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ruXxar
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
Norway5669 Posts
July 14 2015 22:23 GMT
#6801
On July 15 2015 07:15 LightningStrike wrote:
BTW we are following my plan: Lynch HF.
##Vote: HF


I'm willing to give him 1 more day.
If he doesn't get killed tonight then sure, lynch him with fire.
"alright guys im claiming my role im actually politician I can manipulate a persons vote during the day phase, used it on clarity last phase and forced him to vote for HF. full role name donald trump, definitely town sided". - EBH
Breshke
Profile Joined July 2014
Australia3749 Posts
July 14 2015 22:26 GMT
#6802
Morning guys my reads are confirmed the greatest I hard townread both scum at one point, bow down.

HF talk me through your scum reads I'll listen
XEliteBlueHunter69X
Profile Joined June 2015
155 Posts
July 14 2015 22:26 GMT
#6803
##vote: obiwanshinobi
ruXxar
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
Norway5669 Posts
July 14 2015 22:29 GMT
#6804
On July 15 2015 07:20 Holyflare wrote:
if you can't tell i'm majorly on tilt this entire game so provoking me or poking me or treating me in any way that makes me non productive will instantly flip me to being a negative ass hole

all i wanted to do was give you guys my read on obi and have fun -.-

so i'll just afk and you can lynch me


Cut the martyr crap HF, you're better than that.
"alright guys im claiming my role im actually politician I can manipulate a persons vote during the day phase, used it on clarity last phase and forced him to vote for HF. full role name donald trump, definitely town sided". - EBH
Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30774 Posts
July 14 2015 22:29 GMT
#6805
On July 15 2015 07:23 rsoultin wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 15 2015 07:20 Holyflare wrote:
if you can't tell i'm majorly on tilt this entire game so provoking me or poking me or treating me in any way that makes me non productive will instantly flip me to being a negative ass hole

all i wanted to do was give you guys my read on obi and have fun -.-

so i'll just afk and you can lynch me


i don't understand this attitude from town? like seriously, hf. i know you're some sort of town god or something but you honestly don't have the resiliency to deal with people scumreading you? i find that rather unbelievable -_-

i'll check into your ows case and i hope you'll take some time, cool down, and come back to the thread so that those of us still on the fence can work with you

if you're scum, whatever, but i hope you see the logic in this if you're town, yeah?


have you ever been angry at something? i couldn't give a shit if people scum read me that's none of the reasons i'm angry, people are just ignoring what i say and i'm already angry so it's a bad mix i post 1 read and look how many people came out of the wood work and completely ignored it

jat was bad and bypassed all the logic and called me mafia, ls is basically confirmed town and plays like crap and says i'm mafia and never comments on my obi posts at all and says we should 100% shoot me and wastes his time looking up a post that doesn't even make sense from himalayas, boxerfred all he has done for 3 cycles is intentionally call me mafia to antagonise me for being right on milo and saying that people who shoot me are mafia? ok bf

only clarity gives a shit and at the end of the day he's probably going to end up mafia with ruxxar for the 2 people in this game that town read me while nobody else see's it

anger has no logic and i don't really care just lynch me and be done with it and realise that people's intent to policy and play like crap is far greater than their need to ever treat another player like they are wrong and to maybe change their read and sure it's hypocritical when i've called you mafia all game but i was already mad then and will continue to be mad so it's best to get rid of me and i will no longer post a single thing this phase and it's probably my last mafia game too so, yay!
Trfel
Profile Joined August 2011
7015 Posts
July 14 2015 22:29 GMT
#6806
On July 15 2015 07:26 Breshke wrote:
Morning guys my reads are confirmed the greatest I hard townread both scum at one point, bow down.
I think I did even better than you.... XD

Will be back tonight.
ObiWanShinobi
Profile Joined April 2014
United States8089 Posts
July 14 2015 22:30 GMT
#6807
Told you guys that ksc's hf read was bunk.
Retired.
Clarity_nl
Profile Joined November 2011
Netherlands6826 Posts
July 14 2015 22:33 GMT
#6808
On July 15 2015 07:29 Holyflare wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 15 2015 07:23 rsoultin wrote:
On July 15 2015 07:20 Holyflare wrote:
if you can't tell i'm majorly on tilt this entire game so provoking me or poking me or treating me in any way that makes me non productive will instantly flip me to being a negative ass hole

all i wanted to do was give you guys my read on obi and have fun -.-

so i'll just afk and you can lynch me


i don't understand this attitude from town? like seriously, hf. i know you're some sort of town god or something but you honestly don't have the resiliency to deal with people scumreading you? i find that rather unbelievable -_-

i'll check into your ows case and i hope you'll take some time, cool down, and come back to the thread so that those of us still on the fence can work with you

if you're scum, whatever, but i hope you see the logic in this if you're town, yeah?


have you ever been angry at something? i couldn't give a shit if people scum read me that's none of the reasons i'm angry, people are just ignoring what i say and i'm already angry so it's a bad mix i post 1 read and look how many people came out of the wood work and completely ignored it

jat was bad and bypassed all the logic and called me mafia, ls is basically confirmed town and plays like crap and says i'm mafia and never comments on my obi posts at all and says we should 100% shoot me and wastes his time looking up a post that doesn't even make sense from himalayas, boxerfred all he has done for 3 cycles is intentionally call me mafia to antagonise me for being right on milo and saying that people who shoot me are mafia? ok bf

only clarity gives a shit and at the end of the day he's probably going to end up mafia with ruxxar for the 2 people in this game that town read me while nobody else see's it

anger has no logic and i don't really care just lynch me and be done with it and realise that people's intent to policy and play like crap is far greater than their need to ever treat another player like they are wrong and to maybe change their read and sure it's hypocritical when i've called you mafia all game but i was already mad then and will continue to be mad so it's best to get rid of me and i will no longer post a single thing this phase and it's probably my last mafia game too so, yay!


I don't understand what the big deal is. People argue when they play mafia, people get upset, get over it?

Every time someone even mentions the possibility of you being scum you turn into a whiny baby. >.<

If you don't do anything this game I will lynch you and it will be for policy reasons and you will only have yourself to blame.
FIGHT THE GOOD FIGHT AGAINST STUPIDITY CLARITY, I BELIEVE IN YOU! - Palmar
Half the Sky
Profile Joined May 2014
Germany9029 Posts
July 14 2015 22:39 GMT
#6809
On July 06 2015 10:05 KelsierSC wrote:
so i feel i should give where i'm at

my early read was i like damdred but i have felt underwhelemed by how he townread rsoul, that felt pretty weak to me when you compare the other two games

i've started to like clairty based on how he read wave, clarity HAS LOOKED SCUMMY so for wave to read him as town seems weird to me.

geript has shown some buck and been engaged so he feels town i like his response

i have feelings and like my dick is sort of quivvering either way but im not going toi be like yo, fuck you on other people but that is how i feel



On July 06 2015 12:08 KelsierSC wrote:
im too drunk to play this but last game

damdred and rsoul read eachother as town, and they both had ls as town early

this game damdred has rs as town but ls as mafia but he has rs as town

so something fucked up is happening there

i like geript and i like clarity,
i also like breshke but i dont really know how real this read is

and i dont like Wos as a result of liking clarity, sheeping the fuck

outside of that im fucked to fuck


On July 07 2015 00:24 KelsierSC wrote:
Here are my initial reads

Clarity - The initial posts weren't great but perhaps he was
just excited to play, I really liked his scum read on WoS, he had pressure
on him but he scumread the one guy sort of townreading him out of nowhere
that felt really good. since then his posting has been solid, comments about
trefl and bf seem alright.

Breshke - I have my own sort of meta read on breshke, then I think his point
about LS , damdreds read and his responses to hf are all good,

hf - he's come right out the gate with pressure on trefl and gotten into a few scraps already.
I also like the mindmeld that he and breshke had when they called rsoul out , the "voting early doesnt mean shit" posts

geript - early tone read felt fiesty, felt town.

oats - I liked the xp read on rsoul initially, been up in people's face


wave - I think calling clarity town at the time he did was
strange and it was like he was purposefully trying to go against thread sentiment.
Clarity has retracted the scum read but I'm not a fan

ritoky - he seems less jokey and less engaged than he was at the
start of himalayas. I was asking marv about the 3 name post and although he has
not seen it as scum, it is different from his town and felt out of place.

trefl - I like hf's case I like the comments clarity made.
sheep case completely


weird love triangle

ok so here is this fucked up triangle

rsoul,damdred and LS

now rsoul and damdred can typically read eachother quickly
and in this game they quickly read eachother as town.

Show nested quote +
On July 06 2015 08:38 Damdred wrote:
On July 06 2015 08:35 KelsierSC wrote:
Damdred why is rsoul town

do work


It's a bit of a gut/tone read I have going on her. Her little spat with clarity she was a bit of a pita and her not hostility but uhhh exaggeration makes me feel it's town rd, plus the follow up makes me feel it


and rsoul

Show nested quote +
On July 06 2015 08:01 rsoultin wrote:
On July 06 2015 08:00 Clarity_nl wrote:
Can't help but notice that your vote is on me geript.


lol well i don't really blame him xP with the way you climbed right up hf's ass first post of the game

daaaaaamdy trash tier new method says ls town. so is my method just really trash or are you wrong on ls? xP

to me that looks like someone talking to a town read.

anyway

damdred has LS as mafia early on.

Show nested quote +
On July 06 2015 07:49 Damdred wrote:
Oh carp... ls why did you roll scum?


develops this around laziness and the flip-flop on scott.

now I remember initially I liked this read, it felt good
but wine induced me felt unsure of it later on especially when LS
responded about how you catch scott later on,

so if rsoul and damdred are both town and they read eachother
correctly maybe rsoul is just wrong on LS and damdred is right.
damdred certainly sounded the most confident.

but if LS is town, and i'm really undecided on this. then why is damdred wrong
but rsoul right, especially at the time those reads were given rsoul had no business calling LS town.

I think one of those 3 is mafia because it just doesn't click right now.


Independently of this I haven't really liked rsoul but I have nothing new to add to points raised by hf/marv/oats


So Damdred and KSC did quite a bit of double bussing (!!!) D1. Both pushed on Wave but the pushes went nowhere, not sure if that could/would/should be alignment indicative either way considering WoS has not done much this game.

Bottom of page 4 of his filter - you have a soft push on BF. Interesting. Given BF's play this game though I'm not sure that's alignment indicative.

On July 08 2015 00:30 KelsierSC wrote:
Here's my list right now

Town
hf
breshke
clarity
oats
geript
harkon
LS

scum
trfel
ritoky
damdred
bluehunter
milo
wave

Everyone else I have leans on but this is my head right now.


In between those sets of reads you have a few soft pushes on EBH and Trfel. He's scumreading ritoky and LS the whole time but obv now we know what those latter two are.

Day 2 reads -

On July 14 2015 09:19 KelsierSC wrote:
Hf and boxer feel like town to me i wouldnt lynch them

i'd look at scott, trefl and WoS tomorrow

or a vigi shot


On July 14 2015 09:37 KelsierSC wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 14 2015 09:27 ruXxar wrote:
On July 14 2015 09:19 KelsierSC wrote:
Hf and boxer feel like town to me i wouldnt lynch them

i'd look at scott, trefl and WoS tomorrow

or a vigi shot



Can you qualify your reads?


hf is a tone read to me, i can't fully explain it but i see hf posting about fucking everything in teh game and it feels like town. yeh he can spam as scum. but he feels like town. plus he mindmelded with marv, who is also town. and it reminded me of some other faggot game where the two of them melded to form a titanical robot of doom until marv replaces with some noob ass bitch called koshi.

bf is the same kind of thing, he is around the game and i like what I see. I think his hf fight is just because their aren't many people who give a fuck about the game so when two people who actually care get involved they sort of gith eachother.


scott, it's a "saved" post I made plus a lot of one liners where he tries to get people to fight with eachother.

Show nested quote +
On July 08 2015 05:35 scott31337 wrote:
Meat ninja voted for Clarity
On July 08 2015 05:26 Meapak_Ziphh wrote:
##Vote: Clarity_nl





Show nested quote +
On July 08 2015 06:12 scott31337 wrote:
Rsoul's back
Can we lynch her now Harkon?


Show nested quote +
On July 08 2015 06:57 KelsierSC wrote:
On July 08 2015 06:57 scott31337 wrote:
We have 14.

98% sure BM flips wanderer though


saved


WoS, like that is just a D1 read, his read on "clarity is town " when he has no beez in teh trap business calling clarity town. since then, has he done shit, no, like even i have said more and i hasvent given a fuck for 2 days.

I honestly need to read trefl again. this is from the early game and i ahvent seen anything that made me change my read so i need to double check that and see.

but i'd go for scott or wave over him



Might be WIFOM here but based on Damdred and KSC filters Wave is probably town. Really not a whole lot of additional information since we already know where Damdred and LS stand, and Trfel and BF reads seem to be a little more definitive than before...

Gah was hoping for more, but go friggin figure...
The phoenix must burn to emerge. - Janet Fitch
Clarity_nl
Profile Joined November 2011
Netherlands6826 Posts
July 14 2015 22:40 GMT
#6810
You'll find more info by looking at people talking about kelsier compared to kelsier talking about people I imagine. Appreciate the effort though.
FIGHT THE GOOD FIGHT AGAINST STUPIDITY CLARITY, I BELIEVE IN YOU! - Palmar
Half the Sky
Profile Joined May 2014
Germany9029 Posts
July 14 2015 22:42 GMT
#6811
Yeah going to check the "other side" as well with the people I've tagged on this end: WoS/Trfel/BF/EBH. More of for reference than anything....
The phoenix must burn to emerge. - Janet Fitch
ObiWanShinobi
Profile Joined April 2014
United States8089 Posts
July 14 2015 22:42 GMT
#6812
Ebh or Hf today.
Pick one.
Retired.
Clarity_nl
Profile Joined November 2011
Netherlands6826 Posts
July 14 2015 22:42 GMT
#6813
I like HtS, no whining, just "hey look I did this work here's what I conclude". Why can't you be like this HF?
FIGHT THE GOOD FIGHT AGAINST STUPIDITY CLARITY, I BELIEVE IN YOU! - Palmar
Clarity_nl
Profile Joined November 2011
Netherlands6826 Posts
July 14 2015 22:43 GMT
#6814
EBH!
FIGHT THE GOOD FIGHT AGAINST STUPIDITY CLARITY, I BELIEVE IN YOU! - Palmar
LightningStrike
Profile Joined February 2011
United States14276 Posts
July 14 2015 22:44 GMT
#6815
Also don't you guys find it odd that I wasn't NK'd and yet Marv did?
May the next light shine/Former #1 Alliance LoL fan/ Current Teamliquid LoL Fan
Half the Sky
Profile Joined May 2014
Germany9029 Posts
July 14 2015 22:45 GMT
#6816
On July 15 2015 07:44 LightningStrike wrote:
Also don't you guys find it odd that I wasn't NK'd and yet Marv did?


Actually, not at all. He has more influence than you and truth be told, he's a better player and a bigger threat. You are confirmed but the bigger threats have to go and you have no more guns left anyhow.
The phoenix must burn to emerge. - Janet Fitch
Clarity_nl
Profile Joined November 2011
Netherlands6826 Posts
July 14 2015 22:45 GMT
#6817
On July 15 2015 07:44 LightningStrike wrote:
Also don't you guys find it odd that I wasn't NK'd and yet Marv did?


I'm going to be honest with you LS. I think despite being confirmed town you haven't done much for town. I don't say this to discourage you. Marv on the other hand was townread quite widely and has a better chance of solving the game.
FIGHT THE GOOD FIGHT AGAINST STUPIDITY CLARITY, I BELIEVE IN YOU! - Palmar
LightningStrike
Profile Joined February 2011
United States14276 Posts
July 14 2015 22:46 GMT
#6818
On July 15 2015 07:45 Half the Sky wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 15 2015 07:44 LightningStrike wrote:
Also don't you guys find it odd that I wasn't NK'd and yet Marv did?


Actually, not at all. He has more influence than you and truth be told, he's a better player and a bigger threat. You are confirmed but the bigger threats have to go and you have no more guns left anyhow.

I guess I will lead the town I die from a sword or a gun. Follow me now guys I taking control of this town until I die.
May the next light shine/Former #1 Alliance LoL fan/ Current Teamliquid LoL Fan
Breshke
Profile Joined July 2014
Australia3749 Posts
July 14 2015 22:46 GMT
#6819
I didn't think anything of it at the time because I was fairly certain ksc was town but that post you pointed out from Ruxxar about "if ksc flips mafia" really gives me weird feelings now. It felt like such a fluff post like was Ruxxar even scum or null on ksc? I'm getting on my computer now but if he was town reading then I don't even see why a post like that crosses your mind.

Also if it was that important to him to post before the flip I thought he would be the first to look at their interactions but this is week since its been like 45 mins
LightningStrike
Profile Joined February 2011
United States14276 Posts
July 14 2015 22:47 GMT
#6820
On July 15 2015 07:45 Clarity_nl wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 15 2015 07:44 LightningStrike wrote:
Also don't you guys find it odd that I wasn't NK'd and yet Marv did?


I'm going to be honest with you LS. I think despite being confirmed town you haven't done much for town. I don't say this to discourage you. Marv on the other hand was townread quite widely and has a better chance of solving the game.

We had 2 auto lynches in a row ofc I was reallly discouraed to do work but now I going to look for mafia that I might of missed now that KSC flipped scum.
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