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On May 03 2015 10:46 Superbia wrote: Why is that important? | ||
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On May 03 2015 10:47 Fecalfeast wrote: Shows you're not being as attentive to the thread as you'd like to portray Assuming I want to portray anything? x: What circle am I in? | ||
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On May 03 2015 10:49 Fecalfeast wrote: I just clicked your colour from my 'slight townlean green' to 'null yellowy orange colour' You monster. | ||
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The entire thing also starts off with an excuse: + Show Spoiler + On May 03 2015 11:34 -Celestial- wrote: Hey guys. Sorry for the late entry. I've been somewhat distracted playing KanColle recently; there's an event on and I'm desperate to clear it, first event I've been in. Anyway there's probably just about enough to write something on most people now so...off we go. Unfortunately in the time I've been away I've NOT been keeping an eye on games going on. Then again I tend to prefer any meta reading from games people have actually been in together. On with the show: What are you apologizing for? This feels like you yourself don't have any faith in your reads. This is likely because you had to fabricate them due to being mafia, because you feel confident enough to start a wagon on scott. Also, starting off with an apology for being late is pretty mafia. There's also a flagrant disparity between what you say about disformation and ritoky (which leads me to believe both are town if you end up being mafia): + Show Spoiler + On May 03 2015 11:34 -Celestial- wrote: disformation starting post I REALLY don't like. However he IS making an attempt to start producing reads. Earnest newbie with a weak entry I think. Weakly town. ritoky's sole post of note is an easy push on disformation. Other than that he's just posting nonsense and off-topic stuff. Coming across as pretty scummy to me; complete misdirection plays. So you say that you yourself did not like disformation's opening post, but you feel like ritoky is scummy for pushing on him? Is it not townie for ritoky to push on something that may very well be scummy? Furthermore, "easy push"? Since when are you so sure that disformation is town? Rest of your reads are pretty fluffy. | ||
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On May 03 2015 20:22 sicklucker wrote: I like your first point and I had the same thought altho I didnt think it ment that much. I think your pretty scummy so far. Like why did you even vote hts.. Because I felt like it? I felt like at least 2 out of 3 mafia were not in the thread yet at that point in time. Stab in the dark pressure. Are you even town? Why would voting HtS make me mafia? | ||
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What is/was your red read on ritoky then? Did you feel a need to include him as scum because you felt a need to put down a team of 3? Why did you mention ritoky's push on disinformation? Also, how long did it take you to formulate that response? I.e., when did you read my post and when did you start to post this? | ||
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On May 03 2015 22:01 -Celestial- wrote: You're defending him by attacking me, who also has a red read on you. That's a classic mafia side play. And now you're trying to distance yourself from it by claiming its reaching a bit. There was already an association between the two of you and you made it stronger with your post. You can claim that its reaching all you want but ultimately the association was there BEFORE you posted, you just made it worst. The problem with this logic is that all that you're saying is that this is my agenda, you're not proving it. Why am I not town trying to figure out your alignment? On May 03 2015 22:01 -Celestial- wrote: I wanted to try and get an early impression of who the whole team might by. My red read on him is as quoted, with the key part highlighted: To elaborate: virtually all of his posts to that point read as someone trying to send down off into discussing other things rather than hunting for mafia. Apart from a very soft push on a very soft target, which I assume was made to make it look like he was actually doing something. It was a weaker read than my read of you and scott given your apparent collusion, but it was still a read. Since then he's done a bit more, but I'm still highly suspicious after that opening since he only started actually doing anything after I pushed him. You have a number of people as null/neutral based on them not discussing the game or actively doing anything (iirc). Why is ritoky scum for doing this? | ||
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On May 04 2015 01:48 ritoky wrote: while i agree with you that the majority of that opening post is meh at best, his scott read is good. you don't seem to mention it as having any value. why? if you disagree, tell me bout it m8. The scott read was okay at best. I don't see how it is very alignment indicative. Did scott really blindly trust me? I don't know. It's not entirely clear to me what scott did that lead to the decision to vote HtS, it was pretty quiet after I thought I caught the slip. To me it felt like there was a bit of confusion from scott's part on what was actually happening. I would like to hear some more from scott on his thought process, but I don't find his vote on HtS particularly alignment indicative. | ||
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On May 04 2015 01:54 ritoky wrote: maybe scott and maybe shining atm are my top 2. not particularly firm on either. am moreso looking for towns right now. i think me, ff, -c- are pretty much town. then superbia, and prp are 2nd tier town for now. I like shining as scum too. I'm undecided on scott. I had him as town early on. I'm decently sure -c- is town here as well. Undecided on prp, but I liked his initial thoughts. Also agreed on FF being town. | ||
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On May 04 2015 01:59 ritoky wrote: it reminded me of how i lynched mafia on day 1 in hearthstone mafia. someone gave a piss poor and inaccurate read on day 1. and then another player immediately agreed with it and helped push it as an attempt to pocket the person who made the read and get in on the ground floor of a lynch. i looked into the accuracy of the read/push and it was complete garbage. in that situation, the guy who follows the garbage read is usually more likely scum than the person making it. that was the case in hearthstone. and i think i poorly explained this one, rip me. Yeah, maybe. I thought he was decently townie before any of that though. I also thought that the interactions between scott and the shining were shady (iirc). Felt like at least one of them trusted the other one too easily (and maybe some pocketing going on). | ||
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On May 04 2015 02:03 ritoky wrote: he made one of the highest quality observations in the thread in regard to shining and i had literally the exact same thought reading the exact same thing: he is also giving definitive alignment reads instead of hedging. if i remember prp's play right he hedges a lot more as mafia. I think the read was wrong though. It was definitely a jokey post. That being said, I didn't like the post regardless. What did it accomplish? The joke and the followup felt very forced. | ||
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On May 04 2015 02:06 ritoky wrote: explain the SL wagon idea, is it pressure or legit scum? I hate that he pre-game said he doesn't play d1. I think SL is usually a pretty easy town read for me (it has to do with activity and the way that he posts), but I haven't read him town at all. | ||
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