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milo109
Profile Joined May 2015
466 Posts
July 11 2015 02:49 GMT
#5143
On July 11 2015 11:46 ruXxar wrote:
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On July 11 2015 11:29 rsoultin wrote:
On July 11 2015 11:25 ruXxar wrote:
On July 11 2015 11:23 rsoultin wrote:
i stand corrected lol ><

you needed over 10 minutes to write that?


When I give an opinion on people I like to back into their filter to make sure that what I remember actually is factually correct with their actions.


yeah like that toneread doesn't even appear until well after the whole thread is talking about lynching him, so i'm just going to completely disregard it xP

talk to me about the fake redcheck


What do you want to know?

I think it's a suboptimal play from a mafia trying to survive.
Keep in mind that this was before geript outed.
I think the mechanically correct play as mafia is to fake a greencheck/redcheck and then stick with it.
Rescinding the check and saying that you got roleblocked is trying to sell the world of there being either 2 mafia RBs or 1 Mafia RB + 1 jailer.
I think that is a low percentage play, so I'm not a fan of it.


If in some very odd, very parallel universe, you did not automatically assume I was mafia, what would you read from the check?
milo109
Profile Joined May 2015
466 Posts
July 11 2015 02:52 GMT
#5147
On July 11 2015 11:51 ruXxar wrote:
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On July 11 2015 11:49 milo109 wrote:
On July 11 2015 11:46 ruXxar wrote:
On July 11 2015 11:29 rsoultin wrote:
On July 11 2015 11:25 ruXxar wrote:
On July 11 2015 11:23 rsoultin wrote:
i stand corrected lol ><

you needed over 10 minutes to write that?


When I give an opinion on people I like to back into their filter to make sure that what I remember actually is factually correct with their actions.


yeah like that toneread doesn't even appear until well after the whole thread is talking about lynching him, so i'm just going to completely disregard it xP

talk to me about the fake redcheck


What do you want to know?

I think it's a suboptimal play from a mafia trying to survive.
Keep in mind that this was before geript outed.
I think the mechanically correct play as mafia is to fake a greencheck/redcheck and then stick with it.
Rescinding the check and saying that you got roleblocked is trying to sell the world of there being either 2 mafia RBs or 1 Mafia RB + 1 jailer.
I think that is a low percentage play, so I'm not a fan of it.


If in some very odd, very parallel universe, you did not automatically assume I was mafia, what would you read from the check?


I'm not sure what you mean specifically.
Can you clarify?


Your response to the check was under the assumption that I was mafia. Under the assumption that I was null, what would your response be?
milo109
Profile Joined May 2015
466 Posts
July 11 2015 02:56 GMT
#5151
On July 11 2015 11:54 rsoultin wrote:
lol >< wave's filter holy hell. he asked vig to shoot him; maybe they should

I mean. I can sympathize.
milo109
Profile Joined May 2015
466 Posts
July 11 2015 03:01 GMT
#5157
On July 11 2015 11:58 Holyflare wrote:
You should simply read the game rsoultin because you are missing the night posts where milo horrendously tmi's up the thread with mz reads and mz tmi's up the thread with milo and ritoky reads and you're missing all of the fun bits that are actually useful to this game.


Plus some truly fun pointless arguments.
milo109
Profile Joined May 2015
466 Posts
July 11 2015 03:17 GMT
#5175
On July 11 2015 12:10 ruXxar wrote:
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On July 11 2015 11:52 milo109 wrote:
On July 11 2015 11:51 ruXxar wrote:
On July 11 2015 11:49 milo109 wrote:
On July 11 2015 11:46 ruXxar wrote:
On July 11 2015 11:29 rsoultin wrote:
On July 11 2015 11:25 ruXxar wrote:
On July 11 2015 11:23 rsoultin wrote:
i stand corrected lol ><

you needed over 10 minutes to write that?


When I give an opinion on people I like to back into their filter to make sure that what I remember actually is factually correct with their actions.


yeah like that toneread doesn't even appear until well after the whole thread is talking about lynching him, so i'm just going to completely disregard it xP

talk to me about the fake redcheck


What do you want to know?

I think it's a suboptimal play from a mafia trying to survive.
Keep in mind that this was before geript outed.
I think the mechanically correct play as mafia is to fake a greencheck/redcheck and then stick with it.
Rescinding the check and saying that you got roleblocked is trying to sell the world of there being either 2 mafia RBs or 1 Mafia RB + 1 jailer.
I think that is a low percentage play, so I'm not a fan of it.


If in some very odd, very parallel universe, you did not automatically assume I was mafia, what would you read from the check?


I'm not sure what you mean specifically.
Can you clarify?


Your response to the check was under the assumption that I was mafia. Under the assumption that I was null, what would your response be?


From a real cop perspective that actually got role-blocked, then you know you're pretty much not going to get any checks off until you die.
I think the play I would make is to just fake a red on the most scummy player on my list and stick with it.
You know you are 100% town, and everyone else is below 100%, so you have to trust in your own reads.

In that case I think you made the right play with faking the red-check, but screwed up when you rescinded.


Probably.
milo109
Profile Joined May 2015
466 Posts
July 11 2015 04:05 GMT
#5210
oh my god. Please please please. Vigi shoot someone aside from me. You'll probably be roleblocked if you talk about hitting scum, and then I can finally be innocent! Or just shoot me. I'm tired of this.
milo109
Profile Joined May 2015
466 Posts
July 11 2015 04:33 GMT
#5242
Wait wait. This is the same stuff I got TMI'd to oblivion for. Lynch vivax you fools.
milo109
Profile Joined May 2015
466 Posts
July 11 2015 04:38 GMT
#5245
geript you should totally track me bby.
milo109
Profile Joined May 2015
466 Posts
July 11 2015 04:40 GMT
#5248
You could confirm me, which is probably be better than tracking a random.
milo109
Profile Joined May 2015
466 Posts
July 11 2015 04:43 GMT
#5250
Oh.
milo109
Profile Joined May 2015
466 Posts
July 11 2015 21:10 GMT
#5532
Hello friends
milo109
Profile Joined May 2015
466 Posts
July 11 2015 21:25 GMT
#5548
On July 12 2015 06:15 ruXxar wrote:
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On July 12 2015 06:10 milo109 wrote:
Hello friends


Hello friend.
We need to talk.
Mind answering my questions from earlier?

Show nested quote +
@milo: can you talk a little bit more about the fake red check, the plan behind it, what you gained from and why you rescinded so early.
I have some follow up questions after that.

I did it because it seemed cool, I gained scum reads on clarity and HF, and I rescinded because Harkon scared me.
milo109
Profile Joined May 2015
466 Posts
July 11 2015 21:31 GMT
#5561
I've answered that question earlier. I'm not rewriting it on my phone.
milo109
Profile Joined May 2015
466 Posts
July 11 2015 21:39 GMT
#5563
On July 09 2015 12:23 milo109 wrote:
Remember, Mafia knows I'm fake claiming. This was the one I had the hardest time contemplating. On one hand, it seems odd that he knows to do this instantly. On the other, this is playing right in to the fake claim trap. I -think- this makes Harkon townier, unless he is out metaing me.

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On July 09 2015 07:44 Harkon wrote:
On July 09 2015 07:41 milo109 wrote:
Red on Clarity.

Do not try any bullshit. No plays, no tricks, no nothing.

Did you really redcheck clarity? If you say yes then we will lynch you if you ever back out of it.


This is also odd:
I actually think that this is Damdred happy that he roleblocked a mafia. But... I have information that you don't have. That I'm town.
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On July 09 2015 07:44 Damdred wrote:
And one of the cops has a red check on clarity hrmmm...

My prideful side wants to say fuck yeah....


And then we have my favorite:
Er... Holyflare.. Pls. This is not from a town point of view at all.
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On July 09 2015 07:52 Holyflare wrote:
Yeh we are never not lynching you ever.

This one is interesting:
I actually think this post and the one below it means I'm wrong on MZ. Or I'm an idiot and did a reaction test on town. I'll have to think over which is more likely.
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On July 09 2015 07:51 Clarity_nl wrote:
How about we just lynch milo and when he flips red we don't kill me?



milo109
Profile Joined May 2015
466 Posts
July 11 2015 23:23 GMT
#5597
Roleblocked. Have fun the nine town who are left tommorow. You're not in a good spot.
milo109
Profile Joined May 2015
466 Posts
July 12 2015 02:03 GMT
#5624
Lynch Clarity, HF, Boxer, Scott.
milo109
Profile Joined May 2015
466 Posts
July 12 2015 03:16 GMT
#5629
On July 12 2015 11:51 rsoultin wrote:
meeeh actually, milo...can you also address your read on rit? you were happy to lynch him after his claim...third scumread i believe...but then you changed your mind and i couldn't find anything in your filter to explain that change other than claiming cop yourself?


His WIFOM read on me. I understand what it is, and why he doesn't want to say it.
milo109
Profile Joined May 2015
466 Posts
July 12 2015 03:19 GMT
#5630
On July 12 2015 11:43 rsoultin wrote:
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On July 12 2015 11:03 milo109 wrote:
Lynch Clarity, HF, Boxer, Scott.


nh

can you flesh any of these out for me?

i don't actually have a ton to talk about today, but if you're actually town here and we're making a mistake, it would be nice to have your thoughts, and i'll talk to you about them as much as you want?


Not in the mood for filter dives, but happy to chat. I wrote earlier on that either Clarity or MZ was mafia. It was just based on the reaction of clarity, and how hard he went after MZ. Pretty certain on that read now. HF... HF and I have had quite a few chats. I think his play is obviously abrasive and dismissive, and he is leading town the wrong way. Into mafia land. Boxer just feels off to me.. Scott is the same. I would lynch them in the order that I listed.
milo109
Profile Joined May 2015
466 Posts
July 12 2015 03:32 GMT
#5633
If you want to clear him on that, you're being silly. Clarity was in no danger of being lynched there.
milo109
Profile Joined May 2015
466 Posts
July 12 2015 03:40 GMT
#5636
whatever. I've put enough effort into this game. I've given my reads. I've told you my role. Vote as you wish.
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