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geript
Profile Joined February 2013
10024 Posts
July 09 2015 17:43 GMT
#4122
You get back
geript
Profile Joined February 2013
10024 Posts
July 09 2015 18:07 GMT
#4134
On July 10 2015 02:56 marvellosity wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 10 2015 02:42 geript wrote:
Marv. I have an important question for you when I get back.

i'm here

Are you going to give my magic reads any credence whatsoever if Damdred flips mafia?
geript
Profile Joined February 2013
10024 Posts
July 09 2015 18:14 GMT
#4138
On July 10 2015 03:08 marvellosity wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 10 2015 03:07 geript wrote:
On July 10 2015 02:56 marvellosity wrote:
On July 10 2015 02:42 geript wrote:
Marv. I have an important question for you when I get back.

i'm here

Are you going to give my magic reads any credence whatsoever if Damdred flips mafia?

no

but i will listen when you explain them in a clear/concise manner, like i already did this game when you stopped pricking around

I think you should listen to them. There's always a logic to them and lots of times I struggle to find the reason.

Like I'm not always right, eg oats, but there is always underlying logic. I just feel really gyped when you guys don't listen to my crazy reads. I ask because I've kinda formulated that I don't want to lynch HF or Wave. There's a few more people bouncing around inside my head but eh.
geript
Profile Joined February 2013
10024 Posts
July 09 2015 18:59 GMT
#4148
I'm going to post these thoughts now because I'm going to get way more busy later and I don't know if I'll be alive after that. Everyone thinks I'm dead so I probably am.

On July 07 2015 07:09 geript wrote:
Scott31337
Clarity_nl
Vivax
Bill Murray
ritoky
Meapak_Ziphh
Trfel
LightningStrike
ObiWanShinobi
milo109
Oatsmaster
Damdred
rsoultin
XEliteBlueHunter69X

People not currently in my town circle

I keep coming back to this list, because I feel really, really strongly about it. I kinda have all game. I don't know if it has all 5 mafia on it. And I really struggle to verbalize my reads sometimes. Either way, I'm going to presume that Damdred and Milo are both mafia. I think MZ is likely mafia in that case too. I think I'm ok with Clarity because he makes on making posts that I look at and skim and feel ok about while being like I really don't want to read this. I get Oat's line of thinking but I really fucking hate it; and Oats usually has an odd way of working things out late in the game for some reason.

Scott31337
Vivax
ritoky
Trfel
LightningStrike
ObiWanShinobi
rsoultin
XEliteBlueHunter69X

Ritoky is an odd situation for me. Damdred being RB makes sense, but so does framer. I kinda hope that he dies with me and solves it. Like mechanically, it makes the most sense for ritoky to be town, but there's just something about his play that keeps on bugging me when he posts.

Of these though, OWS has gotten a wide range of townreads that I really struggle to understand. I don't read him well as a player at all because I find him a bit insane/nuts/whatever. But I just don't really in any way understand why people are townreading him. It bothers me because I can't quite place my finger on why. But I feel like more people would be wanting to kill him in combination with just the odd (or lack of) reasons for townreads on him.

I can't really explain the rsoultin read, but I kinda think she's town. I think I read her wrong last game or something. I don't know, but I do know that I'm oddly comfortable when she posts. I even liked her odd shitfight with HF. It's nothing specific but I get the sense that she's town. It's kinda weird, because I think she's a mason with someone. Maybe like trfel.

Vivax is one that really bugs me. Part of my issue with him is that I feel like he's divorced from reality. For me though, that's not something I find easy to think even he's town as. Like he has crazy ideas and throughts, but he's struggling to even follow the reality of the threat while at the same time picking at people who are both easy to pick at AND live in different worlds for me. Let me try to explain that better, I don't try and do associative reads; however, there's always a thought in the back of my head of "a team could be like XYZ or ABC" or whatever. But when I read the combined sense of Vivax's pushes, it seems to X and A. He seems to think people that don't make much (if any sense) together are scum together. He also has an odd way of completely ignoring talking about active subjects to propose wanting to talk about like Me and Damdred or Me and Trfel. Or Wave. He's also a player that despite being exceptionally out of touch in many ways with what's going on, somebody really seems to care about. Plus there's an odd combination of bitching about things while equally remaining behind the scenes. I could probably go on on him for a while.

The rest of them I'm really meh about. EBH too. He's odd.
geript
Profile Joined February 2013
10024 Posts
July 09 2015 19:08 GMT
#4151
Either way I'm going to say this right now because I feel really strong about this.

NEVER FUCKING LYNCH WAVEOFSHADOW!!!!!! Seriously. IDK what it is and I can't explain it at all quite yet. But I will hate you forever if you lynch him. And I didn't feel super safe about him last game at all.

Maybe never lynch Holyflare. At best, I'd only consider him in Mylo (given milo/damdred/MZ). And even then I'm not sure I would. I'd have to think about a lot of things. But I had a strong townread on him early and I'm really struggling with a reason to exchange that in any way right now.
geript
Profile Joined February 2013
10024 Posts
July 09 2015 19:20 GMT
#4157
On July 10 2015 04:11 Clarity_nl wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 10 2015 04:08 geript wrote:
Either way I'm going to say this right now because I feel really strong about this.

NEVER FUCKING LYNCH WAVEOFSHADOW!!!!!! Seriously. IDK what it is and I can't explain it at all quite yet. But I will hate you forever if you lynch him. And I didn't feel super safe about him last game at all.

Maybe never lynch Holyflare. At best, I'd only consider him in Mylo (given milo/damdred/MZ). And even then I'm not sure I would. I'd have to think about a lot of things. But I had a strong townread on him early and I'm really struggling with a reason to exchange that in any way right now.


That's like really surprising to me. WoS doesn't even seem interested in the game at all, how on earth could you feel so strongly one way or the other about his lynch? :s I hope you find a way to explain before the end of n2.

I just got out of a game with scumWave and I've played half a billion games with him. It's a lot of little things. Our interactions. How he jokes with me. And his first post. I put a lot of stock in early posts especially for townreads. Plus, I think he would've said a little more. Like Wave learned to play mafia with me when there was more of a 'thread sentiment' focus imo. And he has a really unique and interesting way of looking at how to approach why and when to post as mafia. And I'm pretty sure he'd post a bit more. Maybe not much but a bit more.

I'd also like to point out that what MZ is saying is wrong. I don't think Wave or Vivax has posted since the day began. I'm quite sure Vivax hasn't since I just filtered him. That gives me a little pause but meh. Either way, it's really, really stupid to make an apathetic argument for either of them imo.
geript
Profile Joined February 2013
10024 Posts
July 09 2015 19:22 GMT
#4158
On July 10 2015 04:18 marvellosity wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 10 2015 04:10 Meapak_Ziphh wrote:
On July 10 2015 04:03 marvellosity wrote:
On July 10 2015 03:47 Meapak_Ziphh wrote:
lool marv you just can't let it go.

Anyway I'm down for a damdred lynch today. I'd be fine with milo tomorrow obviously but I also think we should be considering wave/vivax/scott who have all pulled the disappearing act which would make sense if their scum buddies are currently under scrutiny and they don't want to be forced to comment on it.

can't hold it back anymore

I know it may be hard for you to entertain a world where you're wrong about something, however you have already flipped sides on ritoky/milo but it's ok for you because you did it for the "natural reasons" whereas my read based on their attitudes to the game was "wrong."

Anyway if you could pull your head out for a minute and look at wave/vivax/scott that'd be great

i love your digs, they're hilarious

i'm one of the least tunnelly players on TL Mafia, and i am literally always entertaining the idea i'm wrong.

Ask anyone.

You need to revisit your "not listening to geript's crazy reads" thing. They always turn out to create more information in the least and I'm right quite often. In the least, I find a way of working it out usually in a way that reveals my alignment.
geript
Profile Joined February 2013
10024 Posts
July 09 2015 21:32 GMT
#4392
First things first. Who got gunned today?
geript
Profile Joined February 2013
10024 Posts
July 09 2015 21:34 GMT
#4401
On July 10 2015 06:33 marvellosity wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 10 2015 06:32 geript wrote:
First things first. Who got gunned today?

No.

I'm not Blazinghand Marv.

Who got gunned.
geript
Profile Joined February 2013
10024 Posts
July 09 2015 21:36 GMT
#4408
On July 10 2015 06:35 Damdred wrote:
Milo is the most obvious scum,in the thread back me up here geript

No. I'd shoot MZ first.

Who got gunned? There's literally no reason to... Wait nm. They shoot at night. Please disregard.
geript
Profile Joined February 2013
10024 Posts
July 09 2015 21:42 GMT
#4427
On July 10 2015 06:38 LightningStrike wrote:
Geript are you Mason with Damdred? He claimed you are Mason with him is that true or false?

I already answered this. My vote in the least should continue to answer this. Like I'd love to have a sick townread on Damdred and claim to be mason but I can't. I'm not BH. I don't make cases on my mason partners. Like it's only slightly obvious. I just don't know who I want to kill first.

Also, two things. You need to never fucking claim ever again. I will start lynching you if you claim any role in the game if there's not halfway decent purpose. Second. you 100% have to claim who you gun at the end of every night from now on until you're out of guns. It sucks but it's more important for town to know who has your gun than to prevent scum from knowing who has your gun. I might change my mind on that, but eh. For now that's how I feel.
geript
Profile Joined February 2013
10024 Posts
July 09 2015 21:45 GMT
#4443
That's the best I can guess, but idk wtf is going on. People are literally acting crazy. Like I'm capable of a number of really sick reads and BIG PLAYS but I'd fucking never pull that shit as a mason without a clear plan/goal/whatever. And definitely not on D2 in a big game where it will just cause the thread to stagnate uselessly.
geript
Profile Joined February 2013
10024 Posts
July 09 2015 21:54 GMT
#4461
On July 10 2015 06:50 Clarity_nl wrote:
I'm a little pissed that geript didn't just go "I'm not mason with damdred, kill it with fire". Was that really so hard?

I was also operating under a few assumptions. 1. That people can fire during the day (which is wrong which makes claiming the gun super extra important). 2. That people wouldn't think that I'm that fucking retarded. Like I can be a ballsy player. And I've claimed roles and checks that I didn't ever get. But the bottom line is that I'm town and the thing that I hate most as town is when there's fucking chaos around crazy shit. So me claiming a tracker to track someone to veteran hit actually fulfills three things (providing information, clear time frame for how long to extend the play, and lets me try and read and flow with the game). Like me being a mason and doing this doesn't hit any of those.
geript
Profile Joined February 2013
10024 Posts
July 09 2015 22:01 GMT
#4465
Like the problem is that idk wtf Damdred is doing regardless of alignment. Like it's a cool play to make to cause confusion and shit. But idk what he could expect to get out of it as town. And it's also crazy. Plus if he is town, he'll 1000% understand what I'm doing and the play. But that's a really hard world for me to live in whatsoever.
geript
Profile Joined February 2013
10024 Posts
July 09 2015 22:25 GMT
#4477
On July 10 2015 07:01 Damdred wrote:
It's sad that Geript lost his reasoning. It's ok when I flip just look into Kel. Rs, milo

I might look into them before you flip. I will if you flip town. But damn dude, I'd pull that play if you gave me the chance to get that read on you.

If you're mafia, then it's whatever.
geript
Profile Joined February 2013
10024 Posts
July 09 2015 22:31 GMT
#4478
I want to be clear about something I saw HF posting on. There is a world where there's a Damdred-ritoky scumteam. One of the things I've been thinking about today (and why I shoot MZ before milo) is because I can see a world where milo is just a new player playing poorly and reading the game entirely wrong. And I think that my current concern is that people aren't really thinking or going to think about who to lynch next.
geript
Profile Joined February 2013
10024 Posts
July 09 2015 22:57 GMT
#4482
It's called a fake claim. And it was obvious.
geript
Profile Joined February 2013
10024 Posts
July 10 2015 17:37 GMT
#4772
You see the thing about running is that it's a little hard to start. After a bit, you'll build up your stamina but still have your ass worn out afterwords. You're able to do it by yourself but it's better with friends. Every once in a while it's so good you'll become a limp doll. So what else about sex?
geript
Profile Joined February 2013
10024 Posts
July 10 2015 20:22 GMT
#4871
On July 11 2015 05:20 marvellosity wrote:
i'm hoping a vigi shoots MZ in the face.

I want to reiterate this. I'm going to post a bit more tonight. But I don't see any reason not to shoot MZ or to shoot other people over MZ. Yes, shooting MZ is boring and expected and you'll get zero credit for it. However, it's important to note that he will 100% be lynched at some point. So by shooting him, it lets us gain more information than shooting anyone else.
geript
Profile Joined February 2013
10024 Posts
July 10 2015 22:07 GMT
#4994
So when I start calling Damdred not town early on are people going to start listening? Just saying, because I wanted to lynch him on D1.
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