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On April 28 2015 02:50 Holyflare wrote:Show nested quote +On April 28 2015 02:31 indignant wrote:On April 28 2015 02:29 Holyflare wrote:Any more you want explained koshi? I can do this all day and all you're doing is making me look more towny  A little more detail on LS would be appreciated. Uhhhh this one might have a spattering of ongoing game in it. There's several factors really, one of them is Palmar's read on LS in (forget which game but we talk about it in the podcast) where he talks about how innocent/honest ls is when responding to things when he's town and how it's not like that as mafia. He'll take many things at face value which I've seen multiple times this game: + Show Spoiler +On April 27 2015 10:32 LightningStrike wrote:Show nested quote +On April 27 2015 10:23 rsoultin wrote:
ah damn that must be my problem :/
oh well
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i give up! Why give up  On April 27 2015 10:33 LightningStrike wrote:Show nested quote +On April 27 2015 10:32 rsoultin wrote:On April 27 2015 10:31 LightningStrike wrote:On April 27 2015 10:07 rsoultin wrote:On April 27 2015 10:03 LightningStrike wrote:On April 27 2015 10:02 rsoultin wrote:
awww making me actually do things :/
such mean, ineffective lodestones y'all are. why doesn't an rsoul get to be lazy when everyone else does it all the time? ;o;
hypocrites!
lol ^^ i gueeeeessss i'll actually read the thread tch When you catch can you give me your reads and thoughts please? <3 nope ^^ gonna keep them all to myself and laugh at you scrubs  have you scumread me yet for not playing? if not... scum!ls woooooot! first scum maybe? + Show Spoiler + No I haven't scumread you because there was others who didn't post yet or were inactive. >> but i'm special at least i was in aperture i'm not special to you anymore, ls? ;o; your words, they wound We already talked about this on skype ofc I still <3 you and you know should know why I wasn't scumreading you this time >.> On April 27 2015 10:43 LightningStrike wrote:Show nested quote +On April 27 2015 10:39 rsoultin wrote:On April 27 2015 10:37 LightningStrike wrote:On April 27 2015 10:36 rsoultin wrote:
lolol
yeah i'm such a prude xP
(actually i don't know why you weren't this game lol ><)
but hey if you don't try to lynch me i'll give you virtual cookies! Because you complained to me post game of Aperture about it. lol >< yes, i thought it was dumb that you thought i should be posting while we were playing voice mafia and that the fact that i didn't meant i was scum here i've just not given a shit for a full 24 hours xP I didn't want to fight you again so early again :O On April 27 2015 10:48 LightningStrike wrote:Show nested quote +On April 27 2015 10:46 Holyflare wrote:On April 27 2015 10:45 rsoultin wrote:
but it's a fighting game!
put em up! -bounces around, throwing practice punches-
seriously, ls, why not fight me? what if i'm...
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-gaspshetotesjustsaidthat- "Gasps he totes just said that" Rsoul reconfirmed old man. She not a old man I met her irl already :O + Show Spoiler +We went to Six Flags while she was in my area There's quite a lot of instances of the above in the rest of his filter, he's also wary of calling rsoultin mafia and he's more concerned with giving her space early to get a read on her than calling her mafia because it made her angry last game (this is adorable btw) Then you take my read on him into account, I semi-read him based on how many excuses he posts in a game to try and avoid contributing and stuff. http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/mafia/480042-tl-mafia-lxx-guardians-of-the-galaxy?user=LightningStrike&view=allread that and just count how many there are, it's like 10,000 a page or something, he's scared to post as mafia and I just haven't seen that here, if you're going to say "meta meta meta" then yeh, that's just the forefront of my read, when you get into the actual content in this game it's quite lackluster but it's ls and i don't expect anything different (sorry dude), there's little posts that make me think it's quite towny though because he totally says things that i'm thinking: Show nested quote +On April 27 2015 21:44 LightningStrike wrote:
Woke up and Breshke is voting for me :O Also I know Breshke can make better posts than he did earlier because I had played with him around 6 times and was able to catch him when he was Mafia once of the 3 times he was scum (Metal Mini, NYE Party(I shot him as Vig) and Titanic before he got replaced by Damdred) but the fact that he got his own original idea on my own alignment although wrong making me double guessing his alignment.
@Xata and Breshke: Maybe talk to Damdred about me because he can read my alignment really good :O
@rsoultin Are you here? I would like to speak to you! things like the above that are just too congruent with the things that i write on my list, it's pretty encouraging.
I personally think that the first part of your post (the honesty thing) is a pretty risky/questionable read. I have no idea why you think scum LS would not be as innocent/honest as a person as town LS.
Dunno how legit your excuse read is though.
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On April 28 2015 02:54 rsoultin wrote:
lol hf >< i find it hard to believe you don't think koshi can post that as town xP
i'll tell you in 48 hours why he wouldn't
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On April 28 2015 02:53 Holyflare wrote:Show nested quote +On April 28 2015 02:47 rsoultin wrote:On April 28 2015 02:37 Koshi wrote:On April 28 2015 02:28 Holyflare wrote:
Jean is in the "maybe town" category because when he did post it was fully articulated and although it came to no conclusion he was well aware that him making that post would end up with him being scum read and he pre-emptively stated it before he made the post. I'm pretty sure i've actually elaborated on that read in this game so far so it's not exactly rocket science. I don't even mind his conclusions because they are technically the correct ones (sandroba so far is scummy but wait and see because maybe he might not be etc). I don't think he's that scummy at all so he's most definitely in the correct place.
Slam is not like you're saying at all. Ever since guardians he's tried to adapt his play style to be a more serious one and actually play the game so when he's actually posted stuff that wasn't serious but was kind of serious it makes it look like rather than trying to blend and act all super towny he was still being care free and having some fun in the game without the need to delve into complete nonsensical posting like he used to.
Just because you don't agree with me doesn't make me mafia it just makes you shit. What Jean did doesn't make him town. If he truly believed in his sandroba read he would feel guilty. I don't even know what you are talking about btw. It just reads like Jean felt guilty and said it and you say because he said he felt guilty he is actually town? stupiest thing I read in a long time. Your version of the Slam meta is terrible. Slam is hard to read. But your new Slam meta is contrived and completely wrong. The old Slam meta is way better: Slam not being happy = Slam mafia. Slam being obvious town = Slam town. Slam being absolutely null but active = Slam is null. You read the null Slam depending if he wants to kill himself for the town when he gets under pressure. Easy. This Slam is way more likely mafia. Maybe he isn't. But you don't fucking know he is top town. ^ i do agree with koshi on your slam read hf lol >< pure speculation. last games he was in were guardians (wanting to be serious to break meta) and aperture (just giddy with his cool role xP) not sure how you arrive at "new meta" based on...guesswork that hasn't happened yet? i based it off of guardians and what people were saying in guardians about his play in omgus where he started to play a serious meta instead, are you saying this was not the case? he doesn't seem serious to me at all this game
lol i'm saying it's a bad read hf
like i could make up shit based on his guardians play, too!
devil's advocate time:
but clearly he was so frustrated with the reactions at his attempt to be serious in guardians that he might very well give up on trying to play serious...he certainly wasn't playing serious in aperture
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On April 28 2015 02:56 indignant wrote:Show nested quote +On April 28 2015 02:50 Holyflare wrote:On April 28 2015 02:31 indignant wrote:On April 28 2015 02:29 Holyflare wrote:Any more you want explained koshi? I can do this all day and all you're doing is making me look more towny A little more detail on LS would be appreciated. Uhhhh this one might have a spattering of ongoing game in it. There's several factors really, one of them is Palmar's read on LS in (forget which game but we talk about it in the podcast) where he talks about how innocent/honest ls is when responding to things when he's town and how it's not like that as mafia. He'll take many things at face value which I've seen multiple times this game: + Show Spoiler +On April 27 2015 10:32 LightningStrike wrote:Show nested quote +On April 27 2015 10:23 rsoultin wrote:
ah damn that must be my problem :/
oh well
##vote: rsoultin
i give up! Why give up On April 27 2015 10:33 LightningStrike wrote:Show nested quote +On April 27 2015 10:32 rsoultin wrote:On April 27 2015 10:31 LightningStrike wrote:On April 27 2015 10:07 rsoultin wrote:On April 27 2015 10:03 LightningStrike wrote:On April 27 2015 10:02 rsoultin wrote:
awww making me actually do things :/
such mean, ineffective lodestones y'all are. why doesn't an rsoul get to be lazy when everyone else does it all the time? ;o;
hypocrites!
lol ^^ i gueeeeessss i'll actually read the thread tch When you catch can you give me your reads and thoughts please? <3 nope ^^ gonna keep them all to myself and laugh at you scrubs have you scumread me yet for not playing? if not... scum!ls woooooot! first scum maybe? + Show Spoiler + No I haven't scumread you because there was others who didn't post yet or were inactive. >> but i'm special at least i was in aperture i'm not special to you anymore, ls? ;o; your words, they wound We already talked about this on skype ofc I still <3 you and you know should know why I wasn't scumreading you this time >.> On April 27 2015 10:43 LightningStrike wrote:Show nested quote +On April 27 2015 10:39 rsoultin wrote:On April 27 2015 10:37 LightningStrike wrote:On April 27 2015 10:36 rsoultin wrote:
lolol
yeah i'm such a prude xP
(actually i don't know why you weren't this game lol ><)
but hey if you don't try to lynch me i'll give you virtual cookies! Because you complained to me post game of Aperture about it. lol >< yes, i thought it was dumb that you thought i should be posting while we were playing voice mafia and that the fact that i didn't meant i was scum here i've just not given a shit for a full 24 hours xP I didn't want to fight you again so early again :O On April 27 2015 10:48 LightningStrike wrote:Show nested quote +On April 27 2015 10:46 Holyflare wrote:On April 27 2015 10:45 rsoultin wrote:
but it's a fighting game!
put em up! -bounces around, throwing practice punches-
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Woke up and Breshke is voting for me :O Also I know Breshke can make better posts than he did earlier because I had played with him around 6 times and was able to catch him when he was Mafia once of the 3 times he was scum (Metal Mini, NYE Party(I shot him as Vig) and Titanic before he got replaced by Damdred) but the fact that he got his own original idea on my own alignment although wrong making me double guessing his alignment.
@Xata and Breshke: Maybe talk to Damdred about me because he can read my alignment really good :O
@rsoultin Are you here? I would like to speak to you! things like the above that are just too congruent with the things that i write on my list, it's pretty encouraging. I personally think that the first part of your post (the honesty thing) is a pretty risky/questionable read. I have no idea why you think scum LS would not be as innocent/honest as a person as town LS. Dunno how legit your excuse read is though.
well it's not exactly the driving force behind it, the combination has worked so far though
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On April 28 2015 02:56 rsoultin wrote:Show nested quote +On April 28 2015 02:53 Holyflare wrote:On April 28 2015 02:47 rsoultin wrote:On April 28 2015 02:37 Koshi wrote:On April 28 2015 02:28 Holyflare wrote:
Jean is in the "maybe town" category because when he did post it was fully articulated and although it came to no conclusion he was well aware that him making that post would end up with him being scum read and he pre-emptively stated it before he made the post. I'm pretty sure i've actually elaborated on that read in this game so far so it's not exactly rocket science. I don't even mind his conclusions because they are technically the correct ones (sandroba so far is scummy but wait and see because maybe he might not be etc). I don't think he's that scummy at all so he's most definitely in the correct place.
Slam is not like you're saying at all. Ever since guardians he's tried to adapt his play style to be a more serious one and actually play the game so when he's actually posted stuff that wasn't serious but was kind of serious it makes it look like rather than trying to blend and act all super towny he was still being care free and having some fun in the game without the need to delve into complete nonsensical posting like he used to.
Just because you don't agree with me doesn't make me mafia it just makes you shit. What Jean did doesn't make him town. If he truly believed in his sandroba read he would feel guilty. I don't even know what you are talking about btw. It just reads like Jean felt guilty and said it and you say because he said he felt guilty he is actually town? stupiest thing I read in a long time. Your version of the Slam meta is terrible. Slam is hard to read. But your new Slam meta is contrived and completely wrong. The old Slam meta is way better: Slam not being happy = Slam mafia. Slam being obvious town = Slam town. Slam being absolutely null but active = Slam is null. You read the null Slam depending if he wants to kill himself for the town when he gets under pressure. Easy. This Slam is way more likely mafia. Maybe he isn't. But you don't fucking know he is top town. ^ i do agree with koshi on your slam read hf lol >< pure speculation. last games he was in were guardians (wanting to be serious to break meta) and aperture (just giddy with his cool role xP) not sure how you arrive at "new meta" based on...guesswork that hasn't happened yet? i based it off of guardians and what people were saying in guardians about his play in omgus where he started to play a serious meta instead, are you saying this was not the case? he doesn't seem serious to me at all this game lol i'm saying it's a bad read hf like i could make up shit based on his guardians play, too! devil's advocate time: but clearly he was so frustrated with the reactions at his attempt to be serious in guardians that he might very well give up on trying to play serious...he certainly wasn't playing serious in aperture
well i assumed that he smurfed in an attempt to try and play differently and the seriousness doesn't even make a difference because i'm quite literally telling you he's not being that serious -.-
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On April 28 2015 02:22 Holyflare wrote:
and actually slam is the one that got cut off when i rewrote the list hence the , was meant to say
"rygart - seems not so caught up in being all serious, got rid of his smurf indentity quickly, random interjections with pictures and nonsense (maybe down, look at later)"
i don't think i say he's being serious at all
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Come at me bro. Come at me.
afk. Vote stays on HF.
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the point quite simply is you're ignoring everything else to base your read on the hypothetical assumption that slam would continue to attempt to change his meta this game...that would be supported by playing as a smurf, but then why drop the smurf mask so fast?
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i will come at you very soon you can just stay at confirmed mafia till then
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Slam has been more serious in his towngames for a long time now btw.
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oh btw. HF claimed pgo and now suddenly can kill me.
hahaha.
ofcourse.
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On April 28 2015 02:59 rsoultin wrote:
the point quite simply is you're ignoring everything else to base your read on the hypothetical assumption that slam would continue to attempt to change his meta this game...that would be supported by playing as a smurf, but then why drop the smurf mask so fast?
holy shit no i'm not
i'm literally still using the same old read i always use on slam, he's not caught up in being too serious, he seemed pretty carefree etc etc etc
why do you keep telling me something that i'm not doing????
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On April 28 2015 02:59 rsoultin wrote:
the point quite simply is you're ignoring everything else to base your read on the hypothetical assumption that slam would continue to attempt to change his meta this game...that would be supported by playing as a smurf, but then why drop the smurf mask so fast?
He didn't have a choice. FF knew who he is.
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when on earth did i claim i can kill you? i just said in 24-48 hours i can prove you're mafia
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On April 28 2015 02:58 Holyflare wrote:Show nested quote +On April 28 2015 02:56 rsoultin wrote:On April 28 2015 02:53 Holyflare wrote:On April 28 2015 02:47 rsoultin wrote:On April 28 2015 02:37 Koshi wrote:On April 28 2015 02:28 Holyflare wrote:
Jean is in the "maybe town" category because when he did post it was fully articulated and although it came to no conclusion he was well aware that him making that post would end up with him being scum read and he pre-emptively stated it before he made the post. I'm pretty sure i've actually elaborated on that read in this game so far so it's not exactly rocket science. I don't even mind his conclusions because they are technically the correct ones (sandroba so far is scummy but wait and see because maybe he might not be etc). I don't think he's that scummy at all so he's most definitely in the correct place.
Slam is not like you're saying at all. Ever since guardians he's tried to adapt his play style to be a more serious one and actually play the game so when he's actually posted stuff that wasn't serious but was kind of serious it makes it look like rather than trying to blend and act all super towny he was still being care free and having some fun in the game without the need to delve into complete nonsensical posting like he used to.
Just because you don't agree with me doesn't make me mafia it just makes you shit. What Jean did doesn't make him town. If he truly believed in his sandroba read he would feel guilty. I don't even know what you are talking about btw. It just reads like Jean felt guilty and said it and you say because he said he felt guilty he is actually town? stupiest thing I read in a long time. Your version of the Slam meta is terrible. Slam is hard to read. But your new Slam meta is contrived and completely wrong. The old Slam meta is way better: Slam not being happy = Slam mafia. Slam being obvious town = Slam town. Slam being absolutely null but active = Slam is null. You read the null Slam depending if he wants to kill himself for the town when he gets under pressure. Easy. This Slam is way more likely mafia. Maybe he isn't. But you don't fucking know he is top town. ^ i do agree with koshi on your slam read hf lol >< pure speculation. last games he was in were guardians (wanting to be serious to break meta) and aperture (just giddy with his cool role xP) not sure how you arrive at "new meta" based on...guesswork that hasn't happened yet? i based it off of guardians and what people were saying in guardians about his play in omgus where he started to play a serious meta instead, are you saying this was not the case? he doesn't seem serious to me at all this game lol i'm saying it's a bad read hf like i could make up shit based on his guardians play, too! devil's advocate time: but clearly he was so frustrated with the reactions at his attempt to be serious in guardians that he might very well give up on trying to play serious...he certainly wasn't playing serious in aperture well i assumed that he smurfed in an attempt to try and play differently and the seriousness doesn't even make a difference because i'm quite literally telling you he's not being that serious -.-
yes you are quite literally telling me that his not being serious makes him scum this game xP i'm aware of that
just as i am quite literally telling you that i'm not convinced that a read should be based on the presumption that as town he'd try to play seriously this game, even with the smurf
that said...i really don't think that read makes you scum :/ cause i see the logic in it
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WHERE DO I SAY THAT SLAM BEING NOT SERIOUS MAKES HIM SCUM EVER?!?!?!?!?!?
MY GOD
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On April 28 2015 03:01 rsoultin wrote:Show nested quote +On April 28 2015 02:58 Holyflare wrote:On April 28 2015 02:56 rsoultin wrote:On April 28 2015 02:53 Holyflare wrote:On April 28 2015 02:47 rsoultin wrote:On April 28 2015 02:37 Koshi wrote:On April 28 2015 02:28 Holyflare wrote:
Jean is in the "maybe town" category because when he did post it was fully articulated and although it came to no conclusion he was well aware that him making that post would end up with him being scum read and he pre-emptively stated it before he made the post. I'm pretty sure i've actually elaborated on that read in this game so far so it's not exactly rocket science. I don't even mind his conclusions because they are technically the correct ones (sandroba so far is scummy but wait and see because maybe he might not be etc). I don't think he's that scummy at all so he's most definitely in the correct place.
Slam is not like you're saying at all. Ever since guardians he's tried to adapt his play style to be a more serious one and actually play the game so when he's actually posted stuff that wasn't serious but was kind of serious it makes it look like rather than trying to blend and act all super towny he was still being care free and having some fun in the game without the need to delve into complete nonsensical posting like he used to.
Just because you don't agree with me doesn't make me mafia it just makes you shit. What Jean did doesn't make him town. If he truly believed in his sandroba read he would feel guilty. I don't even know what you are talking about btw. It just reads like Jean felt guilty and said it and you say because he said he felt guilty he is actually town? stupiest thing I read in a long time. Your version of the Slam meta is terrible. Slam is hard to read. But your new Slam meta is contrived and completely wrong. The old Slam meta is way better: Slam not being happy = Slam mafia. Slam being obvious town = Slam town. Slam being absolutely null but active = Slam is null. You read the null Slam depending if he wants to kill himself for the town when he gets under pressure. Easy. This Slam is way more likely mafia. Maybe he isn't. But you don't fucking know he is top town. ^ i do agree with koshi on your slam read hf lol >< pure speculation. last games he was in were guardians (wanting to be serious to break meta) and aperture (just giddy with his cool role xP) not sure how you arrive at "new meta" based on...guesswork that hasn't happened yet? i based it off of guardians and what people were saying in guardians about his play in omgus where he started to play a serious meta instead, are you saying this was not the case? he doesn't seem serious to me at all this game lol i'm saying it's a bad read hf like i could make up shit based on his guardians play, too! devil's advocate time: but clearly he was so frustrated with the reactions at his attempt to be serious in guardians that he might very well give up on trying to play serious...he certainly wasn't playing serious in aperture well i assumed that he smurfed in an attempt to try and play differently and the seriousness doesn't even make a difference because i'm quite literally telling you he's not being that serious -.- yes you are quite literally telling me that his not being serious makes him scum this game xP i'm aware of that
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