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On June 16 2015 06:31 batsnacks wrote:Show nested quote +On June 16 2015 06:27 ruXxar wrote:On June 16 2015 06:24 WaveofShadow wrote:On June 16 2015 06:21 ruXxar wrote:On June 16 2015 06:14 batsnacks wrote:On June 16 2015 06:12 ruXxar wrote:On June 16 2015 06:10 batsnacks wrote:On June 16 2015 06:09 ruXxar wrote:
If for any reason sulfurus flips and he's red, you can lynch me next night 100%, I won't even be mad.
I'm that confident in my read. 1 post ago you just explained that sulfurus flipping red makes you town. Even though you were wrong wtf even is this? Please quote the post where I said this: ARE YOU SERIOUS??? On June 16 2015 06:05 ruXxar wrote:
Because if he's mafia and i'm mafia and I still try to protect him despite the fact that he has given up then I'm an idiot no?
Basically what wave said.
You misunderstood completely. That sentence says that if he's a mafia given up the game, and I'm also a mafia, then I'm idiot for defending him. Ergo only an idiot mafia would defend sulfurus if he's red. I'd like to think I'm better than that so I would've bussed sulfur a long time ago if I actually was his mafia buddy. As for why sulfur isn't mafia in an isolated scope, I've already made that argument before. You're right about the earlier stuff, and it isn't all that convincing, but I've already explained why your case for Sulf being town is pretty worthless. The more convincing argument is actually the TMI, and even though I have a hard time believing you're right, it still makes you look scummy either in which case the play would be to lynch you first. I'm going to hold off for now and let some other people comment on this because it's been beaten to death. Damdred and Scott I'm particularly interested in what you two have to say. Are you going to explain what TMI is in the context of mafia? I did not find any reference acronym in the mafiascum wiki. It means you have too much information about the alignments of other players i.e. there is no way you should be confident in sulfur's alignment if you are town because sulfur has not provided enough information to make that determination. You especially should not be confident enough to risk your place in the game for sulfur. A common mafia tell is giving out townreads for unsound reasons.
I found my reasons to be very sound.
I imagined myself in sulfurus position,
and not in a million years would I have made that same play that he has as mafia.
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On June 16 2015 06:33 ruXxar wrote:Show nested quote +On June 16 2015 06:31 batsnacks wrote:On June 16 2015 06:27 ruXxar wrote:On June 16 2015 06:24 WaveofShadow wrote:On June 16 2015 06:21 ruXxar wrote:On June 16 2015 06:14 batsnacks wrote:On June 16 2015 06:12 ruXxar wrote:On June 16 2015 06:10 batsnacks wrote:On June 16 2015 06:09 ruXxar wrote:
If for any reason sulfurus flips and he's red, you can lynch me next night 100%, I won't even be mad.
I'm that confident in my read. 1 post ago you just explained that sulfurus flipping red makes you town. Even though you were wrong wtf even is this? Please quote the post where I said this: ARE YOU SERIOUS??? On June 16 2015 06:05 ruXxar wrote:
Because if he's mafia and i'm mafia and I still try to protect him despite the fact that he has given up then I'm an idiot no?
Basically what wave said.
You misunderstood completely. That sentence says that if he's a mafia given up the game, and I'm also a mafia, then I'm idiot for defending him. Ergo only an idiot mafia would defend sulfurus if he's red. I'd like to think I'm better than that so I would've bussed sulfur a long time ago if I actually was his mafia buddy. As for why sulfur isn't mafia in an isolated scope, I've already made that argument before. You're right about the earlier stuff, and it isn't all that convincing, but I've already explained why your case for Sulf being town is pretty worthless. The more convincing argument is actually the TMI, and even though I have a hard time believing you're right, it still makes you look scummy either in which case the play would be to lynch you first. I'm going to hold off for now and let some other people comment on this because it's been beaten to death. Damdred and Scott I'm particularly interested in what you two have to say. Are you going to explain what TMI is in the context of mafia? I did not find any reference acronym in the mafiascum wiki. It means you have too much information about the alignments of other players i.e. there is no way you should be confident in sulfur's alignment if you are town because sulfur has not provided enough information to make that determination. You especially should not be confident enough to risk your place in the game for sulfur. A common mafia tell is giving out townreads for unsound reasons. I found my reasons to be very sound. I imagined myself in sulfurus position, and not in a million years would I have made that same play that he has as mafia.
Now that I think about it again, what made the play seems very bad from sulfur is the fact that we thought he was associated with Rels.
But imagine for a second that rels isn't mafia.
Now what the situation was earlier was that Sulfurus was leading in votes, and then Trfel makes a read on rels that actually steals votes away from bats who had equal votes as Sulfurus, but was not about to be lynched.
In the scenario that rels is town it actually makes sense that sulfur is mafia, and he knew that Rels was town.
Holy shit I just had an epiphany, goosebumps down my spine.
Give me a few minutes to put together a case.
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On June 16 2015 06:39 ruXxar wrote:Show nested quote +On June 16 2015 06:33 ruXxar wrote:On June 16 2015 06:31 batsnacks wrote:On June 16 2015 06:27 ruXxar wrote:On June 16 2015 06:24 WaveofShadow wrote:On June 16 2015 06:21 ruXxar wrote:On June 16 2015 06:14 batsnacks wrote:On June 16 2015 06:12 ruXxar wrote:On June 16 2015 06:10 batsnacks wrote:On June 16 2015 06:09 ruXxar wrote:
If for any reason sulfurus flips and he's red, you can lynch me next night 100%, I won't even be mad.
I'm that confident in my read. 1 post ago you just explained that sulfurus flipping red makes you town. Even though you were wrong wtf even is this? Please quote the post where I said this: ARE YOU SERIOUS??? On June 16 2015 06:05 ruXxar wrote:
Because if he's mafia and i'm mafia and I still try to protect him despite the fact that he has given up then I'm an idiot no?
Basically what wave said.
You misunderstood completely. That sentence says that if he's a mafia given up the game, and I'm also a mafia, then I'm idiot for defending him. Ergo only an idiot mafia would defend sulfurus if he's red. I'd like to think I'm better than that so I would've bussed sulfur a long time ago if I actually was his mafia buddy. As for why sulfur isn't mafia in an isolated scope, I've already made that argument before. You're right about the earlier stuff, and it isn't all that convincing, but I've already explained why your case for Sulf being town is pretty worthless. The more convincing argument is actually the TMI, and even though I have a hard time believing you're right, it still makes you look scummy either in which case the play would be to lynch you first. I'm going to hold off for now and let some other people comment on this because it's been beaten to death. Damdred and Scott I'm particularly interested in what you two have to say. Are you going to explain what TMI is in the context of mafia? I did not find any reference acronym in the mafiascum wiki. It means you have too much information about the alignments of other players i.e. there is no way you should be confident in sulfur's alignment if you are town because sulfur has not provided enough information to make that determination. You especially should not be confident enough to risk your place in the game for sulfur. A common mafia tell is giving out townreads for unsound reasons. I found my reasons to be very sound. I imagined myself in sulfurus position, and not in a million years would I have made that same play that he has as mafia. Now that I think about it again, what made the play seems very bad from sulfur is the fact that we thought he was associated with Rels. But imagine for a second that rels isn't mafia.Now what the situation was earlier was that Sulfurus was leading in votes, and then Trfel makes a read on rels that actually steals votes away from bats who had equal votes as Sulfurus, but was not about to be lynched. In the scenario that rels is town it actually makes sense that sulfur is mafia, and he knew that Rels was town. Holy shit I just had an epiphany, goosebumps down my spine. Give me a few minutes to put together a case.
I said it was gonna take a few minutes, but my head is all full of thoughts right now.
I'll sleep on this and reread the filter of those involved, and make the case tomorrow.
One thing I noted was that moosy pushed on sulfur early in the game and also later.
I don't find it likely that both sulfur and moosy are mafia together, so there's that.
I'll get back to you guys tomorrow.
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On June 16 2015 08:22 scott31337 wrote:
I'm tired of Kickstart's excuses, I've been saying he's just playing so much more differently. I mean he could at least do a BH and make up some BS or real excuses for being AFK/busy, but he's not even trying.
Rels did so much effort when he was on the chopping block I am impressed.
KS/Sulf/Rexxar would be where I'm at right now.
I'll be back in a couple hours.
You put ks and sulf together Even though Ks just voted on sulf?
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I have to say I don't mind the Ks train.
I think ks and moosy are highly likely to be together.
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I have a good feeling this is going to be very productive
##unvote moosy
##vote kickstart
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On June 16 2015 08:41 Oatsmaster wrote:
I really dont like this kickstart lynch, its coming up super fast and everyone is supporting it.
What happened to lynching ruxxar? I thought that was pretty good.
or damdred.
What don't you like about it?
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On June 16 2015 08:56 MoosyDoosy wrote:Show nested quote +On June 16 2015 08:32 ruXxar wrote:
I have to say I don't mind the Ks train.
I think ks and moosy are highly likely to be together. I'd just like to point out another associative case. Man, am I getting tired of you hounding me ruXxar. All of your points have been useless so far and you've been hopping on and off wagons like it's your job.
Don't worry baby, you also have a seat.
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It's funny to see all these people jumping out of the woodwork to defend kickstart.
*grabs popcorn*
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On June 16 2015 09:04 MoosyDoosy wrote:Show nested quote +On June 16 2015 09:03 ruXxar wrote:
It's funny to see all these people jumping out of the woodwork to defend kickstart.
*grabs popcorn* This is a terrible post. We're asking for points against Kickstart because all I see is people deciding to kill him out of nowhere. If you find it so strange, then you might want to look at your behavior with Sulfurus.
Seems like we hit the right nerve.
#Productive.
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On June 16 2015 09:09 MoosyDoosy wrote:Show nested quote +On June 16 2015 09:07 ruXxar wrote:On June 16 2015 09:04 MoosyDoosy wrote:On June 16 2015 09:03 ruXxar wrote:
It's funny to see all these people jumping out of the woodwork to defend kickstart.
*grabs popcorn* This is a terrible post. We're asking for points against Kickstart because all I see is people deciding to kill him out of nowhere. If you find it so strange, then you might want to look at your behavior with Sulfurus. Seems like we hit the right nerve. #Productive. ^ This is an even worse post. You're trying to make it seem like your post was bait when it wasn't even intended that way. Keep them terrible posts coming ruXxar, and while you're on that, make more associative cases and jump on more wagons. Don't forget that you had the same behavior with Sulfurus, so we might have to look into that bb. 
You activated my trap card baby. <3
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Here's my quick morning thoughts before I go to work.
People I wouldn't be sad seeing die due to a total lack of contribution to the game:
Kickstart.
Sulfurus.
Thoughts about alignments:
If sulfurus is mafia, then Rels can not be mafia. not in a fucking million years. I refuse to believe it.
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I'll be analyzing the Kickstart train and the responses it evoked in people later today.
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Just a friendly reminder to my fellow townies.
Just because you are not the target of suspicion right now does not mean you have a valid excuse to stay inactive.
Help us hunt mafia. Please!
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On June 16 2015 15:32 Sulfurus wrote:K I just realized that Oats is scummy. I looked through his filter and minus the fluff it's just him asking questions (interspersed with attempts to discredit towny posts) Now I'm sure n00b would be quick to remind me that asking questions is actually towny as it provides valuable scum hunting information But even if Oats has gotten anything from his posts he hasn't actually provided any of it to the thread in fact it's likely that his questions are helping mafia more then town. ##Vote: Oatsmaster
What do you think about kickstart ?
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On June 17 2015 01:28 batsnacks wrote:
It's my birthday so... Lynch ruxxar/sulf. Maybe kick if you need to but you better have better reasons then 'afk.' I'll try to check in before deadline.
Read the last few pages.
A lot of good points gave been made besides afk.
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On June 17 2015 01:38 Rels wrote:
Also, I will probably be sleeping at deadline as it is at midnight for me and I he got a job now /brag.
Congratulations !! 
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On June 17 2015 01:28 batsnacks wrote:
It's my birthday so... Lynch ruxxar/sulf. Maybe kick if you need to but you better have better reasons then 'afk.' I'll try to check in before deadline.
Also happy birthday
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What is concerning you about trfel?
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On June 17 2015 03:57 Sulfurus wrote:Show nested quote +On June 16 2015 19:25 ruXxar wrote:On June 16 2015 15:32 Sulfurus wrote:K I just realized that Oats is scummy. I looked through his filter and minus the fluff it's just him asking questions (interspersed with attempts to discredit towny posts) Now I'm sure n00b would be quick to remind me that asking questions is actually towny as it provides valuable scum hunting information But even if Oats has gotten anything from his posts he hasn't actually provided any of it to the thread in fact it's likely that his questions are helping mafia more then town. ##Vote: Oatsmaster What do you think about kickstart ? Sorry if I didn't make myself clear but this is the exact problem I was trying to fix. You see Oats is mafia but not the one you have been looking for because you guys have been too tunnel visioned on Kicks.Anyway I still think Kicks is mafia and will switch my vote to him to save a town but if there is a mafia we will lose to it will probably be Oats
What in the world is this crap of a post ?!
Once again you're making my brain hurt.
Can you for once just try to be clear in what you're saying and why you're saying it?!
I want to believe that you're just a bad townie but you're really stretching it here.
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