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Harkon
Profile Joined June 2015
569 Posts
July 09 2015 16:49 GMT
#4112
On July 10 2015 01:41 marvellosity wrote:
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On July 10 2015 01:37 Clarity_nl wrote:
Oh right. Yeah I did like that. It took me a while to process because when his post just happened I was a little upset at the bluehunting, lol.

I'll take a look at HF once we run out of sound lynches but tbh I still think he's pretty darn town. Maybe you guys all just have the fear because apparently he's a great scum player, the same way the thought of marv being scum always crawls around until I shake it off.

The only thing I don't like is the whole "waaaah no one is listening to me and omg someone called me scum OMGUS"

i don't have "the fear" though, i just relate to him a lot less than i did during the first part of d1.

happy to not put myself out there either way atm

^
Harkon
Profile Joined June 2015
569 Posts
July 09 2015 17:24 GMT
#4116
On July 10 2015 01:54 Holyflare wrote:
boooo hissssss

if only people read my filter more that'd help!

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On July 10 2015 01:22 Clarity_nl wrote:
On July 10 2015 01:21 Holyflare wrote:
Omg plz i poe basically the whole mafia team and point out all the bs tmi reads and rsoultin thinks I'm mafia because my vote was on milo before geript claimed the track?

You reading this bs rofl?


Do you bring this up because you think it makes her scum, or do you just have a fragile ego?


both because what has rsoultin done this entire game? who are her scum reads? nobody knows and she just keeps mentioning me and if you actually read stuff i was saying there's no way you can come to this conclusion (unless you're madly paranoid) that i am mafia when the mafia team is likely damd/milo/mz who I was pretty much saying was the team the whole night and my poe has been slowly getting there the whole time

Look, it is stuff like this that doesn't help you at all. The last list you gave had not one of damd/milo/mz in it. Yes, you said that a mz/milo tmi theory was possible afterwards but you did not mention damdred at all until geripts claim. So when you say you were calling damd/milo/mz the mafiateams all night you are simply lying or at the very least strongly exaggerating.
Also calling out a few teammates that look bad either way isn't out of your playbook anyways.
Harkon
Profile Joined June 2015
569 Posts
July 09 2015 17:31 GMT
#4117
Because let's face the truth milo and MZ were pretty much dead in the water anyways. Even before geript claimed.
Harkon
Profile Joined June 2015
569 Posts
July 09 2015 17:36 GMT
#4118
Ok, MZ was in your list. Anyways.
Harkon
Profile Joined June 2015
569 Posts
July 09 2015 17:44 GMT
#4123
On July 10 2015 02:41 marvellosity wrote:
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On July 10 2015 02:40 Clarity_nl wrote:
I don't wanna put too much work in at the moment. Damdred is getting lynched and people gonna die n2 so I'd rather have the extra information rather than waste my time now. Does that make me a bad? :S

town!milo should feel the opposite though. Apparently he thinks Damdred is town but is fine with lynching him, and he doesn't wanna defend himself until we pile on the votes d3 (?!)

not sure that's entirely fair

Well, his vote is on him since ages ago.
Harkon
Profile Joined June 2015
569 Posts
July 09 2015 17:48 GMT
#4126
On July 10 2015 02:46 Holyflare wrote:
Yeh my last list didn't have milo in it (kinda did damdy) but it obviously changed after i made the tmi case

If you think this comment qualifies "pushing him as mafiaall night":

(potentially damdred, can't rely on his depressed post forever, potentially trfel i'll talk with people about him after this mz stuff)

I do not think so.
Harkon
Profile Joined June 2015
569 Posts
July 09 2015 17:51 GMT
#4127
And since damdred was the only one of them who was in a kinda good position I will not give you credit at all. If you correctly called milo/MZ (let's see if MZ is scum first) out as town then gj but you would have done the same as mafia if they are scum.
Harkon
Profile Joined June 2015
569 Posts
July 09 2015 18:06 GMT
#4133
On July 10 2015 02:54 rsoultin wrote:
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On July 09 2015 21:49 Holyflare wrote:
Well yes there is lol. Damdred rb stacks with mafia rb and milo is mafia but yes quite unlikely.


this post

you were still on milo

you'd seen harkon's claim

besides which, hf, i never dropped the scumread on you...i backed off when you actually said something REMOTELY intelligent about your scumread on truffle that could actually make him scum...not hard-pushing you is pure pragmatism, and i still failed at it anyway cause i have a hard time letting bs just sit in thread...personality flaw of mine

also lol @ no reads. it's like you didn't read my post during the night phase or the very one you're criticizing. keep it up ^^

Well, no reads is once again an exaggeration but there is definitely a lack of content from your side and yes, I know you said you are busy. I am just stating a fact.
Harkon
Profile Joined June 2015
569 Posts
July 09 2015 19:14 GMT
#4155
On July 10 2015 04:08 geript wrote:
Either way I'm going to say this right now because I feel really strong about this.

NEVER FUCKING LYNCH WAVEOFSHADOW!!!!!! Seriously. IDK what it is and I can't explain it at all quite yet. But I will hate you forever if you lynch him. And I didn't feel super safe about him last game at all.

Maybe never lynch Holyflare. At best, I'd only consider him in Mylo (given milo/damdred/MZ). And even then I'm not sure I would. I'd have to think about a lot of things. But I had a strong townread on him early and I'm really struggling with a reason to exchange that in any way right now.

I can tell you now already that I will not follow this at all and I also won't advise town to do so. I will give some credit to your Waveread even though he is basically not playing this game, fair enough. But you can't read HF and I will ignore you and your early day1 read on him.
Harkon
Profile Joined June 2015
569 Posts
July 09 2015 19:56 GMT
#4170
On July 10 2015 04:53 boxerfred wrote:
I fear that my thoughts might have some weaknesses. Also, the important part of my post is basically the "3 possible blocked KPs, only milo wasn't blocked". The rest basically is thought process explanation. Please test my case, let me know your thoughts.

If a towny had blocked milo he would claim unless he is an idiot. And your logic doesn't make sense anyways. No KP was blocked. Mafia had 2 KP and both are accounted for. I have no idea what this big post is even about regarding milo.
Harkon
Profile Joined June 2015
569 Posts
July 09 2015 19:59 GMT
#4177
On July 10 2015 04:58 boxerfred wrote:
Yeah I know, Clarity. So 2 KP's were carried out. In a scenario where damdred is mafia rb, milo could've only been blocked by a town rb. That town rb could definitely claim by now. As long as that does not happen, I hold his block claim for a lie and am totally fine with lynching him.

Fair enough. But if milo is scum damdred is also probably scum and since damdred is probably the roleblocker we should lynch him first.
Harkon
Profile Joined June 2015
569 Posts
July 09 2015 20:00 GMT
#4180
On July 10 2015 04:59 boxerfred wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 10 2015 04:56 Harkon wrote:
On July 10 2015 04:53 boxerfred wrote:
I fear that my thoughts might have some weaknesses. Also, the important part of my post is basically the "3 possible blocked KPs, only milo wasn't blocked". The rest basically is thought process explanation. Please test my case, let me know your thoughts.

If a towny had blocked milo he would claim unless he is an idiot. And your logic doesn't make sense anyways. No KP was blocked. Mafia had 2 KP and both are accounted for. I have no idea what this big post is even about regarding milo.

Didn't he claim to have been blocked? If not, I'm just stupid. Who was blocked then Oo.

Yes, he claimed being blocked. If he is telling the truth mafia blocked him. If he lies (more likely) he wasn't blocked at all.
Harkon
Profile Joined June 2015
569 Posts
July 09 2015 20:35 GMT
#4239
On July 10 2015 05:31 ritoky wrote:
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On July 10 2015 05:29 Holyflare wrote:
On July 10 2015 05:25 ritoky wrote:
I mean, I kinda have to believe damdred is mafia here...I spent the past bit trying to comprehend why he would JK me and outside of using it on me cuz of the relationship we have I can't particularly justify it. But looking at it from the other angle is more troubling. If damdred was the JK, that means that the mafia fully intended for 1 investigation to go through and they chose mine over milo's. I can't really comprehend that. I understand that it is an acceptable statistical risk to take and the math makes sense; but on the chance one of the cops finds a red target why would you prefer to get into a yelling match with me rather than milo? No offense to milo, but I can yell, kick, scream, and throw a fit better than he can. And it is not like my claim is so much shadier than his to where I have so much less credit to where I am a better option in that regard. I just don't get it. Especially now that I learned there was 0 kp on me....I just am having a hard time trying to see a scenario where the stars align....


mafia could have shot you and jat could be mafia fake claiming the hit which lynches town jk damdred and probably milo after that (who could be town, yet super unlikely) thus they never expected you to get saved and had to make up some bs

less than 0% chance but probably like 5%


Yeah I just looked at op and saw no save notification, so possible.

Not possible. If you have a problem with the notification ask the mod - I am sure he will tell you veterans get a notification after being hit.
Harkon
Profile Joined June 2015
569 Posts
July 09 2015 20:36 GMT
#4240
On July 10 2015 05:33 milo109 wrote:
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On July 10 2015 05:31 Holyflare wrote:
you think i'm mafia so who gives a shit


How is this the best player who has ever played on the site. O.o This is such an anti-town phrase. Down with people who refute arguments with well you're wrong on me.

*best scumplayer
Harkon
Profile Joined June 2015
569 Posts
July 09 2015 20:36 GMT
#4243
On July 10 2015 05:32 milo109 wrote:
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On July 10 2015 05:30 ritoky wrote:
On July 10 2015 05:28 milo109 wrote:
Ritoky,


On July 10 2015 05:26 Holyflare wrote:

You then proceeded to use extortionate amounts of tmi.



Because he uses this read too. And it's dumb.


No, you're not understanding this. Harkon claimed veteran who had kp on him last night. So either he is mafia knowing the KP went on marv last night and is using the wifom to gain cred, or he is the veteran. He is on neither of your lists. So it makes 0 sense to me.


He is scummy enough that I think it is quite possible he was fake claiming. But obviously I can't be certain. So he is neither town for me, or mafia.

you are full of shit, sir
Harkon
Profile Joined June 2015
569 Posts
July 09 2015 20:41 GMT
#4254
On July 10 2015 05:40 milo109 wrote:
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On July 10 2015 05:36 marvellosity wrote:

I think I know the WIFOM reason Ritoky called me town, and that makes me think he is town as well.

There is no "Harkon is bothering me". you either think he's lying about his claim or you do not.

There is no grey.


Of course there is grey. This is mafia. The game is about the grey. I think he is lying, but the odds tell me he is not. So I'm willing to wait for more evidence until I call him scum. [/QUOTE]
lol
If we have a vig this guy has to go night 2.
Harkon
Profile Joined June 2015
569 Posts
July 09 2015 20:41 GMT
#4255
On July 10 2015 05:41 marvellosity wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 10 2015 05:33 milo109 wrote:
On July 10 2015 05:31 Holyflare wrote:
you think i'm mafia so who gives a shit


How is this the best player who has ever played on the site. O.o This is such an anti-town phrase. Down with people who refute arguments with well you're wrong on me.

best *scumplayer

too slow bro
Harkon
Profile Joined June 2015
569 Posts
July 09 2015 20:43 GMT
#4258
On July 10 2015 05:42 marvellosity wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 10 2015 05:40 milo109 wrote:
On July 10 2015 05:36 marvellosity wrote:

There is no "Harkon is bothering me". you either think he's lying about his claim or you do not.

There is no grey.


Of course there is grey. This is mafia. The game is about the grey. I think he is lying, but the odds tell me he is not. So I'm willing to wait for more evidence until I call him scum.

on what basis do you think he is lying?

He is just making up shit left and right.
Harkon
Profile Joined June 2015
569 Posts
July 09 2015 20:49 GMT
#4274
On July 10 2015 05:48 boxerfred wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 10 2015 05:47 Holyflare wrote:
I can be 100% sure

you will explain that after the game, right? assuming you're town ofc.

Let him bus milo in peace already, jeez.
Harkon
Profile Joined June 2015
569 Posts
July 09 2015 20:51 GMT
#4282
On July 10 2015 05:49 Holyflare wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 10 2015 05:49 Harkon wrote:
On July 10 2015 05:48 boxerfred wrote:
On July 10 2015 05:47 Holyflare wrote:
I can be 100% sure

you will explain that after the game, right? assuming you're town ofc.

Let him bus milo in peace already, jeez.


you realise that if rsoultin and milo flip mafia you've been shutting me down from scum reading them at every turning point? i hope you do realise that

When did I ever shut you down from scumreading milo? What the fuck does rsoultin have to do with this?
Keep being unreasonable it will surely make me townread you.
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