On July 12 2015 01:10 rsoultin wrote: and the third was because truffle had said he was about to post a case, and i told him to read for that reason...
so like...how was i being obstructive?
(i kinda did explain all of this already in that big post, ruxx -_-)
like is there a misunderstanding somewhere or what?
Well, when you start calling out people for not understanding something, that's pretty much inviting them into a shitfight, which will derail their attention from what they were actually trying to accomplish.
It also let's pressure off trfel since he doesn't feel the need to answer the question when he's busy with you.
So what exactly are you saying? Rsoultin is scum with Trfel?
On July 12 2015 01:10 rsoultin wrote: and the third was because truffle had said he was about to post a case, and i told him to read for that reason...
so like...how was i being obstructive?
(i kinda did explain all of this already in that big post, ruxx -_-)
like is there a misunderstanding somewhere or what?
Well, when you start calling out people for not understanding something, that's pretty much inviting them into a shitfight, which will derail their attention from what they were actually trying to accomplish.
It also let's pressure off trfel since he doesn't feel the need to answer the question when he's busy with you.
xP this is forum mafia. you just answer the question again/or ignore it. most of us will keep asking. hf certainly will
there's no possible way if hf is town and trfel and i are scum that me saying he should read the thread is going to make him forget he was trying to get trfel to answer something if that's what he was doing lolol ><
and yes, i call people out for not understanding shit all the time. i did it last game. so? like if anything, that's a personality flaw. or did you not read the game you were scum in?
On July 12 2015 01:09 ruXxar wrote: The thing is rsoul, that I can't see any town motivation for doing what you did. I might attribute it to just being a thing between you and HF that just sparks into a shitfight, but in my eyes it still looks anti-town and scummy.
just to clarify - are you able to make the distinction between anti-town and scummy?
townies do bad shit and anti-town shit ALL the time.
rsoultin is known to be pretty argumentative at the best of times
I'd say a good example of anti-town is LS outing his blue roles. But since he's known to do that in his meta, it can't be viewed as directly scummy.
I tried to come up with some reasons for what rsoultin was doing, and I came up with these:
1 rsoul is town, she and trfel are such close friends that she feels the need to defend him. She thinks her reads on him are correct and that his alignment should not be determined further.(anti-town)
2 rsoul is mafia defending/deflecting off town trfel because she is certain of his alignment and she knows he's an easy target. If he flips she will look good for defending him.(scummy)
3 rsoul is mafia together with trfel and deflecting off her partner .(scummy)
i dunnae, ruxx...it's hard to tell whether you're just tunneled town or the reason your responses are so generic and stubborn is that you don't actually have a good reason...i'll review you filter again pretending that all the interactions with me never happened before EoN
On July 12 2015 01:09 ruXxar wrote: The thing is rsoul, that I can't see any town motivation for doing what you did. I might attribute it to just being a thing between you and HF that just sparks into a shitfight, but in my eyes it still looks anti-town and scummy.
just to clarify - are you able to make the distinction between anti-town and scummy?
townies do bad shit and anti-town shit ALL the time.
rsoultin is known to be pretty argumentative at the best of times
I'd say a good example of anti-town is LS outing his blue roles. But since he's known to do that in his meta, it can't be viewed as directly scummy.
I tried to come up with some reasons for what rsoultin was doing, and I came up with these:
1 rsoul is town, she and trfel are such close friends that she feels the need to defend him. She thinks her reads on him are correct and that his alignment should not be determined further.(anti-town)
2 rsoul is mafia defending/deflecting off town trfel because she is certain of his alignment and she knows he's an easy target. If he flips she will look good for defending him.(scummy)
3 rsoul is mafia together with trfel and deflecting off her partner .(scummy)
Tfrel and rsoul been playing together since November and they are good friends lol.(She talked to me in the past how she had to help Tfrel out on stuff through skype and stuff lol)
On July 12 2015 01:09 ruXxar wrote: The thing is rsoul, that I can't see any town motivation for doing what you did. I might attribute it to just being a thing between you and HF that just sparks into a shitfight, but in my eyes it still looks anti-town and scummy.
just to clarify - are you able to make the distinction between anti-town and scummy?
townies do bad shit and anti-town shit ALL the time.
rsoultin is known to be pretty argumentative at the best of times
I'd say a good example of anti-town is LS outing his blue roles. But since he's known to do that in his meta, it can't be viewed as directly scummy.
I tried to come up with some reasons for what rsoultin was doing, and I came up with these:
1 rsoul is town, she and trfel are such close friends that she feels the need to defend him. She thinks her reads on him are correct and that his alignment should not be determined further.(anti-town)
2 rsoul is mafia defending/deflecting off town trfel because she is certain of his alignment and she knows he's an easy target. If he flips she will look good for defending him.(scummy)
3 rsoul is mafia together with trfel and deflecting off her partner .(scummy)
why are you still saying i was defending him? -_-
meh, it's like talking to a wall
i was stating my opinion not forcing others to adopt it -_-, and the second one is laughable if you knew my track record with truffle...i don't need to know his alignment to know his alignment
literally the only world of the three that you could possibly believe is the third, and that assumes i'm doing something ridiculously stupid hoping it trfel ever flips people will clear me on stupidity, cause i'm not a moron -_-
On July 12 2015 01:10 rsoultin wrote: and the third was because truffle had said he was about to post a case, and i told him to read for that reason...
so like...how was i being obstructive?
(i kinda did explain all of this already in that big post, ruxx -_-)
like is there a misunderstanding somewhere or what?
Well, when you start calling out people for not understanding something, that's pretty much inviting them into a shitfight, which will derail their attention from what they were actually trying to accomplish.
It also let's pressure off trfel since he doesn't feel the need to answer the question when he's busy with you.
So what exactly are you saying? Rsoultin is scum with Trfel?
I think either she's scum alone or she's scum with trfel. I read them both as scummy independently of each other.
why is ls cleared for his meta but meta you witnessed in our last game...me being stubborn on tonereads...not apply to this one? i know i've asked this before
like you literally could have said the same thing about me and gb if gb wasn't actually the cop that game. or me and damdred
On July 12 2015 01:32 rsoultin wrote: oh didn't see that first comment
why is ls cleared for his meta but meta you witnessed in our last game...me being stubborn on tonereads...not apply to this one? i know i've asked this before
like you literally could have said the same thing about me and gb if gb wasn't actually the cop that game. or me and damdred
It's not the fact that you're have a tone read on Trfel, but the fact that you were actively deflecting pressure off him.
Also I want to make it clear that it's not just this one incident I'm scum reading you for. There's multiple things in your play that I didn't like, which I've pointed out before.
On July 12 2015 01:32 rsoultin wrote: oh didn't see that first comment
why is ls cleared for his meta but meta you witnessed in our last game...me being stubborn on tonereads...not apply to this one? i know i've asked this before
like you literally could have said the same thing about me and gb if gb wasn't actually the cop that game. or me and damdred
It's not the fact that you're have a tone read on Trfel, but the fact that you were actively deflecting pressure off him.
again, this could be said of what i did in himalayas with gb? which is why this confuses me so much that you think this alone makes me "scummy"?
i've done it with trfel before...saying hey if y'all want to lynch him you can, he's playing bad, but he's town and i won't help
<- noir
it's how i play. the play may be bad, but since my reads aren't always just about how someone is objectively playing, that's about the only way that i can express them -shrugs-
you should look up my past games with trfel, like i told you before
noir student v mafia down under 2 newbie mini mafia lxi
and see how i treat trfel in games. i know i have a good read on him -shrugs- it is what it is...was town in all those games btw xP
On July 12 2015 01:44 ruXxar wrote: Also I want to make it clear that it's not just this one incident I'm scum reading you for. There's multiple things in your play that I didn't like, which I've pointed out before.
yes i know xP emoticons xP xP xP
and mostly this lol
i remember the post because i responded to it near EoD 1
So I'm at page 267 and I see quite a bit of my name throwing around - notably by OWS. The thing that I don't get is keeps thinking i'm mafia since I'm dull and boring - and I even asked him to make a case on me that I could respond to and that has not happened - just more of the hints at it to save for later? It makes me a bit suspicious.
I really hope LS didn't derp and give a gun to who I think he did.... :/
Geript has a magic read on WoS and for now I'm going to go with this. Ruxxar has been playing so differently then his last game and decent thoughts I'm going that he's still town. BF hasn't stuck out on me much has changed from his D1 and is still a scumlean. MZ is really bad and should be VIGI'ed or lynched D4 after Milo. Milo needs to be lynched D3 and I've been going after him since the middle of D1 - so when he flips mafia (unless there is two 2 RB's which I'm extremely doubtful still on) Some peoples views may turn around finally or I can me more confident they are mafia trying to mislynch me. Trfel has been pretty useless still and is a scumlean. LS Conf town KSC had a good day one but has been falling into the cracks - he still gets a slight townlean Breshke I still think is townie from his point of view and what he's been trying to do. Oats has been having some good thoughts and a townie POV - townloan Rsoul - her and HF - Gahh their shitfights and pissing contests all the time - HF sees my thoughts and ideas a lot clearer though. HtS - 1st post miller - has good thoughts in the thread but can also be really posty as scum - townlean Harkon - 99% sure vet BlueHunter - he's been pretty bad but his list post of Damdred milo meapak trfel Kelsier obi matches a lot with my thoughts as well which would be the only positive right now.
I'll be finishing the thread and adding any extra thoughts but won't be around for the next few hours it's GF's day out
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