words "investigator" mean anything to you?

First off, that's one word dumbass. Second the word investigator means nothing to me. It shouldn't to anyone. It's fucking stupid. Roles are listed in the op.

scumslip


It genuinely looks like Oats is a VT and "caught" out geript in his scum slip thing and besides that he had actual logical reasons to scum read geript too, he elaborated more on it later:
Show nested quote +
On July 08 2015 01:59 Oatsmaster wrote:
On July 08 2015 01:55 Harkon wrote:
Let's look at oats scumslip accusations:
On July 07 2015 00:19 Oatsmaster wrote:
On July 07 2015 00:16 geript wrote:
On July 07 2015 00:11 Oatsmaster wrote:
On July 07 2015 00:03 geript wrote:
Ten pages and more people dumbly think oats is town. Fun.

Do the words "investigator" mean anything to you?

First off, that's one word dumbass. Second the word investigator means nothing to me. It shouldn't to anyone. It's fucking stupid. Roles are listed in the op.

scumslip

This is extremely stupid since geript says in the very same post that roles (for example the VT role investigator) are listed in the OP.
On July 07 2015 00:29 Oatsmaster wrote:
On July 07 2015 00:22 geript wrote:
I think he's trying to say he scumslipped and was just following what HF did early not realizing there are two investigators.

scumslip x2

This is weird because geript doesn't connect the investigator to the VT role like I just said. I also already pointed that out when it happened. The 2 investigators comment itself is perfectly fine.

except geript isnt referring to the VT role pm when he says "roles", hes referring to the blue roles available in the game.

Show nested quote +
On July 08 2015 02:14 Oatsmaster wrote:
On July 08 2015 02:11 geript wrote:
On July 08 2015 02:07 Oatsmaster wrote:
On July 08 2015 02:04 geript wrote:
On June 19 2015 05:29 Blazinghand wrote:

DMLE Investigator (Vanilla Townie): You’ve been working in Precinct 16 for a long time. You’ve seen a lot of messed up things in your day. When the going gets tough, you don’t stop. Every case takes a little bit out of you, but someone has to do this work. You are a VT.

Investigator Extraordinaire (Vigilante): You keep on thinking back to your idol, Rita Skeeter. You want to be just like her. You’re not gonna let things like an “ongoing investigation” or “hostage situation” stop you from writing your character assassination pieces. You’re a journalist; you and your quick-quotes quill doesn’t afraid of anyone. At night, you can fire a bullet to deal 1 kp to a target. You can't shoot during night 1.

Very hard to read the OP. Much tough. Very braindead.

So why didnt you say something referring investigator to vt?

Why would I need to?

because thats clearly what I was talking about if you had gotten the vt role pm.

But you didnt, so you messed up.


To oats, it was obvious that geript did not get the VT pm and he spent ages tunneling on it (I actually really like all of his posts d1 and maybe I should ignore oats less ) so if he was mafia he'd know that geript was actually blue.




Vivax is a bit hard to quantify but i'll try in a bit

Just jumping by from mobile: since you claimed VT via the PM as the very first post D1, I think it was obvious to everyone (thus to scum, too) that DMLE Investigator is a VT role PM. I think that really weakens your argumentation on town Oats.
But I really like the efforts you're making especially that you refuse to shitfight with rsoul.

XEliteBlueHunter69X
Profile Joined June 2015
155 Posts
July 16 2015 05:31 GMT
#7140
oh yea I completely forgot about why I gave holyflare townread. I really doubt he makes that joke as mafia seemed too natural of a thought process. Hopefully we can come to an agreement on a lynch that isnt HF today, im willing to negotiate.
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