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rsoultin
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geript and mz both gave some legacy posts as people to look into there's milo who we're probably lynching today because of damdy flipping roleblocker after being tracked to rit...like he's not really being that clear about why he changed his stance on rit and yeah lol you could read my exchange with ruxxar earlier if you wanted but frankly i didn't really get anything out of it so i'm not sure if anyone else could either >< | ||
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rsoultin
Netherlands15308 Posts
On July 12 2015 13:01 WaveofShadow wrote: Like without looking specifically I bet there's been people attempting to somehow push me while I wasn't playing (supposedly for good reason) and yet knowing very well this isn't how I normally play. Probably some scum in thar. xP and probably some town, too, i imagine | ||
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WaveofShadow
Canada31495 Posts
On July 12 2015 13:03 rsoultin wrote: mmm geript and mz both gave some legacy posts as people to look into there's milo who we're probably lynching today because of damdy flipping roleblocker after being tracked to rit...like he's not really being that clear about why he changed his stance on rit and yeah lol you could read my exchange with ruxxar earlier if you wanted but frankly i didn't really get anything out of it so i'm not sure if anyone else could either >< So is there a particular reason we don't want to trust the cop claim then? | ||
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WaveofShadow
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Actually on that note are there people who think I'm town for the same thing? I dunno if there's anything to learn on that. Wish I had TL+ so I could just 'all' the whole thread and look up my name | ||
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Blazinghand
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Trfel has been warned for inactivity. | ||
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WaveofShadow
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rsoultin
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On July 12 2015 13:08 WaveofShadow wrote: So is there a particular reason we don't want to trust the cop claim then? other than milo attempting to get lynched before damdy despite geript's track and the small likelihood of scum having two roleblockers, not to mention what i already mentioned about his odd switch from scumreading rit after rit's cop claim to saying they both could be cops once he'd claimed himself? no xP nothing | ||
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rsoultin
Netherlands15308 Posts
On July 12 2015 13:09 WaveofShadow wrote: Actually on that note are there people who think I'm town for the same thing? I dunno if there's anything to learn on that. Wish I had TL+ so I could just 'all' the whole thread and look up my name lots saying you're town for it i've waffled on both sides -_- but yeah. not sure why any of it matters given there was nothing to read lol >< | ||
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Half the Sky
Germany9029 Posts
On July 12 2015 13:01 WaveofShadow wrote: Like without looking specifically I bet there's been people attempting to somehow push me while I wasn't playing (supposedly for good reason) and yet knowing very well this isn't how I normally play. Probably some scum in thar. That was one thing in the back of my mind. MZ was one of them but so was Damdred lol. I think Vivax was too but now he's trying to go after Trfel. He had you on top lynches for awhile. Is that incongruent with what you'd expect from town Vivax? BF also had you and wanted to lynch you, this is his.....4th game I think? I don't think he's had any exposure to you. Also I'm looking into Kelsier. Ritoky and others brought up how he's fallen off but there was something else too. Related to you, he said he liked (earlier) Clarity's (scum?) read on WoS yet scumread Damdred for his push on WoS so that was something that drew some attention there. Looking through earlier his filter (doublechecking the order in which tings happened) he's saying he's scumreading you for posts where you shouldn't have TRed Clarity early on. I'm trying to piece all that together atm... | ||
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WaveofShadow
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On July 12 2015 13:12 rsoultin wrote: other than milo attempting to get lynched before damdy despite geript's track and the small likelihood of scum having two roleblockers, not to mention what i already mentioned about his odd switch from scumreading rit after rit's cop claim to saying they both could be cops once he'd claimed himself? no xP nothing I'm not sure why the last part is weird. As I remember it milo said something about what ritoky said or phrasing made him change his mind? And what do you mean 'attempting to get lynched?' Like scum trying to save the roleblocker? I can't honestly think of a scenario where I've seen that happen. | ||
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WaveofShadow
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On July 12 2015 13:13 rsoultin wrote: lots saying you're town for it i've waffled on both sides -_- but yeah. not sure why any of it matters given there was nothing to read lol >< lol which is why I suggested the vig but apparently MZ was higher priority? meh. | ||
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Half the Sky
Germany9029 Posts
On July 12 2015 13:09 WaveofShadow wrote: Actually on that note are there people who think I'm town for the same thing? I dunno if there's anything to learn on that. Wish I had TL+ so I could just 'all' the whole thread and look up my name I do. I checked your meta against NSM11 and queried the thread - both Marv and OWS said that the town read based on your meta was reasonable so I am subscribing to that at the moment. Your meta could be easily faked (I think it was BF who said that??? but don't quote me and I can see where he's coming from with that) but right now I am townreading both of those two. | ||
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WaveofShadow
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On July 12 2015 13:16 Half the Sky wrote: I do. I checked your meta against NSM11 and queried the thread - both Marv and OWS said that the town read based on your meta was reasonable so I am subscribing to that at the moment. Your meta could be easily faked (I think it was BF who said that??? but don't quote me and I can see where he's coming from with that) but right now I am townreading both of those two. I mean, marv once said he could read me on meta but I don't know that he actually can. And I dunno when OWS became the authority on me. I'm curious though, what did YOU find in my meta? I believe I had a townread on you earlier and I believe you claimed the shot on MZ (LS gun, yes?) so I kind of want to see how you went about doing that. | ||
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rsoultin
Netherlands15308 Posts
On July 12 2015 13:15 WaveofShadow wrote: I'm not sure why the last part is weird. As I remember it milo said something about what ritoky said or phrasing made him change his mind? And what do you mean 'attempting to get lynched?' Like scum trying to save the roleblocker? I can't honestly think of a scenario where I've seen that happen. eh i'd have to check, but i think that came after his read switch...as in later during the night phase when the read switch was during the day. that's how i remember it anyway well, if everyone's saying it's auto anyway, maybe? it's certainly strange to do it at all -_- i had a wifomy thought no one has mentioned, though | ||
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WaveofShadow
Canada31495 Posts
On July 12 2015 13:13 Half the Sky wrote: That was one thing in the back of my mind. MZ was one of them but so was Damdred lol. I think Vivax was too but now he's trying to go after Trfel. He had you on top lynches for awhile. Is that incongruent with what you'd expect from town Vivax? BF also had you and wanted to lynch you, this is his.....4th game I think? I don't think he's had any exposure to you. Also I'm looking into Kelsier. Ritoky and others brought up how he's fallen off but there was something else too. Related to you, he said he liked (earlier) Clarity's (scum?) read on WoS yet scumread Damdred for his push on WoS so that was something that drew some attention there. Looking through earlier his filter (doublechecking the order in which tings happened) he's saying he's scumreading you for posts where you shouldn't have TRed Clarity early on. I'm trying to piece all that together atm... I think I would expect that from town Vivax actually. No idea on BF. The fact that both Damdred and MZ did it though probably means a read into it is useless though. Unless the strength of their pushing was different I suppose...? | ||
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rsoultin
Netherlands15308 Posts
On July 12 2015 13:15 WaveofShadow wrote: lol which is why I suggested the vig but apparently MZ was higher priority? meh. to know what was going on with the d1 lynch if nothing else? yeah? sides, marv was pretty adamant and it's marv so >< lol | ||
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milo109
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WaveofShadow
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If you'd prefer me to just fuck off the rest of the day and vote you along with everyone else that's easily done too. | ||
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Half the Sky
Germany9029 Posts
On July 12 2015 13:17 WaveofShadow wrote: I'm curious though, what did YOU find in my meta? I believe I had a townread on you earlier and I believe you claimed the shot on MZ (LS gun, yes?) so I kind of want to see how you went about doing that. Yes I claimed the shot on MZ and yes LS gave me the gun N1. I assume you are asking how I came to your conclusion on your meta. Yes what led to the initial query is this (spoilered) + Show Spoiler [quotes] + On July 07 2015 09:10 Half the Sky wrote: Going through WoS and LS filters again... Those of you that know WoS, are there any general town or scum tells I should be on the lookout for? I have never played with him and reading his filter, nothing is jumping out at me as particularly scummy except for his more or less afk vote on Holyflare. I'm not sure where that vote came from tbh, can't tell if it was tone or whatnot. If you took that out, I'd probably given him a null to slight townlean for some of the posts in his filter, but if he's been around awhile, he probably could replicate that as scum. On July 07 2015 21:29 Half the Sky wrote: KSC, assuming I didn't misunderstand marv, he is saying his evidence for the clarity lynch was faulty, but in any case I have to re-read wos/clarity again, wos's posting so far objectively I can see being made as either alignment and compared to those more experienced with him I'm not entirely sure what to look for. Thing is, I know in other threads (not in other games, I've never actually played with him before) he's criticised his own town game, so I don't know if he really is a poor town player. On July 08 2015 22:08 Half the Sky wrote: Re-reading WoS filter here and in NSM 11. He's coming off WAY more aggressive (almost borderline dickish) in his mafia game, here he's extremely passive. But that's one game though, I don't know if he's had passive mafia games in the past. I know as town he criticises himself for a poor game/scumhunting so that could be something here in his favour. If I disregarded his scumgame and didn't know how his towngame was, I'd be inclined to scumread him for the passivity, he is fielding questions but not really driving or contributing much. If anyone who 1) knows him from NSM11 or another game where he's been scum or 2) has had large-game experience with him or experience where wos has had a poor town game before can comment one way or another let me know. Meta right now is the only reason I'd give WoS a townlean. That was my progression. The third quote should answer your question. | ||
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WaveofShadow
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