EPTOn May 11 2015 02:54 Superbia wrote:
Scratch ritoky off the lynch list folks.
Scratch ritoky off the lynch list folks.
Not happening for reasons detailed above.
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On May 11 2015 00:14 Half the Sky wrote: Celestial makes a few good arguments against ritoky taking credit but I have to do serious filter diving to make sure the sequence of events particularly with the thread sentiment and his push on prplhz really lines up that way. Otherwise we really could just be paranoid as shit all when y0su could very well be another gimme mafia. Having just filtered him myself his "push" on prpl, if you can even call it that, came when you were already hammering Superbia with "prpl is scum" and so the thread was already full of "prpl is scum". So... Here's ritoky's post on it: http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/mafia/483492-newbie-student-mafia-ix?page=62#1221 | ||
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On May 11 2015 03:11 ritoky wrote: i love these scum cases on me, they list a bunch of stuff and i say to myself "wow that's town" If you think that's townplay and you actually are town you're a horrible judge of townplay. Then again we already know that since you were reading prpl so hard as town despite him doing jack all. | ||
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On May 11 2015 03:19 ritoky wrote: When someone posts the post: "fuck you, i am not posting a lot this game" this directly translates to: "hi everyone, i am a role or mafia". on day 1 you should always play assuming that person is a role. i am trying to teach you how to town. And your response was to unnecessarily call for him to claim it when he was already under heavy pressure anyway; simply so you could claim some credit for yourself despite doing nothing. Bollocks, total bollocks. I don't need teaching by an incompetent player like yourself. | ||
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On May 11 2015 03:23 Half the Sky wrote: Yawn. Standards being the lack of followthrough and the tonal read, this is about the third time or even more than that tone has come up. Also your responses show you aren't critically looking at why he changed direction. Nor did you appear to even analyse my walls of text (other than saying it was walls of text). Having actually read his filter he has hardly looked at anyone critically at all. Despite his complaints that some of the new people weren't drawing conclusions he drew very few strong ones himself, and most of them he went back on anyway or made excuses for. | ||
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On May 11 2015 03:28 ritoky wrote: it was pretty low content stuff hence why i called it walls of text. one of them was even about the princess bride if i recall correctly. so sorry if my critical thinking cap turned off at that point She was explaining the term WIFOM. Which was highly relevant. The fact that you're misrepresenting this makes it even more likely that you're scum. | ||
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On May 11 2015 03:30 ritoky wrote: #1) i have the longest active winning streak as mafia on TL, so uh, gl with that incompetency argument getting you anywhere. #2) you have blinders on: "on day 1 you should always play assuming that person is a role." #3) the forcing him to claim came on day 2 in which i was going to CC him as VT, he claimed when i wasn't here and i didn't get the chance, oh well. sorry bro, you in the tunnel on some bad juice. i think you're town though. 1. "As mafia" means dick all. Your town play here is horrible. Fact. You've done dick all to help us this game, instead spending most of it setting yourself up to claim credit on stuff people were already doing and yelling "I'm town" at every opportunity. None of what you've done is pro-town, in fact you've actively tried to confuse and misrepresent. 2. Which is basically irrelevant. You were still townreading him and nullreading him WELL into D2 until your sudden turnaround, as I detailed in the full analysis of your filter. 3. "You gotta believe me, bro, this is what I was going to do." I actually called out that you'd have this response in response to disfomation getting whacked or lynched after you doing that. Yeah, not buying it. Yeah I'm tunneled, I'm tunneled on either the last scum or the worst attempt to look town in this game barring prpl. On May 11 2015 03:32 ritoky wrote: yes, that is low content. speaking generally is low content, whereas speaking specifically is content. man you are really pissed about something, i hope it gets dealt with so you can be happier. Bollocks, it was highly relevant because y0su asked the question goddamn directly and she took that to assume he didn't know what she was getting at. It was a direct response to a direct question she was trying to answer, specific to a point being made. Hell if you want to argue the low-content thing your filter is FULL of low-content stuff. In fact your strongest town-based posts are low-content ones. As for being pissed, it'll get dealt with when you stop insulting me and get lynched and never bother me again. | ||
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On May 11 2015 03:35 ritoky wrote: starting to lose my caring about this game. people calling me mafia for doing town things is annoying me: You are literally the only person in this entire game saying everything you are doing is "obvious town". You are also the only person in this entire game who has consistently read you, ritoky, as town. And you've been incredibly vocal about that. Either you're a HORRIBLE town player with an ego that makes you think you're amazing or you're scum. | ||
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On May 11 2015 03:42 ritoky wrote: I haven't insulted you once. I have insulted your play though. You have. Get out. Not confirming you, idiot. Get out. | ||
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Before I cased you. And with no evidence. Sure, bro. Get out. | ||
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On May 11 2015 03:35 Half the Sky wrote: I'm seeing similar jumps/misrepresentations in logic as he's making when he was serial killer in Titanic. To be honest that crap is throughout his entire filter. I couldn't believe the amount he'd gotten away with after actually looking through it. Either he's totally incompetent or he's scum. | ||
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On May 11 2015 03:47 ritoky wrote: I feel like I should parrot your ad hominem comment from earlier in response to this, and threaten reports like you did. Bring it on. Don't care. And yes you confirmed me. "Your town play here is horrible" implies you know that I am town. But that's technicalities, you're not typing from your head anymore. Its pretty funny how you honestly think that that implies that you're town. Would you feel better if it read "your attempt at town play"? I was attempting to be brief but if you find it difficult to comprehend if its not spelt out for you I guess I can do that. And I see no need to type from my head in response to your nonsense here. I've already fully cased how scummy not long ago and some interesting talks with HtS about it further. I don't need to convince you, because you already know you're scum. | ||
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I know its okay for Superbia to be wrong. Because the right answer is you, you're the final scum. | ||
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On May 11 2015 03:49 ritoky wrote: You will see what you want to see when you already have the conclusion in your head. Of course I have the conclusion. I've already thoroughly cased you and it turned up red. You're scum. Or a terrible town player. As evidenced by the godawful way you've played this entire game as per my earlier post. Take your pick of the two. | ||
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On May 11 2015 03:54 Superbia wrote: ritoky how would you approach this day as scum? Exactly as he already has been. Misdirecting and hoping for a mislynch. | ||
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On May 11 2015 03:58 Superbia wrote: Like ritoky might be fooling me here but I think he's town. I've never seen anyone get away with being so indecisive and inconclusive without being called on it honestly; and I read a fair few games over Christmas ahead of playing in LX. I think its because he's posted "stuff" without posting anything of real value. If he's town he's been basically useless for this entire game. He's done jack to help and has successfully got a significant number of people reading him in their PoE list. But nah, he's obviously town, because he says so. | ||
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On May 11 2015 04:06 Superbia wrote: I don't believe prp is scum because the wagon on him so obviously contains mafia. prp made himself the easiest bus in the entire universe by doing quite literally nothing for the entire game. Kinda illustrates how screwed he was at that point, really. | ||
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On May 11 2015 04:11 Superbia wrote: Idk, maybe you're right. But that doesn't necessarily makes him town. I do agree that his town filter usually is a bit more proactive, but the interactions between mafia and him feel too genuine for him to be mafia. Also I feel like ritoky would be the first to bus prp. I assume you mean scum where you say town the first time there. Perhaps it does, perhaps it doesn't. What I do know is that we would literally be at the exact same point we are now if he hadn't played at all. :-\ | ||
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On May 11 2015 04:14 Half the Sky wrote: This is exactly why I hate the mindmelding argument. Also the reason that the "their reads match up with my reads" argument is so, so dangerous as one to cling onto. It is most definitely not strongly indicative of anything at all and can be deceptive. :-\ | ||
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On May 11 2015 04:19 Superbia wrote: Yeah. I'm quite tired. I agree, he probably can't live through this game. =/ But for now I don't think he's the most likely lynch. Like I posted the other day, at this point I feel its probably either ritoky or y0su. I wasn't too bothered about which order we lynch them in but right now ritoky has severely hacked me off so I'm voting him first. *shrug* Of course if one gets lynched and the other gets shot then the game gets interesting again. But that never happens because correct mafia play if both are mislynches is to shoot somebody else and let town run with the two mislynches. | ||
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