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Barakos
Profile Joined February 2012
Germany358 Posts
May 29 2015 11:31 GMT
#1739
at least this is the answer, if you meant by role-stuff the speculating and not the fact, that we got a claimed cop with two greenchecks, which is kinda hard to ignore.
Barakos
Profile Joined February 2012
Germany358 Posts
May 29 2015 11:43 GMT
#1741
Without any role-stuff I would still be onto sl/disfo, but that's not going to happen today... it's complete bs, to argue about what would happen without roles, when there are roles... you can argue, if they are valid claims or not, but pretending they don't exist and not using this information to your advantage is bad townplay... you need to use everything there is...

i am willing to speculate with you about fake-claims and stuff, because that is the reality the game takes place in, but to speculate, what would be without all the claims is just shutting your eyes and ignoring the major things that happend in the past 30 hours.
Barakos
Profile Joined February 2012
Germany358 Posts
May 29 2015 11:47 GMT
#1744
I am not clearing them, but our claimed cop is onto sulfurus so why not do the same? I could of course waste a vote on sl again like last time but I got someone I can sheep atm.

And I am sheeping our claimed cop and not the confirmed mason, because the confirmed mason wasn't making sense with his vote. :p
Barakos
Profile Joined February 2012
Germany358 Posts
May 29 2015 13:06 GMT
#1752
That would mean plots fakeclaimed having been rb'ed during N1.

So how likely is this.
The setup you suggest is GF, Mafia-RB, Goon vs no known townroles. (Because obviously I am GF, because batsnacks...)
Mafia RB is dead.

This would mean plots claims into a completely unknown setup (and given the scum-setup you suggest, scum would assume there are a lot of town-roles) with the risk of being counterclaimed by the actual town-rb in a situation where it is completely unnecessary, because neither him nor I were under any real suspicion going into D2.
How likely do you think that is?

To me it seems you are so fixated on plots being scum that you just don't see the most-probable option, which is, that his claim is true.
It's almost like a few hours ago, when plots was all "boxer is gonna counterclaim tictock and then we all lynch tictock".
Barakos
Profile Joined February 2012
Germany358 Posts
May 29 2015 14:22 GMT
#1765
... and here we see TicTock - the confirmed town - trying to throw the game.

The funny thing is, even after plots flips green, I'm still not cleared, cause there is still godfather, so please lynch me to at least confirm plots as town. -.-

Can't believe I am suggesting this, but the amount of stupidity, tictock is vomiting in the thread atm is unbearable.

So - please lynch me to confirm plots. -.-'
Barakos
Profile Joined February 2012
Germany358 Posts
May 29 2015 16:32 GMT
#1780
If your vote actually stays on plots and you flip green after the game, I'll be referring to you as donkey for the rest of my tl-mafia-carreer.
You will not care about this atm, cause you are riding the crazy-train but oneday this will come back to haunt you!
Barakos
Profile Joined February 2012
Germany358 Posts
May 29 2015 16:51 GMT
#1799
On May 30 2015 01:47 Tictock wrote:
Hole crap do I have to keep spelling this out for everyone?

Plots is Mafia Goon. Bara is GF

He was willing to play so crazy today because between the check from bats and his invented RB stuff, which we only have word of through plots and Bara, would give Bara plenty of towncred to ride out much of the game. Especially when Town is so willing to sit around lynching people not talking much.

These 2 people are the only ones saying I made some crazy defense of Sul here, when it's at best a null read.

They are also the only 2 clinging to this RB role, since it's what their towncred relies on.


Even then, you lynch me first, becaus in your twisted world, where this doesn't make sense, you still get a chance of rescuing this shit-read you got on the two of us and not lynch the claimed rb but the claimed town, because then you don't risk lynching your powerrole, which can still save your ass from being lynched ffs...

if you actually believe in this pile of crap of a theory yuo have there I am the lynch, not plots. -.-
Barakos
Profile Joined February 2012
Germany358 Posts
May 29 2015 21:22 GMT
#1903
This seals it for me, too. Said I would sheep bats, so here we go.

[/b]##unvote
vote: 27ninjabunnies[b]
Barakos
Profile Joined February 2012
Germany358 Posts
May 29 2015 21:22 GMT
#1904
##unvote
vote: 27ninjabunnies


hard things are hard!
Barakos
Profile Joined February 2012
Germany358 Posts
May 29 2015 21:54 GMT
#1922
##unvote
##vote sulfurus
Barakos
Profile Joined February 2012
Germany358 Posts
May 29 2015 22:32 GMT
#1948
well... let's see, what happens at night...
Barakos
Profile Joined February 2012
Germany358 Posts
May 30 2015 21:57 GMT
#1997
don't block tictock.. he is like the only confirmed town besides you.

potential mafia at this point are bunnies, disfo, boxer, sl. (bats too, but blocking him seems pointless, cause he is most likely killed tonight, if he is actually cop)

If I were you, I'd pick one of those. Not saying anything more. ^^

Someone said pick someone, who seems towny, cause this might make for a surprise... or pick the most scummy, caus mafia might suspect you to pick someone town.. just please block out of the 4 names.
Barakos
Profile Joined February 2012
Germany358 Posts
May 30 2015 21:59 GMT
#2001
On May 31 2015 06:57 boxerfred wrote:
Show nested quote +
Bunnies: then we have bunnies, who almost everybody thought was scum, where I thought she was just lazy, plus the green-check mechanics gave her an 84% chance of being town than scum (I was wrong yesterday when I thought it was only 80%). Like today it is, 80% when we take into consideration that boxerfred, disformation, SL and Barakos are also in the pool. Usually this is the theory, but does math really help here? Even the math falls, when I start to read 3 of the remaining 4 players town, because it’s IMPOSSIBLE of all of them to be mafia. So what? it reduces it down to 50-60% still. If I RB her, there is a chance we establish her as town, at least more than when she was not RBed in comparison to any players I haven’t RB yet.

Either bunnies or barakos are town, so your list is false. If bunnies is indeed GF, Barakos' green check holds. And the other way around of course. Also, if you are scum RB, both green check hold. So whatever your logic is, it's incomplete.



it's not either or... we might actually both be town... if it was either or, we could just lynch the two of us and get a 1 for 1 trade, but there is no guarantee, one of the greenchecks actually is gf.
Barakos
Profile Joined February 2012
Germany358 Posts
May 30 2015 22:12 GMT
#2003
gg bats!

Let's solve this game...

Who was your block, plots?
Barakos
Profile Joined February 2012
Germany358 Posts
May 30 2015 22:14 GMT
#2004
And boxer: I was not on the to-block-list, because I already was blocked and we need a 2nd person to confirm, that there is a blocker, to beat some sense into tictock.

So blocking me over and over won't get tictock off of plots head and we need a sane confirmed town, to solve this.
Barakos
Profile Joined February 2012
Germany358 Posts
May 30 2015 22:17 GMT
#2009
you blocked sl?
Barakos
Profile Joined February 2012
Germany358 Posts
May 30 2015 22:18 GMT
#2010
ahh... him = bats..
Barakos
Profile Joined February 2012
Germany358 Posts
May 30 2015 22:18 GMT
#2012
great. now tictock is going to go ballistic and vote for you again... -.-
Barakos
Profile Joined February 2012
Germany358 Posts
May 30 2015 22:24 GMT
#2024
ok... mafia from least likely to most likely only based on claims:

boxerfred, disfo, sl (no claims, no checks)
ninjabunnies, greencheck, but possible godfather)
barakos (greencheck, but possible godfather; roleblocked in a night with a scum-nightkill)
plotspots (roleblocker, with one confirmed mafia-roleblocker and no other town powerroles)
tictock (mason, that has gone insane over losing his mason-partner)

mafia based on feeling:
disfo
27nb
bf
sl

would lynch down that list, depending I don't find anything completely spectacular in the filters

for now

##vote: disformation
Barakos
Profile Joined February 2012
Germany358 Posts
May 30 2015 22:28 GMT
#2026
blocking bats is actually a valid play, if you don't believe the claim, since it would have been likely he carrys the kp, cause everybody thinks he is town...

and if he is not fakeclaiming, the chance is high, he get's lynched, cause mafia cant risk another check... so it's pretty low risk, high reward. Don't be mad at plots for doing it / sl for suggesting it.
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