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On July 09 2015 04:22 Clarity_nl wrote:Show nested quote +On July 09 2015 04:17 Meapak_Ziphh wrote:
morning everyone, I still want to lynch milo since nothing he's written has in any way seemed townie.
I also think Wave is probably scum skating under the radar.
discuss Tell me the story of milo claiming 2shot cop after attention shifts to him, after town!ritoky already claimed 1shot cop? I could get onboard with wave but it's hard to tell one way or the other, he's just not playing the game much. He was nonchalant early game which I liked but he didn't care at all who got lynched.
The way I was reading the thread, milo could see pressure was starting to build up against him and had seen how ritoky's claim had made people more hesitant to lynch him so he threw one out of his own:
On July 08 2015 04:14 milo109 wrote:
Sigh. I'm two-shot cop. Fun fun fun.
That just screams apathy to me, his stated reason for his claim is so that he doesn't get lynched. It may have shifted attention to him but come on, what town is actually gonna lynch a claimed cop D1. He knows he's bought himself at least a day with that play and two shot cop is not hard to fake. D2: "Oh guys so I checked one of the dead people, looks like they were <insert alignment> hurr durr." D3: "Oh guys I checked <insert name> and they're scum." Seriously, cop is so easy to fake as scum lol. If he survives tonight and doesn't produce a check I'm all for lynching him tomorrow.
I was already to go after wave but then a couple people were discussing his meta and since I haven't played in a year my meta data bank is outdated so I'll have to wait for wave to post more.
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On July 09 2015 04:51 Clarity_nl wrote:
Does this mean you think ritoky is town, MZ?
Between milo and ritoky and I think ritoky is more likely town. I in no way have a green read on him but I'd say he's a lot less suspicious to me than the people I had on my earlier list.
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On July 09 2015 05:02 marvellosity wrote:
Reason:
two people have claimed cop, ritoky and milo
after ritoky claimed cop he's done the bare minimum to be active, involved
after milo claimed cop, he's at least been in the thread, giving reasons, being positive
i think milo looks better than he did before the cop claim, actually doing things, compared to ritoky, who... meh
don't like the milo push.
lol well let's see what happens tonight. If milo is a cop he should be a much higher target than ritoky seeing as he's two shot.
And milo's activity after claiming has been less than stellar. I'd be red reading him anyway without his terrible claim because of how bad his reads are.
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On July 09 2015 05:06 marvellosity wrote:
srsly, go read both their filters since their claims
and come back to me with a straight face and say milo has done less
i DARE you
I really don't give a shit about activity, I give a shit about what they've said. Ritoky has basically fucked off all game using irl excuses, he claimed to avoid a lynch. I'm really not surprised he hasn't said anything since then.
Milo started a halfassed push on me after the day post and that's really it. Just being active doesn't give you an automatic green card. If shit was that simple then we'd just start lynching people based on post count. I don't believe milo's claim and I don't think anything he's said townie.
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Marv have you reread milo's post lynch filter lately?
I'll summarize it for you:
MZ is a better lynch than BM
Shoot MZ tonight
List of scum (terrible list tbh)
Case on MZ
If that's the sudden green explosion you saw I'm missing it
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On July 09 2015 05:14 marvellosity wrote:Show nested quote +That just screams apathy to me, his stated reason for his claim is so that he doesn't get lynched. It may have shifted attention to him but come on, what town is actually gonna lynch a claimed cop D1. He knows he's bought himself at least a day with that play and two shot cop is not hard to fake. D2: "Oh guys so I checked one of the dead people, looks like they were <insert alignment> hurr durr." D3: "Oh guys I checked <insert name> and they're scum." Seriously, cop is so easy to fake as scum lol. If he survives tonight and doesn't produce a check I'm all for lynching him tomorrow. Show nested quote +Ritoky has basically fucked off all game using irl excuses, he claimed to avoid a lynch. I'm really not surprised he hasn't said anything since then. milo mafia, ritoky town got it makes perfect sense to me
Apathy is different from just straight fucking off lol, come on you're being obtuse now, do I have to explain it?
Apathy means milo doesn't really care about his claim and he's just throwing it out there. He knows it will save him so he just throws it out there.
Fucking off (a very technical english term) means he's not even in the thread, he's not reading.
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On July 09 2015 05:16 marvellosity wrote:Show nested quote +On July 09 2015 05:16 ruXxar wrote:On July 09 2015 05:09 marvellosity wrote:
i just can't understand the rationale
ritoky claims 1-shot cop, milo claims 2-shot:
1-shot is less risky mafia claim
milo's claim comes AFTER ritoky's, so he decides to claim the same thing but with 2-shot?
milo has given multiple reads since his claim
ritoky has wishywashyed around
yet no mention of ritoky, and milo is mafia?
read MZ's post #5 on this page, all the reasoning he gives for milo applies MORE to ritoky... ?????? To be fair, he no longer had the option of claiming 1-shot, so that's not really a point in his favor. If he claimed 1 shot to contest ritoky, then we'd basically have to kill them both and kill 1 mafia guaranteed. With the claim of 2-shot he can just produce any random green check as Mafia and still live for multiple days. of course he did you can have multiple one-shot of the same role. none of your points make sense
Ok Marv let's switch this up. Why are you so certain milo is town?
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On July 09 2015 05:36 Harkon wrote:Show nested quote +On July 09 2015 05:34 Holyflare wrote:On July 09 2015 05:27 Harkon wrote:On July 09 2015 05:12 Holyflare wrote:
If you think I hard pushed BM then you can point to my filter where I did that rather than asking people to consolidate from one person who was actually posting and could be mafia (but i had a reason that in my head made him look towny and sense to switch, and you know, you were on that wagon too!) to one person who was posting nothing at all and could have been mafia for his claim. On which wagon? I was basically forced to vote BM since you eroded the MZ wagon so heavily that we would have nolynched if I didn't. Please point out where I eroded it so hard. IIRC about 6 people were saying to switch to BM before I even said anything. I didn't even force the push onto him that hard rather than a "oh everyone is switching so we may as well get it solidly switched instead of force a no lynch" On July 08 2015 06:37 Harkon wrote:
I can also lynch BM but the people suddenly defending MZ have me raising my eyebrows. You say you were forced to switch but you are the one that just butt budied marv and were open to switching anyway, so why are you seemingly so hard done by it when it was a toss up and you didn't really care anyway? There's 25 people in this game so unless you think that mafia were defending MZ it doesn't really make sense. You also never point out these people defending MZ "so hard" at all. Regardless, it doesn't even matter. Point out where I pushed for the lynch. I do not care. It is there for everyone to see and I doubt anyone who was around eod would say that you weren't the guy pushing for BM the hardest. I have no interest to enter a shouting match with you or to let you nitpick everything I say endlessly.
geript was pushing pretty hard too. There were several people.
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On July 09 2015 05:38 marvellosity wrote:
no MZ. it's too late for you.
lol
ur cute marv, all of Palmar's attitude but none of his skill.
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On July 09 2015 05:39 Harkon wrote:Show nested quote +On July 09 2015 05:38 Meapak_Ziphh wrote:On July 09 2015 05:36 Harkon wrote:On July 09 2015 05:34 Holyflare wrote:On July 09 2015 05:27 Harkon wrote:On July 09 2015 05:12 Holyflare wrote:
If you think I hard pushed BM then you can point to my filter where I did that rather than asking people to consolidate from one person who was actually posting and could be mafia (but i had a reason that in my head made him look towny and sense to switch, and you know, you were on that wagon too!) to one person who was posting nothing at all and could have been mafia for his claim. On which wagon? I was basically forced to vote BM since you eroded the MZ wagon so heavily that we would have nolynched if I didn't. Please point out where I eroded it so hard. IIRC about 6 people were saying to switch to BM before I even said anything. I didn't even force the push onto him that hard rather than a "oh everyone is switching so we may as well get it solidly switched instead of force a no lynch" On July 08 2015 06:37 Harkon wrote:
I can also lynch BM but the people suddenly defending MZ have me raising my eyebrows. You say you were forced to switch but you are the one that just butt budied marv and were open to switching anyway, so why are you seemingly so hard done by it when it was a toss up and you didn't really care anyway? There's 25 people in this game so unless you think that mafia were defending MZ it doesn't really make sense. You also never point out these people defending MZ "so hard" at all. Regardless, it doesn't even matter. Point out where I pushed for the lynch. I do not care. It is there for everyone to see and I doubt anyone who was around eod would say that you weren't the guy pushing for BM the hardest. I have no interest to enter a shouting match with you or to let you nitpick everything I say endlessly. geript was pushing pretty hard too. There were several people. So? Does that invalidate my point in any way?
Yes actually because whatever point you're driving at here seems predicated on HF being the biggest proponent of the BM lynch when it reality he was really no more for the switch than several other people who were in the thread.
But let's get to the bottom of this. Are you trying to say that if HF was the only one pushing for BM it makes him scum?
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On July 09 2015 05:43 Harkon wrote:Show nested quote +On July 09 2015 05:41 Meapak_Ziphh wrote:On July 09 2015 05:38 marvellosity wrote:
no MZ. it's too late for you. lol ur cute marv, all of Palmar's attitude but none of his skill. Major scumMZ flashbacks right now. Ridiculing his attackers.
Nah I'm just not interested in talking to marv anymore since he couldn't find it within himself to answer my question.
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On July 09 2015 05:46 Harkon wrote:Show nested quote +On July 09 2015 05:44 Meapak_Ziphh wrote:On July 09 2015 05:39 Harkon wrote:On July 09 2015 05:38 Meapak_Ziphh wrote:On July 09 2015 05:36 Harkon wrote:On July 09 2015 05:34 Holyflare wrote:On July 09 2015 05:27 Harkon wrote:On July 09 2015 05:12 Holyflare wrote:
If you think I hard pushed BM then you can point to my filter where I did that rather than asking people to consolidate from one person who was actually posting and could be mafia (but i had a reason that in my head made him look towny and sense to switch, and you know, you were on that wagon too!) to one person who was posting nothing at all and could have been mafia for his claim. On which wagon? I was basically forced to vote BM since you eroded the MZ wagon so heavily that we would have nolynched if I didn't. Please point out where I eroded it so hard. IIRC about 6 people were saying to switch to BM before I even said anything. I didn't even force the push onto him that hard rather than a "oh everyone is switching so we may as well get it solidly switched instead of force a no lynch" On July 08 2015 06:37 Harkon wrote:
I can also lynch BM but the people suddenly defending MZ have me raising my eyebrows. You say you were forced to switch but you are the one that just butt budied marv and were open to switching anyway, so why are you seemingly so hard done by it when it was a toss up and you didn't really care anyway? There's 25 people in this game so unless you think that mafia were defending MZ it doesn't really make sense. You also never point out these people defending MZ "so hard" at all. Regardless, it doesn't even matter. Point out where I pushed for the lynch. I do not care. It is there for everyone to see and I doubt anyone who was around eod would say that you weren't the guy pushing for BM the hardest. I have no interest to enter a shouting match with you or to let you nitpick everything I say endlessly. geript was pushing pretty hard too. There were several people. So? Does that invalidate my point in any way? Yes actually because whatever point you're driving at here seems predicated on HF being the biggest proponent of the BM lynch when it reality he was really no more for the switch than several other people who were in the thread. But let's get to the bottom of this. Are you trying to say that if HF was the only one pushing for BM it makes him scum? You are twisting my arguments. I never said HF was the only one - that would be a ridiculous statement. I am saying that him pushing BM hard over you is scummy. Especially since he said he did not care about the lynch. Especially because you were a "lock scum lynch" for him until you posted some irrelevant stuff and BM was playing "exactly like in his last town game".
Ah see now we've gotten somewhere. Again though, several other people expressed similar concerns about BM's town play, does their decision to vote for him over me make them look scummy too?
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On July 09 2015 05:48 marvellosity wrote:
the reason i didn't answer it is because the point isn't whether i have a strong townread on milo (i don't particularly, but i have already mentioned and explained that i thought his posting was better since EoD), it's the fact your treatment of milo vs ritoky doesn't make sense
my milo read is but a bitpart
Oh goodness you deigned to answer me, I feel so honored.
I have already explained where I see the differences between milo and ritoky and they have not met your muster. Similarly I fail to see how milo's posting has been better since EoD but apparently it's been enough for you to give him a slight townread.
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On July 09 2015 05:54 marvellosity wrote:Show nested quote +On July 09 2015 05:53 Meapak_Ziphh wrote:On July 09 2015 05:48 marvellosity wrote:
the reason i didn't answer it is because the point isn't whether i have a strong townread on milo (i don't particularly, but i have already mentioned and explained that i thought his posting was better since EoD), it's the fact your treatment of milo vs ritoky doesn't make sense
my milo read is but a bitpart Oh goodness you deigned to answer me, I feel so honored. I have already explained where I see the differences between milo and ritoky and they have not met your muster. Similarly I fail to see how milo's posting has been better since EoD but apparently it's been enough for you to give him a slight townread. yes your explanations are bad because they don't come from a natural standpoint. that's kinda the point of it.
Well that's incredibly subjective but if you've made up your mind there's no point in me discussing this further with you.
Anyway I'm going to a concert, I'll be gone around the night post. If someone vigis me plz look at my scum list and go after any one of wave, scott, milo, or clarity.
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Soooppppppp concert goof but you ppl better
milo you get dem plays there that 0lay on clarify making me rethink
But like if fsmdred is scum that makes ritoky town which still out me on the fence Wirth you.
Also waves last through posy make me think he's solid scum now fuck ppls meta read. I guess we have to figure out this fsmdred ritoky shit today but I wannalynch wave tomororq.
Peaceceeeddds
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Guys ss I'm giving home but I should probably siber up and stuff but tbh I agree with obiwanshinobi that's we should leave this claim shit for now and focus on other scummy ppl. Sadly he thinks I am a bu o want to focus on wavs.
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On July 09 2015 13:57 ObiWanShinobi wrote:
Damdred's claim is the worst out of the lot. If I lynched into the claims, that's where I'd lynch.
Which will end up being marv as per usual but I'm okay with that.
Scott is also being incredibly mafia and should probably die soonish.
Oh yeah Scott needs to die too. He's been like gone for a long time and inform remember he saying anything that's matters lately. His d1 stuff was suspcuciiusb as fuck
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On July 09 2015 14:06 Oatsmaster wrote:Show nested quote +On July 09 2015 14:00 Meapak_Ziphh wrote:On July 09 2015 13:57 ObiWanShinobi wrote:
Damdred's claim is the worst out of the lot. If I lynched into the claims, that's where I'd lynch.
Which will end up being marv as per usual but I'm okay with that.
Scott is also being incredibly mafia and should probably die soonish. Oh yeah Scott needs to die too. He's been like gone for a long time and inform remember he saying anything that's matters lately. His d1 stuff was suspcuciiusb as fuck tell me how scotts day 1 was really bad.
Rain check this ulqyedtion and I'll answer it tomorrow when I wake up
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lool marv you just can't let it go.
Anyway I'm down for a damdred lynch today. I'd be fine with milo tomorrow obviously but I also think we should be considering wave/vivax/scott who have all pulled the disappearing act which would make sense if their scum buddies are currently under scrutiny and they don't want to be forced to comment on it.
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On July 10 2015 03:49 scott31337 wrote:Show nested quote +On July 10 2015 03:47 Meapak_Ziphh wrote:
lool marv you just can't let it go.
Anyway I'm down for a damdred lynch today. I'd be fine with milo tomorrow obviously but I also think we should be considering wave/vivax/scott who have all pulled the disappearing act which would make sense if their scum buddies are currently under scrutiny and they don't want to be forced to comment on it. Lynch Damdred Lynch Milo tomorrow unless something magic happens and then probably you the next day? You misspelled "my" BTW.
lol you literally only show up in the thread when someone says your name which means a) you're reading and b) you're probably scum for active lurking
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