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Harkon
Profile Joined June 2015
569 Posts
July 11 2015 16:19 GMT
#5441
On July 12 2015 01:16 ruXxar wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 12 2015 01:10 rsoultin wrote:
and the third was because truffle had said he was about to post a case, and i told him to read for that reason...

so like...how was i being obstructive?

(i kinda did explain all of this already in that big post, ruxx -_-)

like is there a misunderstanding somewhere or what?


Well, when you start calling out people for not understanding something, that's pretty much inviting them into a shitfight, which will derail their attention from what they were actually trying to accomplish.

It also let's pressure off trfel since he doesn't feel the need to answer the question when he's busy with you.

So what exactly are you saying? Rsoultin is scum with Trfel?
rsoultin
Profile Blog Joined November 2014
Netherlands15308 Posts
July 11 2015 16:20 GMT
#5442
On July 12 2015 01:16 ruXxar wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 12 2015 01:10 rsoultin wrote:
and the third was because truffle had said he was about to post a case, and i told him to read for that reason...

so like...how was i being obstructive?

(i kinda did explain all of this already in that big post, ruxx -_-)

like is there a misunderstanding somewhere or what?


Well, when you start calling out people for not understanding something, that's pretty much inviting them into a shitfight, which will derail their attention from what they were actually trying to accomplish.

It also let's pressure off trfel since he doesn't feel the need to answer the question when he's busy with you.


xP this is forum mafia. you just answer the question again/or ignore it. most of us will keep asking. hf certainly will

there's no possible way if hf is town and trfel and i are scum that me saying he should read the thread is going to make him forget he was trying to get trfel to answer something if that's what he was doing lolol ><

and yes, i call people out for not understanding shit all the time. i did it last game. so? like if anything, that's a personality flaw. or did you not read the game you were scum in?
"rsoultin: Mafia Suicide Inducer...you have unlimited shots because you are so god-damn relentless." - marvellosity (2015)
ruXxar
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
Norway5669 Posts
July 11 2015 16:26 GMT
#5443
On July 12 2015 01:14 marvellosity wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 12 2015 01:09 ruXxar wrote:
The thing is rsoul, that I can't see any town motivation for doing what you did.
I might attribute it to just being a thing between you and HF that just sparks into a shitfight, but in my eyes it still looks anti-town and scummy.

just to clarify - are you able to make the distinction between anti-town and scummy?

townies do bad shit and anti-town shit ALL the time.

rsoultin is known to be pretty argumentative at the best of times


I'd say a good example of anti-town is LS outing his blue roles.
But since he's known to do that in his meta, it can't be viewed as directly scummy.

I tried to come up with some reasons for what rsoultin was doing, and I came up with these:

1 rsoul is town, she and trfel are such close friends that she feels the need to defend him.
She thinks her reads on him are correct and that his alignment should not be determined further.(anti-town)

2 rsoul is mafia defending/deflecting off town trfel because she is certain of his alignment and she knows he's an easy target.
If he flips she will look good for defending him.(scummy)

3 rsoul is mafia together with trfel and deflecting off her partner .(scummy)
"alright guys im claiming my role im actually politician I can manipulate a persons vote during the day phase, used it on clarity last phase and forced him to vote for HF. full role name donald trump, definitely town sided". - EBH
rsoultin
Profile Blog Joined November 2014
Netherlands15308 Posts
July 11 2015 16:27 GMT
#5444
anyway yeah, gonna grab some food

i dunnae, ruxx...it's hard to tell whether you're just tunneled town or the reason your responses are so generic and stubborn is that you don't actually have a good reason...i'll review you filter again pretending that all the interactions with me never happened before EoN
"rsoultin: Mafia Suicide Inducer...you have unlimited shots because you are so god-damn relentless." - marvellosity (2015)
LightningStrike
Profile Joined February 2011
United States14277 Posts
July 11 2015 16:29 GMT
#5445
On July 12 2015 01:26 ruXxar wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 12 2015 01:14 marvellosity wrote:
On July 12 2015 01:09 ruXxar wrote:
The thing is rsoul, that I can't see any town motivation for doing what you did.
I might attribute it to just being a thing between you and HF that just sparks into a shitfight, but in my eyes it still looks anti-town and scummy.

just to clarify - are you able to make the distinction between anti-town and scummy?

townies do bad shit and anti-town shit ALL the time.

rsoultin is known to be pretty argumentative at the best of times


I'd say a good example of anti-town is LS outing his blue roles.
But since he's known to do that in his meta, it can't be viewed as directly scummy.

I tried to come up with some reasons for what rsoultin was doing, and I came up with these:

1 rsoul is town, she and trfel are such close friends that she feels the need to defend him.
She thinks her reads on him are correct and that his alignment should not be determined further.(anti-town)

2 rsoul is mafia defending/deflecting off town trfel because she is certain of his alignment and she knows he's an easy target.
If he flips she will look good for defending him.(scummy)

3 rsoul is mafia together with trfel and deflecting off her partner .(scummy)

Tfrel and rsoul been playing together since November and they are good friends lol.(She talked to me in the past how she had to help Tfrel out on stuff through skype and stuff lol)
May the next light shine/Former #1 Alliance LoL fan/ Current Teamliquid LoL Fan
rsoultin
Profile Blog Joined November 2014
Netherlands15308 Posts
July 11 2015 16:30 GMT
#5446
On July 12 2015 01:26 ruXxar wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 12 2015 01:14 marvellosity wrote:
On July 12 2015 01:09 ruXxar wrote:
The thing is rsoul, that I can't see any town motivation for doing what you did.
I might attribute it to just being a thing between you and HF that just sparks into a shitfight, but in my eyes it still looks anti-town and scummy.

just to clarify - are you able to make the distinction between anti-town and scummy?

townies do bad shit and anti-town shit ALL the time.

rsoultin is known to be pretty argumentative at the best of times


I'd say a good example of anti-town is LS outing his blue roles.
But since he's known to do that in his meta, it can't be viewed as directly scummy.

I tried to come up with some reasons for what rsoultin was doing, and I came up with these:

1 rsoul is town, she and trfel are such close friends that she feels the need to defend him.
She thinks her reads on him are correct and that his alignment should not be determined further.(anti-town)

2 rsoul is mafia defending/deflecting off town trfel because she is certain of his alignment and she knows he's an easy target.
If he flips she will look good for defending him.(scummy)

3 rsoul is mafia together with trfel and deflecting off her partner .(scummy)


why are you still saying i was defending him? -_-

meh, it's like talking to a wall

i was stating my opinion not forcing others to adopt it -_-, and the second one is laughable if you knew my track record with truffle...i don't need to know his alignment to know his alignment

literally the only world of the three that you could possibly believe is the third, and that assumes i'm doing something ridiculously stupid hoping it trfel ever flips people will clear me on stupidity, cause i'm not a moron -_-
"rsoultin: Mafia Suicide Inducer...you have unlimited shots because you are so god-damn relentless." - marvellosity (2015)
ruXxar
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
Norway5669 Posts
July 11 2015 16:30 GMT
#5447
On July 12 2015 01:19 Harkon wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 12 2015 01:16 ruXxar wrote:
On July 12 2015 01:10 rsoultin wrote:
and the third was because truffle had said he was about to post a case, and i told him to read for that reason...

so like...how was i being obstructive?

(i kinda did explain all of this already in that big post, ruxx -_-)

like is there a misunderstanding somewhere or what?


Well, when you start calling out people for not understanding something, that's pretty much inviting them into a shitfight, which will derail their attention from what they were actually trying to accomplish.

It also let's pressure off trfel since he doesn't feel the need to answer the question when he's busy with you.

So what exactly are you saying? Rsoultin is scum with Trfel?


I think either she's scum alone or she's scum with trfel.
I read them both as scummy independently of each other.
"alright guys im claiming my role im actually politician I can manipulate a persons vote during the day phase, used it on clarity last phase and forced him to vote for HF. full role name donald trump, definitely town sided". - EBH
rsoultin
Profile Blog Joined November 2014
Netherlands15308 Posts
July 11 2015 16:31 GMT
#5448
anyway yeah still gonna do what i said above

ciao
"rsoultin: Mafia Suicide Inducer...you have unlimited shots because you are so god-damn relentless." - marvellosity (2015)
rsoultin
Profile Blog Joined November 2014
Netherlands15308 Posts
July 11 2015 16:32 GMT
#5449
oh didn't see that first comment

why is ls cleared for his meta but meta you witnessed in our last game...me being stubborn on tonereads...not apply to this one? i know i've asked this before

like you literally could have said the same thing about me and gb if gb wasn't actually the cop that game. or me and damdred
"rsoultin: Mafia Suicide Inducer...you have unlimited shots because you are so god-damn relentless." - marvellosity (2015)
rsoultin
Profile Blog Joined November 2014
Netherlands15308 Posts
July 11 2015 16:35 GMT
#5450
i'll respond when i get back if it's something that needs responding to...i think it's just better for me to evaluate the rest of your play anyway

lol thanks ref!marv
"rsoultin: Mafia Suicide Inducer...you have unlimited shots because you are so god-damn relentless." - marvellosity (2015)
ruXxar
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
Norway5669 Posts
July 11 2015 16:39 GMT
#5451
On July 12 2015 01:32 rsoultin wrote:
oh didn't see that first comment

why is ls cleared for his meta but meta you witnessed in our last game...me being stubborn on tonereads...not apply to this one? i know i've asked this before

like you literally could have said the same thing about me and gb if gb wasn't actually the cop that game. or me and damdred


It's not the fact that you're have a tone read on Trfel, but the fact that you were actively deflecting pressure off him.
"alright guys im claiming my role im actually politician I can manipulate a persons vote during the day phase, used it on clarity last phase and forced him to vote for HF. full role name donald trump, definitely town sided". - EBH
ruXxar
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
Norway5669 Posts
July 11 2015 16:40 GMT
#5452
/butchered english
"alright guys im claiming my role im actually politician I can manipulate a persons vote during the day phase, used it on clarity last phase and forced him to vote for HF. full role name donald trump, definitely town sided". - EBH
LightningStrike
Profile Joined February 2011
United States14277 Posts
July 11 2015 16:40 GMT
#5453
Marv whats the verdict?
May the next light shine/Former #1 Alliance LoL fan/ Current Teamliquid LoL Fan
ruXxar
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
Norway5669 Posts
July 11 2015 16:44 GMT
#5454
Also I want to make it clear that it's not just this one incident I'm scum reading you for.
There's multiple things in your play that I didn't like, which I've pointed out before.
"alright guys im claiming my role im actually politician I can manipulate a persons vote during the day phase, used it on clarity last phase and forced him to vote for HF. full role name donald trump, definitely town sided". - EBH
rsoultin
Profile Blog Joined November 2014
Netherlands15308 Posts
July 11 2015 16:45 GMT
#5455
On July 12 2015 01:39 ruXxar wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 12 2015 01:32 rsoultin wrote:
oh didn't see that first comment

why is ls cleared for his meta but meta you witnessed in our last game...me being stubborn on tonereads...not apply to this one? i know i've asked this before

like you literally could have said the same thing about me and gb if gb wasn't actually the cop that game. or me and damdred


It's not the fact that you're have a tone read on Trfel, but the fact that you were actively deflecting pressure off him.


again, this could be said of what i did in himalayas with gb? which is why this confuses me so much that you think this alone makes me "scummy"?

i've done it with trfel before...saying hey if y'all want to lynch him you can, he's playing bad, but he's town and i won't help

<- noir

it's how i play. the play may be bad, but since my reads aren't always just about how someone is objectively playing, that's about the only way that i can express them -shrugs-

you should look up my past games with trfel, like i told you before

noir
student v
mafia down under 2
newbie mini mafia lxi

and see how i treat trfel in games. i know i have a good read on him -shrugs- it is what it is...was town in all those games btw xP
"rsoultin: Mafia Suicide Inducer...you have unlimited shots because you are so god-damn relentless." - marvellosity (2015)
ruXxar
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
Norway5669 Posts
July 11 2015 16:45 GMT
#5456
That's why I paid so much attention to you since I had suspicions of you before that interaction.
"alright guys im claiming my role im actually politician I can manipulate a persons vote during the day phase, used it on clarity last phase and forced him to vote for HF. full role name donald trump, definitely town sided". - EBH
rsoultin
Profile Blog Joined November 2014
Netherlands15308 Posts
July 11 2015 16:46 GMT
#5457
On July 12 2015 01:44 ruXxar wrote:
Also I want to make it clear that it's not just this one incident I'm scum reading you for.
There's multiple things in your play that I didn't like, which I've pointed out before.


yes i know xP emoticons xP xP xP

and mostly this lol

i remember the post because i responded to it near EoD 1
"rsoultin: Mafia Suicide Inducer...you have unlimited shots because you are so god-damn relentless." - marvellosity (2015)
scott31337
Profile Joined January 2013
United States2979 Posts
July 11 2015 16:47 GMT
#5458
So I'm at page 267 and I see quite a bit of my name throwing around - notably by OWS. The thing that I don't get is keeps thinking i'm mafia since I'm dull and boring - and I even asked him to make a case on me that I could respond to and that has not happened - just more of the hints at it to save for later? It makes me a bit suspicious.

I really hope LS didn't derp and give a gun to who I think he did.... :/

Geript has a magic read on WoS and for now I'm going to go with this.
Ruxxar has been playing so differently then his last game and decent thoughts I'm going that he's still town.
BF hasn't stuck out on me much has changed from his D1 and is still a scumlean.
MZ is really bad and should be VIGI'ed or lynched D4 after Milo.
Milo needs to be lynched D3 and I've been going after him since the middle of D1 - so when he flips mafia (unless there is two 2 RB's which I'm extremely doubtful still on) Some peoples views may turn around finally or I can me more confident they are mafia trying to mislynch me.
Trfel has been pretty useless still and is a scumlean.
LS Conf town
KSC had a good day one but has been falling into the cracks - he still gets a slight townlean
Breshke I still think is townie from his point of view and what he's been trying to do.
Oats has been having some good thoughts and a townie POV - townloan
Rsoul - her and HF - Gahh their shitfights and pissing contests all the time - HF sees my thoughts and ideas a lot clearer though.
HtS - 1st post miller - has good thoughts in the thread but can also be really posty as scum - townlean
Harkon - 99% sure vet
BlueHunter - he's been pretty bad but his list post of Damdred milo meapak trfel Kelsier obi matches a lot with my thoughts as well which would be the only positive right now.

I'll be finishing the thread and adding any extra thoughts but won't be around for the next few hours it's GF's day out
THIS WAGON IS HITTING MAFIA FOR SURE BOYS!
ruXxar
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
Norway5669 Posts
July 11 2015 16:48 GMT
#5459
Alright I gotta go out for a while.
I'll be back before EON.
"alright guys im claiming my role im actually politician I can manipulate a persons vote during the day phase, used it on clarity last phase and forced him to vote for HF. full role name donald trump, definitely town sided". - EBH
rsoultin
Profile Blog Joined November 2014
Netherlands15308 Posts
July 11 2015 16:49 GMT
#5460
heh

yeah i thought that would be more productive than it was -shrugs-

maybe y'all got more out of it than i did

i'll post something closer to EoN

meanwhile...



\o/ mood music!
"rsoultin: Mafia Suicide Inducer...you have unlimited shots because you are so god-damn relentless." - marvellosity (2015)
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