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On July 11 2015 20:21 Clarity_nl wrote:Show nested quote +On July 11 2015 19:46 marvellosity wrote:
good post on the last page geript.
at some point i'm going to have to read everything... It's not a huge chance or anything but there is a chance NKs are ritoky + marv so make sure it's today! As for me, I'm around for a couple of hours now and then I won't be until the second half of d3 (Monday)
Since geript outed being one-shot it is entirely possible unfortunately. I could die too.
It's hard to take anything geript says seriously by the way if he thinks milo could be town and I could be mafia but I guess that is because he is that good.
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If even oats understands why fakeclaiming vet in my position makes no sense then saying silly things like that is pretty embarassing.
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Because I am good like that.
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You read the damn thread?
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Really amazing. I am so proud of you.
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Idk if it is amazing enough to deserve acookie I am afraid.
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I have a pretty good idea since you know I read it before you did.
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Because I can.
This conversation is really productive.
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On July 11 2015 22:15 rsoultin wrote:
so slept rsoul realized how stupid tired rsoul was being last night lol >< milo should never be shot
Maybe you get one half of a cookie.
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Damdreds post after geripts claim are pure WIFOM and should be disregarded completely.
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I generally hate it when people play multiple games and only do things in one of them. This applies to someone else too.
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On July 11 2015 22:46 Clarity_nl wrote:
Why is a milo shot bad, anyway? There's no one really defending him so are we getting information by lynching him that we wouldn't by shooting him or?
It's entirely possible that I'm being dumb
If milo is cop he is a horrific shot, if he isn't we lynch him anyways.
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On July 11 2015 22:55 ruXxar wrote:Show nested quote +On July 11 2015 15:34 geript wrote:On July 11 2015 13:48 Oatsmaster wrote:
Meh, there really isnt any value for mafia to claim vet there.
They have no idea if there is a vet in the game, and vet is literally the easiest thing is the world to cc. There is no risk for the vet that he gets shot and loses his role.
OK this is pretty much bullshit. Let me be clear. I'm kinda meh about Harkon. The claim is completely irrelevant. There's a great set of reasons to claim vet there. Yes, it helps sink Damdred, but that ship is essentially already done and gone. So you're sacrificing a piece that you've already lost in order to gain town cred. Nothing against Harkon, but if he doesn't die then he becomes pretty sketchy and would 100% lynch him at lylo. Also, vet is actually a really hard role to cc. Yes, 2 vets would be odd. But it's not in any way close to confirmed. It's unlikely Harkon is mafia. But if he is, then the vet claim is a great play because it's non-confirmable and actually hard to counter. Hell even a PGO or something would have a hard time claiming against him. I was actually mulling over this. It's actually a pretty good play by mafia to claim vet. If the claim goes un-CC'ed then he's pretty much gained town-cred until LYLO. It's not an impossible world, but i dont have harkon pinned as particularly scummy at this point. For now there's other people i'd want to lynch before considering this possibility.
No, it is not actually a good play as mafia. There is NOTHING to gain from it besides making sure damdred dies and if I survive multiple nights people will get mad suspicious of me. Absolutely no reason to do it. Everyone was townreading me anyways I do not need towncred if I am mafia. It actually hurts instead of helping.
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On July 11 2015 23:04 marvellosity wrote:
Generally a scumplay which relies on trying to convince the thread there are 2 mafia roleblockers, which is practically unprecedented, is very strange.
Exactly.
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On July 11 2015 23:06 ruXxar wrote:Show nested quote +On July 11 2015 23:01 marvellosity wrote:
yes Harkon is right.
ruxaorara's points on milo were a bit better though. it's all kinda weird. I swear if I get a gun, I'm going to shoot you 100%.
Don't be mad at him, ruxor.
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On July 11 2015 23:10 ruXxar wrote:Show nested quote +On July 11 2015 23:07 Harkon wrote:On July 11 2015 23:06 ruXxar wrote:On July 11 2015 23:01 marvellosity wrote:
yes Harkon is right.
ruxaorara's points on milo were a bit better though. it's all kinda weird. I swear if I get a gun, I'm going to shoot you 100%. Don't be mad at him, ruxor. Like, it's not hard to get my name right. Either you type ruxxar or you can type ruxx. You know that a persons name is their most precious belonging? q.q /endrant
It's ok ruxy.
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On July 11 2015 23:13 rsoultin wrote:
at least he doesn't call you cow? -beats marv with a wet noodle-
swamprat
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On July 11 2015 23:17 marvellosity wrote:Show nested quote +On July 11 2015 23:14 Half the Sky wrote:
From a mechanics standpoint I'm just trying to consider that with 4 conf blues flying around (DT rit, tracker, banisher, and gunsmith) how aren't there two RBs? What scum setup with 1 RB would counter all that? i don't understand your point we've had millions of 30 player normals with 6+ blues and only one roleblocker. what's so odd?
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And those roles weren't 1 or 2-shot.
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On July 11 2015 23:29 marvellosity wrote:
in any case there's no real resolution to the 1 or 2 RB debate.
i said earlier that scum would have had to have decided to push on to the thread of an unprecedented 2 RB world, which seems unlikely as a collective decision.
i can see the world, though, that a milo-scum just kinda did things of his own accord without thinking them through that much.
it would make what he did a poor decision, but players (on their own) make poor decisions all the time.
Which poor decision? He did the correct play as scum with claiming rb since it was not unlikely that we would have lynched ritoky before him. The clarity check was a play to get towncred and I don't think he would have ever kept it up.
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On July 11 2015 23:35 marvellosity wrote:Show nested quote +On July 11 2015 23:32 Harkon wrote:On July 11 2015 23:29 marvellosity wrote:
in any case there's no real resolution to the 1 or 2 RB debate.
i said earlier that scum would have had to have decided to push on to the thread of an unprecedented 2 RB world, which seems unlikely as a collective decision.
i can see the world, though, that a milo-scum just kinda did things of his own accord without thinking them through that much.
it would make what he did a poor decision, but players (on their own) make poor decisions all the time. Which poor decision? He did the correct play as scum with claiming rb since it was not unlikely that we would have lynched ritoky before him. The clarity check was a play to get towncred and I don't think he would have ever kept it up. i don't think so. claiming a check (either colour tbh) was a better decision. although i take your point, he claimed before geript's check right, so he might have just been hoping he could swing a lynch against the cop before he died afterwards. yeah maybe. makes sense.
Claiming a check means he wasn't rbed OR killed. BAD play.
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EPT
