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Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30774 Posts
July 10 2015 22:46 GMT
#5022
Ok well ls you stick to the meta read on me and rsoul and never back down from it. If she shoots me and you see I'm town then realise that that makes her mafia
Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30774 Posts
July 10 2015 22:59 GMT
#5034
On July 11 2015 07:53 Meapak_Ziphh wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 11 2015 07:51 LightningStrike wrote:
On July 11 2015 07:50 Meapak_Ziphh wrote:
On July 11 2015 07:48 geript wrote:
Let me repeat myself once more. IF YOU FUCKS EVER LYNCH WAVEOFSHADOW, THEN I SWEAR TO GOD I WILL CLIMB OUT OF MY GRAVE AND CHOKE EACH OF YOU PERSONALLY TO DEATH. I'd strongly prefer you never lynch Breshke either. He's highly likely to be town.

Sidenote: I'm having some minor second thoughts about Marv. I'd lynch him before I would HF, but I wouldn't lynch either until lylo I think. I'll make a big post tomorrow.

Tldr
Shoot MZ
Then lynch into Vivax/milo

Why why why is wave so goddamn confirmed town for you?

It's a meta read by Geript since Geript can tell the difference between Waveofshadow and Waveofscum.

Yes indeed I gathered as much. However town wave looks much different than this in my experience. I'm trying to understand geripts meta read.

I also agree with it. It's much to not give a shit. I mean he just played like that exact way in the last game too as town?
Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30774 Posts
July 10 2015 23:13 GMT
#5038
On July 11 2015 08:10 Meapak_Ziphh wrote:
I wasn't in the last game with wave so I wouldn't know. Damdred's filter, while a very interesting read, didn't really sway me one way or another on wave. However if there are multiple people stepping up to meta defend wave I guess we can work through vivax and Scott first.


I town read scott kinda. And sort of vivax too lololol
Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30774 Posts
July 11 2015 02:30 GMT
#5126
Rsoultin you should be catching up with the thread. Nothing more. Not sure you've particulalry posted anything in your last flurry of posts at all.

Either way to answer your question my semi town read is scott is based on his list post. It ticked all the right boxes at the time and i don't really care that it's wishy washy I would be incredibly impressed if he had that list as mafia. Only gripe I had was the ritoky read he gave in it though. Just because i read some people on solving the game doesn't mean it applies to everyone either.
Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30774 Posts
July 11 2015 02:39 GMT
#5138
Yes it wqs necessary because all the questions you're asking seem super redundant and forced and you're not even sure of events that took place so it's not particularly helpful at all. Why am I having that problem with several people? The majority of people in my scum list so far are people that are incredibly likely to flip mafia. In fact the only reasom damdred was ever tentatively removed was because i trusted in one of your tells on him being demotivated when scum read otherwise i would have him solidly on there. If anything i am super on point so far.

Scott's post was ego stroking how? His list appeared at a time where i didn't exactly make my thoughts known and it's pretty hard to conjure up a list like that if you're mafia since it was far too accurate. Even all the little quips about people.
Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30774 Posts
July 11 2015 02:56 GMT
#5150
On July 11 2015 11:46 rsoultin wrote:
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On July 11 2015 11:39 Holyflare wrote:
Yes it wqs necessary because all the questions you're asking seem super redundant and forced and you're not even sure of events that took place so it's not particularly helpful at all. Why am I having that problem with several people? The majority of people in my scum list so far are people that are incredibly likely to flip mafia. In fact the only reasom damdred was ever tentatively removed was because i trusted in one of your tells on him being demotivated when scum read otherwise i would have him solidly on there. If anything i am super on point so far.

Scott's post was ego stroking how? His list appeared at a time where i didn't exactly make my thoughts known and it's pretty hard to conjure up a list like that if you're mafia since it was far too accurate. Even all the little quips about people.


don't obstruct me, please. i'm actually in a good mood right now, and blaming your damdy read on me when i was saying i didn't feel good about him this game...all game...just looks a lot like you're trying to shift blame

how is conjuring up a "far too accurate" list townie? how do you know it's accurate? like really ><

i mean i think it's pretty obvious how it's ego-stroking when he was sheeping several of your reads


I'm not obstructing you in the slightest and thats extremely backhanded of you. You mentioned i should be less trusting of ego stroking which means my reads are wrong. Yet my list so far has been pretty damn accurate indeed. So your ego stroking point has no substance in reality and was pointless.

You have admitted in this thread that you did not read damdred at all and were 100 pages behind so there is no way that you should be able to know he posted it anyway. Regardless, i am showing you how extremely amazing at this game i am that i can both argue and bitch and whine and get angry while solving the entire game and thus ego stroking plays no part in my reads.

My scott read has nothing to do with ego stroking in the slightest since its his little quips and add ons to people that i never mentioned that speak more to me.
Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30774 Posts
July 11 2015 02:58 GMT
#5154
You should simply read the game rsoultin because you are missing the night posts where milo horrendously tmi's up the thread with mz reads and mz tmi's up the thread with milo and ritoky reads and you're missing all of the fun bits that are actually useful to this game.
Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30774 Posts
July 11 2015 03:01 GMT
#5158
On July 11 2015 12:00 rsoultin wrote:
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On July 11 2015 11:56 Oatsmaster wrote:
n July 11 2015 11:54 rsoultin wrote:
lol >< wave's filter holy hell. he asked vig to shoot him; maybe they should

Do you have a read on wave?


complete null. he hasn't played. i'd say scum but i know he takes pride in his scum game so eh -_- maybe he fell down a hole somewhere. it's been days


Did you not just see him put the same effort into a game you are co hosting and he was town?
Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30774 Posts
July 11 2015 03:06 GMT
#5162
All his little descriptions?
Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30774 Posts
July 11 2015 03:07 GMT
#5165
Look you don't have to like it but that just makes you bad. I'm the god of change of hearts for great small things and town reads.
Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30774 Posts
July 11 2015 03:08 GMT
#5166
Let's just call it tone and be done with it
Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30774 Posts
July 11 2015 03:10 GMT
#5171
On July 09 2015 06:12 Holyflare wrote:
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On July 09 2015 06:06 XEliteBlueHunter69X wrote:
Alright this mz/milo/ritoky thing has been beaten to death.

Anyone that wants to chime in feel free to give me your opinion on

kelsier/breshke/obi



Kelsier says some things that make sense but is wildly different from kelsier from last game, he has a lot of pointless one liners but I think he was kinda towny at the start of the game and has somewhat fallen off a bit but I still think he might be town.

Breshke said some towny stuff imo although I don't really remember any of his posts anymore. The only thing that sticks out in my mind is his town read of rsoultin which seemed really well reasoned out. <-- probably need to re-evaluate but I don't really think off my head he looked bad at all

obi seems a bit try hard which is potentially worrying but he hasn't really said anything egregious and it all seems pretty thought out and reasoned from what i remember.


Not much changed since n1 read of him and not bothered to reread him so no idea really
Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30774 Posts
July 11 2015 03:15 GMT
#5172
On July 11 2015 12:09 rsoultin wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 11 2015 12:08 Holyflare wrote:
Let's just call it tone and be done with it


instead of mocking me, because i actually do explain my tonereads when asked, why is it so difficult for you to point out which descriptions you liked in his list? this isn't a hard question. it's like literally the only reason you're townreading him, is it not?


Holy fucking shit this is the most pointless exercise in existence. I liked the fact that he pointed out all the little things like milo town reading 3 ppl etc stc. I liked his little intuitive rsoul deflecting shit.

I don't remember off the top of my head what exactly gave me warm fuzzy feelings because it was 10,000 pages ago. It aligned with my thoughts in absolutely every way but ritoky. That's absolutely all i remember about it.

Go read the game because this is downright pointless since you don't trust me and you don't like my read on scott either.
Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30774 Posts
July 11 2015 03:22 GMT
#5180
On July 11 2015 12:18 Vivax wrote:
That list by scott has the interesting point that he accuses me of defending Trfel but at the same time posts something about him that says absoluely nothing about his alignment. The "that was crap but he can be not crap" stuff.


I don't see how that's interesting since your defence was incredibly scummy. You said "oh he posted more than j remember i don't want to vote him" yet the scum read was because he posted a lot but said nothing. Hence your defence was scummy even if trfel was not to him.
Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30774 Posts
July 11 2015 03:28 GMT
#5184
On July 11 2015 12:25 Vivax wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 11 2015 12:22 Holyflare wrote:
On July 11 2015 12:18 Vivax wrote:
That list by scott has the interesting point that he accuses me of defending Trfel but at the same time posts something about him that says absoluely nothing about his alignment. The "that was crap but he can be not crap" stuff.


I don't see how that's interesting since your defence was incredibly scummy. You said "oh he posted more than j remember i don't want to vote him" yet the scum read was because he posted a lot but said nothing. Hence your defence was scummy even if trfel was not to him.


Well you can fuck off first of all with this cause when I was ready to vote for him you magically lost interest and now you make it an issue again.


Funny how time changes things isn't it? I don't see how this reaction is warranted in any way either since I'm talking about Scott's post and you've somehow made it about my independent trfel read.

I scum read trfel for reasons. You jumped on the wagon. You then read trfel's filter and said you wouldn't lynch him because of the same reasons i wanted to lynch him in the first place. It was pretty scummy. It's a good read and has nothing to do with trfel's alignment.
Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30774 Posts
July 11 2015 03:40 GMT
#5188
On July 11 2015 12:36 Vivax wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 11 2015 12:28 Holyflare wrote:
On July 11 2015 12:25 Vivax wrote:
On July 11 2015 12:22 Holyflare wrote:
On July 11 2015 12:18 Vivax wrote:
That list by scott has the interesting point that he accuses me of defending Trfel but at the same time posts something about him that says absoluely nothing about his alignment. The "that was crap but he can be not crap" stuff.


I don't see how that's interesting since your defence was incredibly scummy. You said "oh he posted more than j remember i don't want to vote him" yet the scum read was because he posted a lot but said nothing. Hence your defence was scummy even if trfel was not to him.


Well you can fuck off first of all with this cause when I was ready to vote for him you magically lost interest and now you make it an issue again.


Funny how time changes things isn't it? I don't see how this reaction is warranted in any way either since I'm talking about Scott's post and you've somehow made it about my independent trfel read.

I scum read trfel for reasons. You jumped on the wagon. You then read trfel's filter and said you wouldn't lynch him because of the same reasons i wanted to lynch him in the first place. It was pretty scummy. It's a good read and has nothing to do with trfel's alignment.


Changing opinion cause I saw something that made me think he might start playing properly isn't scummy. I missed his second page at first, and that's where he started posting some reads.


It's disingenuous to say that is how it happened in the thread though. In the thread i was saying he had posted a lot and said nothing, his reads didn't make sense and his questions expected no answers. Then you entered and said after voting him he posted more stuff than you realised. The thread collectively looked at you with a giant wtf and said then you should scum read him more for posting more than you thought and it still being nonsense. I don't think you elaborated it was about his reads. Anyway, this is about scott's post and that is why it makes sense. Everything he wrote was on point and exactly what i was thinking, even the nulls. Only ritoky read was odd.
Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30774 Posts
July 11 2015 03:51 GMT
#5194
On July 07 2015 03:50 Damdred wrote:
Hey guys I got distracted while I was finishing things up at the house cleaning days are a bitch.

ok I'll try to answer everything of I miss some things just quote them and I'll get them, or if you have a person you specifically want me to talk about I'll try to get to it.

Firstly a list of people I am town reading currently:
Ruxxor: last game we played together one of the things or a few things I caught him on was weird interactions with people suspecting them and then forgetting what he's typed. He seems to be a little more consistent with what he's said even if he is putting things a bit odd. Also tone wise he is way different, he seems a bit more relaxed and happier here while my experience with him as scum has been super angry sounding. Content wise he also makes a bit of sense with what he's posting so far.

Marv: Mostly its a tone thing plus he seems really involved in everything going on. I like and understand how he's looking at the game.

Kel: Has really put the work into the game so far that I would expect from a town kel, he has dug through posts in here and has kept brining things back up that he doesn't agree with and he keeps re evaluating as the game goes. Ie when I told him to checkour last game he did and changed a bit of what he said.

Hf: I'm scared of him bit he seems a lot more involved early and seems to be pushing things from a good angle to me. He doesn't sound really stinky to me atm so I'm ok with him being town here.

Hts is someone who I like at this point but don't have a firm handle on right now. For example I can understand the thought processes she uses in giving the reads and when others don't understand you can see a struggle to get people to understand it. Sticks to the guns but seems to really want to work with people to get them to understand the perspective. I think has a good shot at town

palmar is a Toney thing and I like him but I always do.

If anyone has any more specific questions about people not on my list ask.

@kel currently in struggling with my rsoultin read. I'm of two minds whenever her and hf fight one of them is generally scum as they usually get along pretty well. But on the other hand she's so obstinante and doesn't care what people think shed just going to say whatever the hell she wants, that's a town trait to me of hers to. Overall I'm still thinking town but a couple of misgivings about her.


I mentioned on day 1 how weird this town read post was from damdred since he didn't sound sure about those reads at all yet still called them all town and I think i like arbitrarily deciding everyone on this list that's explained is town simply because it looks like he struggled to point out everything obvious that didn't make people towny but did in his mafia world.

#sickreads
Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30774 Posts
July 11 2015 04:04 GMT
#5208
Milo is a bad shot. Mz is a good shot.
Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30774 Posts
July 11 2015 04:09 GMT
#5213
False Lead (Mafia Roleblocker): False leads happen all the time. Most of the time, they’re not even anyone’s fault. They sure do eat up valuable peoples’ time, though. You are a roleblocker. Each night, you may target a player and roleblock them. You can also deliver KP while doing this. Your RB resolves before any town abilities do.


This is a bit wifom but since damdred was only tracked to ritoky, barring any jk or anything that has a save on ritoky it probably means someone not talked about as being scummy carried the kp. Not sure what that means yet but i just saw it in the op.
Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30774 Posts
July 11 2015 04:11 GMT
#5214
Ignore the middle sentenfe since sleep derp.
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