• Log InLog In
  • Register
Liquid`
Team Liquid Liquipedia
EDT 00:22
CEST 06:22
KST 13:22
  • Home
  • Forum
  • Calendar
  • Streams
  • Liquipedia
  • Features
  • Store
  • EPT
  • TL+
  • StarCraft 2
  • Brood War
  • Smash
  • Heroes
  • Counter-Strike
  • Overwatch
  • Liquibet
  • Fantasy StarCraft
  • TLPD
  • StarCraft 2
  • Brood War
  • Blogs
Forum Sidebar
Events/Features
News
Featured News
Serral wins EWC 202519Tournament Spotlight: FEL Cracow 20259Power Rank - Esports World Cup 202580RSL Season 1 - Final Week9[ASL19] Finals Recap: Standing Tall15
Community News
[BSL 2025] H2 - Team Wars, Weeklies & SB Ladder2EWC 2025 - Replay Pack2Google Play ASL (Season 20) Announced33BSL Team Wars - Bonyth, Dewalt, Hawk & Sziky teams10Weekly Cups (July 14-20): Final Check-up0
StarCraft 2
General
Greatest Players of All Time: 2025 Update #1: Maru - Greatest Players of All Time Serral wins EWC 2025 Power Rank - Esports World Cup 2025 EWC 2025 - Replay Pack
Tourneys
TaeJa vs Creator Bo7 SC Evo Showmatch Sparkling Tuna Cup - Weekly Open Tournament FEL Cracov 2025 (July 27) - $10,000 live event Esports World Cup 2025 $25,000 Streamerzone StarCraft Pro Series announced
Strategy
How did i lose this ZvP, whats the proper response
Custom Maps
External Content
Mutation # 484 Magnetic Pull Mutation #239 Bad Weather Mutation # 483 Kill Bot Wars Mutation # 482 Wheel of Misfortune
Brood War
General
Help: rep cant save Shield Battery Server New Patch Google Play ASL (Season 20) Announced [G] Progamer Settings StarCraft & BroodWar Campaign Speedrun Quest
Tourneys
[BSL] Non-Korean Championship - Final weekend [Megathread] Daily Proleagues [BSL20] Non-Korean Championship 4x BSL + 4x China CSL Xiamen International Invitational
Strategy
Does 1 second matter in StarCraft? Simple Questions, Simple Answers Muta micro map competition [G] Mineral Boosting
Other Games
General Games
Nintendo Switch Thread Stormgate/Frost Giant Megathread Total Annihilation Server - TAForever [MMORPG] Tree of Savior (Successor of Ragnarok) Path of Exile
Dota 2
Official 'what is Dota anymore' discussion
League of Legends
Heroes of the Storm
Simple Questions, Simple Answers Heroes of the Storm 2.0
Hearthstone
Heroes of StarCraft mini-set
TL Mafia
TL Mafia Community Thread Vanilla Mini Mafia
Community
General
US Politics Mega-thread UK Politics Mega-thread Russo-Ukrainian War Thread Stop Killing Games - European Citizens Initiative Things Aren’t Peaceful in Palestine
Fan Clubs
INnoVation Fan Club SKT1 Classic Fan Club!
Media & Entertainment
Anime Discussion Thread [\m/] Heavy Metal Thread Movie Discussion! [Manga] One Piece Korean Music Discussion
Sports
2024 - 2025 Football Thread Formula 1 Discussion TeamLiquid Health and Fitness Initiative For 2023 NBA General Discussion
World Cup 2022
Tech Support
Gtx660 graphics card replacement Installation of Windows 10 suck at "just a moment" Computer Build, Upgrade & Buying Resource Thread
TL Community
TeamLiquid Team Shirt On Sale The Automated Ban List
Blogs
Ping To Win? Pings And Their…
TrAiDoS
momentary artworks from des…
tankgirl
from making sc maps to makin…
Husyelt
StarCraft improvement
iopq
Socialism Anyone?
GreenHorizons
Eight Anniversary as a TL…
Mizenhauer
Customize Sidebar...

Website Feedback

Closed Threads



Active: 498 users

Mafia in the Himalayas - Page 11

Forum Index > TL Mafia
Post a Reply
Prev 1 9 10 11 12 13 Next All
ruXxar
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
Norway5669 Posts
July 01 2015 22:48 GMT
#5011
Mafia won't kill me when I'm still somewhat on the radar as scum.
They want to give away as little information as possible by killing the "confirmed town".
"alright guys im claiming my role im actually politician I can manipulate a persons vote during the day phase, used it on clarity last phase and forced him to vote for HF. full role name donald trump, definitely town sided". - EBH
ruXxar
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
Norway5669 Posts
July 01 2015 22:52 GMT
#5012
It's strange that you think that you will be killed when mafia can use you as a scapegoat if you're town...
"alright guys im claiming my role im actually politician I can manipulate a persons vote during the day phase, used it on clarity last phase and forced him to vote for HF. full role name donald trump, definitely town sided". - EBH
ruXxar
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
Norway5669 Posts
July 01 2015 23:11 GMT
#5014
On July 02 2015 07:55 Damdred wrote:
I 100% believe I can solve any game i'm in, which means i'm prime to be killed once people start thinking i'm towny in some way.

But what person is confirmed town now? LS isn't confirmed he could of been framed for a green check, oneg and hf have some form of triple bus theory on them. NHM has fallen off the face of the earth, you could of been carrying a kp.

So the next nk would give us a lot of information more than likely.


What you believe and how people perceive you are two completely separate things.

And when was the last time someone raised suspicion on LS or NHM?
"alright guys im claiming my role im actually politician I can manipulate a persons vote during the day phase, used it on clarity last phase and forced him to vote for HF. full role name donald trump, definitely town sided". - EBH
ruXxar
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
Norway5669 Posts
July 01 2015 23:33 GMT
#5018
Because you are using faulty logic to spread misinformation.
"alright guys im claiming my role im actually politician I can manipulate a persons vote during the day phase, used it on clarity last phase and forced him to vote for HF. full role name donald trump, definitely town sided". - EBH
ruXxar
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
Norway5669 Posts
July 01 2015 23:45 GMT
#5020
I'm not saying that a no-lynch is a bad idea.

I see how from a statistics point of view it'll help us out because then we'll be 3v2 and the chance of lynching into scum is higher than if it was 4v2.

It's also true that we'll get more time to find information, find out who the scum are, which is not a bad thing.
Since it's a mylo situation anyway, a no-lynch doesn't really hurt us in any way I can think of.

I think a no-lynch is actually a fine idea.
"alright guys im claiming my role im actually politician I can manipulate a persons vote during the day phase, used it on clarity last phase and forced him to vote for HF. full role name donald trump, definitely town sided". - EBH
ruXxar
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
Norway5669 Posts
July 01 2015 23:47 GMT
#5021
You were using faulty logic to conclude that you were likely to get shot, which i pointed out.
"alright guys im claiming my role im actually politician I can manipulate a persons vote during the day phase, used it on clarity last phase and forced him to vote for HF. full role name donald trump, definitely town sided". - EBH
ruXxar
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
Norway5669 Posts
July 01 2015 23:49 GMT
#5022
Let's no make a big deal out of a small thing like this.

We should keep it well tempered so that we can be productive working together.
"alright guys im claiming my role im actually politician I can manipulate a persons vote during the day phase, used it on clarity last phase and forced him to vote for HF. full role name donald trump, definitely town sided". - EBH
ruXxar
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
Norway5669 Posts
July 01 2015 23:51 GMT
#5023
How would we go about a no-lynch?

Do we just ##vote no-lynch and if it gets more votes than a person it's a no-lynch?
"alright guys im claiming my role im actually politician I can manipulate a persons vote during the day phase, used it on clarity last phase and forced him to vote for HF. full role name donald trump, definitely town sided". - EBH
ruXxar
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
Norway5669 Posts
July 01 2015 23:54 GMT
#5025
6. You may not vote for a no-lynch.


Well then...
We made a big fuss out of nothing. Good job us!
"alright guys im claiming my role im actually politician I can manipulate a persons vote during the day phase, used it on clarity last phase and forced him to vote for HF. full role name donald trump, definitely town sided". - EBH
ruXxar
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
Norway5669 Posts
July 01 2015 23:58 GMT
#5026
Ok so I'm trying to think outside the box a bit.

We know that there was a framer in the game.
LS was a hot topic of debate on day 1 due to his blue claim.

I don't find it unreasonable for mafia to have framed him night 1, and that the greencheck actually was a swap from his red alignment.

I mean, if GB found it reasonable to check LS, it's not unlikely that the mafia thought along the same lines and framed him.
In that case LS could perhaps be mafia?

I need to re-read his filter to see if I can find any supporting evidence.
"alright guys im claiming my role im actually politician I can manipulate a persons vote during the day phase, used it on clarity last phase and forced him to vote for HF. full role name donald trump, definitely town sided". - EBH
ruXxar
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
Norway5669 Posts
July 02 2015 00:02 GMT
#5027
At least a lot of my reason for giving LS a pass until now was that he had the green-check on him.
He just stayed outside my field of vision when I was scum hunting.
But now that we know there was a framer in the game, I can't just automatically assume that the green-check is valid anymore.
"alright guys im claiming my role im actually politician I can manipulate a persons vote during the day phase, used it on clarity last phase and forced him to vote for HF. full role name donald trump, definitely town sided". - EBH
ruXxar
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
Norway5669 Posts
July 02 2015 00:03 GMT
#5028
I'll look through LS and see what I can find tomorrow.
Good night everyone
"alright guys im claiming my role im actually politician I can manipulate a persons vote during the day phase, used it on clarity last phase and forced him to vote for HF. full role name donald trump, definitely town sided". - EBH
ruXxar
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
Norway5669 Posts
July 02 2015 13:30 GMT
#5039
On July 02 2015 11:20 LightningStrike wrote:
Also the fact that Shockeyy had been on me since Day 1 should of cleared my alignment that I am 100% Town.......


So I looked into LS and I couldn't find anything that would make me believe he's anymore mafia than he was before the framer flipped.

He's consistently been on shockey throughout the game and it feels genuine.
His blueclaim notwithstanding my spidersenses don't ring any bells when it comes to LS.
"alright guys im claiming my role im actually politician I can manipulate a persons vote during the day phase, used it on clarity last phase and forced him to vote for HF. full role name donald trump, definitely town sided". - EBH
ruXxar
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
Norway5669 Posts
July 02 2015 14:50 GMT
#5043
So right now I feel like I'm in a strange place.

My preferred order of lynching looking at people in isolation would be :

Onegu
HF
Damdred

I feel like damdred has been acting a bit strange lately though.
Not sure what's going on with him.
Feels like he's a bit emotionally unstable?

Calling us "fucking idiots" for thinking he's scum, and now lashing out in anger when I'm just having a regular conversation with him pointing out his flaws.

Don't know if he's stressed out or overly defensive.
Trying to bring suspicion onto LS and NHM when I frankly don't see why he would have any reason to do so.

At least give us some reasons why you'd think they are suspicious instead of just saying "there's something wrong" with them, and not doing any work to back it up.

Yes there's a framer in the game, and yes LS could've been framed.
But you have been hard town reading him all game and now you want to bring suspicion onto him?

And I frankly don't agree about NHM.
I feel like his presence has been pretty solid overall the last cycles tbh.

Do some work instead of just throwing out names like that.
"alright guys im claiming my role im actually politician I can manipulate a persons vote during the day phase, used it on clarity last phase and forced him to vote for HF. full role name donald trump, definitely town sided". - EBH
ruXxar
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
Norway5669 Posts
July 02 2015 15:45 GMT
#5046
On July 03 2015 00:33 Damdred wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 02 2015 23:50 ruXxar wrote:
So right now I feel like I'm in a strange place.

My preferred order of lynching looking at people in isolation would be :

Onegu
HF
Damdred

I feel like damdred has been acting a bit strange lately though.
Not sure what's going on with him.
Feels like he's a bit emotionally unstable?

Calling us "fucking idiots" for thinking he's scum, and now lashing out in anger when I'm just having a regular conversation with him pointing out his flaws.

Don't know if he's stressed out or overly defensive.
Trying to bring suspicion onto LS and NHM when I frankly don't see why he would have any reason to do so.

At least give us some reasons why you'd think they are suspicious instead of just saying "there's something wrong" with them, and not doing any work to back it up.

Yes there's a framer in the game, and yes LS could've been framed.
But you have been hard town reading him all game and now you want to bring suspicion onto him?

And I frankly don't agree about NHM.
I feel like his presence has been pretty solid overall the last cycles tbh.

Do some work instead of just throwing out names like that.


Actually this is a really weird post to me.

1) You make a list post that contains who you think is scummy. That is actually good somewhat however
2) Instead of talking about hf or oneg your top scum reads you decided to talk about scum read 3.
3) None of what you say leads into any form of conclusions or a stance it is just a lot of words that come out to nothing?
4) completely leave out context of our conversation on voting a no lynch to get the information from a nk.

I actually kind of think rux could be scum. His post is really strange and at points it reads as straight discrediting and avoiding the context of our conversation to make me look scummy. And the do the work thing, would you tell your scum reads to do work? No you tell town to do wotk

lunch then back


Oh I've said more than enough about my top 2 scumreads.
You're welcome to look through my filter if it's not clear enough.

Right now I'm trying to figure out if I want to bump you higher on that list, since you are acting all strange lately.

No stance? My scumlist is my current stance.

And you're the one that missed the context when with my fault logic comment i was referring to the reason for you getting shot, not that we shouldn't no-lynch.


About work: I expect town people to do their duty and carry their part of the burden by contributing.
If you want to convince me that you're not scum, then as I say to people I scum read, not just you, do some work and help us find the rest of the scum.
That is the *best* way you can convince me that you're not scum.

If you can't be bothered to do that then .. well... that's your prerogative.
"alright guys im claiming my role im actually politician I can manipulate a persons vote during the day phase, used it on clarity last phase and forced him to vote for HF. full role name donald trump, definitely town sided". - EBH
ruXxar
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
Norway5669 Posts
July 02 2015 15:47 GMT
#5047
@Onegu:

Can you give me a summary of why you are suspecting HF, and who your other suspects are and why?
"alright guys im claiming my role im actually politician I can manipulate a persons vote during the day phase, used it on clarity last phase and forced him to vote for HF. full role name donald trump, definitely town sided". - EBH
ruXxar
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
Norway5669 Posts
July 02 2015 17:53 GMT
#5051
On July 03 2015 02:51 NydusHerMain wrote:
How do we no lynch?


It's not allowed by the rules.
"alright guys im claiming my role im actually politician I can manipulate a persons vote during the day phase, used it on clarity last phase and forced him to vote for HF. full role name donald trump, definitely town sided". - EBH
ruXxar
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
Norway5669 Posts
July 02 2015 20:35 GMT
#5058
On July 03 2015 01:40 Damdred wrote:
A random lost post isn't a stance, a stance is I want to lynch x person. Or I think X is scum because of Y.

I know you haven't played much to this point but in lylo it is not my responsibility to dig through you filter to figure out your cases. It is my responsibility to dig through filters to figure out if you are sxum.

For example if I want to lynch Y today it is my job to remind everyone why Y is acum rather than look busy doing things talking about Z.

As such what I state still stands, you say a decent amount in that without saying anything really. For example my little idiots isn't really a big emotional outburst, if you continue playing on these forums you will come to find I'm really really mild.

But on another note you keep talking about what town should do today however you don't really show a lot of work yourself just bashing me for most of the day tbh so far

Back to lunch


Well then.

Allow me to remind you why we should lynch onegu today:

Exhibit A:
+ Show Spoiler +
So, in the hunt for more mafia, I want to take a closer look at the vote count.
+ Show Spoiler +
On June 25 2015 06:56 Fecalfeast wrote:
Day 3 Vote Count


Holyflare (2): rsoultin, GlowingBear, LightningStrike, Onegu, ruXxar, Fidei86, NydusHerMain
GlowingBear (5): VayneAuthority, Mig, Holyflare, LightningStrike, Onegu
Mig (3): ruXxar, rsoultin, Fidei86
Damdred (0): Holyflare
rsoultin (0): Onegu

Not voted (2): ShoCkeyy, Damdred

Clinging to the ledge, GlowingBear hangs over the abyss.
Day 3 ends in at 22:00 GMT (+00:00).

The voting thread is here.

Only votes in the voting thread will be counted.



Given that GB did the checks that he said he did, mafia would be desperate to get GB lynched, and would be all over voting for him.
I find it highly likely that some of the mafia can be found here:

GlowingBear (5): VayneAuthority, Mig, Holyflare, LightningStrike, Onegu

This supports the theory that onegu could be mafia.

Day 1:

I don't think that LS and Onegu are mafia together, judging from the way that Onegu tunneled LS *hard* day 1 and wanted him lynched.
He even went so far as to be willing to lynch LS even if it meant losing the game, just to teach him a lesson.
That's a mafia play. The rules says to play to win, and that was exactly what he was doing.
On June 18 2015 23:40 Onegu wrote:
I dont care if the claim is townie. Dont give 2 shits. LS needs to die so he learns a lesson for future games. I am still reading this huge ass thread...
On June 18 2015 23:43 Onegu wrote:
Dont give 2 shits once again. Dont care his alignment. I care about him stopping this.
On June 18 2015 23:54 Onegu wrote:
Also I will be honest I think LS is town.
On June 19 2015 06:49 Onegu wrote:
LS still needs to die. Dont worry I dont plan on being useless all game...
On June 19 2015 23:04 Onegu wrote:
again dont care if he is town either, want to lynch LS

How much more anti-town can you get?

Day 3:

GB claims he got a redcheck on rsoul.
On June 23 2015 12:56 GlowingBear wrote:
I've got a red check on you, dear.

Onegu jumps at the chance of voting for rsoul:
On June 23 2015 12:58 Onegu wrote:
HAHAHAHAHA HEADSHOT!!!!!

##Vote Rsoultin

No greater pleasure!

And he was eager to accept the thought of fidei and rsoul being mafia
On June 23 2015 13:04 Onegu wrote:
So if this is true you have 3 scum. Fidei, rsoul, and mig right?

Turns out GB was joking to get a reaction out of people. And he sure did get a reaction out of onegu.
On June 23 2015 13:07 GlowingBear wrote:
I'm kidding, just wanted some reactions from people online

My red check is on holyflare THANK GOD YOU PRICK YOU PLAYED TOO MUCH WITH MY HEART


Adding to that Onegu has barely done anything pro town the whole game.
I find it likely that Onegu is mafia

This is how my world aligns right now with the latest votes:


Day 3 Vote Count


Holyflare (2): GlowingBear, NydusHerMain
GlowingBear (5): VayneAuthority, Mig, Holyflare, LightningStrike, Onegu
Mig (3): ruXxar, rsoultin, Fidei86

Not voted (2): ShoCkeyy, Damdred


I'll look further into the people I'm unsure about.


Exhibit B:
+ Show Spoiler +
On June 28 2015 01:19 Onegu wrote:
So I am now thinking HF may actually be town and High chance that LS is scum here.

That post where he says HF has to be scum is just so random. The one where he says he was framed because he is miller which means HF has to be scum. Like how does town think of that. That is just one more post that is TMI. TBF HF wasnt killed in GoT mafia until the night before 2v1 lylo. Yes he should be dead but its not impossible for him to be alive as town here.

So I am going to go with Mig, LS, RuXxar, and X.


Let me get this straight onegu.
Not only are you saying that the red check on HF was because he's a miller or framed, but you're *also* saying that the green check on LS was due to him being framed or being miller?
I don't even... What kind of fantasy world is that?
Do you know how absurd that is?
I don't understand how anyone could even *begin* to think that is a sensible conclusion if they are town.

For all the TMI accusations you're throwing about, you sure seem to know a lot.

I don't even...
Let's follow onegus story and see how ridiculous it is.

First you said this day 1:

On June 18 2015 23:40 Onegu wrote:
I dont care if the claim is townie. Dont give 2 shits. LS needs to die so he learns a lesson for future games. I am still reading this huge ass thread...
On June 18 2015 23:43 Onegu wrote:
Dont give 2 shits once again. Dont care his alignment. I care about him stopping this.
On June 18 2015 23:54 Onegu wrote:
Also I will be honest I think LS is town.
On June 19 2015 06:49 Onegu wrote:
LS still needs to die. Dont worry I dont plan on being useless all game...
On June 19 2015 23:04 Onegu wrote:
again dont care if he is town either, want to lynch LS


Note the red line.

Yet somehow you couldn't let go of your idea of wanting to "policy lynch" LS, so after the greencheck on LS comes in you have to make up some other excuse to confirm your confirmation bias.
"Oh right, he was framed or is a GF."
On top of that you believe that HF is a miller or got framed.
Why don't you just tell me the lottery numbers for next week too?

Like, do you realize how seriously unlikely your scenarios are?
I was going to vote for HF tomorrow. After this, I really want to vote for you instead.


Exhibit C:
+ Show Spoiler +
Onegu, why do you only show up when you're actually under suspicion?

You show 0 interest in wanting to solve the game, only show up to throw out one liners and don't even bother reading the thread.

On June 30 2015 13:52 Onegu wrote:
Like why me over Shockky? Like he is faking anger at this point to get a mislynch in lylo


What is there to fake?
Your play is honestly pissing me off.
You're shitting on everyone elses time when you decide not to play the game.
Did you sign up just to stay afk until the end?

On June 30 2015 14:42 Onegu wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 30 2015 13:57 NydusHerMain wrote:
On June 30 2015 13:55 Onegu wrote:
On June 30 2015 13:53 NydusHerMain wrote:
Yeah I'm sorry... I honestly just don't trust my reads that much because I was totally okay with all the mislynches so far because I thought they were scum... so I'm just trying to find some associative read >.> ...



??? You are trying to find associative reads now in lylo when only one scum have flipped?


Have you read the thread? O.o



Nope not all of it yet...


You don't even read the thread

On June 30 2015 14:44 Onegu wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 30 2015 06:58 ruXxar wrote:
On June 29 2015 10:55 NydusHerMain wrote:
On June 29 2015 10:51 Holyflare wrote:
On June 29 2015 10:44 NydusHerMain wrote:
She wanted to lynch MiG at the end and she wanted to lynch you quickly after. It's weird for her to finally die when she's been leading a shit ton of mislynches? Also, I'm not mafia so I'm just going to defend myself like you've been doing for the last couple of days. "ermahgerd I'm not mafia so like ya'll are dum dums"

Anyways, check MiG's filter peeps. Damdred is like his tunnelled scum for a while. I don't think Damdred should be on the table today for lynching. He also only talks about HF when asked to by RS.


This bolded is quite a misrepresentation. I haven't been defending myself like you're insinuating and I find it unlikely that you can say that having said that you are reading the thread.

On June 25 2015 02:51 NydusHerMain wrote:
On June 25 2015 02:34 Holyflare wrote:
why would you not read everything i wrote before coming to a conclusion? i think the things i've written are pretty damning anyway, for GB and Damdred at least


You looked bored so I gave a quick post before reading




On June 25 2015 08:25 NydusHerMain wrote:
On June 25 2015 08:22 Holyflare wrote:
problem is i don't flip red


I think that you trying so hard near the end makes you leaning town. What I'm thinking is that if MiG made that claim, he had to have been talking to his partners about it in mafia QT. Why would you be trying so hard as if you're the lynch if you're scum partners with MiG and know that he's about to fake claim? It's kinda awkward. I dunno. We'll see later on since this game is about to get into crazy LyLo and I'm unconfirmed so gonna make it til the end (hopefully).


I find it hard how you can say the first bolded after making your stance on me clear the day before (above)

Did you run out of mislynches to push? Nothing has changed since then other than rsoultin relentlessly tunneling on situations that didn't make sense and me correcting her. If you'd like a thorough explanation on why I'll be happy to provide it. Keep on keeping on with your scummy stance changes for no reason though!


What the fuck? You think that if I'm mafia, you're the mislynch I try to land on? You think I'm going to run out of scummy people? Dude, if I'm scum, at least one of damdred, onegu, shockey is town. I can push damdred on inactivity, I can push onegu on inactivity and his LS push, I can push shockey for being scummy overall. Oh wait, I have been pushing on almost all of them this entire game. Everyone who's alive today? I've pushed on except for you until now.


I also agree with nydus point here.

Right now the absolutely easiest mislynch is Onegu(imo).
If I was mafia and onegu was town I would make her my #1 target right now and push her very hard.


This is sort of a dilemma because he actually does appear really scummy and I don't agree with the way he plays or the logic he uses.

However, since no one else seems to be shitting down onegu's throat, it makes me more inclined to believe he's actually mafia(why wouldn't mafia be all over a target that is such an easy mislynch?!)

In my last game I got fooled by the "too obvious to be scum" idea in that I felt a certain person made such obviously scummy moves that no one would make it so obvious that they are scum.

It burned me in the end when it turned out the person was scum all along and I hard defended him as town.
I learned from this and at this point "too scummy to be scum" is not a valid excuse for me to not push someone.



LOL, who is he voting for town onegu


And you didn't even read the whole quote here where I even explained WHY I'm voting for you.
I want to vote you because you're playing like scum, and at this point your whole attitude towards the game is terrible.
Like, just read the posts I made against you and respond to what I'm actually saying.
Explain your actions in a logical manner that makes your line of thought clear to everyone.

On June 30 2015 15:38 Onegu wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 30 2015 03:10 Damdred wrote:
Its a really tough game honestly, I'm like 99.9% sure that LS is town in this situation and I sort of hope hes scum just so I can be proud of him changing his meta in a way I didn't think he could.

FId is confirmed town

I know i'm town obviously.

This leaves me in a world where all I have to do is find town in Onegu, Shockey, HF, NHM and Rux. There are two towns and three mafia in this group.

Content wise HF could look ok, red check withstanding I still want some more of his thoughts around the GB lynch.

Oneg has 0 real content voted with his mafia read in lynching GB which was headed by confirmed mafia mig.

Shockey is sort of weird.

Rux could of carried a shot and got blocked or been shot, he seem to be trying to solve the game though that is true, but isn't really evolving his reads in a way.

Its a sort of a hard game at thi sjuncture though



Yeah and I voted with my tunneled mafia read you in Boring.

So I have found the scum team.

RuXxar, Shockky, Damdred.

I think I get lynched now though for dropping my LS scum read...


Suddenly you're accusing damdred out of thin air for what? He made 1 comment about you?

You're so defensive about getting accused and unwilling to actually defend yourself with logical arguments.
Instead resorting to OMGUS and making up wild scenarios that fit your world where LS is scum.
You don't even bother to show up if you're not in danger.

It's not hard to substantiate your claims if you actually have a REASON for doing so.
How do you expect me to ever trust you as town when you give me NOTHING to work with.


On June 30 2015 15:42 Onegu wrote:
ruXxar because all game he has been attempting to make players look worse than they actually are, and now wanting to PLynch me in Lylo after calling me the easiest mislynch.


Trying to make people look worse?

You said this right after I joined the game.
Please explain how I tried to make people look worse?

At least I'm fucking trying to play the game and do shit, unlike you.

And yeah I want to lynch you right now and if you actually READ the thread and what I've said about you,
you wouldn't have a problem understanding WHY I'm voting for you.

And if you still don't understand, then FUCKING ASK?!!!!
How hard is that?!!!!

Instead you show up with your bs "Onegu rule rekt" crap and 0 reasons for anything.
Yeah, I'm not making the same mistake as my last game.
I want you dead.


Exhibit D:
+ Show Spoiler +
On June 30 2015 21:41 Fidei86 wrote:
Ruxx - I think you're town here. I was in the last game with Onegu and he played exactly the same as he has here (more or less). I wanted to lynch him at lylo too, but I realised (as you did) that we shouldn't end this game on a coin flip. If he's town, which I think he is, then he'll start giving a shit once it gets much closer to the end.

Next game I say we policy lynch him at the start. But this game, I don't think that's the play.


I can't buy this excuse.

Onegu is playing EXACTLY like Sulfurus(a scum in my last game).
That was my newbie game(first game) and it was Sulfurus second game I think.

Well turned out people actually went and read Sulfurus meta from his first game.
And he played EXACTLY the same way in both games.
Guess what, in the first game he was actually town, so it only strengthened my belief in him being "shitty town".
But you know what, that was his plan all along.
He was emulating his town meta to throw people off.
I bought into it like the fool I was.

I'm not going to base my reads on meta. I'm going to base it on what they do in the game.
And in this game, onegu is playing like scum.


Exhibit E:
+ Show Spoiler +
On July 01 2015 03:02 Onegu wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 01 2015 02:50 Holyflare wrote:
On July 01 2015 02:49 Fidei86 wrote:
Onegu played exactly the same way as this in HG and he was town then too.


no he plays like that every game and you don't really know what makes the difference between town onegu or mafia onegu



Stop being bad. Lynch RuXxar or Shockky today. I am playing now so suck it. Also why does scum onegu not push you today?

Like HF can never read me. Since we were in newbies together.

@RuXxar Why do I need to defend myself at this point we are still 4 hours from lynch and I am not dieing. And like your only reason for scum reading me is I am not doing anything... Well guess what I am now so your arguement is void.

Damdred is being dumb/mafia because he knows for a fact I am willing to vote with my tunneled scum read as town.

Also ruXxar the point about you making people look worse, you did it with VA and me right as you came in the game.

Shockky because onegu rule. And also knowing my meta and thinking this is my scum play.



I need you to actually do something at all, because basically this is ALL that you gameplan encompasses:

1. Be afk.
2. Show up when people accuse you.
3. Be afk.
4. Show up to vote.
5. Be afk.

And you showing up here and saying "I'm here" doesnt mean that you are ACTUALLY doing something!

Yes I analyzed you as I came into the game and your filter looked like shit.
Guess what? It still does.

You're going to call me scum for scumreading you? Really?
You even KNEW that you looked like scum, so why do you hold that against me?
On June 21 2015 12:13 Onegu wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 21 2015 12:05 LightningStrike wrote:
ruXxar since you are here I think you should take a look at Onegu I want a outsider perspective from someone who never played with him before and tell me your thoughts on him please.



This is so bad. Like obv people who never played with me will see me as anti town and you know it. So why ask someone who never played with me their thoughts?


You don't WANT people to read you because you know you're going to look like scum?
What kind of mentality is that?
It's like you're shying away from contact with the outside world, but as soon as someone even hints at you being scum you come out claws first and start an OMGUS train against them.
You are even aware, as you make abundantly clear in the above post, that your play looks like scum.
So tell me this:
If you are town, playing in a game trying to win. Why the hell would you continue to play in a way that makes people perceive you as scum?!

1: It gives you no credit. Your opinion isn't going to be worth anything if people don't think you're town.
2: It makes it easy for scum to mislynch you.
3: You make it incredibly hard for town when you get down to a LYLO situation and you've provided basically 0 content that supports you as town.

Do you know how incredibly stupid way of playing that is?

If you are town, and you are playing like this in all your town games, I don't even want to play with you anymore, because honestly you're making the game shit for everyone else trying to invest time into it and actively trying to the best of their ability to win.

YOU DONT WIN AS TOWN BY BEING AFK ALL GAME AND NOT CONTRIBUTING.


And now you show up saying "I'm here" and throw out 1 liners as if that's somehow supposed to be self evident.
Like we have some sort of telepathic connection into your brain that will automatically explain the stances you take?!

How about you spend more than 2 minutes to read an accusation against you and actually flesh out your posts with some arguments and logical reasoning.

Bring your own sentiment to the thread, bring new thoughts, ideas, new suspects.
You don't show any sign of actually thinking about the game outside of the 2 minutes you spend looking for posts made against you and your OMGUS attack against people.

You say you're going to play?
How about you give some REASONING behind what you say instead of throwing out crap like this:

Stop being bad. Lynch RuXxar or Shockky today.

..No explanation
I have dropped my LS read.

..No explanation

On July 01 2015 03:57 Onegu wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 01 2015 03:43 ShoCkeyy wrote:
On July 01 2015 03:13 Onegu wrote:
On July 01 2015 03:12 ShoCkeyy wrote:
On July 01 2015 03:02 Onegu wrote:
On July 01 2015 02:50 Holyflare wrote:
On July 01 2015 02:49 Fidei86 wrote:
Onegu played exactly the same way as this in HG and he was town then too.


no he plays like that every game and you don't really know what makes the difference between town onegu or mafia onegu



Stop being bad. Lynch RuXxar or Shockky today. I am playing now so suck it. Also why does scum onegu not push you today?

Like HF can never read me. Since we were in newbies together.

@RuXxar Why do I need to defend myself at this point we are still 4 hours from lynch and I am not dieing. And like your only reason for scum reading me is I am not doing anything... Well guess what I am now so your arguement is void.

Damdred is being dumb/mafia because he knows for a fact I am willing to vote with my tunneled scum read as town.

Also ruXxar the point about you making people look worse, you did it with VA and me right as you came in the game.

Shockky because onegu rule. And also knowing my meta and thinking this is my scum play.



Lol onegu rule and b/s I don't know your meta, but you've obviously have done nothing this game. Even when we were mafia together in my first return game, you did more, you did more in my town game. In this game, you've pretty much have done nothing. There's a huge difference in how you've been playing and you should see the same with me, but you just call me mafia because you're mafia and I've outed you. I've given MANY reasons how you can be mafia and all you can say is "onegu rule".



Can you honestly say this game is like the game we were scum together in or the game we were town together in?


You played way better when we were town together, I also want you to answer the same question.
Can you honestly say this game is like the game we were scum together in or the game we were town together in?


Scum

...No explanation.

No I thought Mig was tracker with check on scum GB

...No further explanation.


You know how badly I want to lynch you right now?
You're lucky.
You should've never made it this far.
But I'm done with you unless you actually show up and play.
It looks like you might make it one more day, I hope you enjoy it.
"alright guys im claiming my role im actually politician I can manipulate a persons vote during the day phase, used it on clarity last phase and forced him to vote for HF. full role name donald trump, definitely town sided". - EBH
ruXxar
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
Norway5669 Posts
July 02 2015 21:06 GMT
#5060
I'll talk to you after my dinner HF brb.
"alright guys im claiming my role im actually politician I can manipulate a persons vote during the day phase, used it on clarity last phase and forced him to vote for HF. full role name donald trump, definitely town sided". - EBH
ruXxar
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
Norway5669 Posts
July 02 2015 21:30 GMT
#5061
So tell me HF.
Has your opinion of Onegu changed?
What do you think of the current situation?

You had suspicions of me and damdred.
Are those suspicions still standing strong, if not, what has changed?
"alright guys im claiming my role im actually politician I can manipulate a persons vote during the day phase, used it on clarity last phase and forced him to vote for HF. full role name donald trump, definitely town sided". - EBH
Prev 1 9 10 11 12 13 Next All
Please log in or register to reply.
Live Events Refresh
PiGosaur Monday
00:00
#42
davetesta52
Liquipedia
[ Submit Event ]
Live Streams
Refresh
StarCraft 2
WinterStarcraft456
Nina 221
RuFF_SC2 146
SpeCial 119
ProTech59
StarCraft: Brood War
Sea 4216
Leta 453
Noble 130
Sexy 60
Bale 25
Icarus 12
Aegong 11
Dota 2
NeuroSwarm132
Counter-Strike
Fnx 1930
Stewie2K902
Coldzera 275
Super Smash Bros
hungrybox563
Other Games
summit1g12004
shahzam1308
Maynarde161
NotJumperer1
Organizations
Other Games
gamesdonequick1636
StarCraft 2
Blizzard YouTube
StarCraft: Brood War
BSLTrovo
sctven
[ Show 18 non-featured ]
StarCraft 2
• Hupsaiya 61
• practicex 36
• Kozan
• LaughNgamezSOOP
• sooper7s
• AfreecaTV YouTube
• intothetv
• Migwel
• IndyKCrew
StarCraft: Brood War
• HerbMon 6
• iopq 1
• STPLYoutube
• ZZZeroYoutube
• BSLYoutube
Dota 2
• masondota2516
League of Legends
• Rush1802
• Stunt320
Other Games
• Scarra1409
Upcoming Events
OSC
8h 8m
uThermal 2v2 Circuit
11h 38m
The PondCast
1d 5h
Online Event
1d 11h
Korean StarCraft League
2 days
CranKy Ducklings
3 days
BSL20 Non-Korean Champi…
3 days
Mihu vs QiaoGege
Zhanhun vs Dewalt
Fengzi vs TBD
Online Event
3 days
Sparkling Tuna Cup
4 days
BSL20 Non-Korean Champi…
4 days
Bonyth vs TBD
[ Show More ]
OSC
5 days
Liquipedia Results

Completed

BSL 20 Non-Korean Championship
FEL Cracow 2025
Underdog Cup #2

Ongoing

Copa Latinoamericana 4
Jiahua Invitational
BSL 20 Team Wars
CC Div. A S7
IEM Cologne 2025
FISSURE Playground #1
BLAST.tv Austin Major 2025
ESL Impact League Season 7
IEM Dallas 2025
PGL Astana 2025

Upcoming

BSL 21 Qualifiers
ASL Season 20: Qualifier #1
ASL Season 20: Qualifier #2
ASL Season 20
CSLPRO Chat StarLAN 3
BSL Season 21
RSL Revival: Season 2
Maestros of the Game
SEL Season 2 Championship
WardiTV Summer 2025
uThermal 2v2 Main Event
HCC Europe
Yuqilin POB S2
ESL Pro League S22
StarSeries Fall 2025
FISSURE Playground #2
BLAST Open Fall 2025
BLAST Open Fall Qual
Esports World Cup 2025
BLAST Bounty Fall 2025
BLAST Bounty Fall Qual
TLPD

1. ByuN
2. TY
3. Dark
4. Solar
5. Stats
6. Nerchio
7. sOs
8. soO
9. INnoVation
10. Elazer
1. Rain
2. Flash
3. EffOrt
4. Last
5. Bisu
6. Soulkey
7. Mini
8. Sharp
Sidebar Settings...

Advertising | Privacy Policy | Terms Of Use | Contact Us

Original banner artwork: Jim Warren
The contents of this webpage are copyright © 2025 TLnet. All Rights Reserved.