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Harkon
Profile Joined June 2015
569 Posts
July 10 2015 20:44 GMT
#4913
On July 11 2015 05:44 Meapak_Ziphh wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 11 2015 05:39 marvellosity wrote:
On July 11 2015 05:36 Meapak_Ziphh wrote:
On July 11 2015 05:33 marvellosity wrote:
On July 11 2015 05:33 Meapak_Ziphh wrote:
On July 11 2015 05:28 marvellosity wrote:
On July 11 2015 05:26 Meapak_Ziphh wrote:
On July 11 2015 05:22 marvellosity wrote:
sorry MZ, I actually harbour absolutely zero ill will towards you, i just want you to die :p

I changed my mind, I want to get shot now just so I can gloat at how bad/wrong you are.

I wouldn't mind you as a player marv but your ego is just impossible for me to deal with, always has been for me.

i have 24 pages filter or something and i think the only egotistical thing i've said is that if i tunnel someone d1 they're usually mafia

you should reconsider your read :p

You're probably town, I wasn't scum reading you. You're a decent player just not as good as you think you are and I find your attitude abrasive sometimes.

If you somehow think I'm a better vigi shot than wave vivax scott I really have no response because I don't understand how you think that.

From tactical standpoint I think shooting me is terrible given what I've already outlined but like I said, now I kinda want to die bc it's gonna be hilarious watching you be wrong.

you misunderstand.

your egotistical read, not your town/mafia read.

if i'm wrong i'll shrug and move on

Do you really actually think I'm a better shot than wave or vivax? Why? Literally the only reason you think I'm scum is that you didn't understand my read on milo/ritoky (which you now agree with).

There's a quote in someone's sig somewhere. maybe bugs' sig, or maybe the sig is a quote from bugs.

it's about the timings of being correct. something about being correct at the right and wrong times. and in this case the reasoning behind it.

like sure i can be wrong on you, i just don't think i am. i think you'll flip red, and if you don't, it was an incorrect read on my part (obviously).

i also personally think your push on Vivax/Wave is kinda shallow. It's a very typical "they're lazy = scum", it seems pretty unnuanced, it seems formulaic.

So if I'd come back to the thread five hours later when everyone had changed their minds than I'd be ok? Well I can't help I saw something before you did. If you're gonna kill for that then w/e.

My push on wave/vivax is because I think they're playing a typical lazy lurk scum game. They've had zero thread pressure except for vivax who suddenly showed up after HtS posted something. Besides I'm fairly confident that the cluster fuck of rousltin, HF, ruxxar, Harkon are all town which says to me that scum are playing a more lurky game. I was initially suspicious of clarity but he's had some pretty good posts since then so I've backed off of that.

This is not a matter of time/five hours. This is a matter of information. Like geripts claim.
Harkon
Profile Joined June 2015
569 Posts
July 10 2015 20:51 GMT
#4915
On July 11 2015 05:48 Meapak_Ziphh wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 11 2015 05:44 Harkon wrote:
On July 11 2015 05:44 Meapak_Ziphh wrote:
On July 11 2015 05:39 marvellosity wrote:
On July 11 2015 05:36 Meapak_Ziphh wrote:
On July 11 2015 05:33 marvellosity wrote:
On July 11 2015 05:33 Meapak_Ziphh wrote:
On July 11 2015 05:28 marvellosity wrote:
On July 11 2015 05:26 Meapak_Ziphh wrote:
On July 11 2015 05:22 marvellosity wrote:
sorry MZ, I actually harbour absolutely zero ill will towards you, i just want you to die :p

I changed my mind, I want to get shot now just so I can gloat at how bad/wrong you are.

I wouldn't mind you as a player marv but your ego is just impossible for me to deal with, always has been for me.

i have 24 pages filter or something and i think the only egotistical thing i've said is that if i tunnel someone d1 they're usually mafia

you should reconsider your read :p

You're probably town, I wasn't scum reading you. You're a decent player just not as good as you think you are and I find your attitude abrasive sometimes.

If you somehow think I'm a better vigi shot than wave vivax scott I really have no response because I don't understand how you think that.

From tactical standpoint I think shooting me is terrible given what I've already outlined but like I said, now I kinda want to die bc it's gonna be hilarious watching you be wrong.

you misunderstand.

your egotistical read, not your town/mafia read.

if i'm wrong i'll shrug and move on

Do you really actually think I'm a better shot than wave or vivax? Why? Literally the only reason you think I'm scum is that you didn't understand my read on milo/ritoky (which you now agree with).

There's a quote in someone's sig somewhere. maybe bugs' sig, or maybe the sig is a quote from bugs.

it's about the timings of being correct. something about being correct at the right and wrong times. and in this case the reasoning behind it.

like sure i can be wrong on you, i just don't think i am. i think you'll flip red, and if you don't, it was an incorrect read on my part (obviously).

i also personally think your push on Vivax/Wave is kinda shallow. It's a very typical "they're lazy = scum", it seems pretty unnuanced, it seems formulaic.

So if I'd come back to the thread five hours later when everyone had changed their minds than I'd be ok? Well I can't help I saw something before you did. If you're gonna kill for that then w/e.

My push on wave/vivax is because I think they're playing a typical lazy lurk scum game. They've had zero thread pressure except for vivax who suddenly showed up after HtS posted something. Besides I'm fairly confident that the cluster fuck of rousltin, HF, ruxxar, Harkon are all town which says to me that scum are playing a more lurky game. I was initially suspicious of clarity but he's had some pretty good posts since then so I've backed off of that.

This is not a matter of time/five hours. This is a matter of information. Like geripts claim.

It's really not. The posts I made my read on were available to everyone to read, if I had come back later and made my behavior analysis posts after everyone had changed sides I would have just blended in with the crowd. I saw something in milo's posts before other people did. Just read my filter.

It really is. You made your analysis when the strong information that indicated milo is scum was not there yet. After it was there everyone else called him scum.
Harkon
Profile Joined June 2015
569 Posts
July 10 2015 21:50 GMT
#4974
On July 11 2015 06:48 LightningStrike wrote:
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On July 11 2015 06:46 Damdred wrote:
I know who has your gun ^_-

Doubt it.

Don't say anything about it.
Harkon
Profile Joined June 2015
569 Posts
July 10 2015 22:06 GMT
#4993
So milo, time to reevaluate.
Harkon
Profile Joined June 2015
569 Posts
July 10 2015 23:25 GMT
#5042
On July 11 2015 07:47 Clarity_nl wrote:
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On July 11 2015 07:42 Holyflare wrote:
Btw ls if you gave the gun to rsoul which you inevitably did because you're ls and she shoots anyone but mz (probably me) then you must promise to hunt her down as the mafia she is. MZ is incredibly likely mafia and she's been posturing hardcore to use it on me as an "oh whoops" situation.


I really like this post. Just wanted you to know that

Why? This post is as null as it gets.
Harkon
Profile Joined June 2015
569 Posts
July 10 2015 23:30 GMT
#5046
On July 11 2015 08:28 Clarity_nl wrote:
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On July 11 2015 08:25 Harkon wrote:
On July 11 2015 07:47 Clarity_nl wrote:
On July 11 2015 07:42 Holyflare wrote:
Btw ls if you gave the gun to rsoul which you inevitably did because you're ls and she shoots anyone but mz (probably me) then you must promise to hunt her down as the mafia she is. MZ is incredibly likely mafia and she's been posturing hardcore to use it on me as an "oh whoops" situation.


I really like this post. Just wanted you to know that

Why? This post is as null as it gets.



I disagree, I think it's super difficult for scum!HF to ever have these thoughts and present them in this way.

I should really go to bed, lol

lol why? If he is scum and rsoultin is town this is exactly what he thinks. And I have a feeling you should read 1-2 HF scumgames at some point.
Harkon
Profile Joined June 2015
569 Posts
July 11 2015 00:24 GMT
#5053
On July 11 2015 09:20 Clarity_nl wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 11 2015 08:33 LightningStrike wrote:
On July 11 2015 08:30 Harkon wrote:
On July 11 2015 08:28 Clarity_nl wrote:
On July 11 2015 08:25 Harkon wrote:
On July 11 2015 07:47 Clarity_nl wrote:
On July 11 2015 07:42 Holyflare wrote:
Btw ls if you gave the gun to rsoul which you inevitably did because you're ls and she shoots anyone but mz (probably me) then you must promise to hunt her down as the mafia she is. MZ is incredibly likely mafia and she's been posturing hardcore to use it on me as an "oh whoops" situation.


I really like this post. Just wanted you to know that

Why? This post is as null as it gets.



I disagree, I think it's super difficult for scum!HF to ever have these thoughts and present them in this way.

I should really go to bed, lol

lol why? If he is scum and rsoultin is town this is exactly what he thinks. And I have a feeling you should read 1-2 HF scumgames at some point.

Ya check Ippo and Himalayas, and Carol of the Bells for his long scum games.


I will at some point.

Currently I think rsoultin is much more likely to be scum than HF

Considering the reasons you townread him for I could give you a random selection of HF filters (both alignments) without telling you what he was and you would townread him every single time.
Harkon
Profile Joined June 2015
569 Posts
July 11 2015 00:36 GMT
#5057
On July 11 2015 09:29 Clarity_nl wrote:
Harkon why do you think scum shot you n1?

There are multiple possible reasons:

1) I softed being an investigative role at every opportunity. Dunno if anyone picked up on it.
2) I am a regular early nightkill and since they were obviously dodging marv I am always a viable kill (they could never mislynch me).
3) I got something right that others didn't. Like that HF is mafia for example.

One of those or combinations would be my guess.
Harkon
Profile Joined June 2015
569 Posts
July 11 2015 00:37 GMT
#5058
On July 11 2015 09:33 LightningStrike wrote:
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On July 11 2015 09:29 Clarity_nl wrote:
Harkon why do you think scum shot you n1?

Because JAT(Harkon) is a good player by reputation and the scum team feared him esp Damdred.

That's also possible.
Harkon
Profile Joined June 2015
569 Posts
July 11 2015 00:47 GMT
#5060
On July 11 2015 09:43 Clarity_nl wrote:
Buuuuut, you're a smurf? Eh whatever, I think some people called you JAT on d1. You're nearly confirmed town in my eyes, just curious.

Do you currently think HF is likely scum?

Like I'm trying to imagine anyone else in this game playing the way he's played and I feel he would be a strong townread for anyone, is his scumgame really that good? >.< Don't wanna level myself, I think he's town, sticking to it for now.

I think HF is likely scum, yes. It's not 100 % but it's not a "I am paranoid and do not townread him" read. Fortunately we will have 2-3 lynches until he becomes relevant and if he is town he will be dead by then so it will only become more obvious. If he isn't dead then you should lynch him. If he ever is alive in LYLO you MUST lynch him.
Harkon
Profile Joined June 2015
569 Posts
July 11 2015 01:09 GMT
#5075
On July 11 2015 10:08 rsoultin wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 11 2015 09:53 ObiWanShinobi wrote:
Cool flip.
Shoot MZ.

Look into scott tomorrow. I'm still thinking he's a good lynch and I literally can't come up with a single reason not to smite him off the face of the earth.


going through scott now...you think he's a better chance of hitting scum than milo?

Have you read the thread by now or are you just randomly reading filters instead?
Harkon
Profile Joined June 2015
569 Posts
July 11 2015 01:14 GMT
#5080
On July 11 2015 10:12 rsoultin wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 11 2015 10:09 Harkon wrote:
On July 11 2015 10:08 rsoultin wrote:
On July 11 2015 09:53 ObiWanShinobi wrote:
Cool flip.
Shoot MZ.

Look into scott tomorrow. I'm still thinking he's a good lynch and I literally can't come up with a single reason not to smite him off the face of the earth.


going through scott now...you think he's a better chance of hitting scum than milo?

Have you read the thread by now or are you just randomly reading filters instead?


eh i decided to go through who people were talking about and i'll probably do voting/read analysis later similar to what i did last game, cause that was baller xP 50% of the scum in one swoop

course i'm not sure if it'll be as useful with majority lynch, which is why i'm beginning with filter-diving the players in contention/players i can't remember a thing about lol ><

Read the damn thread.
Harkon
Profile Joined June 2015
569 Posts
July 11 2015 01:20 GMT
#5086
On July 11 2015 10:18 ObiWanShinobi wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 11 2015 10:16 rsoultin wrote:
On July 11 2015 10:10 ObiWanShinobi wrote:
On July 11 2015 10:08 rsoultin wrote:
On July 11 2015 09:53 ObiWanShinobi wrote:
Cool flip.
Shoot MZ.

Look into scott tomorrow. I'm still thinking he's a good lynch and I literally can't come up with a single reason not to smite him off the face of the earth.


going through scott now...you think he's a better chance of hitting scum than milo?


I completely forgot about milo. I remember townreading him for something but I've been pretty afk for the majority of today due to the sheer number of lynches we have set up already. Aren't we already lynching him too?


auto doesn't make me comfortable? but probably. like i dunnae...it's a silly thing that's making me waffle on him somewhat...mostly just that sitting there basically flailing about not lynching damdred seems like an obviously poor play when there's almost no chance damdy isn't getting lynched?

i dunnae. i have no clue what standard of play i should hold him to ><


I still don't particularly understand why Damdred/milo were intertwined so much, defense aside.

Milo was calling him confirmed town for some reason. Can someone explain that to me?

There were 2 claimed cops night1. None of them was shot. Ritoky was roleblocked by mafia damdred. Still not seeing the connection?
Harkon
Profile Joined June 2015
569 Posts
July 11 2015 01:20 GMT
#5088
Unless scum has 2 roleblockers milo is basically confirmed mafia.
Harkon
Profile Joined June 2015
569 Posts
July 11 2015 01:23 GMT
#5091
On July 11 2015 10:21 rsoultin wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 11 2015 10:14 Clarity_nl wrote:
On July 11 2015 10:10 rsoultin wrote:
he's really hitting hard on that holyflare "mindmeld" on the vt claim...i've noticed it multiple times, and it makes me itch, mostly because once is eh and more than once is like yelling

hey guys! i'm vt! see see see! without actually writing it lol ><


I think I figured it out. I actually just really struggle taking your posts seriously because of the smileys. Like that's obviously my problem, not yours, but I just went through your filter and you've actually said some good stuff that I somehow just didn't pay attention to, so there's that.

Also when I defended against Damdred's case I claimed VT, soo.....


ah

i'm naturally sarcastic. the smileys are for clarity (ironically enough xP)

ppl comment on them every game and i ignore it every game pretty much lol >< yes. my filter is good. people don't read it. they also take what hf says like it's gospel when if you actually compare his "case" to what happened, it's so full of holes it leaks like a sieve

but i don't really want to talk about him right now

(and frankly i was actually ready to clear you on damdy's insta!vote at the "red check", cause like i'm working it through my head and if milo is town he should have been roleblocked/killed. so like i need to double-check when he withdrew the check but i think it was before geript claimed? yeah i have to review the timing >< if it was after geript claimed that implicates him heavily, even more than damdred being tracked to ritoky imo)

That's why you should read the thread. It was before the claim.
Harkon
Profile Joined June 2015
569 Posts
July 11 2015 01:30 GMT
#5099
On July 11 2015 10:28 rsoultin wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 11 2015 10:21 rsoultin wrote:
On July 11 2015 10:14 Clarity_nl wrote:
On July 11 2015 10:10 rsoultin wrote:
he's really hitting hard on that holyflare "mindmeld" on the vt claim...i've noticed it multiple times, and it makes me itch, mostly because once is eh and more than once is like yelling

hey guys! i'm vt! see see see! without actually writing it lol ><


I think I figured it out. I actually just really struggle taking your posts seriously because of the smileys. Like that's obviously my problem, not yours, but I just went through your filter and you've actually said some good stuff that I somehow just didn't pay attention to, so there's that.

Also when I defended against Damdred's case I claimed VT, soo.....


ah

i'm naturally sarcastic. the smileys are for clarity (ironically enough xP)

ppl comment on them every game and i ignore it every game pretty much lol >< yes. my filter is good. people don't read it. they also take what hf says like it's gospel when if you actually compare his "case" to what happened, it's so full of holes it leaks like a sieve

but i don't really want to talk about him right now

(and frankly i was actually ready to clear you on damdy's insta!vote at the "red check", cause like i'm working it through my head and if milo is town he should have been roleblocked/killed. so like i need to double-check when he withdrew the check but i think it was before geript claimed? yeah i have to review the timing >< if it was after geript claimed that implicates him heavily, even more than damdred being tracked to ritoky imo)


it was before lol >< yeah i really am not keeping things straight at all this game

nh, disregard that entire train of thought, then

regardless, don't see much value in scum!milo and scum!damdy faking a red and insta!voting on a scummate? kinda useless wifom, that. so again it all comes back to milo's alignment

like if he's town and assuming there's only one mafia rb and scum gambled for some reason, damdy may have voted so fast because clarity is red, but i find that unlikely...more likely to just kill both rit and milo if they're both town and not take the risk

This is impossible. If scum has only one rb then milo is CONFIRMED mafia.
Harkon
Profile Joined June 2015
569 Posts
July 11 2015 02:01 GMT
#5107
On July 11 2015 10:57 rsoultin wrote:
didn't hf say he was townreading scott? i'd really like to know why >< (and am i talking to myself again? cause if so i'll just shut up and stop spamming up the thread)

Don't let that stop you.
Hf townread him for that one listpost he made. And yeah, you will be alone now.
Harkon
Profile Joined June 2015
569 Posts
July 11 2015 02:19 GMT
#5114
On July 11 2015 11:15 rsoultin wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 11 2015 10:14 Harkon wrote:
On July 11 2015 10:12 rsoultin wrote:
On July 11 2015 10:09 Harkon wrote:
On July 11 2015 10:08 rsoultin wrote:
On July 11 2015 09:53 ObiWanShinobi wrote:
Cool flip.
Shoot MZ.

Look into scott tomorrow. I'm still thinking he's a good lynch and I literally can't come up with a single reason not to smite him off the face of the earth.


going through scott now...you think he's a better chance of hitting scum than milo?

Have you read the thread by now or are you just randomly reading filters instead?


eh i decided to go through who people were talking about and i'll probably do voting/read analysis later similar to what i did last game, cause that was baller xP 50% of the scum in one swoop

course i'm not sure if it'll be as useful with majority lynch, which is why i'm beginning with filter-diving the players in contention/players i can't remember a thing about lol ><

Read the damn thread.


missed this post

yeeeeah i'm not your whipping boy xP

That comes as a surprise.
Harkon
Profile Joined June 2015
569 Posts
July 11 2015 02:26 GMT
#5121
On July 11 2015 11:23 rsoultin wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 11 2015 11:19 Harkon wrote:
On July 11 2015 11:15 rsoultin wrote:
On July 11 2015 10:14 Harkon wrote:
On July 11 2015 10:12 rsoultin wrote:
On July 11 2015 10:09 Harkon wrote:
On July 11 2015 10:08 rsoultin wrote:
On July 11 2015 09:53 ObiWanShinobi wrote:
Cool flip.
Shoot MZ.

Look into scott tomorrow. I'm still thinking he's a good lynch and I literally can't come up with a single reason not to smite him off the face of the earth.


going through scott now...you think he's a better chance of hitting scum than milo?

Have you read the thread by now or are you just randomly reading filters instead?


eh i decided to go through who people were talking about and i'll probably do voting/read analysis later similar to what i did last game, cause that was baller xP 50% of the scum in one swoop

course i'm not sure if it'll be as useful with majority lynch, which is why i'm beginning with filter-diving the players in contention/players i can't remember a thing about lol ><

Read the damn thread.


missed this post

yeeeeah i'm not your whipping boy xP

That comes as a surprise.


lol are you flirting with me?

zzzz @ ruxx coming into to blabber about obvious mechanics then peacing out

wut?
Harkon
Profile Joined June 2015
569 Posts
July 11 2015 02:31 GMT
#5130
On July 11 2015 11:30 rsoultin wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 11 2015 11:26 Harkon wrote:
On July 11 2015 11:23 rsoultin wrote:
On July 11 2015 11:19 Harkon wrote:
On July 11 2015 11:15 rsoultin wrote:
On July 11 2015 10:14 Harkon wrote:
On July 11 2015 10:12 rsoultin wrote:
On July 11 2015 10:09 Harkon wrote:
On July 11 2015 10:08 rsoultin wrote:
On July 11 2015 09:53 ObiWanShinobi wrote:
Cool flip.
Shoot MZ.

Look into scott tomorrow. I'm still thinking he's a good lynch and I literally can't come up with a single reason not to smite him off the face of the earth.


going through scott now...you think he's a better chance of hitting scum than milo?

Have you read the thread by now or are you just randomly reading filters instead?


eh i decided to go through who people were talking about and i'll probably do voting/read analysis later similar to what i did last game, cause that was baller xP 50% of the scum in one swoop

course i'm not sure if it'll be as useful with majority lynch, which is why i'm beginning with filter-diving the players in contention/players i can't remember a thing about lol ><

Read the damn thread.


missed this post

yeeeeah i'm not your whipping boy xP

That comes as a surprise.


lol are you flirting with me?

zzzz @ ruxx coming into to blabber about obvious mechanics then peacing out

wut?


lol apparently i'm kinkier than you are. shame

Not sure that is really the problem here but who knows I am half asleep anyways.
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