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Oats doesn't seem to have a very heavy commitment in any of his reads.
All I see is him throwing out reads willy nilly without backing them up.
Never committing to any strong accusations.
His strongest accusation so far has been against geript, and then he was indifferent when geript flipped.
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After the whole debacle between me, kickstart and moosy on start of day 2 where kickstart and moosy accused me of bussing, which was an event that i think was fairly noticeable.
On June 15 2015 07:47 Kickstart wrote:Show nested quote +On June 15 2015 07:45 ruXxar wrote:On June 15 2015 07:41 MoosyDoosy wrote:On June 15 2015 07:35 Kickstart wrote:
Maybe me being suspicious of all of them early day 1 will buy me some town cred???? I need some after being afk so long. Don't worry. It looks like Rels -> Sulfurus right now. If both are right, I'm pretty sure we'll have to vote to kill ruXxar and we always have cop to check if necessary. I'm sorry, why would you vote me out when I agree they are scum? Bussing is a known thing friend. That is why you are last in the line.
Oats makes these two posts against kickstarter later:
On June 17 2015 09:20 Oatsmaster wrote:Show nested quote +On June 17 2015 08:47 Kickstart wrote:
Here comes oats to do nothing but create chaos. Why don't you do something towny and hunt scum? Or will you not because you are scum and just took a huge blow in losing sulf? Like why would you come in after this really good lynch for town and first thing you say is "I dont think we should town read anyone based on this lynch", like LOL are you even serious. Now you look to be trying to create some world where I and sulfurus were scum buddies which is just too ridiculous to warrant me arguing against.
Oats like nothing you have done seems to be from a town point of view and then you come in with this bullshit after a good lynch for us. Like you are the only person in the world who would argue that no one looks townie from that flip.
Oats is such scum here. But also, its night phase you don't vote yet you nerds. Guess you have never heard of bussing then. Kickstart, if you are mafia, does it change all these town reads people are giving out? Hypothetically.
On June 17 2015 09:43 Oatsmaster wrote:Show nested quote +On June 17 2015 09:35 Kickstart wrote:
Also if you look at the votes, not counting wave who actually took his vote off of sulfurus and onto me for a short time, I am the first vote onto sulfurus. So the idea that I bussed him for cred makes even less sense because I was the first one on him this day cycle and indeed the first one to say I was suspicious of him at the start of the game. Yeah you don't know the concept of bussing.
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I also believe that sulfur jumped on scotts really nice mafia post about oats to try to gain some towncred for oats when sulfur flipped.
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On June 18 2015 03:14 MoosyDoosy wrote:
Despite the fact that I've been reading ruXxar as a Mafia like a madman, I'm still inclined to think he's a newbie for some reason. T.T Maybe it's the fact that he keeps on making mistakes like no Mafia should consistently do, but the same thing happened with Sulfurus. Thoughts from others?
It really is kind of weird, but I think I want him for the lynch today after reading the interactions between Sulf and him that I posted - among the bluehunting, hard defends, etc. Ruxx is #1 right now.
Oats had a couple better posts, but I'm still suspicious. I know making reads between you and ruxxar are pretty bad at the moment, but with Sulf do count; he posted TWICE "I'm not dying tonight" which I didn't like either. #2
Bats keeps trying to go after me without giving reasons multiple times would put him #3.
Trfel/Wave/Moosy are all town, and I'd put them in that order. I didn't like Wave's "Ugh this game" after lynching scum but that is a super minor point - every thing else has had sense, thought, and direction.
Rels would be behind them but if he gets slacking Day 3 (Since his Day 2 took a lot of effort) looks good.
KS looks a lot better late day 2 after he came back from almost giving up and shooting
Damdred seems a little defensive but he's still an inch above null.
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On June 18 2015 04:01 ruXxar wrote:
I also believe that sulfur jumped on scotts really nice mafia post about oats to try to gain some towncred for oats when sulfur flipped.
It really wasn't that great, it was more of a joke post since I posted like two quotes of Oats and Sulf called that a case. I didn't take it too seriously or I else I would've put "Oats is Mafia" NOT "Oats may be mafia" - you know what I mean?
You think it was really nice? Tell me more...
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On June 18 2015 04:37 scott31337 wrote:Show nested quote +On June 18 2015 04:01 ruXxar wrote:
I also believe that sulfur jumped on scotts really nice mafia post about oats to try to gain some towncred for oats when sulfur flipped. It really wasn't that great, it was more of a joke post since I posted like two quotes of Oats and Sulf called that a case. I didn't take it too seriously or I else I would've put "Oats is Mafia" NOT "Oats may be mafia" - you know what I mean? You think it was really nice? Tell me more...
I don't know, I didn't read it.
It was formatted nicely though.
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I'm actually wrong on that point. Sulfurs vote came earlier than scotts post.
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I still think the point applies though.
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You know what, forget it. Kinda seems like a stretch.
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Oats
Kickstart
Rels
Damdred
Ruxxar
Scott
Trfel
Moosy
batsnacks
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On June 18 2015 05:33 WaveofShadow wrote:
Oats
Kickstart
Rels
Damdred
Ruxxar
Scott
Trfel
Moosy
batsnacks
Wut?
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On June 17 2015 22:09 WaveofShadow wrote:And for the record I'm going to have to have a second look at ol' batsy. Show nested quote +On June 17 2015 17:46 Rels wrote:I also had a thought about batsnacks while sleeping. Two days in a row, he was pretty suspicious of Sulfu, but tried to deflect the lynch from him at EOD. The first day he succeded with a geript case: + Show Spoiler +On June 14 2015 05:38 batsnacks wrote:Show nested quote +On June 14 2015 05:33 MoosyDoosy wrote:On June 14 2015 05:32 batsnacks wrote:
Bat Traps™ mafia traps. The highest quality traps for your scum hunting needs. We'll see how right we are after Sulfurus, Rels, and getrip. You don't understand. geript just claimed mafia. Here is geript saying he will sheep Trfel's amazing case on Rels: + Show Spoiler +On June 14 2015 04:54 geript wrote:
Actually, I think I'm going to sheep too. Here is sulfurus's bold post defending Rels: + Show Spoiler +On June 14 2015 05:00 Sulfurus wrote:I didn't want to say anything about trfel before because his vote on Bats was protecting me but he is just straight up wrong on Rels. He makes a post here where he says rels made a bad town read on ruXxar even though (IMO) ruXx is one of the towniest players in the game. He also keeps saying that Rels is tunneled on Plant's only post and he basically dismisses the rest of his filter when in fact it's really good and shows a town who is focused on trying to solve the game. Here is me saying sulfurus's post is bold, I ask why mafia would post such a thing: + Show Spoiler +On June 14 2015 05:04 batsnacks wrote:Show nested quote +On June 14 2015 05:00 Sulfurus wrote:I didn't want to say anything about trfel before because his vote on Bats was protecting me but he is just straight up wrong on Rels. He makes a post here where he says rels made a bad town read on ruXxar even though (IMO) ruXx is one of the towniest players in the game. He also keeps saying that Rels is tunneled on Plant's only post and he basically dismisses the rest of his filter when in fact it's really good and shows a town who is focused on trying to solve the game. This is bold. Why does mafia post this? Here geript explains that sometimes mafia like to defend town poorly. geript knows that Rels is town, yet he would sheep Trfel's case on Rels: + Show Spoiler +On June 14 2015 05:08 geript wrote:Show nested quote +On June 14 2015 05:04 batsnacks wrote:On June 14 2015 05:00 Sulfurus wrote:I didn't want to say anything about trfel before because his vote on Bats was protecting me but he is just straight up wrong on Rels. He makes a post here where he says rels made a bad town read on ruXxar even though (IMO) ruXx is one of the towniest players in the game. He also keeps saying that Rels is tunneled on Plant's only post and he basically dismisses the rest of his filter when in fact it's really good and shows a town who is focused on trying to solve the game. This is bold. Why does mafia post this? It's not uncommon for mafia to defend town badly. Especially newer mafia. The second day he proposed to switch to scott. Of course he said it jokingly, so we can't know if it's a joke or a disguised attempt. But the fact is that he repeated it several times in the last hour of the day: On June 17 2015 06:19 batsnacks wrote:On June 17 2015 06:18 MoosyDoosy wrote:On June 17 2015 06:17 batsnacks wrote:
Dude wtf ruxxar giving me cold feet with his feels. What do you mean by this? It means I'm about to vote sulfur and hate myself for it. Unless anyone but me wants to lynch scott which doesn't seem to be the case. On June 17 2015 06:27 batsnacks wrote:
I'm like 75% sure scott is mafia and that's a really high number. On June 17 2015 06:47 batsnacks wrote:
Shenanies onto scott? On June 17 2015 06:49 batsnacks wrote:
I really, really want to vote scott. On June 17 2015 07:17 batsnacks wrote:
Glad we didn't lynch scott, he's probably just a lowly goon. I admit the last one made me laugh. (= That's not a case, just an observation for future days. Some of this actually started to get me thinking, even though it would require some of the ballsiest scumplay I've ever seen to blatantly attempt to shenanigan a lynch off a scummate at EOD. When combined with D1 stuff it makes things very unlikely but then again Show nested quote +On June 15 2015 11:07 Oatsmaster wrote:
Also i have been in a game where day 1 was between 2 scum.
So meh, not a point I want to believe it's as easy as ruxxar/rels (as the likely final newbies) but blehhhh. ACTUALLY Oats making tons of sense in his last few posts I wonder if that quote was TMI Ugh this game
On June 18 2015 05:33 WaveofShadow wrote:
Oats
Kickstart
Rels
Damdred
Ruxxar
Scott
Trfel
Moosy
batsnacks
Now that you went on the offensive, I think you should say your reasons before deadline, in case you're killed.
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On June 18 2015 05:33 WaveofShadow wrote:
Oats
Kickstart
Rels
Damdred
Ruxxar
Scott
Trfel
Moosy
batsnacks
Are you trying to bait me with that list?
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On June 18 2015 05:40 Rels wrote:Show nested quote +On June 17 2015 22:09 WaveofShadow wrote:And for the record I'm going to have to have a second look at ol' batsy. On June 17 2015 17:46 Rels wrote:I also had a thought about batsnacks while sleeping. Two days in a row, he was pretty suspicious of Sulfu, but tried to deflect the lynch from him at EOD. The first day he succeded with a geript case: + Show Spoiler +On June 14 2015 05:38 batsnacks wrote:Show nested quote +On June 14 2015 05:33 MoosyDoosy wrote:On June 14 2015 05:32 batsnacks wrote:
Bat Traps™ mafia traps. The highest quality traps for your scum hunting needs. We'll see how right we are after Sulfurus, Rels, and getrip. You don't understand. geript just claimed mafia. Here is geript saying he will sheep Trfel's amazing case on Rels: + Show Spoiler +On June 14 2015 04:54 geript wrote:
Actually, I think I'm going to sheep too. Here is sulfurus's bold post defending Rels: + Show Spoiler +On June 14 2015 05:00 Sulfurus wrote:I didn't want to say anything about trfel before because his vote on Bats was protecting me but he is just straight up wrong on Rels. He makes a post here where he says rels made a bad town read on ruXxar even though (IMO) ruXx is one of the towniest players in the game. He also keeps saying that Rels is tunneled on Plant's only post and he basically dismisses the rest of his filter when in fact it's really good and shows a town who is focused on trying to solve the game. Here is me saying sulfurus's post is bold, I ask why mafia would post such a thing: + Show Spoiler +On June 14 2015 05:04 batsnacks wrote:Show nested quote +On June 14 2015 05:00 Sulfurus wrote:I didn't want to say anything about trfel before because his vote on Bats was protecting me but he is just straight up wrong on Rels. He makes a post here where he says rels made a bad town read on ruXxar even though (IMO) ruXx is one of the towniest players in the game. He also keeps saying that Rels is tunneled on Plant's only post and he basically dismisses the rest of his filter when in fact it's really good and shows a town who is focused on trying to solve the game. This is bold. Why does mafia post this? Here geript explains that sometimes mafia like to defend town poorly. geript knows that Rels is town, yet he would sheep Trfel's case on Rels: + Show Spoiler +On June 14 2015 05:08 geript wrote:Show nested quote +On June 14 2015 05:04 batsnacks wrote:On June 14 2015 05:00 Sulfurus wrote:I didn't want to say anything about trfel before because his vote on Bats was protecting me but he is just straight up wrong on Rels. He makes a post here where he says rels made a bad town read on ruXxar even though (IMO) ruXx is one of the towniest players in the game. He also keeps saying that Rels is tunneled on Plant's only post and he basically dismisses the rest of his filter when in fact it's really good and shows a town who is focused on trying to solve the game. This is bold. Why does mafia post this? It's not uncommon for mafia to defend town badly. Especially newer mafia. The second day he proposed to switch to scott. Of course he said it jokingly, so we can't know if it's a joke or a disguised attempt. But the fact is that he repeated it several times in the last hour of the day: On June 17 2015 06:19 batsnacks wrote:On June 17 2015 06:18 MoosyDoosy wrote:On June 17 2015 06:17 batsnacks wrote:
Dude wtf ruxxar giving me cold feet with his feels. What do you mean by this? It means I'm about to vote sulfur and hate myself for it. Unless anyone but me wants to lynch scott which doesn't seem to be the case. On June 17 2015 06:27 batsnacks wrote:
I'm like 75% sure scott is mafia and that's a really high number. On June 17 2015 06:47 batsnacks wrote:
Shenanies onto scott? On June 17 2015 06:49 batsnacks wrote:
I really, really want to vote scott. On June 17 2015 07:17 batsnacks wrote:
Glad we didn't lynch scott, he's probably just a lowly goon. I admit the last one made me laugh. (= That's not a case, just an observation for future days. Some of this actually started to get me thinking, even though it would require some of the ballsiest scumplay I've ever seen to blatantly attempt to shenanigan a lynch off a scummate at EOD. When combined with D1 stuff it makes things very unlikely but then again On June 15 2015 11:07 Oatsmaster wrote:
Also i have been in a game where day 1 was between 2 scum.
So meh, not a point I want to believe it's as easy as ruxxar/rels (as the likely final newbies) but blehhhh. ACTUALLY Oats making tons of sense in his last few posts I wonder if that quote was TMI Ugh this game Show nested quote +On June 18 2015 05:33 WaveofShadow wrote:
Oats
Kickstart
Rels
Damdred
Ruxxar
Scott
Trfel
Moosy
batsnacks Now that you went on the offensive, I think you should say your reasons before deadline, in case you're killed.
Not much time
Moosy has completely lost the newbie feels I got from him at the start of the game and has been playing extremely shrewdly. I'm not 100% on him but he needs ot be looked into in detail tomrorow. There's a couple things he said around end of day as well that look super bad.
Bats because I actually think D1 was a scum on scum wagon like Oats said after looking into it. The pieces fit
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On June 18 2015 05:33 WaveofShadow wrote:
Oats
Kickstart
Rels
Damdred
Ruxxar
Scott
Trfel
Moosy
batsnacks
eh. Not a fan of this list, but I'm sure I'll be able to clear up any suspicions you have.
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If that list is correct It would be a relief to myself to confirm that I'm not insane.
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Can you reference the posts he said that makes him really scummy?
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Anyway, good night everyone (=
TODO list for tomorrow: vote analysis + ruxxar / Sulf association analysis.
Following WOS post, a thought poped in my head. Moosy, I think it was you that accused ruxxar for this day 1: the fact that ruxxar was voting batsnacks, then without explanation found batsnacks' case wonderful and sheeped / voted geript. If what WOS say is true, that may be an association between BS and ruxx.
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