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On June 19 2015 05:16 Holyflare wrote:Show nested quote +On June 19 2015 05:11 GlowingBear wrote:On June 19 2015 05:10 KelsierSC wrote:On June 19 2015 05:10 GlowingBear wrote:On June 19 2015 05:10 KelsierSC wrote:
##unvote
##vote Glowingbear Answer my points. I think hf and wbg did a good job of that already I'm not reading WBG because I think he is mafia or stupid I've answered those shitty answers from Holyflare no you didn't, you asked me specific questions which i definitely gave great answers to and you retorted with them with things completely irrelevant to the original question it's also fucking easy to just ask loaded questions like you're trying to do i've summarised your whole play this game and i don't think a town gb would be so mediocre the entire game, you had absolutely no passion about anything at all other than consolidating on lurkers, your only push was on breshke 40 hours into the day and it was so mediocre and kelsier quashed that very very easily so now there are 0 things that you say that have any relevance in this game
Alright. I've already defended myself. Think twice. Rethink what I've wrote. I can't do more than I'm doing this time.
You know that when I'm mafia I can't keep long hours of activity like I'm keeping it here.
Yes, I've played badly. I admit it. I preferred to talk a lot and have fun instead of actually doing work. Yes, I admit it. But I'm not mafia for it.
I'm glad you had higher expectations, tho.
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On June 19 2015 05:16 KelsierSC wrote:Show nested quote +On June 19 2015 05:15 GlowingBear wrote:
Everybody who is voting me, in case I realy get lynched, I want you all to say "I promise I will think twice before lyching one of the biggest filters day1" what's your read on bugs?
I think he is mafia for the things I've already said + his tunnel on me seems unnatural. Instead of trying to rethink me, to see me from all perspectives, he limits himself to call me mafia, to joke and discredit every single post I write. He is not trying to further inspect my alignment, he is content with just looking at me through only one perspective.
In the other hand, he is okay with boxerfred, evaluating his filter from both perspectives.
I think he is scum.
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On June 19 2015 05:20 Holyflare wrote:
like in no sane world can i wrap my head around someone scum reading someone and then getting proven wrong by like 5 different people and still keeping the same read
What are you talking about?
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By the way, VA bringing that awful "meta" thing makes me really inclined to believe he is mafia.
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On June 19 2015 05:23 Holyflare wrote:Show nested quote +On June 19 2015 05:22 GlowingBear wrote:On June 19 2015 05:20 Holyflare wrote:
like in no sane world can i wrap my head around someone scum reading someone and then getting proven wrong by like 5 different people and still keeping the same read What are you talking about? you threw all this meta about bugs and it got proven that you misrepresented it and you still stick to the same read of bugs being mafia because of the meta and his "unnatural push" which doesn't really feel unnatural at all same with breshke case
I think it feels unnatural. If you don't, alright.
I'm standing to my point because people are thinking that I said "HE WOULD LYNCH LURKERS LOLOLOL" when what I was trying to say is that "he was worried with lurkers there, he isn't here, and it's weird that he scumreads me for wanting to lynch lurkers"
And nobody responded to this.
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On June 19 2015 05:25 KelsierSC wrote:
quickly before I go
GB if you can link to a game of you putting all caps as town in this sort of situation it would be interesting
Hmm I can't remember like in this exact situation
Christma's Carol and the game I scumread Shockey for its entirety.
I think there was a newbie.
I do this all the time, man...
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On June 19 2015 05:27 Holyflare wrote:
always lynch scummy people not lurkers unless the lurker is scummy in which case you're still lynching the scummy person
lynching active people also gives you incredible information post flip for people's reactions and stances to the wagon whereas a lurker lynch is a massive cop out and people can just free ride it to a mislynch if they are mafia
you say day 1 is the hardest day to succeed and that's because there is no flip information, day 2 would be the same with a lurker lynch
You think there are no scummy lurkers in the game?
What happened to the boxer read?
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On June 19 2015 05:30 rsoultin wrote:
definitely carol -_- it irritated me no end that all he did was spam LYNCH HOLYFLARE
off a terrible case xP
as town
lol ><
And I was right.
As right as I am right now.
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On June 19 2015 05:31 Holyflare wrote:Show nested quote +On June 19 2015 05:30 rsoultin wrote:
definitely carol -_- it irritated me no end that all he did was spam LYNCH HOLYFLARE
off a terrible case xP
as town
lol >< *NB I WASN'T A LURKER LYNCH
She is talking about the caps lock thing
STOP PLAYING STUPID WHAT THE FUCK IS WRONG WITH YOU
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Argh, I can't read anymore, information isn't getting through my head.
I've defended myself as I could. If you have any questions, feel free to ask and I'll answer them as much as I can.
If you're open to see me from a town persperctive, take a look at the 5 questions I've brought on my filter. You will definetly realise it makes more sense of a play coming from town than from a mafia.
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On June 19 2015 05:33 Holyflare wrote:Show nested quote +On June 19 2015 05:31 GlowingBear wrote:On June 19 2015 05:31 Holyflare wrote:On June 19 2015 05:30 rsoultin wrote:
definitely carol -_- it irritated me no end that all he did was spam LYNCH HOLYFLARE
off a terrible case xP
as town
lol >< *NB I WASN'T A LURKER LYNCH She is talking about the caps lock thing STOP PLAYING STUPID WHAT THE FUCK IS WRONG WITH YOU No but your defence THIS game was that you ALWAYS want to vote on lurker lynches as town whereas that's not particularly the case. If you get intrigued about something you always push them with hell bent vigour. You have not done that in the slightest this game and instead just went for the lurkers until you were forced into a corner and have scum read 2 people that you don't even really care about lynching based on pretty weak reasons.
I didn't feel intrigued in this game
BUMMER
I've even stated that.
I've explained that I didn't feel forced and I could easily NOT bring the case to the thread and survive.
I would never put this much effort against my lynch as scum, either.
I've answered you all I could, HF. Rethink your read on me or lynch a townie.
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On June 19 2015 05:39 ritoky wrote:Show nested quote +On June 19 2015 05:37 GlowingBear wrote:
Argh, I can't read anymore, information isn't getting through my head.
I've defended myself as I could. If you have any questions, feel free to ask and I'll answer them as much as I can.
If you're open to see me from a town persperctive, take a look at the 5 questions I've brought on my filter. You will definetly realise it makes more sense of a play coming from town than from a mafia. Are all the mafia on your wagon? If you had to pick 1 person as mafia who is not on your wagon right now, who would it be?
Breshke
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On June 19 2015 05:41 ritoky wrote:Show nested quote +On June 19 2015 05:41 GlowingBear wrote:On June 19 2015 05:39 ritoky wrote:On June 19 2015 05:37 GlowingBear wrote:
Argh, I can't read anymore, information isn't getting through my head.
I've defended myself as I could. If you have any questions, feel free to ask and I'll answer them as much as I can.
If you're open to see me from a town persperctive, take a look at the 5 questions I've brought on my filter. You will definetly realise it makes more sense of a play coming from town than from a mafia. Are all the mafia on your wagon? If you had to pick 1 person as mafia who is not on your wagon right now, who would it be? Breshke Same case as before?
Yes.
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On June 19 2015 05:54 Mig wrote:
I am on my phone, but got caught up
Ritoky - Guess what I dont know everyones alignment, if someone says something that looks townie to me I will say it. I didnt say that post made LS town but it made me reconsider the possibility of it. Explain to me how exactly this makes me mafia.
GB- are you voting BF because you think there is a good chance he flips scum or just to save yourself?
If the caps lock stuck isnt AI can you post an example of you doing it as town? I cant look through past games atm.
Both. I'm trying to save myself and I think boxerfred is scummy, but not as much as bugs or Breshke
I can't right now, but I've already said Christmas carol. It's the first that comes to my mind. I actually do that in all games, mostly, and I don't get why such minor fact can alter anyone's read on me.
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I want everyone who is voting me to say WHY you DON'T want to vote boxer Fred instead
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On June 19 2015 06:12 Holyflare wrote:Show nested quote +Mafia POV
1) I think that it is weird that he says he skimmed through the topic but only payed attention in you and Kelsier. I don't see why a town would do that. More than that, he doesn't say much about Kelsier, the guy he payed more attention to. If he really skimmed the thread, I would expect the had an opinion on more proeminent players under discussion, like LS. This kind of disconnection sounds mafia to me.
2) Opening is mafia-ish, I expect townies to come to the thread and post whatever shit they want and keep going. He made an opening commenting someone's post (easier opening for mafia) + immediately peaced out. Why even bother posting?
That's all I have on him. I read him as mafia, but I disagree with all your points. everyone is voting with this guy who has these reasons for voting bf literally ignores everything and says it's because of his first post (the first point is something i already brought up and he said was shit and used it again anyway LOL) this guy thinks bf is mafia because of one post bf made 48 hours ago plzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz + Show Spoiler +
HF you know I'm voting boxerfred because going against scummy lurkers and that my townreads doesn't want to vote Breshke
Stop being stupid
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Lol. The guy is trying to justify a scumread on me instead simply admitting he is doing it for survival
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My defenses:
On June 19 2015 04:50 GlowingBear wrote:
I want you guys calling me scum to explain this:
1) Why would I bother building a case on Breshke if boxerfred is town? I could simply just agree with Holyflare and lynch him and fuck off.
2) Why would I call out tunnelus maximus bugs as mafia, knowing he would go against me? Why drawing so much attention?
3) Why would I, as mafia, intentionally flip my reads and call people mafia instead of keeping cool blending in with possible town?
4) Why would I bother creating a lynch list and try to organise town?
5) Why would, as mafia, call LS out but NOT voting him, unless we are mafia together? But as you can see, we can't be mafia together because he is willing to lynch me out of nothing.
I want you all to answer these.
On June 19 2015 05:01 GlowingBear wrote:Show nested quote +On June 19 2015 04:56 Holyflare wrote:On June 19 2015 04:50 GlowingBear wrote:
I want you guys calling me scum to explain this:
1) Why would I bother building a case on Breshke if boxerfred is town? I could simply just agree with Holyflare and lynch him and fuck off.
2) Why would I call out tunnelus maximus bugs as mafia, knowing he would go against me? Why drawing so much attention?
3) Why would I, as mafia, intentionally flip my reads and call people mafia instead of keeping cool blending in with possible town?
4) Why would I bother creating a lynch list and try to organise town?
5) Why would, as mafia, call LS out but NOT voting him, unless we are mafia together? But as you can see, we can't be mafia together because he is willing to lynch me out of nothing.
I want you all to answer these. 1) You have done absolutely no cases the entire thread and it's been 48 hours and you basically had no scum reads, I and several others had called you out for this. You were forced to make a case and it was bad as a result. 2) You have a MAJOR HABIT OF DOING THIS. Do not sit there and ask me why when in Game of Thrones YOU DID THE EXACT SAME THING TO ME WHEN YOU WERE MAFIA ROFL. 3) to appear "carefree" since someone has mentioned multiple times that you don't stick to people as mafia or whatever, the flaw is that you had little reasoning and absolutely no follow up and little care about what happened 4) lynching lurkers is the easiest cop out and YOU DIDN'T GIVE A SHIT ABOUT ANY OF THE CASES TO LYNCH MAFIA..............!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! 5) because you suck and know he does it as town all the fucking time and you'd look terrible if he flipped named vt 1) I wasn't FORCED, I did becauase I wanted to. He looks mafia to me. I could simply NOT make a case and survive if I was mafia. 2) I don't usually go after the big names when I'm mafia, this is not true. 3) So you think I would be THIS careless as scum? I've posted a full thought process in my reads in Game of Thrones Mafia. You know I'm capable of doing it, and incredibly, I do it better as scum. 4) You know I always advocate that as town. As mafia, of course I could use the plynch as a cop out, but I would NOT open the possibilities to town to CHOOSE who not to lynch. I would take the other way: influence their reads instead letting them influence mine. UNLESS you think ALL mafia are active, letting town choose who to lynch is almost suicidal. 5) This is a lazy answer and you're lazy to think this through. Read my question again and think again.
On June 19 2015 05:08 GlowingBear wrote:Show nested quote +On June 19 2015 04:59 Holyflare wrote:On June 19 2015 04:07 Holyflare wrote:On June 19 2015 03:52 wherebugsgo wrote:On June 19 2015 03:49 Holyflare wrote:On June 19 2015 03:09 wherebugsgo wrote:
actually rsoultin, Mig, Breshke and HF I want to read your opinions on GB too. Maybe at least one of you will respond so I have something to work with. We have like 5 hours and I don't want to lynch either BF or LS today Quite clearly stated i scum read him and the reasons why. Will be back in about an hour to talk about stuff. +gb where did i ever say the mafia team was all lurkers other than a sarcastic jab at you a while ago? care to jog my memory? I recall you posting something pointing out the consolidation thing but you can pretend I'm a goldfish for the purposes of this exercise. I just want to know that you have real opinions I can trust. But of course if you don't wanna play we can have it your way  Well it's on my last page of filter? Pretty much pushed gb all last night. Summary is: Hypocritical outlook on the game between you and himself Sheeps me while expressing disdain for the sheep (game of thrones meta same) Reads + questions that don't get followed up, aka va stuff etc (scum read on me completely vanished too) Started to afk and not do shit Got called out by me and still didn't do shit apart from asking me useless questions Said boxerfed read was shit, stayed on wagon anyway because of his read on boxerfreds first post???? Randomly nitpicked ls for no reason and then gave him a town pass for stuff that ls had already done before the nitpicking Says game is bad because no consolidation but just flat out refuses to even read cases on scummy people did no scum hunting while complaining about no consolidation Lurker cop out reasoning Misrepresents you and breshke hardcore Fake rage (game of thrones meta same) Probably shit tonne more that i forgot but this is top of my head this is a good reason to vote for mafia gb 1st point: hypocritical is an arbitrary interpretation. 2nd point: just because I did that as scum doesn't mean I wouldn't do it as town. 3rd point: reads and questions that didn't follow up were part of reaction testing and information gathering, which I think is the best thing to do day1 4th point: I don't think they were useless - again, arbitrary interpretation 5th point: Never said your read was shit, I said I could see him coming from a town perspective from the things you wrote and that I scumread him for another interpretation that considered MORE than his first post. 6th point: got tunneled because he said some stupid shit and got outside the tunnel thanks to rsoultin. Again, why would I do this unless we are scum together? 7th point: I am giving reads on EVERYONE. If they aren't thourough, that's another matter. I refused to TALK about active people because we could deal with them on day2, but since EVERYONE completely IGNORED this plead, I started calling out things. I attempt to consolidate by building a lynch list. 8th point: Lurker policy lynch is something I always do day1 as town, stop being stupid 9th point: Fake rage was 1 post and I always do that as town, you can't compare ONE SINGLE CAPS LOCK to what happened in Game of Thrones. It is completely different.
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On June 19 2015 06:18 Holyflare wrote:Show nested quote +On June 19 2015 06:14 GlowingBear wrote:On June 19 2015 06:12 Holyflare wrote:Mafia POV
1) I think that it is weird that he says he skimmed through the topic but only payed attention in you and Kelsier. I don't see why a town would do that. More than that, he doesn't say much about Kelsier, the guy he payed more attention to. If he really skimmed the thread, I would expect the had an opinion on more proeminent players under discussion, like LS. This kind of disconnection sounds mafia to me.
2) Opening is mafia-ish, I expect townies to come to the thread and post whatever shit they want and keep going. He made an opening commenting someone's post (easier opening for mafia) + immediately peaced out. Why even bother posting?
That's all I have on him. I read him as mafia, but I disagree with all your points. everyone is voting with this guy who has these reasons for voting bf literally ignores everything and says it's because of his first post (the first point is something i already brought up and he said was shit and used it again anyway LOL) this guy thinks bf is mafia because of one post bf made 48 hours ago plzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz + Show Spoiler + HF you know I'm voting boxerfred because going against scummy lurkers and that my townreads doesn't want to vote Breshke Stop being stupid LOL NO THIS IS WHY YOU VOTED HIM TO BEGIN WITH DON'T PUSH THIS BULL SHIT NOW. HE'S STILL YOUR SCUM READ. HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAAH HAH HAH HAH
I KEEP my vote on him for those things. Not that I suddenly decided to vote him for those reads.
I'd vote Breshke rather than him. But he is the only possible scummy lurker now
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On June 19 2015 06:23 ShoCkeyy wrote:
Ok this is twice I've been ignored. Just going to park my vote here until 10mins before lynch time. Let's see what happens.
##unvote
##vote GlowingBear
You know you've just put me in majority even if you Unvote.
I'd also lynch you in a pinch.
PLEASE, GLOWINGBEAR VOTERS, REPEAT WITH ME: "I WILL ALWAYS THINK TWICE BEFORE LYNCHING ONE OF THE BIGGEST FILTERS DAY1"
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