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Chezitwo
Profile Joined January 2015
United States553 Posts
March 29 2015 17:15 GMT
#1581
On March 30 2015 02:09 rsoultin wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 30 2015 02:06 Damdred wrote:
On March 30 2015 01:57 Chezitwo wrote:
On March 30 2015 01:49 Damdred wrote:
On March 30 2015 01:37 Chezitwo wrote:
On March 29 2015 22:46 Damdred wrote:
Quoting on phone is bad for me rs so I'll just thought dump on him.

I don't like snarls specifically because of the way he approaches kita and hap in general. He pushes against any hapa sentiment and chainsaw defends to me in a few points, and his opening vote was interesting but he gave little to no reasoning or showed what towny things chez was doing. I think he's probable Scum

On March 29 2015 10:03 Snarfs wrote:
i'm voting chez because I think as a warrior whoever he would pick to lynch would be well explained in thread. From his posting I feel like he'd pick someone intelligently and with input from town, he doesn't seem quick to pull the trigger which is exactly what I outlined in our ideal warrior.

On March 29 2015 10:49 Snarfs wrote:
On March 29 2015 10:25 sicklucker wrote:
On March 29 2015 10:03 Snarfs wrote:
i'm voting chez because I think as a warrior whoever he would pick to lynch would be well explained in thread. From his posting I feel like he'd pick someone intelligently and with input from town, he doesn't seem quick to pull the trigger which is exactly what I outlined in our ideal warrior.

I just finished reading the thread and was going back through filters. I'll try to be here for an hour or so then as mentioned before may not be back before deadline.


also this is the scummiest post in the game. Like who would trust a chezittwo

Why do you actually think he's scummy? I don't get the bank thing and don't realllllly care at this point. I trust him because he's pointing out things that seem to be helping town find scum rather than mislynches which seems opposite of what scum would be doing.

That's the 2nd bad or lazy read Damdred made. You can agree or disagree with the reasoning Snarfs made making me town, but he very clearly gave it and more than once. And his filter isn't really long enough to miss these things.


No that doesn't disprove what I'm saying at all. Look at what is aid and look at what he said. He isn't it showing what you are doing he's making general statements without anything to back them up in his posts.

So no it's not a lazy read. Also show me what are these things he's talking about if he's explaining himself well

You literally said he gave little to no reasoning, when he was very explicit with why he was voting for me. I don't understand your point about showing what I'm doing, he doesn't have to make quotes to have a valid opinion.

But I'm not going to discuss this with you anymore, because I'm not trying to convince you of anything. I'm not even sure it makes you mafia, because your comments on how he treated Hapa are fine.


No we need to discuss this.

Your correct in that you don't have to quote etc. To have an opinion. I disagree that he is well or explicit in your reasoning. I find his explanation to be really generic and blanket with little reasoning.


+1 sorry chez

like the whole thrust of his read appeared to be you wouldn't go rogue (lolol pun intended) and do whatever the fuck you want...like saying someone is intelligent and not pursuing (what he perceives to be) mislynches is a kinda weak townread, at least from where i'm sitting

The fact you don't like the read doesn't mean it doesn't exist; namely that I don't seem rash which fits his warrior profile, and the fact I try to look at both sides of the coin rather than pushing people into the dirt (Koshi at the time).
batsnacks
Profile Blog Joined April 2014
United States4466 Posts
March 29 2015 17:17 GMT
#1582
Not Voting (21): justanothertownie, Keirathi, Damdred, LightningStrike, Alakaslam, Crossfire99, HalftheSky, Chezitwo, Hapahauli, Blazinghand, yamato77, ritoky, kitaman27, ObiWanShinobi


Actually... these last 5 hours might be pretty exciting.
VisceraEyes
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
United States21171 Posts
March 29 2015 17:18 GMT
#1583
I THINK happy and BH are D2 on lynches. Hapa more than BH.

I will say that as town Hapa more often than not reads me as mafia and there has been a distinct lack of that this gabe.
if I had to describe his playstyle, it'd be a coked up rabbit with the attention of a goldfish injecting caffeine into himself directly through an IV drip. it's like a reel of random animated shorts where things just blow up randomly
Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30775 Posts
March 29 2015 17:18 GMT
#1584
On March 30 2015 02:18 VisceraEyes wrote:
I THINK happy and BH are D2 on lynches. Hapa more than BH.

I will say that as town Hapa more often than not reads me as mafia and there has been a distinct lack of that this gabe.


despite lack of anything towny but want him d2...?
Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30775 Posts
March 29 2015 17:19 GMT
#1585
also my trfel read is misplaced because I read his scum game and he's wordy as hell so he's competent and could be mafia but I don't see the problem with being afraid of me and then when I try not being so afraid? not really read what you guys said about his reads not being the same as mine though I probably should
rsoultin
Profile Blog Joined November 2014
Netherlands15308 Posts
March 29 2015 17:20 GMT
#1586
On March 30 2015 02:15 Chezitwo wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 30 2015 02:09 rsoultin wrote:
On March 30 2015 02:06 Damdred wrote:
On March 30 2015 01:57 Chezitwo wrote:
On March 30 2015 01:49 Damdred wrote:
On March 30 2015 01:37 Chezitwo wrote:
On March 29 2015 22:46 Damdred wrote:
Quoting on phone is bad for me rs so I'll just thought dump on him.

I don't like snarls specifically because of the way he approaches kita and hap in general. He pushes against any hapa sentiment and chainsaw defends to me in a few points, and his opening vote was interesting but he gave little to no reasoning or showed what towny things chez was doing. I think he's probable Scum

On March 29 2015 10:03 Snarfs wrote:
i'm voting chez because I think as a warrior whoever he would pick to lynch would be well explained in thread. From his posting I feel like he'd pick someone intelligently and with input from town, he doesn't seem quick to pull the trigger which is exactly what I outlined in our ideal warrior.

On March 29 2015 10:49 Snarfs wrote:
On March 29 2015 10:25 sicklucker wrote:
On March 29 2015 10:03 Snarfs wrote:
i'm voting chez because I think as a warrior whoever he would pick to lynch would be well explained in thread. From his posting I feel like he'd pick someone intelligently and with input from town, he doesn't seem quick to pull the trigger which is exactly what I outlined in our ideal warrior.

I just finished reading the thread and was going back through filters. I'll try to be here for an hour or so then as mentioned before may not be back before deadline.


also this is the scummiest post in the game. Like who would trust a chezittwo

Why do you actually think he's scummy? I don't get the bank thing and don't realllllly care at this point. I trust him because he's pointing out things that seem to be helping town find scum rather than mislynches which seems opposite of what scum would be doing.

That's the 2nd bad or lazy read Damdred made. You can agree or disagree with the reasoning Snarfs made making me town, but he very clearly gave it and more than once. And his filter isn't really long enough to miss these things.


No that doesn't disprove what I'm saying at all. Look at what is aid and look at what he said. He isn't it showing what you are doing he's making general statements without anything to back them up in his posts.

So no it's not a lazy read. Also show me what are these things he's talking about if he's explaining himself well

You literally said he gave little to no reasoning, when he was very explicit with why he was voting for me. I don't understand your point about showing what I'm doing, he doesn't have to make quotes to have a valid opinion.

But I'm not going to discuss this with you anymore, because I'm not trying to convince you of anything. I'm not even sure it makes you mafia, because your comments on how he treated Hapa are fine.


No we need to discuss this.

Your correct in that you don't have to quote etc. To have an opinion. I disagree that he is well or explicit in your reasoning. I find his explanation to be really generic and blanket with little reasoning.


+1 sorry chez

like the whole thrust of his read appeared to be you wouldn't go rogue (lolol pun intended) and do whatever the fuck you want...like saying someone is intelligent and not pursuing (what he perceives to be) mislynches is a kinda weak townread, at least from where i'm sitting

The fact you don't like the read doesn't mean it doesn't exist; namely that I don't seem rash which fits his warrior profile, and the fact I try to look at both sides of the coin rather than pushing people into the dirt (Koshi at the time).


lol the fact that you think it fits his warrior profile doesn't make it seem less generic to me this conversation will get us nowhere. i get why he wants you as warrior but not why he's townreading you
"rsoultin: Mafia Suicide Inducer...you have unlimited shots because you are so god-damn relentless." - marvellosity (2015)
Damdred
Profile Joined July 2014
15669 Posts
March 29 2015 17:23 GMT
#1587
On March 30 2015 02:15 Chezitwo wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 30 2015 02:09 rsoultin wrote:
On March 30 2015 02:06 Damdred wrote:
On March 30 2015 01:57 Chezitwo wrote:
On March 30 2015 01:49 Damdred wrote:
On March 30 2015 01:37 Chezitwo wrote:
On March 29 2015 22:46 Damdred wrote:
Quoting on phone is bad for me rs so I'll just thought dump on him.

I don't like snarls specifically because of the way he approaches kita and hap in general. He pushes against any hapa sentiment and chainsaw defends to me in a few points, and his opening vote was interesting but he gave little to no reasoning or showed what towny things chez was doing. I think he's probable Scum

On March 29 2015 10:03 Snarfs wrote:
i'm voting chez because I think as a warrior whoever he would pick to lynch would be well explained in thread. From his posting I feel like he'd pick someone intelligently and with input from town, he doesn't seem quick to pull the trigger which is exactly what I outlined in our ideal warrior.

On March 29 2015 10:49 Snarfs wrote:
On March 29 2015 10:25 sicklucker wrote:
On March 29 2015 10:03 Snarfs wrote:
i'm voting chez because I think as a warrior whoever he would pick to lynch would be well explained in thread. From his posting I feel like he'd pick someone intelligently and with input from town, he doesn't seem quick to pull the trigger which is exactly what I outlined in our ideal warrior.

I just finished reading the thread and was going back through filters. I'll try to be here for an hour or so then as mentioned before may not be back before deadline.


also this is the scummiest post in the game. Like who would trust a chezittwo

Why do you actually think he's scummy? I don't get the bank thing and don't realllllly care at this point. I trust him because he's pointing out things that seem to be helping town find scum rather than mislynches which seems opposite of what scum would be doing.

That's the 2nd bad or lazy read Damdred made. You can agree or disagree with the reasoning Snarfs made making me town, but he very clearly gave it and more than once. And his filter isn't really long enough to miss these things.


No that doesn't disprove what I'm saying at all. Look at what is aid and look at what he said. He isn't it showing what you are doing he's making general statements without anything to back them up in his posts.

So no it's not a lazy read. Also show me what are these things he's talking about if he's explaining himself well

You literally said he gave little to no reasoning, when he was very explicit with why he was voting for me. I don't understand your point about showing what I'm doing, he doesn't have to make quotes to have a valid opinion.

But I'm not going to discuss this with you anymore, because I'm not trying to convince you of anything. I'm not even sure it makes you mafia, because your comments on how he treated Hapa are fine.


No we need to discuss this.

Your correct in that you don't have to quote etc. To have an opinion. I disagree that he is well or explicit in your reasoning. I find his explanation to be really generic and blanket with little reasoning.


+1 sorry chez

like the whole thrust of his read appeared to be you wouldn't go rogue (lolol pun intended) and do whatever the fuck you want...like saying someone is intelligent and not pursuing (what he perceives to be) mislynches is a kinda weak townread, at least from where i'm sitting

The fact you don't like the read doesn't mean it doesn't exist; namely that I don't seem rash which fits his warrior profile, and the fact I try to look at both sides of the coin rather than pushing people into the dirt (Koshi at the time).


No one is saying it doesn't exist, its obvious it's there in its filter. Why you are hard defending the read IDK.

Nor why you are trying to explain how read when he's not giving anything just blanket statements doesn't make the read not what I've said
rsoultin
Profile Blog Joined November 2014
Netherlands15308 Posts
March 29 2015 17:23 GMT
#1588
On March 30 2015 02:19 Holyflare wrote:
also my trfel read is misplaced because I read his scum game and he's wordy as hell so he's competent and could be mafia but I don't see the problem with being afraid of me and then when I try not being so afraid? not really read what you guys said about his reads not being the same as mine though I probably should


i'll be honest, in general i find it strange that people townreading me are more paranoid of me being the awesome tricksy mafia than people townreading you

i'm not arrogant enough to think that i have a holyflare-level scum game lol much less a better one

that said, i think i have a good handle on you now, but i won't know for sure until you roll scum again, so i'm going with that read until proven wrong. yolo!
"rsoultin: Mafia Suicide Inducer...you have unlimited shots because you are so god-damn relentless." - marvellosity (2015)
Damdred
Profile Joined July 2014
15669 Posts
March 29 2015 17:25 GMT
#1589
On March 30 2015 02:11 kitaman27 wrote:
damdred since it isn't completely clear, who are the couple of people you would suggest to be lynched by the elected mayor?


Right now would want Snarfs lynched for reasons stated before.

And hapa because pack of trying.
rsoultin
Profile Blog Joined November 2014
Netherlands15308 Posts
March 29 2015 17:26 GMT
#1590
On March 30 2015 02:18 VisceraEyes wrote:
I THINK happy and BH are D2 on lynches. Hapa more than BH.

I will say that as town Hapa more often than not reads me as mafia and there has been a distinct lack of that this gabe.


and who would you rather lynch?
"rsoultin: Mafia Suicide Inducer...you have unlimited shots because you are so god-damn relentless." - marvellosity (2015)
Chezitwo
Profile Joined January 2015
United States553 Posts
March 29 2015 17:26 GMT
#1591
On March 30 2015 02:23 Damdred wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 30 2015 02:15 Chezitwo wrote:
On March 30 2015 02:09 rsoultin wrote:
On March 30 2015 02:06 Damdred wrote:
On March 30 2015 01:57 Chezitwo wrote:
On March 30 2015 01:49 Damdred wrote:
On March 30 2015 01:37 Chezitwo wrote:
On March 29 2015 22:46 Damdred wrote:
Quoting on phone is bad for me rs so I'll just thought dump on him.

I don't like snarls specifically because of the way he approaches kita and hap in general. He pushes against any hapa sentiment and chainsaw defends to me in a few points, and his opening vote was interesting but he gave little to no reasoning or showed what towny things chez was doing. I think he's probable Scum

On March 29 2015 10:03 Snarfs wrote:
i'm voting chez because I think as a warrior whoever he would pick to lynch would be well explained in thread. From his posting I feel like he'd pick someone intelligently and with input from town, he doesn't seem quick to pull the trigger which is exactly what I outlined in our ideal warrior.

On March 29 2015 10:49 Snarfs wrote:
On March 29 2015 10:25 sicklucker wrote:
On March 29 2015 10:03 Snarfs wrote:
i'm voting chez because I think as a warrior whoever he would pick to lynch would be well explained in thread. From his posting I feel like he'd pick someone intelligently and with input from town, he doesn't seem quick to pull the trigger which is exactly what I outlined in our ideal warrior.

I just finished reading the thread and was going back through filters. I'll try to be here for an hour or so then as mentioned before may not be back before deadline.


also this is the scummiest post in the game. Like who would trust a chezittwo

Why do you actually think he's scummy? I don't get the bank thing and don't realllllly care at this point. I trust him because he's pointing out things that seem to be helping town find scum rather than mislynches which seems opposite of what scum would be doing.

That's the 2nd bad or lazy read Damdred made. You can agree or disagree with the reasoning Snarfs made making me town, but he very clearly gave it and more than once. And his filter isn't really long enough to miss these things.


No that doesn't disprove what I'm saying at all. Look at what is aid and look at what he said. He isn't it showing what you are doing he's making general statements without anything to back them up in his posts.

So no it's not a lazy read. Also show me what are these things he's talking about if he's explaining himself well

You literally said he gave little to no reasoning, when he was very explicit with why he was voting for me. I don't understand your point about showing what I'm doing, he doesn't have to make quotes to have a valid opinion.

But I'm not going to discuss this with you anymore, because I'm not trying to convince you of anything. I'm not even sure it makes you mafia, because your comments on how he treated Hapa are fine.


No we need to discuss this.

Your correct in that you don't have to quote etc. To have an opinion. I disagree that he is well or explicit in your reasoning. I find his explanation to be really generic and blanket with little reasoning.


+1 sorry chez

like the whole thrust of his read appeared to be you wouldn't go rogue (lolol pun intended) and do whatever the fuck you want...like saying someone is intelligent and not pursuing (what he perceives to be) mislynches is a kinda weak townread, at least from where i'm sitting

The fact you don't like the read doesn't mean it doesn't exist; namely that I don't seem rash which fits his warrior profile, and the fact I try to look at both sides of the coin rather than pushing people into the dirt (Koshi at the time).


No one is saying it doesn't exist, its obvious it's there in its filter. Why you are hard defending the read IDK.

Nor why you are trying to explain how read when he's not giving anything just blanket statements doesn't make the read not what I've said

I'm not. I was very clear.

You said:
1. There was little to no reasoning

I said
1. There was reasoning

This is also why I said I didn't want to discuss it anymore.
kitaman27 *
Profile Blog Joined April 2009
United States9245 Posts
March 29 2015 17:27 GMT
#1592
On March 30 2015 02:25 Damdred wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 30 2015 02:11 kitaman27 wrote:
damdred since it isn't completely clear, who are the couple of people you would suggest to be lynched by the elected mayor?


Right now would want Snarfs lynched for reasons stated before.

And hapa because pack of trying.


And how do you feel about the BH suggestion that is being thrown around?
I'm better than dirt. Well, most kinds of dirt. I mean not that fancy store bought dirt. That stuffs loaded with nutrients. I... I can't compete with that stuff.
rsoultin
Profile Blog Joined November 2014
Netherlands15308 Posts
March 29 2015 17:30 GMT
#1593
ah, yes, that reminds me holyflare

what happened to your 100% townread on kita?
"rsoultin: Mafia Suicide Inducer...you have unlimited shots because you are so god-damn relentless." - marvellosity (2015)
Damdred
Profile Joined July 2014
15669 Posts
March 29 2015 17:34 GMT
#1594
On March 30 2015 02:26 Chezitwo wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 30 2015 02:23 Damdred wrote:
On March 30 2015 02:15 Chezitwo wrote:
On March 30 2015 02:09 rsoultin wrote:
On March 30 2015 02:06 Damdred wrote:
On March 30 2015 01:57 Chezitwo wrote:
On March 30 2015 01:49 Damdred wrote:
On March 30 2015 01:37 Chezitwo wrote:
On March 29 2015 22:46 Damdred wrote:
Quoting on phone is bad for me rs so I'll just thought dump on him.

I don't like snarls specifically because of the way he approaches kita and hap in general. He pushes against any hapa sentiment and chainsaw defends to me in a few points, and his opening vote was interesting but he gave little to no reasoning or showed what towny things chez was doing. I think he's probable Scum

On March 29 2015 10:03 Snarfs wrote:
i'm voting chez because I think as a warrior whoever he would pick to lynch would be well explained in thread. From his posting I feel like he'd pick someone intelligently and with input from town, he doesn't seem quick to pull the trigger which is exactly what I outlined in our ideal warrior.

On March 29 2015 10:49 Snarfs wrote:
On March 29 2015 10:25 sicklucker wrote:
[quote]

also this is the scummiest post in the game. Like who would trust a chezittwo

Why do you actually think he's scummy? I don't get the bank thing and don't realllllly care at this point. I trust him because he's pointing out things that seem to be helping town find scum rather than mislynches which seems opposite of what scum would be doing.

That's the 2nd bad or lazy read Damdred made. You can agree or disagree with the reasoning Snarfs made making me town, but he very clearly gave it and more than once. And his filter isn't really long enough to miss these things.


No that doesn't disprove what I'm saying at all. Look at what is aid and look at what he said. He isn't it showing what you are doing he's making general statements without anything to back them up in his posts.

So no it's not a lazy read. Also show me what are these things he's talking about if he's explaining himself well

You literally said he gave little to no reasoning, when he was very explicit with why he was voting for me. I don't understand your point about showing what I'm doing, he doesn't have to make quotes to have a valid opinion.

But I'm not going to discuss this with you anymore, because I'm not trying to convince you of anything. I'm not even sure it makes you mafia, because your comments on how he treated Hapa are fine.


No we need to discuss this.

Your correct in that you don't have to quote etc. To have an opinion. I disagree that he is well or explicit in your reasoning. I find his explanation to be really generic and blanket with little reasoning.


+1 sorry chez

like the whole thrust of his read appeared to be you wouldn't go rogue (lolol pun intended) and do whatever the fuck you want...like saying someone is intelligent and not pursuing (what he perceives to be) mislynches is a kinda weak townread, at least from where i'm sitting

The fact you don't like the read doesn't mean it doesn't exist; namely that I don't seem rash which fits his warrior profile, and the fact I try to look at both sides of the coin rather than pushing people into the dirt (Koshi at the time).


No one is saying it doesn't exist, its obvious it's there in its filter. Why you are hard defending the read IDK.

Nor why you are trying to explain how read when he's not giving anything just blanket statements doesn't make the read not what I've said

I'm not. I was very clear.

You said:
1. There was little to no reasoning

I said
1. There was reasoning

This is also why I said I didn't want to discuss it anymore.


...so basically you are disagreeing with me just Tod o so even though in right?
Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30775 Posts
March 29 2015 17:34 GMT
#1595
On March 30 2015 02:30 rsoultin wrote:
ah, yes, that reminds me holyflare

what happened to your 100% townread on kita?


situations™
VisceraEyes
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
United States21171 Posts
March 29 2015 17:36 GMT
#1596
On March 30 2015 02:18 Holyflare wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 30 2015 02:18 VisceraEyes wrote:
I THINK happy and BH are D2 on lynches. Hapa more than BH.

I will say that as town Hapa more often than not reads me as mafia and there has been a distinct lack of that this gabe.


despite lack of anything towny but want him d2...?

Saying it out loud sounds kinda silly doesn't it.
if I had to describe his playstyle, it'd be a coked up rabbit with the attention of a goldfish injecting caffeine into himself directly through an IV drip. it's like a reel of random animated shorts where things just blow up randomly
Damdred
Profile Joined July 2014
15669 Posts
March 29 2015 17:37 GMT
#1597
On March 30 2015 02:27 kitaman27 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 30 2015 02:25 Damdred wrote:
On March 30 2015 02:11 kitaman27 wrote:
damdred since it isn't completely clear, who are the couple of people you would suggest to be lynched by the elected mayor?


Right now would want Snarfs lynched for reasons stated before.

And hapa because pack of trying.


And how do you feel about the BH suggestion that is being thrown around?


I think hapa or snarf is stronger but I wouldn't cry over bh he has been really disappointing.
VisceraEyes
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
United States21171 Posts
March 29 2015 17:39 GMT
#1598
My issue with snarfs is the really "pro-town" intro post with a complete lack of followup with regard to actually finding mafia and deciding on a lynch target as a town. Like, his whole thing was "I want a Warrior who will lynch according to the majority decision" but has opted out of discussing who actually IS mafia or who SHOULD be lynched today, all day.
if I had to describe his playstyle, it'd be a coked up rabbit with the attention of a goldfish injecting caffeine into himself directly through an IV drip. it's like a reel of random animated shorts where things just blow up randomly
VisceraEyes
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
United States21171 Posts
March 29 2015 17:40 GMT
#1599
On March 30 2015 02:39 VisceraEyes wrote:
My issue with snarfs is the really "pro-town" intro post with a complete lack of followup with regard to actually finding mafia and deciding on a lynch target as a town. Like, his whole thing was "I want a Warrior who will lynch according to the majority decision" but has opted out of discussing who actually IS mafia or who SHOULD be lynched today, all day.

So basically vote for VE's best case in the thread, VE lynches Snarfs the mafia, and everyone goes home happy, yeah?
if I had to describe his playstyle, it'd be a coked up rabbit with the attention of a goldfish injecting caffeine into himself directly through an IV drip. it's like a reel of random animated shorts where things just blow up randomly
Chezitwo
Profile Joined January 2015
United States553 Posts
March 29 2015 17:42 GMT
#1600
HF, you should really vote for someone not-Vayne.
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