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On June 19 2015 07:38 wherebugsgo wrote:Show nested quote +On June 19 2015 07:36 rsoultin wrote:On June 19 2015 07:33 wherebugsgo wrote:On June 19 2015 07:32 rsoultin wrote:On June 19 2015 07:29 wherebugsgo wrote:On June 19 2015 07:28 rsoultin wrote:On June 19 2015 07:25 Holyflare wrote:Final Day 1 Vote Count boxerfred (8): Holyflare, GlowingBear, Breshke, rsoultin, LightningStrike, Fidei86, Damdred, NydusHerMain, Onegu, Mig, ShoCkeyy, GlowingBearGlowingBear (7): wherebugsgo, KelsierSC, VayneAuthority, LightningStrike, Holyflare, KelsierSC, boxerfred, ShoCkeyy, Breshke, KelsierSCShoCkeyy (1): NydusHerMain, NydusHerMain, LightningStrike, KelsierSC, KelsierSC, GlowingBear, ritoky LightningStrike (0): KelsierSC, Onegu, GlowingBear, KelsierSC, ShoCkeyy, KelsierSCHolyflare (0): boxerfredOnegu (0): NydusHerMain, NydusHerMainLohengramm (0): VayneAuthorityKelsierSC (0): wherebugsgorsoultin (0): wherebugsgo, VayneAuthority, GlowingBear, Holyflarewherebugsgo (0): KelsierSCMig (0): wherebugsgoNot voted (1): Lohengramm Slipping from the ledge, boxerfred has fallen into the abyss. Day 1 has ended.after contemplating what happened at deadline after i've given countless reasons for gb to be mafia and to hold off lynch bf i've come to the conclusion that this is the most accurate vote count analysis lol i really really hope i'm right just cause of the egos that would make me laugh so hard possibly for days and if not well...i guess this is the last time gb can enjoy an rsoul defense for awhile xP so he'd better milk it while he can yet you don't seem to give a shit that you were wrong on BF?? ?? i said i thought gb was town and would vote bf or shockey to save him so the lurker was town okay, that sucks, but I DO NOT THINK this makes gb scum should i give a damn someone who can't be read well (or at least hadn't shown any sign that he could) was lynched as town over someone i believe is town who actually plays the game? cause i don't xP nice excuse for lynching town you're probably scum too tbh lol i'm the most confirmed town in existence  and yes i will always lynch a null or scumread over a townread and i WILL NOT apologize for it so go point fingers somewhere else big boy no shit if this is actually your mentality as town no wonder you're so terrible just like oneguseless who, if town, wasted his vote for half the day on an alleged town read
If you're town you're actually the worst here, since you only had one strong scumread and I am town.
At least Rsoultin can have correct reads
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On June 19 2015 07:43 Holyflare wrote:Show nested quote +On June 19 2015 07:40 Breshke wrote: Rsoul.
There was two reasons GB thought BF was scum in that post. 1 (some shit about kelsier) 2 (His first post)That post occured first.
HF then made a case on BF which involved point 1. GB then said no thats not right point 1 doesnt make him mafia anymore.
Therefore GB only had point 2 to call BF scum about since he no longer agreed with point 1.
Now I have no idea if this is all true iirc it is but you are misunderstanding what he is trying to say i think i love you
Wrong. I've never said point 1 doesn't apply.
My arguments were: the joke and he fact that the guy said he skinmed the thread but then focused only on HF and Kelsier, immediately calling HF scum. This is weird because if you skim the thread you will face Rsoultin and bugs discussion, and LS's claim with people getting on him. Locking arbitrarily on these two people felt off to me.
The points HF brought, tho, completely NAI.
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Alright, listen. I AM town.
I want to make this clear. If there is any point you need me to clear myself, please tell me. I can't continue playing if you keep tunneling me without reconsidering things
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On June 19 2015 07:51 Holyflare wrote:Show nested quote +On June 18 2015 11:09 GlowingBear wrote:a) picked something out at random and called it scummy for the sake of calling something scummy b) made a false timeline of events c) decided to ignore the actual reasons for the post and take the post of out context d) negate his entire post by asking a redundant meta question These reasons you picked from him to call him scum. I can see him coming from both perspectives regarding this Town POV (a) I can see a newbie looking at something that, for him, is scummy - someone displaying a self meta to call himself town. You saying that he did it just for the sake of calling something scummy is an interpretation of yours, but could not be his intention (nothing in his gameplay shows this - he actually voted you and pressured you) (b) 60 pages in 24 hours can make you mix things when you are skimming through the thread. You've seen me doing that as town quite a few times. (c) see point b (d) what question is that? Mafia POV 1) I think that it is weird that he says he skimmed through the topic but only payed attention in you and Kelsier. I don't see why a town would do that. More than that, he doesn't say much about Kelsier, the guy he payed more attention to. If he really skimmed the thread, I would expect the had an opinion on more proeminent players under discussion, like LS. This kind of disconnection sounds mafia to me. 2) Opening is mafia-ish, I expect townies to come to the thread and post whatever shit they want and keep going. He made an opening commenting someone's post (easier opening for mafia) + immediately peaced out. Why even bother posting? That's all I have on him. I read him as mafia, but I disagree with all your points. let's quote the whole post now let's quote the whole of the post you conveniently edited out of the first quote Show nested quote +On June 18 2015 02:44 Holyflare wrote:On June 18 2015 02:38 rsoultin wrote:On June 18 2015 02:33 Holyflare wrote:On June 18 2015 02:27 rsoultin wrote:On June 18 2015 02:23 Holyflare wrote:On June 18 2015 02:19 rsoultin wrote: Hf
Why is your read on me so wishy washy?
The tone of your posts flips from townreading to scumreading pretty much every other post. You're not pressuring a soul but the afk.
bugs we're not lynching me. Find a better target How is my read wishy washy in the slightest? and if you don't think I'm pressuring anyone i suggest you read the game again Kindly show me this pressure. Cause you're definitely doing nothing to figure out my alignment if that's what you're about to reference. If you.feel.strongly enough about it to not probe further you're not pursuing your read/push with any vigor, and if you're not referring to me you're being even less effective. you definitely haven't read the thread then, i just started pushing boxerfred for his atrocious post and even then if you ignore that you agreed with my would lynch list and if you agreed with my list then you'd realise that none of the people in that list are in the game really at the moment if you're craving my attention you'll be sorely disappointed ![[image loading]](http://media.giphy.com/media/4wAO1N5uusbMQ/giphy.gif) OMGUS I don't really care about one way or the otheryour list was okay cause it was mostly nullish players but it was boring Admittedly i'm wary of nd cause he doesn't know well and defensible when i'm the leading wagon makes my skin itch...ironically it's the strongest reason I can find to towmread you right now too... which needless to say is weak as shit If you think it's omgus then you do not understand what that term means in the slightest. He's done several scummy things in one post: a) picked something out at random and called it scummy for the sake of calling something scummy b) made a false timeline of events c) decided to ignore the actual reasons for the post and take the post of out context d) negate his entire post by asking a redundant meta question I don't believe he read the thread and pulled out that one post and was like "oh hey, that's the scummiest thing i've seen so far", it looks incredibly like he had to enter into the thread with something game related and picked out a person with spammy small posts and had to make a scum read on them it was super forced hey look there's that point of mine you stole while calling all of my points trash much convenient
HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA I swear I didn't read that part I've just read the letters HAHAHAHAHAHAHA
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On June 19 2015 07:52 wherebugsgo wrote:Show nested quote +On June 19 2015 07:51 rsoultin wrote:On June 19 2015 07:46 wherebugsgo wrote:On June 19 2015 07:45 rsoultin wrote:On June 19 2015 07:41 wherebugsgo wrote:On June 19 2015 07:39 rsoultin wrote:On June 19 2015 07:35 wherebugsgo wrote: like that answer makes no sense. it is YOUR fault that you lynched town because you voted for a townie. If you don't want to figure out why you were wrong it makes your play scummy.
So if you are really town you'll go back and reread all the shit we said on GB and reread everything that occurred while you were gone because you clearly have demonstrated an inability to read at least one player in the game so far.
Don't blame BF for him getting lynched when we know from his perspective that he was genuine given that he has flipped scum. That's a really convenient cop out given that the blame gets put on a player who no longer has any impact on the game. lol i'm not blaming bf...you're misreading what i'm saying i'm saying i don't care cause i think gb is still town so it doesn't matter you can scumread me (well you can do whatever you want actually) but you can JUSTIFIABLY scumread me if i don't make an effort to reevaluate or whatever but presuming that i won't and basing your read on that is ludicrous pull your head out your ass, kindly i don't need the lecture and i don't care what you think, cause your bs doesn't change my role pm it DOES matter because the best chance for us to hit scum tomorrow is to lynch into the boxerfred voting list. Since we're around now why don't you give me your #1 scumread? no i'm going to eat then review the game again though i agree scum was probably on both wagons, for what it's worth if I don't get something prior to the silence period I'm going to assume you are scum with GB ...you do realize that threatening me is likely to achieve the opposite of the intended effect i'll play the game the way i damn well please, and that includes trusting MY READS over yours, and taking the time to make those reads instead of adhering to your timetable this behavior is not as helpful to town as you seem to thing it is yes, cause trusting your read on BF has really worked out well for you so far. That mentality again makes no sense if you are town because you've already been proven to be dead wrong
Trusting your read would get a townie lynched too.
At least she correctly read me as town and you didn't.
Now, how about you stop throwing dirt on everyone and actually start thinking about the whole game? There are 4 madia and you are locked in only one
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On June 19 2015 07:53 Holyflare wrote:Show nested quote +On June 19 2015 07:53 GlowingBear wrote:On June 19 2015 07:51 Holyflare wrote:On June 18 2015 11:09 GlowingBear wrote:a) picked something out at random and called it scummy for the sake of calling something scummy b) made a false timeline of events c) decided to ignore the actual reasons for the post and take the post of out context d) negate his entire post by asking a redundant meta question These reasons you picked from him to call him scum. I can see him coming from both perspectives regarding this Town POV (a) I can see a newbie looking at something that, for him, is scummy - someone displaying a self meta to call himself town. You saying that he did it just for the sake of calling something scummy is an interpretation of yours, but could not be his intention (nothing in his gameplay shows this - he actually voted you and pressured you) (b) 60 pages in 24 hours can make you mix things when you are skimming through the thread. You've seen me doing that as town quite a few times. (c) see point b (d) what question is that? Mafia POV 1) I think that it is weird that he says he skimmed through the topic but only payed attention in you and Kelsier. I don't see why a town would do that. More than that, he doesn't say much about Kelsier, the guy he payed more attention to. If he really skimmed the thread, I would expect the had an opinion on more proeminent players under discussion, like LS. This kind of disconnection sounds mafia to me. 2) Opening is mafia-ish, I expect townies to come to the thread and post whatever shit they want and keep going. He made an opening commenting someone's post (easier opening for mafia) + immediately peaced out. Why even bother posting? That's all I have on him. I read him as mafia, but I disagree with all your points. let's quote the whole post now let's quote the whole of the post you conveniently edited out of the first quote On June 18 2015 02:44 Holyflare wrote:On June 18 2015 02:38 rsoultin wrote:On June 18 2015 02:33 Holyflare wrote:On June 18 2015 02:27 rsoultin wrote:On June 18 2015 02:23 Holyflare wrote:On June 18 2015 02:19 rsoultin wrote: Hf
Why is your read on me so wishy washy?
The tone of your posts flips from townreading to scumreading pretty much every other post. You're not pressuring a soul but the afk.
bugs we're not lynching me. Find a better target How is my read wishy washy in the slightest? and if you don't think I'm pressuring anyone i suggest you read the game again Kindly show me this pressure. Cause you're definitely doing nothing to figure out my alignment if that's what you're about to reference. If you.feel.strongly enough about it to not probe further you're not pursuing your read/push with any vigor, and if you're not referring to me you're being even less effective. you definitely haven't read the thread then, i just started pushing boxerfred for his atrocious post and even then if you ignore that you agreed with my would lynch list and if you agreed with my list then you'd realise that none of the people in that list are in the game really at the moment if you're craving my attention you'll be sorely disappointed ![[image loading]](http://media.giphy.com/media/4wAO1N5uusbMQ/giphy.gif) OMGUS I don't really care about one way or the otheryour list was okay cause it was mostly nullish players but it was boring Admittedly i'm wary of nd cause he doesn't know well and defensible when i'm the leading wagon makes my skin itch...ironically it's the strongest reason I can find to towmread you right now too... which needless to say is weak as shit If you think it's omgus then you do not understand what that term means in the slightest. He's done several scummy things in one post: a) picked something out at random and called it scummy for the sake of calling something scummy b) made a false timeline of events c) decided to ignore the actual reasons for the post and take the post of out context d) negate his entire post by asking a redundant meta question I don't believe he read the thread and pulled out that one post and was like "oh hey, that's the scummiest thing i've seen so far", it looks incredibly like he had to enter into the thread with something game related and picked out a person with spammy small posts and had to make a scum read on them it was super forced hey look there's that point of mine you stole while calling all of my points trash much convenient HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA I swear I didn't read that part I've just read the letters HAHAHAHAHAHAHA get the fuck out of here vig this guy
Don't get angry 
Don't VIGI me either 
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On June 19 2015 07:55 LightningStrike wrote:Show nested quote +On June 19 2015 07:53 wherebugsgo wrote: hey LS does rsoultin normally have such shitty opinions or is she actually scum this game She nomally have bad opinions from time to time hence I kept on telling her to sheep me after we talked to each other in the Obs QT for Newbie LX.
Lol you shouldn't be one to claim to have better reads than her.
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On June 19 2015 07:57 Holyflare wrote:Show nested quote +On June 19 2015 07:55 GlowingBear wrote:On June 19 2015 07:52 wherebugsgo wrote:On June 19 2015 07:51 rsoultin wrote:On June 19 2015 07:46 wherebugsgo wrote:On June 19 2015 07:45 rsoultin wrote:On June 19 2015 07:41 wherebugsgo wrote:On June 19 2015 07:39 rsoultin wrote:On June 19 2015 07:35 wherebugsgo wrote: like that answer makes no sense. it is YOUR fault that you lynched town because you voted for a townie. If you don't want to figure out why you were wrong it makes your play scummy.
So if you are really town you'll go back and reread all the shit we said on GB and reread everything that occurred while you were gone because you clearly have demonstrated an inability to read at least one player in the game so far.
Don't blame BF for him getting lynched when we know from his perspective that he was genuine given that he has flipped scum. That's a really convenient cop out given that the blame gets put on a player who no longer has any impact on the game. lol i'm not blaming bf...you're misreading what i'm saying i'm saying i don't care cause i think gb is still town so it doesn't matter you can scumread me (well you can do whatever you want actually) but you can JUSTIFIABLY scumread me if i don't make an effort to reevaluate or whatever but presuming that i won't and basing your read on that is ludicrous pull your head out your ass, kindly i don't need the lecture and i don't care what you think, cause your bs doesn't change my role pm it DOES matter because the best chance for us to hit scum tomorrow is to lynch into the boxerfred voting list. Since we're around now why don't you give me your #1 scumread? no i'm going to eat then review the game again though i agree scum was probably on both wagons, for what it's worth if I don't get something prior to the silence period I'm going to assume you are scum with GB ...you do realize that threatening me is likely to achieve the opposite of the intended effect i'll play the game the way i damn well please, and that includes trusting MY READS over yours, and taking the time to make those reads instead of adhering to your timetable this behavior is not as helpful to town as you seem to thing it is yes, cause trusting your read on BF has really worked out well for you so far. That mentality again makes no sense if you are town because you've already been proven to be dead wrong Trusting your read would get a townie lynched too. At least she correctly read me as town and you didn't. Now, how about you stop throwing dirt on everyone and actually start thinking about the whole game? There are 4 madia and you are locked in only one TIL that the op does not have the number of mafia in it gg glowingbear
-.- 17 players. You can assume there will be four Mafia or 5 if we have a ton of blues.
Please I'm really trying not to call you Mafia for saying these kind of stuff. Please help me. I don't want this to be another Christmas Carol
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YEAH, MA'AM! YOU TELL HIM!
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I'm really getting on my nerves with you.
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On June 19 2015 08:01 rsoultin wrote:you do realize if you're scum fooling me i will skiiiiiiiin you gb right >< just for making me look the fool and then writing posts like this lol no more advice on women problems for at least a week xP
I would never play with your heart like this
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On June 19 2015 08:02 Breshke wrote:HF i think him saying there is 4 mafia is a weak and doesn't really make him scum. GB who is your top scumread as of now? Has your read on me changed at all? Also not sidetrack anything but Show nested quote +On June 18 2015 22:46 LightningStrike wrote:Just woke up and had a question: On June 18 2015 17:48 Breshke wrote: Actually when he is back next I want LS to explain WHY he claimed there. I was tired of being pressured to the extreme from KSC so I claimed there...... Why does one person pressuring you make you claim when you know that is a bad play? One person alone can not lynch you and many others were townreading you.
Bugs, mig, Shockey
Yes, not you
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On June 19 2015 08:08 Breshke wrote:Show nested quote +On June 19 2015 08:05 GlowingBear wrote:On June 19 2015 08:02 Breshke wrote:HF i think him saying there is 4 mafia is a weak and doesn't really make him scum. GB who is your top scumread as of now? Has your read on me changed at all? Also not sidetrack anything but On June 18 2015 22:46 LightningStrike wrote:Just woke up and had a question: On June 18 2015 17:48 Breshke wrote: Actually when he is back next I want LS to explain WHY he claimed there. I was tired of being pressured to the extreme from KSC so I claimed there...... Why does one person pressuring you make you claim when you know that is a bad play? One person alone can not lynch you and many others were townreading you. Bugs, mig, Shockey Yes, not you What changed your read on me?
Nothing, actually. I just think that Shockey's wishy washy thing and his vote on me was weird Mig not voting me was weird Bugs not inquiring Mig for not voting me is weird.
You see, bugs is too comfortably tunneled
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On June 19 2015 08:11 LightningStrike wrote:Show nested quote +On June 19 2015 08:11 rsoultin wrote: -flops on ls-
hey you i don't appreciate the her reads are usually bad thing btw
they're not amazing, but i've had some damn good reads in my games If GB flips scum will bow down to HF and Bugs?
If I flip town will you understand how stupid you are for liking them both and downgrading Rsoultin's play when yours doesn't have half of the quality?
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Rsoultin, I think bugs is Mafia.
Am I tunneled?
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On June 19 2015 08:15 LightningStrike wrote:Show nested quote +On June 19 2015 08:14 GlowingBear wrote:On June 19 2015 08:11 LightningStrike wrote:On June 19 2015 08:11 rsoultin wrote: -flops on ls-
hey you i don't appreciate the her reads are usually bad thing btw
they're not amazing, but i've had some damn good reads in my games If GB flips scum will bow down to HF and Bugs? If I flip town will you understand how stupid you are for liking them both and downgrading Rsoultin's play when yours doesn't have half of the quality? I will bite my tongue if you flip town.
Don't do it, you will bleed to death
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On June 19 2015 08:16 KelsierSC wrote:Show nested quote +On June 19 2015 08:15 GlowingBear wrote: Rsoultin, I think bugs is Mafia.
Am I tunneled? Didn't you scum read breshke for something very like this. When he said "is that bad"
Content of the question is different.
I will review my case on him later to see if it really holds water or if I was being bad again
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Btw dear, you'll probably be dying tonight since you're the only one to read me properly
I have this WIFOM feeling that scum kept me alive so they can mislynch me tomorrow, and you would be a nuisance regarding that
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On June 19 2015 08:20 Breshke wrote:Show nested quote +On June 19 2015 08:12 GlowingBear wrote:On June 19 2015 08:08 Breshke wrote:On June 19 2015 08:05 GlowingBear wrote:On June 19 2015 08:02 Breshke wrote:HF i think him saying there is 4 mafia is a weak and doesn't really make him scum. GB who is your top scumread as of now? Has your read on me changed at all? Also not sidetrack anything but On June 18 2015 22:46 LightningStrike wrote:Just woke up and had a question: On June 18 2015 17:48 Breshke wrote: Actually when he is back next I want LS to explain WHY he claimed there. I was tired of being pressured to the extreme from KSC so I claimed there...... Why does one person pressuring you make you claim when you know that is a bad play? One person alone can not lynch you and many others were townreading you. Bugs, mig, Shockey Yes, not you What changed your read on me? Nothing, actually. I just think that Shockey's wishy washy thing and his vote on me was weird Mig not voting me was weird Bugs not inquiring Mig for not voting me is weird. You see, bugs is too comfortably tunneled But why am I not mafia anymore. All the things you said still stand and you seemed to still scumread me even after people reacted to your case. I don't see what has changed now. I don't see how having 3 other scumreads makes you drop your read on me who was your biggest scumread.
It's not that you aren't scun anymore, it's just that I have better targets now
Although after the pressure of being lynched disappeared I suddenly could think about you and your posts more calmly and the idea that I have being very bad is striking my head
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On June 19 2015 08:24 rsoultin wrote: (ftr bugs still think i'm right on gb despite that post he just posted that makes me twitch @.@, but yeah i'm not having much luck so far with the scumhunting this game i'll admit that readily...i feel like i'm having a better time with finding townreads and just hoping those are actually right)
I promise you I would never play with your heart as scum
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