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On May 26 2015 12:15 Fecalfeast wrote:damdred was replaced very abruptly. I hope everything is ok
you ever gonna try and find scum?
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On May 26 2015 12:02 Oatsmaster wrote:
i could kinda see yamato being scum but i think he would be more interested in playing if that were the case.
nvm you are town sandro.
didn't yamato afk basically an entire game away fairly recently as scum? i looked at his TLDB info and he has generally shorter filters as scum vs town. so idk where your interest/activity read comes from.
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also why am i posting about yamato, he is subbed out of the game. ffs.
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Canada11355 Posts
On May 26 2015 12:27 ritoky wrote:Show nested quote +On May 26 2015 12:15 Fecalfeast wrote:On May 26 2015 12:07 27ninjabunnies wrote:
OATS IS IN THIS GAME?!
damdred was replaced very abruptly. I hope everything is ok you ever gonna try and find scum?
you ever gonna try and be useful?
Gonna push a townie with no real reasons instead? ok
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On May 26 2015 11:51 ritoky wrote:Show nested quote +On May 26 2015 11:49 fuba wrote:On May 26 2015 10:37 Damdred wrote:I think that Fuba is the most likely scum in the game at this point. There are several things that bring me to this. The first thing that caught my attention is one of the first posts in the game that he makes. + Show Spoiler +On May 23 2015 02:13 fuba wrote:
Good morning~
I've just recently woken up and have caught up with the thread. Kinda have to read some filters to get some actual opinions though. Lemme know if there's anything you'd like me to look at specifically ^^
A few questions:
1) Is geript prone to faking those kind of angry posts as scum? I don't know if I agree with his outcome yet, but the post itself definitely makes me read him as town.
2) Has Yamato rolled scum a lot lately? I don't remember much of his townplay (my memory is sketchy at best -_- ), but if I correctly remember the general tone of his scumplay after he's rolled scum a few games in a row, it felt like his play this game - simply throwing out assorted thoughts without taking a more active part in the game. What is the point of this post and what do you gain from it exactly? To me this post looks a lot like someone who is trying to look like they are doing something without actually drawing any conclusions for the most part from it. For example he has a town read(?) on geript in this post from him getting angry but he phrases it in such a way that it does not seem to me at least that he believes in what he is saying at all. his questions about yamato are also a bit odd to me? Whats the point of this question? There is none once again it just looks like someone trying to fit in while doing nothing. This post has no follow up also in his filter, he gives the excuse tha the is busy at a birthday party at the time which is probably true no reason to think hes lying about that. However there is no mention of the information or what the questions mean at all or why he would even ask them and this leads to his next post. [spoiler[ On May 24 2015 01:57 fuba wrote:
Bleh, I hate D1. Too much relies on some level of meta, and I have trouble remembering what's happened in a current game, let alone a variety of previous ones...
I could lynch geript. I'm having a lot of trouble sorting out my thoughts, probably because of my time crunch. I think most of HF's points in general have merit, though I think he's throwing around the word "lying" a bit too much. I agree with ritoky and sandroba regarding geript's "double dipping" on his 27nb read. Seems strange to both call a read/vote trolling and then turn around and say that you still agree with the read/vote. As thought he's having trouble remembering his own motivations for posting it. I'm not sure what to make of the fact that he seems to be calmly accepting that he's getting lynched. I mean, I kinda expect him to be angrier if he's a town mislynch, though based on what he and others have said, I would also expect him to be kinda angry to be lynched as scum. He seems to just be resigned to be lynched, so I don't really know what to make of it. He's offering his reads, as I'd expect a townie to do, but doesn't seem to be really fighting too hard to avoid a mislynch. I'm mostly trusting in HF, if I'm completely honest, to know what he's talking about.
##Vote geript
Not sure if I wish I had more time to think, or simply less to consider XD Time for work, but I should be on break in 3 hours or so. What has HF done exactly to draw so much trust that he should sheep him on someone that at last mention he was town reading him for? A lot of things happened in the thread but this post just reads (still) extremely wishy washy with a lot of room to maneuver his way while still looking good and assigning hf the blame for the mislynch that he thinks is coming. Moving on an overview of his filter shows that he really doesn't have any scum reads currently. He had a scum lean on yamato for over explaining his vote on geript, but he thought about it and says he doesn't have it anymore. His questions lead no where with almost no follow up. hes merely existing within the thread without actually having much of an impact, he promises reads without pulling through. tldr: I think the lack of follow up, the lack of actual scum hunting. The hedging around lynch and pushing most of the responsibility off on hf and the lack of follow up on giving reads himself makes fuba scum. Don't really even know how to respond to all of this, and apparently he's no longer here to discuss it with me. The best I can do is explain my own method of scumhunting, and that never goes well. I'll say that I do a lot of thinking, and not everything I think ends up going in the thread. use your unique method to locate me a scum. at least 1 or 2 paragraphs on the top scum in the game. GO! [/spoiler]
It's not so much unique, as it is limited. I narrow someone's alignment down to a single incident that I feel determines whether they're town or scum. Like with 27nb, I tried to narrow it down to the vet claim (and I feel that's worked out pretty well). For geript I first tried his angry post, then it was his response to being the top lynch (which would have turned out well for geript if I had been here at deadline, but not so great for 27nb). For Slam it was the little "argument" we had.
As such, it's not really something I can just "do". I'll give it another hour of looking tonight, though.
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On May 26 2015 12:32 Fecalfeast wrote:Show nested quote +On May 26 2015 12:27 ritoky wrote:On May 26 2015 12:15 Fecalfeast wrote:On May 26 2015 12:07 27ninjabunnies wrote:
OATS IS IN THIS GAME?!
damdred was replaced very abruptly. I hope everything is ok you ever gonna try and find scum? you ever gonna try and be useful? Gonna push a townie with no real reasons instead? ok
read your own filter. you're not doing town things at all.
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On May 26 2015 12:34 fuba wrote:Show nested quote +On May 26 2015 11:51 ritoky wrote:On May 26 2015 11:49 fuba wrote:On May 26 2015 10:37 Damdred wrote:I think that Fuba is the most likely scum in the game at this point. There are several things that bring me to this. The first thing that caught my attention is one of the first posts in the game that he makes. + Show Spoiler +On May 23 2015 02:13 fuba wrote:
Good morning~
I've just recently woken up and have caught up with the thread. Kinda have to read some filters to get some actual opinions though. Lemme know if there's anything you'd like me to look at specifically ^^
A few questions:
1) Is geript prone to faking those kind of angry posts as scum? I don't know if I agree with his outcome yet, but the post itself definitely makes me read him as town.
2) Has Yamato rolled scum a lot lately? I don't remember much of his townplay (my memory is sketchy at best -_- ), but if I correctly remember the general tone of his scumplay after he's rolled scum a few games in a row, it felt like his play this game - simply throwing out assorted thoughts without taking a more active part in the game. What is the point of this post and what do you gain from it exactly? To me this post looks a lot like someone who is trying to look like they are doing something without actually drawing any conclusions for the most part from it. For example he has a town read(?) on geript in this post from him getting angry but he phrases it in such a way that it does not seem to me at least that he believes in what he is saying at all. his questions about yamato are also a bit odd to me? Whats the point of this question? There is none once again it just looks like someone trying to fit in while doing nothing. This post has no follow up also in his filter, he gives the excuse tha the is busy at a birthday party at the time which is probably true no reason to think hes lying about that. However there is no mention of the information or what the questions mean at all or why he would even ask them and this leads to his next post. [spoiler[ On May 24 2015 01:57 fuba wrote:
Bleh, I hate D1. Too much relies on some level of meta, and I have trouble remembering what's happened in a current game, let alone a variety of previous ones...
I could lynch geript. I'm having a lot of trouble sorting out my thoughts, probably because of my time crunch. I think most of HF's points in general have merit, though I think he's throwing around the word "lying" a bit too much. I agree with ritoky and sandroba regarding geript's "double dipping" on his 27nb read. Seems strange to both call a read/vote trolling and then turn around and say that you still agree with the read/vote. As thought he's having trouble remembering his own motivations for posting it. I'm not sure what to make of the fact that he seems to be calmly accepting that he's getting lynched. I mean, I kinda expect him to be angrier if he's a town mislynch, though based on what he and others have said, I would also expect him to be kinda angry to be lynched as scum. He seems to just be resigned to be lynched, so I don't really know what to make of it. He's offering his reads, as I'd expect a townie to do, but doesn't seem to be really fighting too hard to avoid a mislynch. I'm mostly trusting in HF, if I'm completely honest, to know what he's talking about.
##Vote geript
Not sure if I wish I had more time to think, or simply less to consider XD Time for work, but I should be on break in 3 hours or so. What has HF done exactly to draw so much trust that he should sheep him on someone that at last mention he was town reading him for? A lot of things happened in the thread but this post just reads (still) extremely wishy washy with a lot of room to maneuver his way while still looking good and assigning hf the blame for the mislynch that he thinks is coming. Moving on an overview of his filter shows that he really doesn't have any scum reads currently. He had a scum lean on yamato for over explaining his vote on geript, but he thought about it and says he doesn't have it anymore. His questions lead no where with almost no follow up. hes merely existing within the thread without actually having much of an impact, he promises reads without pulling through. tldr: I think the lack of follow up, the lack of actual scum hunting. The hedging around lynch and pushing most of the responsibility off on hf and the lack of follow up on giving reads himself makes fuba scum. Don't really even know how to respond to all of this, and apparently he's no longer here to discuss it with me. The best I can do is explain my own method of scumhunting, and that never goes well. I'll say that I do a lot of thinking, and not everything I think ends up going in the thread. use your unique method to locate me a scum. at least 1 or 2 paragraphs on the top scum in the game. GO! It's not so much unique, as it is limited. I narrow someone's alignment down to a single incident that I feel determines whether they're town or scum. Like with 27nb, I tried to narrow it down to the vet claim (and I feel that's worked out pretty well). For geript I first tried his angry post, then it was his response to being the top lynch (which would have turned out well for geript if I had been here at deadline, but not so great for 27nb). For Slam it was the little "argument" we had. As such, it's not really something I can just "do". I'll give it another hour of looking tonight, though. [/spoiler]
so you're saying that regardless of everything else. the fact that bunnies knew information from the OP that multiple other players in the game didn't know makes her lock clear as Vet/town?
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didn't know = didn't read
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On May 26 2015 12:06 27ninjabunnies wrote:
Oh i read that quote wrong. So votes on Geript
Fuba was a person i didnt like, but didnt really talk about him, so wasnt really my reasoning.
I thought sand was on geript, but misread the slash
And yamato, who i thought was a good lynch.
But i also think there is no way ALL mafia voted on geript. Prob just one or two. there is definitely a mafia on me, im thinking two if my read on ritoky and sand is right. And damdred trying to hammer me is a bit suspicious.
??? you mentioned yamato a grand total of once, though admittedly you clearly didn't like him, and fuba was a null read, at least according to your filter?
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rsoul you gotta just decide if you believe her claim or not. cuz she is really not reading this thread very closely lol.
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Canada11355 Posts
Ritoky when you get a real reason to call me scum let me know. "He hasn't turned it on yet" is the only real reason that I don't have an excuse in thread for that I can find for you to call me scum. I've been in thread when I'm around, asking questions and interacting with people.
Are you just looking to throw shit until it sticks or what?
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On May 26 2015 10:03 fuba wrote:
Now I'm being a smartass. But seriously, you expect me to come to the thread with a completely unique idea every time?
nope
i expect you to come to thread with a unique idea sometime. period. a unique perspective. a unique point. something. like i think every single player but you in this game, replacement or otherwise has managed to do so -_- not exactly a tall order
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On May 26 2015 12:41 Fecalfeast wrote:
Ritoky when you get a real reason to call me scum let me know. "He hasn't turned it on yet" is the only real reason that I don't have an excuse in thread for that I can find for you to call me scum. I've been in thread when I'm around, asking questions and interacting with people.
Are you just looking to throw shit until it sticks or what?
no i have a PoE going on and you're in it. also your top/only scum read was the lead lynch for a large portion of the portion of the day and you didn't do anything with it. and quite frankly i don't even know your reads.
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On May 26 2015 12:40 ritoky wrote:
rsoul you gotta just decide if you believe her claim or not. cuz she is really not reading this thread very closely lol.
meh -_- i can see it from town or scum, rit, and i always could which was why the focus on it was so irritating
it's the rest of her play that i don't like. i'll let it go for now; we're not lynching her today anyway
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On May 26 2015 12:43 ritoky wrote:Show nested quote +On May 26 2015 12:41 Fecalfeast wrote:
Ritoky when you get a real reason to call me scum let me know. "He hasn't turned it on yet" is the only real reason that I don't have an excuse in thread for that I can find for you to call me scum. I've been in thread when I'm around, asking questions and interacting with people.
Are you just looking to throw shit until it sticks or what? no i have a PoE going on and you're in it. also your top/only scum read was the lead lynch for a large portion of the portion of the day and you didn't do anything with it. and quite frankly i don't even know your reads.
this is a valid point
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On May 26 2015 12:37 ritoky wrote:Show nested quote +On May 26 2015 12:34 fuba wrote:On May 26 2015 11:51 ritoky wrote:On May 26 2015 11:49 fuba wrote:On May 26 2015 10:37 Damdred wrote:I think that Fuba is the most likely scum in the game at this point. There are several things that bring me to this. The first thing that caught my attention is one of the first posts in the game that he makes. + Show Spoiler +On May 23 2015 02:13 fuba wrote:
Good morning~
I've just recently woken up and have caught up with the thread. Kinda have to read some filters to get some actual opinions though. Lemme know if there's anything you'd like me to look at specifically ^^
A few questions:
1) Is geript prone to faking those kind of angry posts as scum? I don't know if I agree with his outcome yet, but the post itself definitely makes me read him as town.
2) Has Yamato rolled scum a lot lately? I don't remember much of his townplay (my memory is sketchy at best -_- ), but if I correctly remember the general tone of his scumplay after he's rolled scum a few games in a row, it felt like his play this game - simply throwing out assorted thoughts without taking a more active part in the game. What is the point of this post and what do you gain from it exactly? To me this post looks a lot like someone who is trying to look like they are doing something without actually drawing any conclusions for the most part from it. For example he has a town read(?) on geript in this post from him getting angry but he phrases it in such a way that it does not seem to me at least that he believes in what he is saying at all. his questions about yamato are also a bit odd to me? Whats the point of this question? There is none once again it just looks like someone trying to fit in while doing nothing. This post has no follow up also in his filter, he gives the excuse tha the is busy at a birthday party at the time which is probably true no reason to think hes lying about that. However there is no mention of the information or what the questions mean at all or why he would even ask them and this leads to his next post. [spoiler[ On May 24 2015 01:57 fuba wrote:
Bleh, I hate D1. Too much relies on some level of meta, and I have trouble remembering what's happened in a current game, let alone a variety of previous ones...
I could lynch geript. I'm having a lot of trouble sorting out my thoughts, probably because of my time crunch. I think most of HF's points in general have merit, though I think he's throwing around the word "lying" a bit too much. I agree with ritoky and sandroba regarding geript's "double dipping" on his 27nb read. Seems strange to both call a read/vote trolling and then turn around and say that you still agree with the read/vote. As thought he's having trouble remembering his own motivations for posting it. I'm not sure what to make of the fact that he seems to be calmly accepting that he's getting lynched. I mean, I kinda expect him to be angrier if he's a town mislynch, though based on what he and others have said, I would also expect him to be kinda angry to be lynched as scum. He seems to just be resigned to be lynched, so I don't really know what to make of it. He's offering his reads, as I'd expect a townie to do, but doesn't seem to be really fighting too hard to avoid a mislynch. I'm mostly trusting in HF, if I'm completely honest, to know what he's talking about.
##Vote geript
Not sure if I wish I had more time to think, or simply less to consider XD Time for work, but I should be on break in 3 hours or so. What has HF done exactly to draw so much trust that he should sheep him on someone that at last mention he was town reading him for? A lot of things happened in the thread but this post just reads (still) extremely wishy washy with a lot of room to maneuver his way while still looking good and assigning hf the blame for the mislynch that he thinks is coming. Moving on an overview of his filter shows that he really doesn't have any scum reads currently. He had a scum lean on yamato for over explaining his vote on geript, but he thought about it and says he doesn't have it anymore. His questions lead no where with almost no follow up. hes merely existing within the thread without actually having much of an impact, he promises reads without pulling through. tldr: I think the lack of follow up, the lack of actual scum hunting. The hedging around lynch and pushing most of the responsibility off on hf and the lack of follow up on giving reads himself makes fuba scum. Don't really even know how to respond to all of this, and apparently he's no longer here to discuss it with me. The best I can do is explain my own method of scumhunting, and that never goes well. I'll say that I do a lot of thinking, and not everything I think ends up going in the thread. use your unique method to locate me a scum. at least 1 or 2 paragraphs on the top scum in the game. GO! It's not so much unique, as it is limited. I narrow someone's alignment down to a single incident that I feel determines whether they're town or scum. Like with 27nb, I tried to narrow it down to the vet claim (and I feel that's worked out pretty well). For geript I first tried his angry post, then it was his response to being the top lynch (which would have turned out well for geript if I had been here at deadline, but not so great for 27nb). For Slam it was the little "argument" we had. As such, it's not really something I can just "do". I'll give it another hour of looking tonight, though. so you're saying that regardless of everything else. the fact that bunnies knew information from the OP that multiple other players in the game didn't know makes her lock clear as Vet/town? [/spoiler]
I mean, a little bit. There's more to it, though. It was her fear of death by vigi that I found most convincing of her being scum. When it came clear that she was right, and a vigi would have killed her if they shot, that reason went away. But it goes beyond that. Not only would it have been an incredibly elaborate ploy if she was fakeclaiming, I feel like she would have explained the vet difference earlier. It would have been an integral part of her explanation.
Ultimately, either she was lying pretty much 100% of the game, or she was telling the truth. I feel like she's telling the truth.
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okay that's enough for fuba to be town for now.
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rsoul what do you think of this PoE list:
prphlz/sandroba/FF/onegu
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i think i have at least 2 mafia in that list, potentially 3. (i reserve the right for 2 on the grounds that 1 of the claims is fake)
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On May 26 2015 12:49 ritoky wrote:
rsoul what do you think of this PoE list:
prphlz/sandroba/FF/onegu
i want to lynch fuba lol >< i don't see what you see in his posting that makes you think he's town
i'm townreading prp and oneg though and warming up slightly to sandy :/ i think some of my problem with sandy is we're reading posts differently. i haven't decided yet if that's because he's scum or we just don't see things the same
ff has been underwhelming; he's a fine lynch
i actually liked slam's point on va. do you disagree with it? like i know what you think and i saw that, too, but va's completely coasting, and i can't say that i liked the wifom digression much at all, especially with how unnecessarily defensive it was -_-
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