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WoS, clarity I had a townread on given a lot of his conversation throughout the thread, but is there any reason (his last post on you, two days ago, his filter after this post is just mostly talking about milo and then he's AFKed til Monday for RL reasons)
On July 11 2015 02:50 Clarity_nl wrote:
I'm not sold on MZ, although marv really likes his lynch so I guess maybe.
In order I would like to lynch:
Damdred
Milo
WoS
MZ
Vivax
Rsoultin <- I have to read up on her and HF. I said much earlier in game I think their d1 stuff was town on town, but that was before it happened like 5 more times. I definitely don't think it's scum on scum, HF makes me nervous as his posts have gotten more and more emotional and less and less
Need to read up on ruxxar and to a lesser extent HTS and boxerfred because they're kinda null in my mind.
I expect the entire scumteam to be in the names I put in this post.
This was just prior to Damdred's lynch and then the milo talk was during nightphase. Question is, clarity is within expectations here?
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On July 12 2015 13:35 Half the Sky wrote:WoS, clarity I had a townread on given a lot of his conversation throughout the thread, but is there any reason (his last post on you, two days ago, his filter after this post is just mostly talking about milo and then he's AFKed til Monday for RL reasons) Show nested quote +On July 11 2015 02:50 Clarity_nl wrote:
I'm not sold on MZ, although marv really likes his lynch so I guess maybe.
In order I would like to lynch:
Damdred
Milo
WoS
MZ
Vivax
Rsoultin <- I have to read up on her and HF. I said much earlier in game I think their d1 stuff was town on town, but that was before it happened like 5 more times. I definitely don't think it's scum on scum, HF makes me nervous as his posts have gotten more and more emotional and less and less
Need to read up on ruxxar and to a lesser extent HTS and boxerfred because they're kinda null in my mind.
I expect the entire scumteam to be in the names I put in this post. This was just prior to Damdred's lynch and then the milo talk was during nightphase. Question is, clarity is within expectations here?
Not sure. I gave him a super early townread ages ago but I can't say I can meta him particularly well.
I assume you mean meta again when you ask if he's 'within expectations?'
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I'm losing all motivation to play this game. It's too goddamn big at this point and it's barely day 3.
I'm really hoping milo and scott are mafia because, if they're not, I'm afraid I'm never going to find more mafia.
Do we even have more scumreads outside of those two?
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On July 12 2015 13:38 WaveofShadow wrote:Show nested quote +On July 12 2015 13:35 Half the Sky wrote:WoS, clarity I had a townread on given a lot of his conversation throughout the thread, but is there any reason (his last post on you, two days ago, his filter after this post is just mostly talking about milo and then he's AFKed til Monday for RL reasons) On July 11 2015 02:50 Clarity_nl wrote:
I'm not sold on MZ, although marv really likes his lynch so I guess maybe.
In order I would like to lynch:
Damdred
Milo
WoS
MZ
Vivax
Rsoultin <- I have to read up on her and HF. I said much earlier in game I think their d1 stuff was town on town, but that was before it happened like 5 more times. I definitely don't think it's scum on scum, HF makes me nervous as his posts have gotten more and more emotional and less and less
Need to read up on ruxxar and to a lesser extent HTS and boxerfred because they're kinda null in my mind.
I expect the entire scumteam to be in the names I put in this post. This was just prior to Damdred's lynch and then the milo talk was during nightphase. Question is, clarity is within expectations here? Not sure. I gave him a super early townread ages ago but I can't say I can meta him particularly well. I assume you mean meta again when you ask if he's 'within expectations?'
Yes, just as you answered for Vivax.
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On July 12 2015 13:41 Half the Sky wrote:Show nested quote +On July 12 2015 13:38 WaveofShadow wrote:On July 12 2015 13:35 Half the Sky wrote:WoS, clarity I had a townread on given a lot of his conversation throughout the thread, but is there any reason (his last post on you, two days ago, his filter after this post is just mostly talking about milo and then he's AFKed til Monday for RL reasons) On July 11 2015 02:50 Clarity_nl wrote:
I'm not sold on MZ, although marv really likes his lynch so I guess maybe.
In order I would like to lynch:
Damdred
Milo
WoS
MZ
Vivax
Rsoultin <- I have to read up on her and HF. I said much earlier in game I think their d1 stuff was town on town, but that was before it happened like 5 more times. I definitely don't think it's scum on scum, HF makes me nervous as his posts have gotten more and more emotional and less and less
Need to read up on ruxxar and to a lesser extent HTS and boxerfred because they're kinda null in my mind.
I expect the entire scumteam to be in the names I put in this post. This was just prior to Damdred's lynch and then the milo talk was during nightphase. Question is, clarity is within expectations here? Not sure. I gave him a super early townread ages ago but I can't say I can meta him particularly well. I assume you mean meta again when you ask if he's 'within expectations?' Yes, just as you answered for Vivax.
I've played with Vivax more often and more recently than clarity.
I don't think I'd base reads purely on meta anyway normally, but anything goes this game.
I don't even know though what you'd expect me to say about this post as it pertains to clarity's meta (or anyone else's for taht matter).
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On July 12 2015 13:40 ObiWanShinobi wrote:
I'm losing all motivation to play this game. It's too goddamn big at this point and it's barely day 3.
I'm really hoping milo and scott are mafia because, if they're not, I'm afraid I'm never going to find more mafia.
Do we even have more scumreads outside of those two?
i do xP not sure who "we" is though lol
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On July 12 2015 13:45 WaveofShadow wrote:Show nested quote +On July 12 2015 13:41 Half the Sky wrote:On July 12 2015 13:38 WaveofShadow wrote:On July 12 2015 13:35 Half the Sky wrote:WoS, clarity I had a townread on given a lot of his conversation throughout the thread, but is there any reason (his last post on you, two days ago, his filter after this post is just mostly talking about milo and then he's AFKed til Monday for RL reasons) On July 11 2015 02:50 Clarity_nl wrote:
I'm not sold on MZ, although marv really likes his lynch so I guess maybe.
In order I would like to lynch:
Damdred
Milo
WoS
MZ
Vivax
Rsoultin <- I have to read up on her and HF. I said much earlier in game I think their d1 stuff was town on town, but that was before it happened like 5 more times. I definitely don't think it's scum on scum, HF makes me nervous as his posts have gotten more and more emotional and less and less
Need to read up on ruxxar and to a lesser extent HTS and boxerfred because they're kinda null in my mind.
I expect the entire scumteam to be in the names I put in this post. This was just prior to Damdred's lynch and then the milo talk was during nightphase. Question is, clarity is within expectations here? Not sure. I gave him a super early townread ages ago but I can't say I can meta him particularly well. I assume you mean meta again when you ask if he's 'within expectations?' Yes, just as you answered for Vivax. I've played with Vivax more often and more recently than clarity. I don't think I'd base reads purely on meta anyway normally, but anything goes this game. I don't even know though what you'd expect me to say about this post as it pertains to clarity's meta (or anyone else's for taht matter).
Oh god, I'm an idiot, you just said "I can't meta him particularly well."
Disregard.
I really shouldn't be playing this game this late, but whatever...
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I'll try to start playing this game more seriously on Monday.... (no, this isn't a request to not be lynched until then, it's just information, and also a way to avoid getting modkilled for inactivity...)
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On July 12 2015 13:40 ObiWanShinobi wrote:
I'm losing all motivation to play this game. It's too goddamn big at this point and it's barely day 3.
I'm really hoping milo and scott are mafia because, if they're not, I'm afraid I'm never going to find more mafia.
Do we even have more scumreads outside of those two?
Do you have any thoughts on Kelsier possibly being scum?
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I just attempted to filter dive for probably the first time this game and just the fucks I do not give are piling way up.
Scott's filter seems pretty similar to the last student game when I skimmed it
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On July 12 2015 13:49 Half the Sky wrote:Show nested quote +On July 12 2015 13:40 ObiWanShinobi wrote:
I'm losing all motivation to play this game. It's too goddamn big at this point and it's barely day 3.
I'm really hoping milo and scott are mafia because, if they're not, I'm afraid I'm never going to find more mafia.
Do we even have more scumreads outside of those two? Do you have any thoughts on Kelsier possibly being scum?
None whatsoever.
Does anyone have a reason for calling him scum or what? I'd presume there's a reason his name is being dropped aside from the fact that he hasn't posted 2359623405263 times in the last hour or so.
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On July 12 2015 13:49 Trfel wrote:
I'll try to start playing this game more seriously on Monday.... (no, this isn't a request to not be lynched until then, it's just information, and also a way to avoid getting modkilled for inactivity...)
You're aware there's several looking to lynch you right? There's a bit of a stagnation issue trying to find scum so if you are town, we are really going to need your help. Even if it's just 30 minutes to spend on one of the below issues.
I'm not sure I want to know how many pages you are behind but a good place to start is the critical issues
1 where you see the rasputin/hf/ruxxar sphere - who's the scum in that
2 your opinion on KSC (some are reconsidering his townread)
3 lot of nulls or players not making an impact as cited by others (scott/vivax/bf/wos, etc), you're in this category obv for most if not all people
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On July 12 2015 13:49 Trfel wrote:
I'll try to start playing this game more seriously on Monday.... (no, this isn't a request to not be lynched until then, it's just information, and also a way to avoid getting modkilled for inactivity...)
well at least you're honest about it? lol ><
do you have an unserious off-the-top-of-your-head thing while you're here, at least?
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On July 12 2015 13:55 rsoultin wrote:Show nested quote +On July 12 2015 13:49 Trfel wrote:
I'll try to start playing this game more seriously on Monday.... (no, this isn't a request to not be lynched until then, it's just information, and also a way to avoid getting modkilled for inactivity...) well at least you're honest about it? lol >< do you have an unserious off-the-top-of-your-head thing while you're here, at least? We're having a European student over for the weekend. He's planning in majoring in music, and he spends like 6 hours a day at music school.....
I can't imagine going through that 
And I guess you guys are right about LightningStrike, I guess I forgot that mafia can't have a gunsmith themselves.
And I still want to lynch Holyflare.
##vote Holyflare
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On July 12 2015 13:54 Half the Sky wrote:Show nested quote +On July 12 2015 13:49 Trfel wrote:
I'll try to start playing this game more seriously on Monday.... (no, this isn't a request to not be lynched until then, it's just information, and also a way to avoid getting modkilled for inactivity...) You're aware there's several looking to lynch you right? There's a bit of a stagnation issue trying to find scum so if you are town, we are really going to need your help. Even if it's just 30 minutes to spend on one of the below issues. I'm not sure I want to know how many pages you are behind but a good place to start is the critical issues 1 where you see the rasputin/hf/ruxxar sphere - who's the scum in that 2 your opinion on KSC (some are reconsidering his townread) 3 lot of nulls or players not making an impact as cited by others (scott/vivax/bf/wos, etc), you're in this category obv for most if not all people Rsoultin is town, Holyflare is scum, ruXxar is... town lean, I guess? I'm fairly confident on the first two, anyway.
No clue about KelsierSC. I'll read his filter if I get a chance.
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On July 12 2015 13:54 ObiWanShinobi wrote:Show nested quote +On July 12 2015 13:49 Half the Sky wrote:On July 12 2015 13:40 ObiWanShinobi wrote:
I'm losing all motivation to play this game. It's too goddamn big at this point and it's barely day 3.
I'm really hoping milo and scott are mafia because, if they're not, I'm afraid I'm never going to find more mafia.
Do we even have more scumreads outside of those two? Do you have any thoughts on Kelsier possibly being scum? None whatsoever. Does anyone have a reason for calling him scum or what? I'd presume there's a reason his name is being dropped aside from the fact that he hasn't posted 2359623405263 times in the last hour or so.
I know ritoky cited him for falling off. geript mentioned him, and shit, there was a third person besides me. Can't remember whom....
I was filter diving Vivax when I noticed the KSC read on Clarity and Damdred, contradicting reads for not liking WoS but then rechecking the filter, timeline wise, I see how it's fleshed out. Nothing to reconsider there, the read for wave was not based on inactivity and Damdred's was so that makes sense for town KSC.
Right now just isolating his filter, D1 looks good, read progression on Damdred looks normal, natural. Afterwards...he's dropped off but the few questions he has asked MZ did get some info out now that we know MZ is town.
in that sense MZ did make a good point against Scott and his responses on Wave/Vivax might shed some light on Vivax.
Yeh looking in detail at his filter I'm going to have to move on. Inactivity/falling off is the only concern. Someone else mentioned that he might be getting demotivated if scum were to have lost their second player last night but clearly that didn't happen so that argument is shot.
Moving on...
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6am...I'm going to give myself 20 more minutes and then crash. I've never stayed up this late. Someone vig me please if I'm up past then. >_<
Alright, so regarding Scott...that point made by MZ whilst we're at it...
http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/mafia/488082-tl-mafia-lxxi-gaiden?page=52#1026
On July 11 2015 06:05 Meapak_Ziphh wrote:
Biggest problem for me was his actions around the BM lynch where he was so certain BM was gonna flip town but voted him anyway. If you think BM is town then vote for me. If you think we're both town with "98%" certainty then vote no lynch. No lynch isn't the end of the world if from your perspective both people or the person with the majority is town. Scott thought BM was town but let him die for the sake of having a lynch. That's a huge red flag in my book.
I'm going to start from there. I know OWS you said he was boring, but this might be an indicator "boring" might not be the only problem with him. (If someone else has already brought this up somewhere, I've missed it.)
Back to the filter diving....
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On July 12 2015 14:03 Trfel wrote:
And I still want to lynch Holyflare.
##vote Holyflare
Is your read changing at all based on anything he's posted lately? Or is it simply reinforced?
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On July 12 2015 13:40 ObiWanShinobi wrote:
I'm losing all motivation to play this game. It's too goddamn big at this point and it's barely day 3.
I'm really hoping milo and scott are mafia because, if they're not, I'm afraid I'm never going to find more mafia.
Do we even have more scumreads outside of those two?
This is a pretty bad idea - I just was filter diving on who talked about/with Damdred - You, Boxer, Trfel and Milo looked the worst, and Breshke, HalfTheSky and Vivax look much more interactive with him.
What do you think of Boxerfred?
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On July 12 2015 14:15 Half the Sky wrote:Show nested quote +On July 12 2015 14:03 Trfel wrote:
And I still want to lynch Holyflare.
##vote Holyflare Is your read changing at all based on anything he's posted lately? Or is it simply reinforced? I've been scumreading him for most of the game.
I haven't really seen what Holyflare's been doing recently, but I've seen a little of what other people said about him, which does support my scumread.
Furthermore, he wanted to lynch milo109 yesterday instead of Damdred. This makes me more reluctant to lynch milo109 and makes me really want to lynch Holyflare.
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