EPTThanks for the info though. That helps me out a bit not feeling so lost with setup stuff.
@plots
Isn't there 2 B's though?
So a single T setup.
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Tictock
United States6052 Posts
Thanks for the info though. That helps me out a bit not feeling so lost with setup stuff. @plots Isn't there 2 B's though? So a single T setup. | ||
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Barakos
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Barakos
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Tictock
United States6052 Posts
I'd still like more responses to those questions I posted. Also Bara. You called my read on you weak since it was based on an old scum game of yours. In case you missed my response. I never read that game, I was just using plots reasoning to RB you as a reason to scum you. I personally dislike meta reads. I thought it was really interesting plots used that as a reason to scum you though. | ||
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Tictock
United States6052 Posts
On June 02 2015 20:06 Barakos wrote: It's just one B - two B would be rb + oneshot rb. God I hate this stuff. It's actually 3B, but it's a moot point kus that just lands us back at a normal Mafia team. Ok so I guess plots is pretty much confirmed town RB then. | ||
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plotspot
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On June 02 2015 20:05 Tictock wrote: No I stopped thinking about SK seriously when you guys pointed out that it doesn't make sense that SK would hold his/her KP. Thanks for the info though. That helps me out a bit not feeling so lost with setup stuff. @plots Isn't there 2 B's though? So a single T setup. No, the B thing is just for Town RB. Mafia setup (+SK) entirely depends on the number of Ts. | ||
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Barakos
Germany358 Posts
Saw you mentioning it in one of your cases and since you used that reasoning to scumread me and build a case on it, you kind of adopted it... which you shouldn't do, because if it's not your own logic, it kinda doesn't belong in your case, if you didn't at least check it. | ||
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Tictock
United States6052 Posts
On June 02 2015 20:17 Barakos wrote: yeah, didn't see that response. Saw you mentioning it in one of your cases and since you used that reasoning to scumread me and build a case on it, you kind of adopted it... which you shouldn't do, because if it's not your own logic, it kinda doesn't belong in your case, if you didn't at least check it. Pretty sure I said something in that case about not believing meta reads actually. Still find it odd that 27nb suddenly was willing to sheep my vote after that case though, not the others. Prob over-thinking it, I guess. Like I said, I thought it was the far weaker case.. | ||
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Tictock
United States6052 Posts
So going forward with thinking Bara, plots, and myself as confirmed town. That leaves Dis, SL, and BF. At this point I'd prob go with BF as top scum, could go either way on SL, and Dis last. I'll try and get on reading some of those filters again when/as we move into day phase. | ||
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Tictock
United States6052 Posts
On June 02 2015 20:16 plotspot wrote: I have no idea about this one shot cop or one shot RB thingy, because we don't even have that here. But if CCMMBTT is considered a fair option, than it's exactly what we have so far. No, the B thing is just for Town RB. Mafia setup (+SK) entirely depends on the number of Ts. Your right, I was misreading that still. Really not a fan of these semi-open setups. Maybe I'm just too new here to have a solid feel on it. | ||
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disformation
Germany8352 Posts
tldr: got pocketed by this: On June 02 2015 01:13 27ninjabunnies wrote: @Dis- see that is why I read you as town. The link actually sent me to a read on why you went between me and sulf as mafia. Your voting logic was from a townie perspective. Even if you went from voting one townie to another, you were atleast reconsidering your vote. Mafia would have just tunneled on me and been like, oh well. She was scummy. And for that I like you. I scrolled down and read your case on BF. So I agree he changed his vote to me after SL did. But he also was considering changing his vote to me after you voted me that one day, which made me read you two as partners. Im not sure how him sheeping other people makes him mafia.You would have to say him sheeping you for voting me also makes him mafia. The one thing I see from BF is that if he is with SL. I agree that SL just dropped off of his scum list for no reason. And plots added on exactly why? I'll look through his filter to see if I can find a connection anywhere. But SL dropping off of his scumlist like that could be that in qt, SL told him to stop bussing. I could easily see something like that. As of now, besides the few problems I have with your case, I really think pressure needs to go on to BF. ##Vote: Boxerfred But I would still like for boxerfred to explain the jump in his reads on sicklucker.  | ||
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plotspot
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Tictock
United States6052 Posts
Would she be willing to throw a vote on her partner yesturday? I really don't think she would given how close the votes were. They could have swung so easily. | ||
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Tictock
United States6052 Posts
On June 02 2015 18:49 boxerfred wrote: SL, why do you get so hard on me now? In case you're wondering if I am bunnies potential scum ally, here you go: D2: I voted bunnies. My vote would have gotten her lynched (it gave her the majority at this point). Bats switched. D3: I voted bunnies. My vote would help kill a scum member. I didn't switch although the claimed cop gave me an easy excuse to switch (if I was scum a member that is). Disinformation switched though, claiming he "flipped a coin". D4: I unvote bunnies, making no difference at all, not even trying to (since it was literally a last minute change). Barakos is a green check, Tictocks. Only case where he'd be scum would be in a GF + GF + RB scenario. However, you tryharding really makes me reconsider the idea of having two masons by now. I PM'ed the host, it's possible there's only one mason is. I want Plots to RB me this night. If nothing happens, boom I'm scum. If someone dies, oh look I'm not scum and we can go for auto in between SL and Disinformation. If it turns out that there is only one mason in (in breshke), well fuck. But tbh I don't think so. I really want to be confirmed as town. It's between Disinfo and SL (it's not like I said this on D2 and D3). I recalled BF making this post. I figured I'd do the same and ask if a mafia setup of RB, RB, GF would be possible. The only thing we can confirm, however, is that we do not know the # of each role. This game... I REALLY have a hard time believing Bunnies would be willing to vote her partner. So BF is prob not scum since she voted him yesterday. So from that logic, 27nb never voted for plots, myself, or Dis... | ||
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Tictock
United States6052 Posts
She did vote Dis D1, and it was in effort to stay off of the scott wagon. Dis is prob not her partner here either... This... kinda leads me back to plots... I mean it is REALLY unlikely that 27nb would vote Dis like she did D1 if he was her partner. No way does she vote on her 3rd teammate when scott is already looking to get lynched. Similarly D4 the votes are too close and can swing too easily for her to be able to risk voting her partner. Sure I get the idea of bussing, but that wouldn't happen unless scum was already being heavily targeted by town. Somebody... is there a flaw in my thinking here? | ||
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disformation
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boxerfred
Germany8360 Posts
On June 02 2015 22:34 disformation wrote: So I was thinking a bit about what happened yesterday... tldr: got pocketed by this: But I would still like for boxerfred to explain the jump in his reads on sicklucker. On June 02 2015 06:59 boxerfred wrote: Ballsy. I had you as scum and you follow my read on bunnies? Well played. disinfo confirmed town. Block bunnies this night please. ##unvote ##vote sicklucker He says "you shouldn't have made the gwagon vs. the top onconfirmed town". Well he isn't. Top confirmed town if bunnies flips red is barakos for his greencheck, followed by plots since barakos was RB'ed by him. He's claiming to be top confirmed town in contrary to dis. Such an aggressive play is something I'd expect out of an experienced player when he sees his scum ally go down. Might be a tunneling thing, but I hoped to put pressure on. Didn't work, he just doesn't care (like as always if there are no votes on him). | ||
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Tictock
United States6052 Posts
On June 03 2015 03:26 disformation wrote: well. bunnies voted me day1 of a constructed connection between boxer and me. boxerfred and sicklucker both voted her d2 and d3. though that could have been attempts to bus... D2 votes could be Bus, your right. D3... nah 27nb was not really the top target. Scum has no reason to bus their partners unless it is highly likely that they are getting lynched that day already. You are right though, the way she targeted you over BF D1 when she "reads" an association between you two is odd. The same kinda odd how she supported my ideas on plots yet never voted him, but was totally willing to jump on Bara. | ||
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Tictock
United States6052 Posts
SL is probably one of the hardest people to read in these newbie games. + Show Spoiler + Another reason I've been suspecting plots. How does he not have that issue? What do you think about my thoughts based on 27nb's filter? Is there much to glean from there? | ||
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sicklucker
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