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Aperture Mafia 4: This Time it's Personal

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Snarfs
Profile Joined November 2010
Canada1006 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-03-23 20:09:07
March 23 2015 20:06 GMT
#66
/in

If there's room.

Edit: I'm fine being a replacement if it's full.
Snarfs
Profile Joined November 2010
Canada1006 Posts
March 26 2015 00:00 GMT
#142
Can you clarify this: "You may NOT quote directly any PM you receive from a host or another player."

I just don't know exactly what "directly" means. Obviously I can't screenshot a PM, that seems pretty direct. But where's the line?

Can I say: "VE said ______"?
Can I say "VE said _____ at 10:58 yesterday"? What if 10:58 is a lie?
Can I say "VE told me yesterday ______"?

I'm getting bad memories of English class you must put it in your own words directions.
Snarfs
Profile Joined November 2010
Canada1006 Posts
March 26 2015 05:21 GMT
#156
On March 26 2015 09:34 GreYMisT wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 26 2015 09:00 Snarfs wrote:
Can you clarify this: "You may NOT quote directly any PM you receive from a host or another player."

I just don't know exactly what "directly" means. Obviously I can't screenshot a PM, that seems pretty direct. But where's the line?

Can I say: "VE said ______"?
Can I say "VE said _____ at 10:58 yesterday"? What if 10:58 is a lie?
Can I say "VE told me yesterday ______"?

I'm getting bad memories of English class you must put it in your own words directions.


Almost anything less than a screenshot/direct copy pasting is fine.

I would say a good rule is you may neither post or represent that you are posting a direct copy of another player's role PM. This is to prevent scenarios in which players prove something by matching up time stamps/reading the way in which someone wrote something.

This rule mainly applies to a host regarding certain PMs you recieve in game. In the case of those I would say the best course of action is to simply paraphrase the information.

To be more specific to your questions I am ok with all of them (depends on what fills in the blank, but they look ok) except for the second one. I would err away from that.


Great, thank you
Snarfs
Profile Joined November 2010
Canada1006 Posts
March 27 2015 23:02 GMT
#185
Snarfs' Recommended General Strategy

First, two general tips:

1. Lots of players = lots of confusion. Spam posts should be kept to a minimum as it will be VERY difficult to wade through all the distractions to determine alignment.
2. Role speculation on day 1 is spam. There is no point in trying to guess setup at this point, or talking about how wonderful the flavour text is. It is a distraction from finding mafia/3p.

Now, onto day 1 strategy:

Adventuring Party
I believe our Adventuring Party should follow strict guidelines as to how they act. Everyone should either express their agreement or disagreement with these guidelines as soon as possible so that we can keep track of people's stances before they get voted in. Please let me know if you disagree, and why.

Warrior - Our warrior should be someone who agrees to nominate a lynch based on a plurality vote. He/she should agree that it is important to get lots of opinions on the candidate before deciding on who to vote and SHOULD NOT be someone who will just pick their gut target. We need information from the day 1 lynch more than we need to hit mafia/3p. We need to know why people are for/against a certain lynch. A cowboy warrior will not give us that information.

Rogue - Our rogue should be someone who agrees NOT to no lynch. There is one circumstance I see a no lynch being acceptable on day 1, and that is only if the warrior goes rogue and chooses a target of their preference without listening to town. The rogue should agree to this as the ONLY circumstance for no lynch. Not based on their own 'gut' feelings.


I was trying to think of a way we can focus votes so that we guarantee we don't get a last minute swap of rogue/cleric. I think the only way this is possible is if we can find two candidates who agree to both of the above criteria and try to split our votes evenly to boost those two players.

Normally, this is where I'd nominate myself, but I can guarantee I will NOT be online for the first deadline.


Discuss!
Snarfs
Profile Joined November 2010
Canada1006 Posts
March 27 2015 23:03 GMT
#186
Keirathi, how would you select a candidate for lynch?
Snarfs
Profile Joined November 2010
Canada1006 Posts
March 28 2015 01:09 GMT
#272
At what point in time must the warrior declare who he is going to lynch and how long does the rogue have to respond? I'm assuming we have until deadline to vote an adventure party... then what's the timeline?
Snarfs
Profile Joined November 2010
Canada1006 Posts
March 29 2015 01:03 GMT
#970
i'm voting chez because I think as a warrior whoever he would pick to lynch would be well explained in thread. From his posting I feel like he'd pick someone intelligently and with input from town, he doesn't seem quick to pull the trigger which is exactly what I outlined in our ideal warrior.

I just finished reading the thread and was going back through filters. I'll try to be here for an hour or so then as mentioned before may not be back before deadline.
Snarfs
Profile Joined November 2010
Canada1006 Posts
March 29 2015 01:07 GMT
#973
On March 29 2015 10:04 Koshi wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 29 2015 10:02 Hapahauli wrote:
On March 29 2015 09:37 Koshi wrote:
Jow Hapa. Please come and tell us how Kitaman is confirmed scum.

On March 29 2015 00:12 kitaman27 wrote:
emo koshi did show up in the recent Jack of all trades mafia as town. Not sure if he is trying to mimic the attitude or not. Either way, I'm fine with lynching any drama queens.

Yup. I totally agree.

That's a very good find.
Snarfs
Profile Joined November 2010
Canada1006 Posts
March 29 2015 01:12 GMT
#982
I think Kita's opening and calling out hapa were both mafia-like plays as well.

The opener is sort of a half having fun vote me for mayor post / half serious discussion.

And calling out hapa for being afk seemed premature rather than just waiting to see if he showed up.
Snarfs
Profile Joined November 2010
Canada1006 Posts
March 29 2015 01:18 GMT
#996
On March 29 2015 10:16 justanothertownie wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 29 2015 10:12 Snarfs wrote:
I think Kita's opening and calling out hapa were both mafia-like plays as well.

The opener is sort of a half having fun vote me for mayor post / half serious discussion.

And calling out hapa for being afk seemed premature rather than just waiting to see if he showed up.

No. the point is that he evidently did show up without delivering anything of worth.

Okay let me double check that.
Snarfs
Profile Joined November 2010
Canada1006 Posts
March 29 2015 01:21 GMT
#1000
On March 29 2015 10:18 Snarfs wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 29 2015 10:16 justanothertownie wrote:
On March 29 2015 10:12 Snarfs wrote:
I think Kita's opening and calling out hapa were both mafia-like plays as well.

The opener is sort of a half having fun vote me for mayor post / half serious discussion.

And calling out hapa for being afk seemed premature rather than just waiting to see if he showed up.

No. the point is that he evidently did show up without delivering anything of worth.

Okay let me double check that.

No, hapa was here for the first 20 minutes then went afk. That hardly counts as showing up given how trolly the first parts of these games can be. Then Kita called him out like 17 hours later or so.
Snarfs
Profile Joined November 2010
Canada1006 Posts
March 29 2015 01:27 GMT
#1006
On March 29 2015 10:23 kitaman27 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 29 2015 10:12 Snarfs wrote:
And calling out hapa for being afk seemed premature rather than just waiting to see


Show nested quote +
On March 29 2015 08:43 kitaman27 wrote:
This mafia games aren't exactly straight troll either though so I'm mostly wait and see with him.


Aren't I doing exactly what you're calling me out for with this post?

But that's not what you said originally... It sounded to me like you thought he was mafia 12 hours before that.
Snarfs
Profile Joined November 2010
Canada1006 Posts
March 29 2015 01:31 GMT
#1008
On March 29 2015 10:27 justanothertownie wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 29 2015 10:21 Snarfs wrote:
On March 29 2015 10:18 Snarfs wrote:
On March 29 2015 10:16 justanothertownie wrote:
On March 29 2015 10:12 Snarfs wrote:
I think Kita's opening and calling out hapa were both mafia-like plays as well.

The opener is sort of a half having fun vote me for mayor post / half serious discussion.

And calling out hapa for being afk seemed premature rather than just waiting to see if he showed up.

No. the point is that he evidently did show up without delivering anything of worth.

Okay let me double check that.

No, hapa was here for the first 20 minutes then went afk. That hardly counts as showing up given how trolly the first parts of these games can be. Then Kita called him out like 17 hours later or so.

17 hours later during which one would expect town Hapa to make an impact. He returned a few times later and still did nothing at all.

Couldnt he just be busy?
Snarfs
Profile Joined November 2010
Canada1006 Posts
March 29 2015 01:36 GMT
#1011
On March 29 2015 10:31 kitaman27 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 29 2015 10:27 Snarfs wrote:
On March 29 2015 10:23 kitaman27 wrote:
On March 29 2015 10:12 Snarfs wrote:
And calling out hapa for being afk seemed premature rather than just waiting to see


On March 29 2015 08:43 kitaman27 wrote:
This mafia games aren't exactly straight troll either though so I'm mostly wait and see with him.


Aren't I doing exactly what you're calling me out for with this post?

But that's not what you said originally... It sounded to me like you thought he was mafia 12 hours before that.


Yeah I found it scummy at that point in comparison to how strong he starts other town games I've seen him and he hasn't exactly changed my mind yet.

i'm not convinced he's town either. I'm just also wondering why you would justify lynching a town player.
Snarfs
Profile Joined November 2010
Canada1006 Posts
March 29 2015 01:37 GMT
#1013
On March 29 2015 10:34 justanothertownie wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 29 2015 10:31 Snarfs wrote:
On March 29 2015 10:27 justanothertownie wrote:
On March 29 2015 10:21 Snarfs wrote:
On March 29 2015 10:18 Snarfs wrote:
On March 29 2015 10:16 justanothertownie wrote:
On March 29 2015 10:12 Snarfs wrote:
I think Kita's opening and calling out hapa were both mafia-like plays as well.

The opener is sort of a half having fun vote me for mayor post / half serious discussion.

And calling out hapa for being afk seemed premature rather than just waiting to see if he showed up.

No. the point is that he evidently did show up without delivering anything of worth.

Okay let me double check that.

No, hapa was here for the first 20 minutes then went afk. That hardly counts as showing up given how trolly the first parts of these games can be. Then Kita called him out like 17 hours later or so.

17 hours later during which one would expect town Hapa to make an impact. He returned a few times later and still did nothing at all.

Couldnt he just be busy?

Sure but when he just appears to post something irrelevant and leaves again that doesn't really look like it. You have to keep in mind that Hapa is really good at pushing a thread forward/leading a town while he hates playing as scum.

Oh. Well if i knew he hated playing as scum then it becomes easier to accept this is the play of someone who just doesn't want to play.
Snarfs
Profile Joined November 2010
Canada1006 Posts
March 29 2015 01:38 GMT
#1014
On March 29 2015 10:36 Holyflare wrote:
hapa was playing voice mafia all night

/stirdatpot

What are you implying?
Snarfs
Profile Joined November 2010
Canada1006 Posts
March 29 2015 01:49 GMT
#1028
On March 29 2015 10:25 sicklucker wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 29 2015 10:03 Snarfs wrote:
i'm voting chez because I think as a warrior whoever he would pick to lynch would be well explained in thread. From his posting I feel like he'd pick someone intelligently and with input from town, he doesn't seem quick to pull the trigger which is exactly what I outlined in our ideal warrior.

I just finished reading the thread and was going back through filters. I'll try to be here for an hour or so then as mentioned before may not be back before deadline.


also this is the scummiest post in the game. Like who would trust a chezittwo

Why do you actually think he's scummy? I don't get the bank thing and don't realllllly care at this point. I trust him because he's pointing out things that seem to be helping town find scum rather than mislynches which seems opposite of what scum would be doing.
Snarfs
Profile Joined November 2010
Canada1006 Posts
March 29 2015 02:58 GMT
#1167
HF if I vote you can you not kill Koshi? I think he's town. This may be the last thing I do before deadline so I don't want it to go to waste.
Snarfs
Profile Joined November 2010
Canada1006 Posts
March 29 2015 03:01 GMT
#1179
I got HF, rsoultn, Koshi, kita(because of HF), wave, chez as town. Very similar to crossfire, not sold on keirathi but that seems like a good start.
Snarfs
Profile Joined November 2010
Canada1006 Posts
March 29 2015 03:12 GMT
#1207
On March 29 2015 12:03 LightningStrike wrote:
Snarfs thoughts on me?

Honestly not sure.
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