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On June 02 2015 02:45 Tictock wrote:
So explain to me SL.

How does tryhard Chart making Plots, think Rels is Scum?

How does tryhard super tunneled (like so many of us) plots give such bad reasons for RBing Bara?

How does ANYONE listen to you N3 and RB Bats?

On June 02 2015 16:35 Tictock wrote:
My mind keeps drifting back to this point in the game tonight.



27nb stayed FAR away from my theories when I was tunneled on plots, yet when I switch to Bara she is all over pushing my case.

If both plots and Bara were town, wouldn't she have supported my WHOLE case? Instead she is only willing to talk to me about it when I suggest Bara as a target over plots.

Call me tunneled if you want, but I will never stop asking questions. I don't believe this game ever has "auto-lynch" conditions (maybe in some rare cases when you get the right combo of blue roles), I'd much rather keep thinking than be lazy and try and find ways to play the game without reasoning. I mean... whats the point of the game if not to challenge our thinking?

On June 02 2015 16:40 Tictock wrote:
In that vein of thought.

Anyone care to share their current thoughts on Dis and BF? I'm not seeing scum on them, but my own thinking is clearly biased.

SL as always plays that fine line between shitty town with bad ideas and scum pushing bad ideas. Honestly I don't think my views on him will ever change at this point, even beyond the scope of this one game ...

On June 02 2015 18:49 boxerfred wrote:
SL, why do you get so hard on me now? In case you're wondering if I am bunnies potential scum ally, here you go:

D2: I voted bunnies. My vote would have gotten her lynched (it gave her the majority at this point). Bats switched.
D3: I voted bunnies. My vote would help kill a scum member. I didn't switch although the claimed cop gave me an easy excuse to switch (if I was scum a member that is). Disinformation switched though, claiming he "flipped a coin".
D4: I unvote bunnies, making no difference at all, not even trying to (since it was literally a last minute change).

Barakos is a green check, Tictocks. Only case where he'd be scum would be in a GF + GF + RB scenario.
However, you tryharding really makes me reconsider the idea of having two masons by now. I PM'ed the host, it's possible there's only one mason is.

I want Plots to RB me this night. If nothing happens, boom I'm scum. If someone dies, oh look I'm not scum and we can go for auto in between SL and Disinformation. If it turns out that there is only one mason in (in breshke), well fuck. But tbh I don't think so. I really want to be confirmed as town. It's between Disinfo and SL (it's not like I said this on D2 and D3).

On June 02 2015 19:05 sicklucker wrote:



na your case is just so wild that she would look scummy for supporting it . (and she kind of did to some extent)

How does tryhard Chart making Plots, think Rels is Scum?

How does tryhard super tunneled (like so many of us) plots give such bad reasons for RBing Bara?

How does ANYONE listen to you N3 and RB Bats?

On June 02 2015 19:27 Barakos wrote:
You are tunneling on plots that's not thinking, that's bending posts to your case. Same way you ignored the flaws in your predictions about what would happen N3/D4, same way you managed to see similarities between my game here and my scumgame few months ago, which read totally different... I could go on with that list.

If plots was mafia it is rb, rb, gf vs a single cop + masons. 3 roles, that render cop useless, out of which 1 doesn't even need to target the cop... no way, anybody lets such a setup get through balance-approval. If you don't believe me, look at the setups of some of the other 13p-games on this site, or maybe read some setup-generator-theroy here, to get an idea, what a balanced setup looks like. Will stop talking to you about this.

On June 02 2015 19:36 Tictock wrote:
Like, what if it's 2 mafia RBs, who are weak. 1shot RB's?

What if plots used his only real RB on you to allow him to claim Town RB?

That looks like a balanced setup according to that link.

This is the stuff we need to consider if the setup is weird.

This setup uses a Daystart

On June 02 2015 19:53 Tictock wrote:
@ Bara

I'm trying to understand how to use that site.

If I'm reading it right, if our game got rolled into having 2 RBs, either 2 for Mafia or 1 for each side, then that means one of those RB's has to be weak right?

It also seems to suggest that a single mason setup is considered the same as an Innocent Child role. That would suggest Bre has to have a partner mason.

So following what we know, there are 2 RBs this game, a GF, a Cop, and 2 Masons.

That would mean that the likely setup for Scum is (according to that link)
T = Goon + Roleblocker + Godfather, Serial Killer (Investigation Immune OR 1-Shot Bulletproof)

Am I using that right?