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Harkon
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On July 07 2015 01:03 Harkon wrote: I was about to point that out too. HTS says the jury is still out on Trfel but this statement seems like she has a firm townread on him. | ||
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Harkon
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On July 07 2015 01:08 Half the Sky wrote: I'm actually confused by what you two are saying, particularly Harkon. Let me break it down. If I missed soemthing on these two (I just read the thread in entirety so it's possible I did) or if something is wrong, call me out. HF is scumreading Trfel for posting little of substance. I know others had different reads (most notably Ras) on Trfel. I'm personally reading Trfel as NAI until he posts harder analysis based on Trfel's performance from NSM11. I am trying to interpret HF's read on Trfel but I am struggling with that, but I will also look at how he's reading others more closely. The read on Trfel was what jumped out at me. Marv - only 2 options being bad or mafia? Or are you suggesting that HF at some point TRed him? I missed that if he did. The third option would be that HF is not bad and Trfel is mafia and you do not seem to even consider this possibility. | ||
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Harkon
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On July 07 2015 01:27 Half the Sky wrote: Not a scumslip. The thing with Trfel I am trying to take everything into account. If you want to accuse me of selective reasoning, yeh I missed the part about HF's reasoning from last game, but that's what happens when you read the entire thread in one shot, you are bound to not collect everything. Of course I'll make a mistake. The first post/subsequent AFKing part is a trait I've seen in his town games. From my own meta/experience with him, he's town. I am also aware he's recently had scum success though, so I would think he's going to be smart enough to replicate his town game as much as possible. Since his analysis/filter arguments, etc are what apparently won him the game in NSM11 that I feel is the most critical component to work on, hence the null read. Am I making sense now? The point is however that Trfel did not afk immediately. He was really desperate to get some irrelevant out of game discussion going. | ||
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Harkon
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On July 07 2015 01:22 Holyflare wrote: yessss i'm already like "sweet can destroy people with marv this game" in my head like 5 mins ago This seems optimal. Will just sheep our british overlords and in case Holyflare is mafia blame marv for it. | ||
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Harkon
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On July 07 2015 01:49 marvellosity wrote: i see i don't need to post. My thoughts exactly. | ||
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Harkon
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You are an ISTP? That's surprising. | ||
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Harkon
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On July 07 2015 01:59 marvellosity wrote: funnily enough, the I was the strongest preference of the lot ^_^ That's really strange to me. ESTP here with T being by far the strongest. | ||
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Harkon
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On July 07 2015 02:02 marvellosity wrote: i know, i know, i'm so naturally charismatic and leadery and witty. *giggles* I don't know if those are the words I would choose but yeah. I would have guessed an E for you for sure. | ||
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Harkon
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On July 07 2015 02:07 Holyflare wrote: I's are far superior I am sure they are. | ||
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Harkon
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On July 07 2015 02:15 LightningStrike wrote: 1. He seems to be joking and around a lot early and doing some work which I know he can do as scum 2. His early posting with his claims and stuff seems very similar to how posted day 1 when he got lynched. 3. Forgot about Wave and marv. Slight town on Marv he seems happy this game. Wave prob town I sheeping Geripts read on him since they can soul read each other. Why are you sheeping geripts read if you think he could be scum? | ||
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Harkon
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On July 07 2015 02:29 Vivax wrote: I might as well ignore this whole Trfel thingy since he started doing a little bit of something lately until geript the lying scum is burned for his crimes. Posting useless drivel doesn't auto-mean somebody is scum, just that he wants to post useless drivel for some reason. Much better to look either into the nice guys a la Ruxxar (I'm suspicious of him by standard cause I feel he tries to be everybody's bro, but not willing to call him mafia yet given he also called some shit out that seemed original), and the "too-tryhard-to-be-really-scumhunting" guys a la geript who seems to imitate his ideal townie prototype who calls people mafia as if it was god given and tries to shit on everybody trying to look like he's a dick. 1) Trfel has not started doing a little bit of something. 2) Posting useless drivel should also not make him more town to you. 3) Ruxxar seems pretty towny to me. 4) Geript is way more likely to be dick as town. Conclusion: I disagree with this post in it's entirety. It is astonishing. | ||
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Harkon
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On July 07 2015 02:34 Vivax wrote: 1) He posted some scumreads. 2) No and it shouldn't make him mafia to anyone either. 3) The sky seems pretty green to me. 4) But is he likely to ignore his scumreads in a list and instead comment on two random people he didn't mention before to defend Wave and then the thing Palmar pointed out? 2) Then why would you stop sheeping the case on him based on that? | ||
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Harkon
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On July 07 2015 02:37 Vivax wrote: You people are trying to force me to read him one way or another and I won't do that. Bugger off. Let him play some more first, I want to kill geript. No, us people are questioning your nonsensical switch from "I am sheeping this" to "I am not sheeping this anymore" based on posts that you admit should not make you townread him. | ||
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Harkon
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Please stop shitting up the thread with this unless you have new relevant arguments about someones alignment. Yes, it is weird how dismissive and condescending Holyflare is towards you, rsoultin. I am well aware of that. But instead of ranting about it try to find actual arguments for why what he says about Trfel is not true. If you are town you are not achieving anything by throwing a fit. HF stop trying to make her rage. It's the best excuse for her to avoid contributing meaningful things. | ||
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Harkon
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On July 07 2015 02:49 Vivax wrote: You are playing this game as if you were a referee: From the sidelines. Time to get your hands dirty, you aren't pushing anything, just commenting on anything that passes by. I am fine with being a referee from the sidelines. Who wants dirty hands anyways? | ||
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Harkon
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On July 06 2015 20:59 Harkon wrote: Trfel has been really awkward so far. It seems like he is desperately trying to seem casual and derail the thread. I wouldn't mind one of those questions but this just doesn't look genuine. At this point I think this is forced. | ||
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Harkon
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On July 07 2015 03:15 Half the Sky wrote: geript has done this as mafia - the read on sandroba in JOAT is what comes to mind when they were both mafia, not to mention he has gotten mislynched before when people don't understand him - there was Carnaval and also NSM11... And I don't know how you can say ruxxar "is so totally different" when in last game he replaced in and he could play the way he did partially because he replaced in. I'm not saying that in of itself makes him one alignment or another but I think the basis for your comparison is flawed. Also, Ras did make a good point on him on the LS quote "lynching for bad reasons" and I see the phrasing from ruxxar like "how are you not explaining yourself in a clear and concise manner," etc etc it is just like some of the phrasing he DID use last game as mafia. Granted, maybe I have to read his NSM11 game one more time since I thought he was mafia from the obs qt, he didn't do a great job for himself in that game. But some of hte things he says I do get a feel that he tries to turn things around on people. If he does that as town or did that as town in NSM, then different criteria should be used to evaluate him. To me the argument about ruxxar and geript is quite similar actually. After quickly checking his himalaya filter ruxxar is posting very carefully and thoughtful there while it is the complete opposite in this game. The same applies to geript to an extent. As mafia he generally makes really thought out and well constructed posts. He is also generally way more townread as scum. As town he has very polarizing and borderline nonsensical reads and gets scumread. I am not really concerned with either of them at the moment. | ||
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Harkon
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On July 07 2015 03:17 rsoultin wrote: harkon, what you got? you've been hanging back, and only one person i know i'm actually fine letting that slide with cause that's how he plays, but i don't think you're him anymore Well, how unfortunate for me. | ||
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Harkon
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On July 07 2015 03:25 Holyflare wrote: no idea how anyone can possibly think i'm mafia  please | ||
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Harkon
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On July 07 2015 03:51 Half the Sky wrote: Nothing from ritoky yet? ##vote ritoky I'm going to assume he is still in thread... in any case, ritoky, do you have even one scumread you are sure on independent of anyone else? Fine. Let's make him play. ##Vote: ritoky | ||
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