btw ruxx, you no longer care about asking me the same question over and over, or did you finally actually read what i've been saying all along? xP
I've just come to terms with that I won't get a clear answer out of you regarding trfel. Sorry, no offense.
not offended
what don't you understand, though? i thought i explained it pretty damn clearly, frankly
I expressed my thoughts in this post I don't understand the motivation for disrupting people trying to question Trfel. I understand that HF probably was a bit mean, but you should let the mod handle that. You're not Trfel's mommy. He can take care of himself.
demonstrate where i disrupted people trying to question trfel, because i didn't xP
btw ruxx, you no longer care about asking me the same question over and over, or did you finally actually read what i've been saying all along? xP
I've just come to terms with that I won't get a clear answer out of you regarding trfel. Sorry, no offense.
not offended
what don't you understand, though? i thought i explained it pretty damn clearly, frankly
I expressed my thoughts in this post I don't understand the motivation for disrupting people trying to question Trfel. I understand that HF probably was a bit mean, but you should let the mod handle that. You're not Trfel's mommy. He can take care of himself.
demonstrate where i disrupted people trying to question trfel, because i didn't xP
uh....
you spent the whole of d1 arguing with HF who was just trying to push trfel
btw ruxx, you no longer care about asking me the same question over and over, or did you finally actually read what i've been saying all along? xP
I've just come to terms with that I won't get a clear answer out of you regarding trfel. Sorry, no offense.
not offended
what don't you understand, though? i thought i explained it pretty damn clearly, frankly
I expressed my thoughts in this post I don't understand the motivation for disrupting people trying to question Trfel. I understand that HF probably was a bit mean, but you should let the mod handle that. You're not Trfel's mommy. He can take care of himself.
demonstrate where i disrupted people trying to question trfel, because i didn't xP
HF, was putting pressure on trfel. And well founded pressure too with the way trfel has been playing this game. Putting pressure on people is a good thing, it's an excellent tool for extracting information. Yet you seem to have a problem with people putting pressure on trfel, and you guard him like a watch dog.
The issue is not that you came with your opinion on trfel, that is completely fine and legit. The problem is that you acted irrationally and actively tried to disrupt and deny us information out of Trfel. When someone observes a contradiction or inconsistency in what people say and they question them about it, the most anti-town thing you can do is try to interject and derail the questioning, which is exactly what you did.
Tell me this, why are you defending Trfel when he is perfectly capable of defending himself? Furthermore, he might be mafia, so why are you so adamant about defending someone without knowing their alignment? Your goal as town should be to get as much information out of anyone as to form a basis of judgement on. Blindly defending people as town is an incredibly bad way to play.
Combined with your other actions this game, it leaves a bad taste in my mouth.
do you even begin to realize how difficult it is for me to even bother finish reading this pile of shit when it's clear you didn't bother to actually READ our interaction?
go away, or actually fact check your own fucking claims
i've answered all your leading questions already
i've formed my judgment on truffle and until i actually see anything to indicate otherwise, you can bite me
i was right on gb. i was right on damdy. i was right on bugs. i was right on hf. i was right on you. and i was right on wave and oats. but instead of CONSIDERING after seeing my play last game and losing the game while ignoring my advice in your newbie, that i might actually have a good fucking toneread on truffle you try to paint it as me denying information?
lol ><
I read your interaction just fine. Let me recap my view of it, just so you can correct me if I'm missing something.
1st interaction: Starts here Recap: HF: "Trfel you are playing like burnt out mafia" RS: "I don't think he is, but I'll find out soon for sure" HF: "I don't need your opinion RS" RS: "Trfel is town, your reads are wrong!". HF: "I don't need you go away". Mod: Interrupts.
2nd interaction: Starts here Recap: HF: "I wanted to force Trfel to present his argument in a logical manner" RS: "HF is misrepresenting me and being a dick, I don't mind if you question Trfel" HF: (Posts quotes where you disrupted him from questioning) RS: "You were trying to shit on me!" HF: "I don't deny being a dick, but I was trying to pressure trfel to gain information" RS: "Stop questioning him so early! Let's talk about something else" (topic changed)
3rd interaction: Starts here Recap: HF: "Trfel there's an inconsistency in your read on LS, explain why". RS: "HF, you can't read!" RS: "I want to let trfel answer for himself, but you guys are too stupid!" HF: "How is that not reading?" RS: "Trfel already explained it!" HF: "Explained it how?" RS: "HTS saw the questioning, why don't you get it?" HF: "How does that explain him changing his stance?" RS: "You are stupid HF!" (Shitfight ensues, questioning derailed)
It's all pretty obvious disruption from my point of view. Once again you're derailing.
btw ruxx, you no longer care about asking me the same question over and over, or did you finally actually read what i've been saying all along? xP
I've just come to terms with that I won't get a clear answer out of you regarding trfel. Sorry, no offense.
not offended
what don't you understand, though? i thought i explained it pretty damn clearly, frankly
I expressed my thoughts in this post I don't understand the motivation for disrupting people trying to question Trfel. I understand that HF probably was a bit mean, but you should let the mod handle that. You're not Trfel's mommy. He can take care of himself.
demonstrate where i disrupted people trying to question trfel, because i didn't xP
uh....
you spent the whole of d1 arguing with HF who was just trying to push trfel
i was trying to push hf -_- if you want to call it deflection and assume we're both scum, that's one thing
btw ruxx, you no longer care about asking me the same question over and over, or did you finally actually read what i've been saying all along? xP
I've just come to terms with that I won't get a clear answer out of you regarding trfel. Sorry, no offense.
not offended
what don't you understand, though? i thought i explained it pretty damn clearly, frankly
I expressed my thoughts in this post I don't understand the motivation for disrupting people trying to question Trfel. I understand that HF probably was a bit mean, but you should let the mod handle that. You're not Trfel's mommy. He can take care of himself.
demonstrate where i disrupted people trying to question trfel, because i didn't xP
HF, was putting pressure on trfel. And well founded pressure too with the way trfel has been playing this game. Putting pressure on people is a good thing, it's an excellent tool for extracting information. Yet you seem to have a problem with people putting pressure on trfel, and you guard him like a watch dog.
The issue is not that you came with your opinion on trfel, that is completely fine and legit. The problem is that you acted irrationally and actively tried to disrupt and deny us information out of Trfel. When someone observes a contradiction or inconsistency in what people say and they question them about it, the most anti-town thing you can do is try to interject and derail the questioning, which is exactly what you did.
Tell me this, why are you defending Trfel when he is perfectly capable of defending himself? Furthermore, he might be mafia, so why are you so adamant about defending someone without knowing their alignment? Your goal as town should be to get as much information out of anyone as to form a basis of judgement on. Blindly defending people as town is an incredibly bad way to play.
Combined with your other actions this game, it leaves a bad taste in my mouth.
do you even begin to realize how difficult it is for me to even bother finish reading this pile of shit when it's clear you didn't bother to actually READ our interaction?
go away, or actually fact check your own fucking claims
i've answered all your leading questions already
i've formed my judgment on truffle and until i actually see anything to indicate otherwise, you can bite me
i was right on gb. i was right on damdy. i was right on bugs. i was right on hf. i was right on you. and i was right on wave and oats. but instead of CONSIDERING after seeing my play last game and losing the game while ignoring my advice in your newbie, that i might actually have a good fucking toneread on truffle you try to paint it as me denying information?
lol ><
I read your interaction just fine. Let me recap my view of it, just so you can correct me if I'm missing something.
1st interaction: Starts here Recap: HF: "Trfel you are playing like burnt out mafia" RS: "I don't think he is, but I'll find out soon for sure" HF: "I don't need your opinion RS" RS: "Trfel is town, your reads are wrong!". HF: "I don't need you go away". Mod: Interrupts.
2nd interaction: Starts here Recap: HF: "I wanted to force Trfel to present his argument in a logical manner" RS: "HF is misrepresenting me and being a dick, I don't mind if you question Trfel" HF: (Posts quotes where you disrupted him from questioning) RS: "You were trying to shit on me!" HF: "I don't deny being a dick, but I was trying to pressure trfel to gain information" RS: "Stop questioning him so early! Let's talk about something else" (topic changed)
3rd interaction: Starts here Recap: HF: "Trfel there's an inconsistency in your read on LS, explain why". RS: "HF, you can't read!" RS: "I want to let trfel answer for himself, but you guys are too stupid!" HF: "How is that not reading?" RS: "Trfel already explained it!" HF: "Explained it how?" RS: "HTS saw the questioning, why don't you get it?" HF: "How does that explain him changing his stance?" RS: "You are stupid HF!" (Shitfight ensues, questioning derailed)
It's all pretty obvious disruption from my point of view. Once again you're derailing.
I'm not going away anytime soon.
i am not going to go line-by-line with this post and actually point out all the things you're misrepresenting or leaving out, ruxxar. it's not worth my time, and it insults your intelligence
i want you to quote actual posts where i was actively disrupting people getting a read on trfel not repost a made-up dialogue
On July 11 2015 23:53 Vivax wrote: Besides if that's so relevant to you, you might as well rather talk about Trfel being mafia and why
I want to talk to trfel, but he's seemingly gone underground hiding somewhere. I haven't seen him in forever. I mean, he basically asked for people to talk to him, yet he's never here.
On July 11 2015 23:54 Harkon wrote: Why are you discussing this shit again? Does anyone think it will be more productive than the last 10 times?
That's why I said I'd come to terms with not getting a clear answer. I don't want to shit up the thread again.
if you can keep a straight head i can? marv's right. i think you're scum right now because of how you've approached me. but maybe i'm just not seeing what you're getting at? so i want you to explain to me which posts made you think i was disrupting people from getting reads on trfel
btw ruxx, you no longer care about asking me the same question over and over, or did you finally actually read what i've been saying all along? xP
I've just come to terms with that I won't get a clear answer out of you regarding trfel. Sorry, no offense.
not offended
what don't you understand, though? i thought i explained it pretty damn clearly, frankly
I expressed my thoughts in this post I don't understand the motivation for disrupting people trying to question Trfel. I understand that HF probably was a bit mean, but you should let the mod handle that. You're not Trfel's mommy. He can take care of himself.
demonstrate where i disrupted people trying to question trfel, because i didn't xP
This post:
On July 08 2015 08:50 ruXxar wrote:
On July 08 2015 07:52 rsoultin wrote:
On July 08 2015 07:44 ruXxar wrote: @rsoultin.
HF, was putting pressure on trfel. And well founded pressure too with the way trfel has been playing this game. Putting pressure on people is a good thing, it's an excellent tool for extracting information. Yet you seem to have a problem with people putting pressure on trfel, and you guard him like a watch dog.
The issue is not that you came with your opinion on trfel, that is completely fine and legit. The problem is that you acted irrationally and actively tried to disrupt and deny us information out of Trfel. When someone observes a contradiction or inconsistency in what people say and they question them about it, the most anti-town thing you can do is try to interject and derail the questioning, which is exactly what you did.
Tell me this, why are you defending Trfel when he is perfectly capable of defending himself? Furthermore, he might be mafia, so why are you so adamant about defending someone without knowing their alignment? Your goal as town should be to get as much information out of anyone as to form a basis of judgement on. Blindly defending people as town is an incredibly bad way to play.
Combined with your other actions this game, it leaves a bad taste in my mouth.
do you even begin to realize how difficult it is for me to even bother finish reading this pile of shit when it's clear you didn't bother to actually READ our interaction?
go away, or actually fact check your own fucking claims
i've answered all your leading questions already
i've formed my judgment on truffle and until i actually see anything to indicate otherwise, you can bite me
i was right on gb. i was right on damdy. i was right on bugs. i was right on hf. i was right on you. and i was right on wave and oats. but instead of CONSIDERING after seeing my play last game and losing the game while ignoring my advice in your newbie, that i might actually have a good fucking toneread on truffle you try to paint it as me denying information?
lol ><
I read your interaction just fine. Let me recap my view of it, just so you can correct me if I'm missing something.
1st interaction: Starts here Recap: HF: "Trfel you are playing like burnt out mafia" RS: "I don't think he is, but I'll find out soon for sure" HF: "I don't need your opinion RS" RS: "Trfel is town, your reads are wrong!". HF: "I don't need you go away". Mod: Interrupts.
2nd interaction: Starts here Recap: HF: "I wanted to force Trfel to present his argument in a logical manner" RS: "HF is misrepresenting me and being a dick, I don't mind if you question Trfel" HF: (Posts quotes where you disrupted him from questioning) RS: "You were trying to shit on me!" HF: "I don't deny being a dick, but I was trying to pressure trfel to gain information" RS: "Stop questioning him so early! Let's talk about something else" (topic changed)
3rd interaction: Starts here Recap: HF: "Trfel there's an inconsistency in your read on LS, explain why". RS: "HF, you can't read!" RS: "I want to let trfel answer for himself, but you guys are too stupid!" HF: "How is that not reading?" RS: "Trfel already explained it!" HF: "Explained it how?" RS: "HTS saw the questioning, why don't you get it?" HF: "How does that explain him changing his stance?" RS: "You are stupid HF!" (Shitfight ensues, questioning derailed)
It's all pretty obvious disruption from my point of view. Once again you're derailing.
I'm not going away anytime soon.
i am not going to go line-by-line with this post and actually point out all the things you're misrepresenting or leaving out, ruxxar. it's not worth my time, and it insults your intelligence
i want you to quote actual posts where i was actively disrupting people getting a read on trfel not repost a made-up dialogue
That dialogue is based on real quotes. I can post the quotes I made the recap from instead if that makes you happy.
btw ruxx, you no longer care about asking me the same question over and over, or did you finally actually read what i've been saying all along? xP
I've just come to terms with that I won't get a clear answer out of you regarding trfel. Sorry, no offense.
not offended
what don't you understand, though? i thought i explained it pretty damn clearly, frankly
I expressed my thoughts in this post I don't understand the motivation for disrupting people trying to question Trfel. I understand that HF probably was a bit mean, but you should let the mod handle that. You're not Trfel's mommy. He can take care of himself.
demonstrate where i disrupted people trying to question trfel, because i didn't xP
This post:
On July 08 2015 08:50 ruXxar wrote:
On July 08 2015 07:52 rsoultin wrote:
On July 08 2015 07:44 ruXxar wrote: @rsoultin.
HF, was putting pressure on trfel. And well founded pressure too with the way trfel has been playing this game. Putting pressure on people is a good thing, it's an excellent tool for extracting information. Yet you seem to have a problem with people putting pressure on trfel, and you guard him like a watch dog.
The issue is not that you came with your opinion on trfel, that is completely fine and legit. The problem is that you acted irrationally and actively tried to disrupt and deny us information out of Trfel. When someone observes a contradiction or inconsistency in what people say and they question them about it, the most anti-town thing you can do is try to interject and derail the questioning, which is exactly what you did.
Tell me this, why are you defending Trfel when he is perfectly capable of defending himself? Furthermore, he might be mafia, so why are you so adamant about defending someone without knowing their alignment? Your goal as town should be to get as much information out of anyone as to form a basis of judgement on. Blindly defending people as town is an incredibly bad way to play.
Combined with your other actions this game, it leaves a bad taste in my mouth.
do you even begin to realize how difficult it is for me to even bother finish reading this pile of shit when it's clear you didn't bother to actually READ our interaction?
go away, or actually fact check your own fucking claims
i've answered all your leading questions already
i've formed my judgment on truffle and until i actually see anything to indicate otherwise, you can bite me
i was right on gb. i was right on damdy. i was right on bugs. i was right on hf. i was right on you. and i was right on wave and oats. but instead of CONSIDERING after seeing my play last game and losing the game while ignoring my advice in your newbie, that i might actually have a good fucking toneread on truffle you try to paint it as me denying information?
lol ><
I read your interaction just fine. Let me recap my view of it, just so you can correct me if I'm missing something.
1st interaction: Starts here Recap: HF: "Trfel you are playing like burnt out mafia" RS: "I don't think he is, but I'll find out soon for sure" HF: "I don't need your opinion RS" RS: "Trfel is town, your reads are wrong!". HF: "I don't need you go away". Mod: Interrupts.
2nd interaction: Starts here Recap: HF: "I wanted to force Trfel to present his argument in a logical manner" RS: "HF is misrepresenting me and being a dick, I don't mind if you question Trfel" HF: (Posts quotes where you disrupted him from questioning) RS: "You were trying to shit on me!" HF: "I don't deny being a dick, but I was trying to pressure trfel to gain information" RS: "Stop questioning him so early! Let's talk about something else" (topic changed)
3rd interaction: Starts here Recap: HF: "Trfel there's an inconsistency in your read on LS, explain why". RS: "HF, you can't read!" RS: "I want to let trfel answer for himself, but you guys are too stupid!" HF: "How is that not reading?" RS: "Trfel already explained it!" HF: "Explained it how?" RS: "HTS saw the questioning, why don't you get it?" HF: "How does that explain him changing his stance?" RS: "You are stupid HF!" (Shitfight ensues, questioning derailed)
It's all pretty obvious disruption from my point of view. Once again you're derailing.
I'm not going away anytime soon.
i am not going to go line-by-line with this post and actually point out all the things you're misrepresenting or leaving out, ruxxar. it's not worth my time, and it insults your intelligence
i want you to quote actual posts where i was actively disrupting people getting a read on trfel not repost a made-up dialogue
That dialogue is based on real quotes. I can post the quotes I made the recap from instead if that makes you happy.
you think the entire dialogues were me disrupting people from getting reads on trfel?
so what don't you agree with in that big post i wrote about them? like i said, i thought i was very clear, but you still kept asking. so what don't you understand?
go for it. if you show the quotes where you think she's doing what you say, and rso is in a reasonably good mood and can answer what you're saying, i'd like that
On July 11 2015 23:54 Harkon wrote: Why are you discussing this shit again? Does anyone think it will be more productive than the last 10 times?
That's why I said I'd come to terms with not getting a clear answer. I don't want to shit up the thread again.
if you can keep a straight head i can? marv's right. i think you're scum right now because of how you've approached me. but maybe i'm just not seeing what you're getting at? so i want you to explain to me which posts made you think i was disrupting people from getting reads on trfel
This is what I'll do. Since you think the paraphrasing is misrepresenting what you did, I'll just put together the quotes instead. Give me some time.
EPT
