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I don't know what rsoultin has done since she has caught up other than repeat what we already discussed last night that milo was a bad shot and say it like its a new opinion.
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Oi I'm town though ask geript
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yeah i had him with ruxx and hf before the track and told marv what my issue with him was, but okay?
i do kinda get it cause yeah i thought i talked about him more than i did...his ls read was bugging me a lot but i got distracted lol @.@
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On July 12 2015 00:47 Holyflare wrote:
I don't know what rsoultin has done since she has caught up other than repeat what we already discussed last night that milo was a bad shot and say it like its a new opinion.
i'm withholding reads like a boss ^^
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and trying to get ruxx to talk to me but yeah...he's getting squirrely when i'm trying to be civil so we'll see how that goes
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My paraphrasing for comparison:
+ Show Spoiler +I read your interaction just fine. Let me recap my view of it, just so you can correct me if I'm missing something. 1st interaction: Starts hereRecap: HF: "Trfel you are playing like burnt out mafia" RS: "I don't think he is, but I'll find out soon for sure" HF: "I don't need your opinion RS" RS: "Trfel is town, your reads are wrong!". HF: "I don't need you go away". Mod: Interrupts. 2nd interaction: Starts hereRecap: HF: "I wanted to force Trfel to present his argument in a logical manner" RS: "HF is misrepresenting me and being a dick, I don't mind if you question Trfel" HF: (Posts quotes where you disrupted him from questioning) RS: "You were trying to shit on me!" HF: "I don't deny being a dick, but I was trying to pressure trfel to gain information" RS: "Stop questioning him so early! Let's talk about something else" (topic changed) 3rd interaction: Starts hereRecap: HF: "Trfel there's an inconsistency in your read on LS, explain why". RS: "HF, you can't read!" RS: "I want to let trfel answer for himself, but you guys are too stupid!" HF: "How is that not reading?" RS: "Trfel already explained it!" HF: "Explained it how?" RS: "HTS saw the questioning, why don't you get it?" HF: "How does that explain him changing his stance?" RS: "You are stupid HF!" (Shitfight ensues, questioning derailed) It's all pretty obvious disruption from my point of view. Once again you're derailing. I'm not going away anytime soon.
Interaction one:
+ Show Spoiler +On July 06 2015 15:22 Holyflare wrote:Show nested quote +On July 06 2015 15:19 Trfel wrote:On July 06 2015 15:17 Holyflare wrote:
Uh oh trfel Hm? It seems you are suffering from consecutivemafiarollingitis and are subsequently burnt out. I am sorry for your loss. On July 06 2015 15:25 rsoultin wrote:Show nested quote +On July 06 2015 15:22 Holyflare wrote:On July 06 2015 15:19 Trfel wrote:On July 06 2015 15:17 Holyflare wrote:
Uh oh trfel Hm? It seems you are suffering from consecutivemafiarollingitis and are subsequently burnt out. I am sorry for your loss. heh, doubt it xP but i'll be more sure soon enough On July 06 2015 15:27 Holyflare wrote:Show nested quote +On July 06 2015 15:25 rsoultin wrote:On July 06 2015 15:22 Holyflare wrote:On July 06 2015 15:19 Trfel wrote:On July 06 2015 15:17 Holyflare wrote:
Uh oh trfel Hm? It seems you are suffering from consecutivemafiarollingitis and are subsequently burnt out. I am sorry for your loss. heh, doubt it xP but i'll be more sure soon enough I don't need you. On July 06 2015 16:31 rsoultin wrote:Show nested quote +On July 06 2015 16:29 Holyflare wrote:
I'm not doing this for you. I want people to lynch him and I'm proving he's mafia. You can keep yelling tone read in the corner though. lol wow you really don't get it, do you? truffle is fully capable of making shit up from a filter...as i understand it, that's how he was so successful his last scum game xP it's actually a fucking towntell for him to be taking his time to actually read through the thread instead of just throwing shit out there but keep barking about it On July 06 2015 16:39 rsoultin wrote:Show nested quote +On July 06 2015 16:34 Holyflare wrote:
And at what point does it look like he's taking his time to read the thread at all? 0 of his points are orientated to this thread. If they are they are certainly picked out of the weirdest topics with 0 relevance. He actually has 1 point about the first post in the game.
I don't think you understand mafiarollingitis at all so you shouldn't try to comment on it being relevant that he's taking his time to shit up the thread when that's an exact symptom. Town trfel is far more calculated, opinionated and precise. ^^ i understand what you're trying to push. i'm saying it's nai for truffle at best, that you're conveniently only focusing on his best qualities (that he's proven he's capable of replicating as scum anyway, so lol ><) and yes, i'm damn good at tonereading this kid. because i actually talk to him and KNOW him outside of these mafia games, which is definitely more than can be said for you On July 06 2015 16:40 Holyflare wrote:
Yes go away then thanks. On July 06 2015 16:45 Blazinghand wrote:
I haven't seen anything over the line yet, but I can taste the direction of the wind so I'd like to remind players that I am arbitrarily and unreasonably strict about behavior guidelines. I am more aggressive than most hosts about these things, and so to be safe you better just all play nice. This is not a warning.
Interaction two:
+ Show Spoiler +On July 07 2015 02:36 Holyflare wrote:No it's not like that at all. Trfel is a consistently logical and well thought out player that posts a lot of what he thinks and is very opinionated ALWAYS. You can't possibly find a game in the database where he has ever opened like this at all. It doesn't exist. I have also played as mafia and try harded enough to experience the burnt out effect of mafiarollingitis. This looks like classic burnt out mafia rolling mafia again. That's not even the whole thing. You can see when he does actually try and start to contribute his posts ask circular questions that never meant to receive an answer that makes sense: Show nested quote +On July 06 2015 16:25 Holyflare wrote:On July 06 2015 16:18 Trfel wrote:On July 06 2015 16:17 Breshke wrote:On July 06 2015 16:15 Trfel wrote:On July 06 2015 16:14 Breshke wrote:
Trefel what are you doing? Not much, why? I ment like in the thread i thought you had an angle. But then you started asking questions so meh. I had something in mind, but it didn't actually show anything. On July 06 2015 16:14 rsoultin wrote:On July 06 2015 16:13 Trfel wrote:
Rsoultin, do you think that Holyflare is scum? not particularly xP Now, if only I knew your alignment.... As you can see here. No matter what you answered his reply would always be the same. It's a redundant circular question meant to appear contributary but actually just clutters the thread incessantly drawing us away from actual important things. It's not a thought process, it's literal questions for the sake of asking questions. On July 07 2015 02:39 Holyflare wrote:
If by forcing you to read him one way or another you mean presenting logical and well thought out facts that counter your made up heresay facts from carol that ended up not even being true then sure. On July 07 2015 02:40 rsoultin wrote:Show nested quote +On July 06 2015 15:26 Holyflare wrote:On July 06 2015 15:22 Holyflare wrote:On July 06 2015 15:19 Trfel wrote:On July 06 2015 15:17 Holyflare wrote:
Uh oh trfel Hm? It seems you are suffering from consecutivemafiarollingitis and are subsequently burnt out. I am sorry for your loss. I will never back down from this busread. It's far too similar to what I used to experience and what I would be posting in that situation. You can read the thread all you want but just get this in your head. All the effort you can muster for this second game in a row will be futile. Have fun  Show nested quote +On July 06 2015 16:00 Holyflare wrote:On July 06 2015 15:55 Trfel wrote:On July 06 2015 15:54 Holyflare wrote:Hey, your vote means nothing anyway right? What harm is it following me for a bit? I thought you were never ever going to change your read on me no matter what? Who says my vote will be changing and why would that matter? I know it's hard man. I feel your pain i really do. You're in the trolling and pointing out irrelevant crap for the sake of it part of the mafiarollingitis waiting for a scummy post or your motivation to reappear. It will happen later but it's already too late for you. Rest dear boy. Your time shall come again next game. Show nested quote +On July 06 2015 16:37 Holyflare wrote:
I also have no idea why you repeatedly jump to people's defences before they even speak for themselves. Not only does it inhibit people playing the game and getting their groove on but it constantly gives the people under pressure multiple outs and feelings of less pressure. Back off and go to bed. You're messing with things you don't understand. Show nested quote +On July 06 2015 16:44 Holyflare wrote:
What shitty logic "i know this guy best so just stop playing the game that you play where you have no information and instead of quizzing people and letting them post I'll just disregard it and blindly defend them!"
There's a reason people seemingly ignore your posts and that's the majority of the reason why. "you're 100% scum no matter what you do hahaha" "shut up bitch stop interfering with my quizzing" not only was that blatant misrepresentation of what i was doing, but it started with me saying this? like, seriously?Show nested quote +On July 06 2015 16:23 rsoultin wrote:On July 06 2015 16:21 Breshke wrote:On July 06 2015 16:19 rsoultin wrote:On July 06 2015 16:14 Breshke wrote:
But nah rsoul i like damdys read so meh
I jsut don't see how you said "keep pretending this is what my problem is" when from the initial post you didn't say anything about damdred and i later explained that i voted not for my own reason but for damdreds.
Trefel what are you doing? i missed the vote like you say early votes mean jack shit, and it was just to show how much you agreed with damdy's point. that's a pretty damn strong agreement, and wasn't the impression i got when i first read your posting. i don't get why you think damdy calling ls lazy a few pages into the game is good, certainly not that goodso basically it comes down to strength of agreement Okay i follow. You were right in your last post when you said you dont care to pursue this i jsut became really bored with it aswell. Watcha think of trefel and why isn't HF trying to get you to vote him xP could get that from reading the thread i've already said i doubt trfel is scum (tone! \o/) and hf isn't an imbecile lol >< i'm stubborn as hell Show nested quote +On July 06 2015 16:28 rsoultin wrote:
or maybe he's already forgotten how stubborn i am, after all lol ><
pretty sure that wasn't the purpose of those questions hf xP but i'm not going to speak for him pretty damn obvious to anyone with a brain that all i was saying there was i didn't agree, and he comes back with: Show nested quote +On July 06 2015 16:29 Holyflare wrote:
I'm not doing this for you. I want people to lynch him and I'm proving he's mafia. You can keep yelling tone read in the corner though. so not only is hf misrepresenting me, but he's going out of his way to be a dick about it at the same time, and if this is his idea of just "pressuring" or "quizzing" someone, it's sure not coming through in his posts i'm not usually this fucking paranoid, but after last game when hf and bugs spent d1/n1 deliberately shitting on me and trying to throw me on tilt... especially with how well we usually get along when he's town, i highly doubt this is town hf and i really don't care if the rest of you are too chicken shit to push him i'm tired of getting nkd and watching hf win again and again has trfel posted anything amazing? no. does that make him scum? no. i read him by his off-brand of humor and a few other indicators...i usually get a solid read on him within his first page of filter. i'm good at it. i don't give a damn if you question him, but hell if you're going to bully me into shutting up by slinging shit at me, hf On July 07 2015 02:42 Holyflare wrote:it's also pretty convenient you miss out these posts in your crappy narrative: Show nested quote +On July 06 2015 16:31 rsoultin wrote:On July 06 2015 16:29 Holyflare wrote:
I'm not doing this for you. I want people to lynch him and I'm proving he's mafia. You can keep yelling tone read in the corner though. lol wow you really don't get it, do you? truffle is fully capable of making shit up from a filter...as i understand it, that's how he was so successful his last scum game xP it's actually a fucking towntell for him to be taking his time to actually read through the thread instead of just throwing shit out there but keep barking about it Show nested quote +On July 06 2015 16:39 rsoultin wrote:On July 06 2015 16:34 Holyflare wrote:
And at what point does it look like he's taking his time to read the thread at all? 0 of his points are orientated to this thread. If they are they are certainly picked out of the weirdest topics with 0 relevance. He actually has 1 point about the first post in the game.
I don't think you understand mafiarollingitis at all so you shouldn't try to comment on it being relevant that he's taking his time to shit up the thread when that's an exact symptom. Town trfel is far more calculated, opinionated and precise. ^^ i understand what you're trying to push. i'm saying it's nai for truffle at best, that you're conveniently only focusing on his best qualities (that he's proven he's capable of replicating as scum anyway, so lol ><) and yes, i'm damn good at tonereading this kid. because i actually talk to him and KNOW him outside of these mafia games, which is definitely more than can be said for you On July 07 2015 02:44 rsoultin wrote:Show nested quote +On July 07 2015 02:43 Holyflare wrote:
"oh hf totally misrepresented me defending trfel because look i didn't" (if i eliminate the posts from my filter where i do!) after you started shitting on me and trying to make it look like nothing i said was worth anything On July 07 2015 02:56 Holyflare wrote:Show nested quote +On July 07 2015 02:43 rsoultin wrote:On July 07 2015 02:42 Holyflare wrote:it's also pretty convenient you miss out these posts in your crappy narrative: On July 06 2015 16:31 rsoultin wrote:On July 06 2015 16:29 Holyflare wrote:
I'm not doing this for you. I want people to lynch him and I'm proving he's mafia. You can keep yelling tone read in the corner though. lol wow you really don't get it, do you? truffle is fully capable of making shit up from a filter...as i understand it, that's how he was so successful his last scum game xP it's actually a fucking towntell for him to be taking his time to actually read through the thread instead of just throwing shit out there but keep barking about it On July 06 2015 16:39 rsoultin wrote:On July 06 2015 16:34 Holyflare wrote:
And at what point does it look like he's taking his time to read the thread at all? 0 of his points are orientated to this thread. If they are they are certainly picked out of the weirdest topics with 0 relevance. He actually has 1 point about the first post in the game.
I don't think you understand mafiarollingitis at all so you shouldn't try to comment on it being relevant that he's taking his time to shit up the thread when that's an exact symptom. Town trfel is far more calculated, opinionated and precise. ^^ i understand what you're trying to push. i'm saying it's nai for truffle at best, that you're conveniently only focusing on his best qualities (that he's proven he's capable of replicating as scum anyway, so lol ><) and yes, i'm damn good at tonereading this kid. because i actually talk to him and KNOW him outside of these mafia games, which is definitely more than can be said for you want to post your posts in between that, pretty? lol >< are you trying to be hypocritical or does it just come naturally to you? I'm not sure how my posts in between are relevant at all since i'm not defending the stance that I was a dick. I'm saying I had a purpose and you repeatedly spewed tmi or an inability to see the direction of where things were going. If your read is null and someone is pushing something then I have no idea why you'd go in the opposite direction and defend them when your read is null. On July 07 2015 03:02 rsoultin wrote:Show nested quote +On July 07 2015 02:59 Holyflare wrote:
i've read his filter and he actually plays the game which he has yet to do despite actually being here. lol >< and you started in on him before he'd even gotten a chance to settle in? of course he eventually did stuff, and i fully expect him to again this game talk about something else we're never going to agree on this
Interaction three:
+ Show Spoiler +On July 07 2015 08:46 Holyflare wrote:Show nested quote +On July 07 2015 03:55 Trfel wrote:
I think it makes sense now....
I don't scumread LightningStrike any more. Show nested quote +On July 07 2015 08:31 Trfel wrote:
I think that I want to lynch LightningStrike.
Anyone disagree? If so, please state why. nothing about LS has even changed inbetween On July 07 2015 08:49 rsoultin wrote:Show nested quote +On July 07 2015 08:46 Holyflare wrote:On July 07 2015 03:55 Trfel wrote:
I think it makes sense now....
I don't scumread LightningStrike any more. On July 07 2015 08:31 Trfel wrote:
I think that I want to lynch LightningStrike.
Anyone disagree? If so, please state why. nothing about LS has even changed inbetween ^ not reading On July 07 2015 08:52 rsoultin wrote:
-twitches-
i'm trying to let truffle answer for himself but the level of stupid/lack of basic reading comprehension -_-
i'm just gonna go do my chem work On July 07 2015 08:57 Holyflare wrote:Show nested quote +On July 07 2015 08:49 rsoultin wrote:On July 07 2015 08:46 Holyflare wrote:On July 07 2015 03:55 Trfel wrote:
I think it makes sense now....
I don't scumread LightningStrike any more. On July 07 2015 08:31 Trfel wrote:
I think that I want to lynch LightningStrike.
Anyone disagree? If so, please state why. nothing about LS has even changed inbetween ^ not reading like how on earth is that not reading? On July 07 2015 08:59 rsoultin wrote:Show nested quote +On July 07 2015 08:57 Holyflare wrote:On July 07 2015 08:49 rsoultin wrote:On July 07 2015 08:46 Holyflare wrote:On July 07 2015 03:55 Trfel wrote:
I think it makes sense now....
I don't scumread LightningStrike any more. On July 07 2015 08:31 Trfel wrote:
I think that I want to lynch LightningStrike.
Anyone disagree? If so, please state why. nothing about LS has even changed inbetween ^ not reading like how on earth is that not reading? -_- he already fucking explained it On July 07 2015 09:00 Holyflare wrote:Show nested quote +On July 07 2015 08:55 Trfel wrote:On July 07 2015 08:51 Half the Sky wrote:
Going to check the timestamps to see where it came from for myself, although Trfel really needs to explain himself at this point, what changed his read? Sorry, it's not something I'm going to explain. And there is much more to my LightningStrike scumread than his latest few posts. yeh he fucking clearly explained it On July 07 2015 09:01 rsoultin wrote:Show nested quote +On July 07 2015 08:43 Trfel wrote:On July 07 2015 08:37 Damdred wrote:On July 07 2015 08:36 Trfel wrote:On July 07 2015 08:32 Damdred wrote:I don't disagree with lynching LS. However On July 07 2015 08:31 Half the Sky wrote:On July 07 2015 08:27 Trfel wrote:
LightningStrike, hypothetically, what if someone counterclaimed ritoky? What would you think then? Do you have an opinion on ritoky independent of any claims? I don't have a read on him. Hes probably been the most talked about person for the last.... 5-10 pages maybe? claim and all, you have no opinions but quizzed ls about his? I wasn't asking to find out about ritoky, I don't really care about ritoky. I was asking to learn more about LightningStrike. hts saw the questioning why are you so blind, hf? On July 07 2015 09:03 Holyflare wrote:Show nested quote +On July 07 2015 09:01 rsoultin wrote:On July 07 2015 08:43 Trfel wrote:On July 07 2015 08:37 Damdred wrote:On July 07 2015 08:36 Trfel wrote:On July 07 2015 08:32 Damdred wrote:I don't disagree with lynching LS. However On July 07 2015 08:31 Half the Sky wrote:On July 07 2015 08:27 Trfel wrote:
LightningStrike, hypothetically, what if someone counterclaimed ritoky? What would you think then? Do you have an opinion on ritoky independent of any claims? I don't have a read on him. Hes probably been the most talked about person for the last.... 5-10 pages maybe? claim and all, you have no opinions but quizzed ls about his? I wasn't asking to find out about ritoky, I don't really care about ritoky. I was asking to learn more about LightningStrike. hts saw the questioning why are you so blind, hf? QUESTIONING QUESTIONING what in his answers lead to him reversing his earlier stance why is he asking lightningstrike questions when he had the stance of not wanting to lynch him none of those are answers On July 07 2015 09:07 rsoultin wrote:Show nested quote +On July 07 2015 09:03 Holyflare wrote:On July 07 2015 09:01 rsoultin wrote:On July 07 2015 08:43 Trfel wrote:On July 07 2015 08:37 Damdred wrote:On July 07 2015 08:36 Trfel wrote:On July 07 2015 08:32 Damdred wrote:I don't disagree with lynching LS. However On July 07 2015 08:31 Half the Sky wrote:On July 07 2015 08:27 Trfel wrote:
LightningStrike, hypothetically, what if someone counterclaimed ritoky? What would you think then? Do you have an opinion on ritoky independent of any claims? I don't have a read on him. Hes probably been the most talked about person for the last.... 5-10 pages maybe? claim and all, you have no opinions but quizzed ls about his? I wasn't asking to find out about ritoky, I don't really care about ritoky. I was asking to learn more about LightningStrike. hts saw the questioning why are you so blind, hf? QUESTIONING QUESTIONING what in his answers lead to him reversing his earlier stance why is he asking lightningstrike questions when he had the stance of not wanting to lynch him none of those are answers -_- i have nothing productive to say to you if you can't connect that something in the response to those questions prompted that comment, whatever. at least acknowledge that the REAL problem is truffle isn't explaining where his head's at instead of trying to sell that his read changed for NO REASON with NO PROMPTING like seriously. the last time you pulled this shit it was with gb and claiming that the only reason he had to scumread...i don't even remember who it was anymore lol bf?...was because of one post simply because you arbitrarily decided to throw out the other reasons out before i start fighting with you again -_- At this point shitfighting begins
There's more inbetween there, but this is the essence of it.
This is what I view as disruption/deflection off trfel.
I want to know why you did this.
Not why you think trfel is town, but why you won't let HF push on him.
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Just saying a question that has like no good answer is a shit question.
What could rsoul answer here to make you townreads her there is literally nothing. You have obviously made your mind up so ignore her and convince other that it's scummy because you won't convince her
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okay, first interaction, you cut out the part where i left off that interaction completely and was talking to bresh while hf was still talking to truffle...i.e. NOT being disruptive and letting them do their thing
and the actual post i was responding to when i said he didn't get it...the one where he basically told me to shut up and scream into a corner because he wasn't talking to me...like i can quote it for you but you had to have JUST read it if you're pulling these quotes. do i need to show you?
also you left off what the warning was actually for but i know this is about me and not hf so i'll disregard that
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On July 12 2015 00:56 Breshke wrote:
Just saying a question that has like no good answer is a shit question.
What could rsoul answer here to make you townreads her there is literally nothing. You have obviously made your mind up so ignore her and convince other that it's scummy because you won't convince her
i asked him to
i want to see if he's cutting things out for reasons that make sense or just trying to make me look bad bresh lol >< cause when i saw his post initially that's what it looked like
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not t sure what you were slash are trying to get out of that then. Let's still just kill Scott after milo that sounds like a plan.
It snowed today guys at mount lofty. It never snows here like actually never. Shits fucked
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second one i can kinda see actually lol >< our posts were four minutes apart and that's what i was writing when i returned to the thread? like i was literally writing it while he was posting so it wasn't in response to his post at all? but i can see where you think they're related
i was trying to say hf didn't really care about truffle's alignment...it wasn't a defense of truffle in any way
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On July 12 2015 01:02 Breshke wrote:
not t sure what you were slash are trying to get out of that then. Let's still just kill Scott after milo that sounds like a plan.
It snowed today guys at mount lofty. It never snows here like actually never. Shits fucked
lol >< i wish it would snow i love snow
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On July 12 2015 01:04 rsoultin wrote:Show nested quote +On July 12 2015 01:02 Breshke wrote:
not t sure what you were slash are trying to get out of that then. Let's still just kill Scott after milo that sounds like a plan.
It snowed today guys at mount lofty. It never snows here like actually never. Shits fucked lol >< i wish it would snow i love snow
I have never seen real snow ever
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The thing is rsoul, that I can't see any town motivation for doing what you did.
I might attribute it to just being a thing between you and HF that just sparks into a shitfight, but in my eyes it still looks anti-town and scummy.
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and the third was because truffle had said he was about to post a case, and i told him to read for that reason...
so like...how was i being obstructive?
(i kinda did explain all of this already in that big post, ruxx -_-)
like is there a misunderstanding somewhere or what?
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I think I've made everything I wanted to about that case clear though. I don't have anything more to say about it.
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On July 12 2015 01:09 ruXxar wrote:
The thing is rsoul, that I can't see any town motivation for doing what you did.
I might attribute it to just being a thing between you and HF that just sparks into a shitfight, but in my eyes it still looks anti-town and scummy.
what's the scum motivation for it?
what is scummy about me reacting to him putting me down in that way? or making a case on him later? or wanting to give truffle time to write what he already said he was writing? (that last i admit i could have approached better but i felt like hf was just trying to ping out whatever he could find and was being obstructive toward trfel who already said he was writing something up)
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i think i've gotten all i needed to out of this. sorry for wasting everyone's time ><
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On July 12 2015 01:09 ruXxar wrote:
The thing is rsoul, that I can't see any town motivation for doing what you did.
I might attribute it to just being a thing between you and HF that just sparks into a shitfight, but in my eyes it still looks anti-town and scummy.
just to clarify - are you able to make the distinction between anti-town and scummy?
townies do bad shit and anti-town shit ALL the time.
rsoultin is known to be pretty argumentative at the best of times
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On July 12 2015 01:10 rsoultin wrote:
and the third was because truffle had said he was about to post a case, and i told him to read for that reason...
so like...how was i being obstructive?
(i kinda did explain all of this already in that big post, ruxx -_-)
like is there a misunderstanding somewhere or what?
Well, when you start calling out people for not understanding something, that's pretty much inviting them into a shitfight, which will derail their attention from what they were actually trying to accomplish.
It also let's pressure off trfel since he doesn't feel the need to answer the question when he's busy with you.
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