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On June 19 2015 04:24 LightningStrike wrote:Show nested quote +On June 19 2015 04:17 GlowingBear wrote:
Your vote also makes no sense, LS. You jumped on me too easily. Look I liked Bugs case on you and I was already townreading him and based on how last game I putting all my eggs in that basket but if you are town make a legacy post before you get lynched.
I'm not getting lynched because I won't let town derp this bad
I won't make shitty legacy post, no one reads that shit
And if you're town I'm fucking mad at you for bring this bad
Bugs has NOTHING against me. Your reasons to sheep are the worst
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On June 19 2015 04:30 wherebugsgo wrote:Show nested quote +On June 19 2015 04:28 GlowingBear wrote:On June 19 2015 04:24 LightningStrike wrote:On June 19 2015 04:17 GlowingBear wrote:
Your vote also makes no sense, LS. You jumped on me too easily. Look I liked Bugs case on you and I was already townreading him and based on how last game I putting all my eggs in that basket but if you are town make a legacy post before you get lynched. Bugs has NOTHING against me. Your reasons to sheep are the worst ah yes, the empty attempt to discredit. You should learn to fake a meta read next time
Ah! The easy unnatural tunnel. Commenting every single post of his target to show "HEY GUYS I AM CATCHING SCUM LOLOLOLOLOL"
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Ok, let's try it in another way.
KelsierSC, VayneAuthority, LightningStrike, Holyflare:
Tell me exactly WHY are you voting me.
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On June 19 2015 04:35 LightningStrike wrote:Show nested quote +On June 19 2015 04:34 GlowingBear wrote:
Ok, let's try it in another way.
KelsierSC, VayneAuthority, LightningStrike, Holyflare:
Tell me exactly WHY are you voting me. Do I really to explain more? I like Bugs case on you and you do have some similar stuff from your past games as scum simple as that.
Yes, I want you to explain more
Go deeper than that.
What do you like on bugs case? What similar stuff from past scum games?
It's easy to base your vote by saying what you're saying.
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On June 19 2015 04:37 KelsierSC wrote:Show nested quote +On June 19 2015 04:34 GlowingBear wrote:
Ok, let's try it in another way.
KelsierSC, VayneAuthority, LightningStrike, Holyflare:
Tell me exactly WHY are you voting me. I started reading WBS as town with his post about bf. He then raised some interesting points about you and summarised points of your play accurately You then made a very weak case on breshke which was actually bad enough for you to be mafia and then you also attempted to discredit and misrepresent WBG afterwards. Add on the posts linked by VA and Shockey from previous games when you all caps
Reading someone as town doesn't make his reads correct
What about my play looks like scum?
I totally believe in that case and I stand to those points. I've bounced your counter-arguments with counter-counter-arguments. It stopped there.
I didn't attempt to discredit and I still believe in what I wrote. He didn't try to lynch lurkers, but that wasn't the point I raised. The point I raised was that he was WORRIED about people who never dropped information in thread, and he isn't now.
The posts VA and Shockey linked are from a single game where I caps locked almost a whole page of thread. This isn't happening here. Also, you can't base that with only a scum game. If it also happens in my town games, then these points are NAI.
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On June 19 2015 04:40 LightningStrike wrote:Show nested quote +On June 19 2015 04:37 GlowingBear wrote:On June 19 2015 04:35 LightningStrike wrote:On June 19 2015 04:34 GlowingBear wrote:
Ok, let's try it in another way.
KelsierSC, VayneAuthority, LightningStrike, Holyflare:
Tell me exactly WHY are you voting me. Do I really to explain more? I like Bugs case on you and you do have some similar stuff from your past games as scum simple as that. Yes, I want you to explain more Go deeper than that. What do you like on bugs case? What similar stuff from past scum games? It's easy to base your vote by saying what you're saying. Your all cap stuff is very similar to the all cap stuff you had when I was scum with you when you tried to divert the lynch away from me and away from you in GoT too plus some of your stuff and your reaction test seemed weird too.
Not enough. This is too superficial.
It's completely different from the all caps from GoT. I was a little lady. I'm not a little lady here.
I've got all caps in all my town games, it's NAI.
What stuff especifically is weird and why weird=mafia?
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Holyflare, you talk to me.
You're voting me out of nothing.
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Kelsier, you're the strongest townread I have on my wagon.
Please consider me coming from town perspective and see if it couldn't happen.
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I want you guys calling me scum to explain this:
1) Why would I bother building a case on Breshke if boxerfred is town? I could simply just agree with Holyflare and lynch him and fuck off.
2) Why would I call out tunnelus maximus bugs as mafia, knowing he would go against me? Why drawing so much attention?
3) Why would I, as mafia, intentionally flip my reads and call people mafia instead of keeping cool blending in with possible town?
4) Why would I bother creating a lynch list and try to organise town?
5) Why would, as mafia, call LS out but NOT voting him, unless we are mafia together? But as you can see, we can't be mafia together because he is willing to lynch me out of nothing.
I want you all to answer these.
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On June 19 2015 04:49 Holyflare wrote:Show nested quote +On June 19 2015 04:34 GlowingBear wrote:
Ok, let's try it in another way.
KelsierSC, VayneAuthority, LightningStrike, Holyflare:
Tell me exactly WHY are you voting me. are you fucking mad i've outlined it like 4 times now
Outline a 5th. Your reasons before sounded like shit.
You are very well aware of my scum play right now and I'm DEFINETLY not playing like my scum game. It impresses me that you are thinking that I could be mafia.
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On June 19 2015 04:50 ritoky wrote:Show nested quote +On June 19 2015 04:47 KelsierSC wrote:On June 19 2015 04:43 ritoky wrote:On June 19 2015 04:41 KelsierSC wrote:On June 19 2015 04:39 ritoky wrote:
choppa 4 wants to vote on migs or LS.
one of my town reads try to talk me into doing something else if you want. can you be tempted by a cheeky GB vote? he isn't overwhelmingly town to me, so if you had solid reasoning, lay it on me. not in huge post form, condensed form. i did that in response to him On June 19 2015 04:37 KelsierSC wrote:On June 19 2015 04:34 GlowingBear wrote:
Ok, let's try it in another way.
KelsierSC, VayneAuthority, LightningStrike, Holyflare:
Tell me exactly WHY are you voting me. I started reading WBS as town with his post about bf. He then raised some interesting points about you and summarised points of your play accurately You then made a very weak case on breshke which was actually bad enough for you to be mafia and then you also attempted to discredit and misrepresent WBG afterwards. Add on the posts linked by VA and Shockey from previous games when you all caps for the initial case you have to read bugs That's not really a compelling case. Maybe the compelling part is in the summarizing of play accurately? GB makes weak ass cases all the time as both alignments. He calls way more people mafia than could actually be mafia, and he types in caps as both alignments. If anything is mafia indicative about him it is that he went into OMGUS people voting on me = mafia mode at some point; and I didn't feel he was incredibly sold on the BF lynch prior to the change in gears. Although maybe my memory is foggy on that.
No I'm not incredibly sold. I have my doubts.
But out of the lynch list and out of my townreads choices, he is my best bet. That's why I'm voting him.
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On June 19 2015 04:50 GlowingBear wrote:
I want you guys calling me scum to explain this:
1) Why would I bother building a case on Breshke if boxerfred is town? I could simply just agree with Holyflare and lynch him and fuck off.
2) Why would I call out tunnelus maximus bugs as mafia, knowing he would go against me? Why drawing so much attention?
3) Why would I, as mafia, intentionally flip my reads and call people mafia instead of keeping cool blending in with possible town?
4) Why would I bother creating a lynch list and try to organise town?
5) Why would, as mafia, call LS out but NOT voting him, unless we are mafia together? But as you can see, we can't be mafia together because he is willing to lynch me out of nothing.
I want you all to answer these.
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On June 19 2015 04:54 KelsierSC wrote:Show nested quote +On June 19 2015 04:50 ritoky wrote:On June 19 2015 04:47 KelsierSC wrote:On June 19 2015 04:43 ritoky wrote:On June 19 2015 04:41 KelsierSC wrote:On June 19 2015 04:39 ritoky wrote:
choppa 4 wants to vote on migs or LS.
one of my town reads try to talk me into doing something else if you want. can you be tempted by a cheeky GB vote? he isn't overwhelmingly town to me, so if you had solid reasoning, lay it on me. not in huge post form, condensed form. i did that in response to him On June 19 2015 04:37 KelsierSC wrote:On June 19 2015 04:34 GlowingBear wrote:
Ok, let's try it in another way.
KelsierSC, VayneAuthority, LightningStrike, Holyflare:
Tell me exactly WHY are you voting me. I started reading WBS as town with his post about bf. He then raised some interesting points about you and summarised points of your play accurately You then made a very weak case on breshke which was actually bad enough for you to be mafia and then you also attempted to discredit and misrepresent WBG afterwards. Add on the posts linked by VA and Shockey from previous games when you all caps for the initial case you have to read bugs That's not really a compelling case. Maybe the compelling part is in the summarizing of play accurately? GB makes weak ass cases all the time as both alignments. He calls way more people mafia than could actually be mafia, and he types in caps as both alignments. If anything is mafia indicative about him it is that he went into OMGUS people voting on me = mafia mode at some point; and I didn't feel he was incredibly sold on the BF lynch prior to the change in gears. Although maybe my memory is foggy on that. yeh I suppose that is a fair point, I remember imperial when he made a lot of dumb cases then... I don't know , I liked bugs case a lot and i felt he was really misrepresenting him with that lurker bullshit. LS lynch might still be real if GB is actually town
I'm fighting this temptation of lynching LS since he has a big filter, but oh boy, that vote on me was bad.
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On June 19 2015 04:56 Holyflare wrote:Show nested quote +On June 19 2015 04:50 GlowingBear wrote:
I want you guys calling me scum to explain this:
1) Why would I bother building a case on Breshke if boxerfred is town? I could simply just agree with Holyflare and lynch him and fuck off.
2) Why would I call out tunnelus maximus bugs as mafia, knowing he would go against me? Why drawing so much attention?
3) Why would I, as mafia, intentionally flip my reads and call people mafia instead of keeping cool blending in with possible town?
4) Why would I bother creating a lynch list and try to organise town?
5) Why would, as mafia, call LS out but NOT voting him, unless we are mafia together? But as you can see, we can't be mafia together because he is willing to lynch me out of nothing.
I want you all to answer these. 1) You have done absolutely no cases the entire thread and it's been 48 hours and you basically had no scum reads, I and several others had called you out for this. You were forced to make a case and it was bad as a result. 2) You have a MAJOR HABIT OF DOING THIS. Do not sit there and ask me why when in Game of Thrones YOU DID THE EXACT SAME THING TO ME WHEN YOU WERE MAFIA ROFL. 3) to appear "carefree" since someone has mentioned multiple times that you don't stick to people as mafia or whatever, the flaw is that you had little reasoning and absolutely no follow up and little care about what happened 4) lynching lurkers is the easiest cop out and YOU DIDN'T GIVE A SHIT ABOUT ANY OF THE CASES TO LYNCH MAFIA..............!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! 5) because you suck and know he does it as town all the fucking time and you'd look terrible if he flipped named vt
1) I wasn't FORCED, I did becauase I wanted to. He looks mafia to me. I could simply NOT make a case and survive if I was mafia.
2) I don't usually go after the big names when I'm mafia, this is not true.
3) So you think I would be THIS careless as scum? I've posted a full thought process in my reads in Game of Thrones Mafia. You know I'm capable of doing it, and incredibly, I do it better as scum.
4) You know I always advocate that as town. As mafia, of course I could use the plynch as a cop out, but I would NOT open the possibilities to town to CHOOSE who not to lynch. I would take the other way: influence their reads instead letting them influence mine. UNLESS you think ALL mafia are active, letting town choose who to lynch is almost suicidal.
5) This is a lazy answer and you're lazy to think this through. Read my question again and think again.
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On June 19 2015 04:59 Holyflare wrote:Show nested quote +On June 19 2015 04:07 Holyflare wrote:On June 19 2015 03:52 wherebugsgo wrote:On June 19 2015 03:49 Holyflare wrote:On June 19 2015 03:09 wherebugsgo wrote:
actually rsoultin, Mig, Breshke and HF I want to read your opinions on GB too. Maybe at least one of you will respond so I have something to work with. We have like 5 hours and I don't want to lynch either BF or LS today Quite clearly stated i scum read him and the reasons why. Will be back in about an hour to talk about stuff. +gb where did i ever say the mafia team was all lurkers other than a sarcastic jab at you a while ago? care to jog my memory? I recall you posting something pointing out the consolidation thing but you can pretend I'm a goldfish for the purposes of this exercise. I just want to know that you have real opinions I can trust. But of course if you don't wanna play we can have it your way  Well it's on my last page of filter? Pretty much pushed gb all last night. Summary is: Hypocritical outlook on the game between you and himself Sheeps me while expressing disdain for the sheep (game of thrones meta same) Reads + questions that don't get followed up, aka va stuff etc (scum read on me completely vanished too) Started to afk and not do shit Got called out by me and still didn't do shit apart from asking me useless questions Said boxerfed read was shit, stayed on wagon anyway because of his read on boxerfreds first post???? Randomly nitpicked ls for no reason and then gave him a town pass for stuff that ls had already done before the nitpicking Says game is bad because no consolidation but just flat out refuses to even read cases on scummy people did no scum hunting while complaining about no consolidation Lurker cop out reasoning Misrepresents you and breshke hardcore Fake rage (game of thrones meta same) Probably shit tonne more that i forgot but this is top of my head this is a good reason to vote for mafia gb
1st point: hypocritical is an arbitrary interpretation.
2nd point: just because I did that as scum doesn't mean I wouldn't do it as town.
3rd point: reads and questions that didn't follow up were part of reaction testing and information gathering, which I think is the best thing to do day1
4th point: I don't think they were useless - again, arbitrary interpretation
5th point: Never said your read was shit, I said I could see him coming from a town perspective from the things you wrote and that I scumread him for another interpretation that considered MORE than his first post.
6th point: got tunneled because he said some stupid shit and got outside the tunnel thanks to rsoultin. Again, why would I do this unless we are scum together?
7th point: I am giving reads on EVERYONE. If they aren't thourough, that's another matter. I refused to TALK about active people because we could deal with them on day2, but since EVERYONE completely IGNORED this plead, I started calling out things. I attempt to consolidate by building a lynch list.
8th point: Lurker policy lynch is something I always do day1 as town, stop being stupid
9th point: Fake rage was 1 post and I always do that as town, you can't compare ONE SINGLE CAPS LOCK to what happened in Game of Thrones. It is completely different.
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On June 19 2015 05:06 ritoky wrote:
okay from HF's thing i remember the vanishing onegu read and the lack of follow-up on VA stuff which was kinda scummy.
any1 gonna try to convince me on BF, or is that just a wagon full of AFKs?
I've reasoned my flip on onegu.
VA thing was a reaction testing. I did that on the beginning of the game when I asked breshke to vote Onegu.
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On June 19 2015 05:10 KelsierSC wrote:
##unvote
##vote Glowingbear
Answer my points.
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On June 19 2015 05:10 KelsierSC wrote:Show nested quote +On June 19 2015 05:10 GlowingBear wrote:On June 19 2015 05:10 KelsierSC wrote:
##unvote
##vote Glowingbear Answer my points. I think hf and wbg did a good job of that already
I'm not reading WBG because I think he is mafia or stupid
I've answered those shitty answers from Holyflare
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Lol man, look how much effort I'm putting to fight this lynch
This is very disappointing
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Everybody who is voting me, in case I realy get lynched, I want you all to say "I promise I will think twice before lyching one of the biggest filters day1"
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