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Chezitwo
Profile Joined January 2015
United States553 Posts
March 29 2015 00:13 GMT
#941
On March 29 2015 07:41 justanothertownie wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 29 2015 07:38 ExO_ wrote:
On March 29 2015 07:35 justanothertownie wrote:
On March 29 2015 07:33 ExO_ wrote:
JAT could you give me some actual reads? Like without quoting somebody else and telling me what you thought of their thoughts.

Are you serious?


Yeah. Unless I missed something in the pages I haven't read yet, all you've been doing (in my opinion) is quoting other people and saying what you've thought of their thoughts. That was the case when I went to sleep, and I wake up and here you are again doing the same thing.

Like do you post something that takes information and draws conclusions from it, or do you just thumb up and thumb down everybody elses posts?'

So you missed how I went against Koshi for starters? That has to be the strongest push there was so far and you are telling me you completely missed that?

Do you think your push against Koshi was worth something?
ritoky
Profile Joined March 2011
United States6851 Posts
March 29 2015 00:14 GMT
#942
On March 29 2015 09:13 Half the Sky wrote:
Chez, to answer your question, there are a few people in this community that go against the current meta of posting more = more likely to be town. Obviously if Kita does jack all the next cycle, then obviously that's cause for concern, but there are people like him, LoneMeow and even Trfel that don't post much but they are still fairly readable with the content they have. Kita's posts as town in his town games have generally been simple and either advancing town agenda directly or showing that he's scumhunting. So the volume isn't there, but the content is.

He's not a crazy case maker, nor is he an Eden or a Marv that spams like crazy trying to converse with everyone. But he's still reading as town based on his content.


this is too much explanation for something that did not require that much. you are not going to make my 10
“When interest is at variance with conscience, any distinction to make them friends will serve the hollow-hearted.” -Henry Home
Chezitwo
Profile Joined January 2015
United States553 Posts
March 29 2015 00:15 GMT
#943
On March 29 2015 09:13 Half the Sky wrote:
Chez, to answer your question, there are a few people in this community that go against the current meta of posting more = more likely to be town. Obviously if Kita does jack all the next cycle, then obviously that's cause for concern, but there are people like him, LoneMeow and even Trfel that don't post much but they are still fairly readable with the content they have. Kita's posts as town in his town games have generally been simple and either advancing town agenda directly or showing that he's scumhunting. So the volume isn't there, but the content is.

He's not a crazy case maker, nor is he an Eden or a Marv that spams like crazy trying to converse with everyone. But he's still reading as town based on his content.

Could you just explain a little what in his content makes him likely to be town?

A better question - can you explain what in he has posted you don't think he can post as mafia? What has he posted that you don't think he could fake as mafia?

The Iron Bank thanks you for your continued business.
justanothertownie
Profile Joined July 2013
16318 Posts
March 29 2015 00:15 GMT
#944
This guy refuses to work with the information that clearly proves that what he is saying is a big steaming load of crap to call me scum for something that is de facto not scummy in the slightest and even has the nerve to say I am playing poorly as town. It takes a very special kind of moron to say stuff like this and actually believe it.

From now on I will not reply to anything Exo says about me.
WaveofShadow
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Canada31494 Posts
March 29 2015 00:15 GMT
#945
Hai again guise.
I think there was something I was going to comment on like 10 pages back but I don't want to reread

HF probs town, JAT probs town. Especially 'cause he's being belligerent and numerous.
I think exo vs JAT is probably town on town cause that sort of thing usually is so I'll back of whatever weak bullshit I might have gone and looked at re: exo

Ummm I dunno who's scum really.
twitch.tv/waveofshadow ||| Winner of AHGL's So You Think You Can Cast! ||| Juicy Dad for lyfe ||| 'idk i get a kick out of stupid things' - Jarms Yarng
justanothertownie
Profile Joined July 2013
16318 Posts
March 29 2015 00:16 GMT
#946
On March 29 2015 09:13 Chezitwo wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 29 2015 07:41 justanothertownie wrote:
On March 29 2015 07:38 ExO_ wrote:
On March 29 2015 07:35 justanothertownie wrote:
On March 29 2015 07:33 ExO_ wrote:
JAT could you give me some actual reads? Like without quoting somebody else and telling me what you thought of their thoughts.

Are you serious?


Yeah. Unless I missed something in the pages I haven't read yet, all you've been doing (in my opinion) is quoting other people and saying what you've thought of their thoughts. That was the case when I went to sleep, and I wake up and here you are again doing the same thing.

Like do you post something that takes information and draws conclusions from it, or do you just thumb up and thumb down everybody elses posts?'

So you missed how I went against Koshi for starters? That has to be the strongest push there was so far and you are telling me you completely missed that?

Do you think your push against Koshi was worth something?

I think it was perfectly justified. He has been townier since though.
Half the Sky
Profile Joined May 2014
Germany9029 Posts
March 29 2015 00:17 GMT
#947
VA tends to not do as much as town but tries hard a bit more as scum from what I understand. I'd say a slight town lean for now.

Night kills might be a way to ferret him out - as scum, he tends to be a fan of a "shit up the thread" strategy, so the deaths of people who aren't doing much could potentially be a red flag. I know he mentioned something of the sort in the past.
The phoenix must burn to emerge. - Janet Fitch
WaveofShadow
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Canada31494 Posts
March 29 2015 00:17 GMT
#948
Oh yeah koshi said something derpy and bad-meta-y so he's probably town too which makes me feel better about defending him earlier
twitch.tv/waveofshadow ||| Winner of AHGL's So You Think You Can Cast! ||| Juicy Dad for lyfe ||| 'idk i get a kick out of stupid things' - Jarms Yarng
WaveofShadow
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Canada31494 Posts
March 29 2015 00:19 GMT
#949
On March 29 2015 09:17 Half the Sky wrote:
VA tends to not do as much as town but tries hard a bit more as scum from what I understand. I'd say a slight town lean for now.

Night kills might be a way to ferret him out - as scum, he tends to be a fan of a "shit up the thread" strategy, so the deaths of people who aren't doing much could potentially be a red flag. I know he mentioned something of the sort in the past.

That's not so true anymore honestly. VA is consistently inconsistent, though I'm usually ok at reading him. This game I'm inclined to think town.

The only thing he is consistently good at is blue/3P sniping as scum and in a game like this that's probably irrelevant. If scum he'll be the last to go down and easily caught by that time so I'm not pushing him any time soon.
twitch.tv/waveofshadow ||| Winner of AHGL's So You Think You Can Cast! ||| Juicy Dad for lyfe ||| 'idk i get a kick out of stupid things' - Jarms Yarng
justanothertownie
Profile Joined July 2013
16318 Posts
March 29 2015 00:19 GMT
#950
On March 29 2015 09:17 Half the Sky wrote:
Night kills might be a way to ferret him out - as scum, he tends to be a fan of a "shit up the thread" strategy, so the deaths of people who aren't doing much could potentially be a red flag. I know he mentioned something of the sort in the past.

yuck
ExO_
Profile Blog Joined September 2009
United States2316 Posts
March 29 2015 00:20 GMT
#951
On March 29 2015 09:15 justanothertownie wrote:
This guy refuses to work with the information that clearly proves that what he is saying is a big steaming load of crap to call me scum for something that is de facto not scummy in the slightest and even has the nerve to say I am playing poorly as town. It takes a very special kind of moron to say stuff like this and actually believe it.

From now on I will not reply to anything Exo says about me.


you'll just quote somebody else's opinion on me and say you agree. please continue to add nothing of value to town, ill be happy to lynch your scummy self.
ritoky
Profile Joined March 2011
United States6851 Posts
March 29 2015 00:20 GMT
#952
if elected warrior, I would currently lynch HtS

vote ritoky vote manifest destiny
“When interest is at variance with conscience, any distinction to make them friends will serve the hollow-hearted.” -Henry Home
Chezitwo
Profile Joined January 2015
United States553 Posts
March 29 2015 00:22 GMT
#953
On March 29 2015 08:20 Koshi wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 28 2015 23:59 kitaman27 wrote:
Hapa seems kinda sketchy to me so far. In the shadow game, he preached about the importance of moving forward town conversation and asked a bunch of questions in his early posts to reach that goal. It's still early, but this game he just has a couple bh policy lynch posts.

completely out of nowhere. Both kita and WoS suffer from this phenomenon.

This is actually a correct post from Koshi, but at the same time the longer I do not read a post from Hapa (or one of any worth), the jumpier I get. The Hapahauli I am accustomed to can't help himself wading in.

Unfortunately this makes it quite difficult to read into people calling out Hapahauli - out of the blue or otherwise
VayneAuthority
Profile Joined October 2012
United States8983 Posts
March 29 2015 00:25 GMT
#954
its irrelevant what my meta is anyway in a greymist game, its completely different. I had a massive filter in the last one. There's a lot of setup stuff to talk about and generally more of the stuff im interested in.

I like what WOS has posted on this page though, been a while but it reminds me of his town game
I come in for the scraps
VayneAuthority
Profile Joined October 2012
United States8983 Posts
March 29 2015 00:26 GMT
#955
exo reminds me of a mini me geript.

I sincerely hope somewhere in your role it involves "trolling until you make some one ragequit, granting you immortality"
I come in for the scraps
Half the Sky
Profile Joined May 2014
Germany9029 Posts
March 29 2015 00:31 GMT
#956
On March 29 2015 09:19 WaveofShadow wrote:
That's not so true anymore honestly. VA is consistently inconsistent, though I'm usually ok at reading him. This game I'm inclined to think town.

The only thing he is consistently good at is blue/3P sniping as scum and in a game like this that's probably irrelevant. If scum he'll be the last to go down and easily caught by that time so I'm not pushing him any time soon.


On March 29 2015 09:25 VayneAuthority wrote:
its irrelevant what my meta is anyway in a greymist game, its completely different. I had a massive filter in the last one. There's a lot of setup stuff to talk about and generally more of the stuff im interested in.

I like what WOS has posted on this page though, been a while but it reminds me of his town game


Fair enough. If I should be using other criteria to read VA, then fine.

Seeing as you're (presumably) more experienced, why are you reading him as town then? If not (lack of) volume, then what?
The phoenix must burn to emerge. - Janet Fitch
Keirathi
Profile Joined May 2012
United States4679 Posts
March 29 2015 00:32 GMT
#957
On March 29 2015 09:06 ExO_ wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 29 2015 08:56 Keirathi wrote:
On March 29 2015 08:55 ExO_ wrote:
JAT my opinion of you isn't going to change unless you step it up. I think you are scum trying to slip by with quoting and agreeing with people while offering nothing to the town yourself.

What is up with this push?

Does JAT do what you're saying as town? If he does, why does it make him scum this game??


Im not really willing to use his past play to justify his play this game (assuming it is the same). I think what he's doing now is scummy and not helpful to town. It's poor play and would be really easy to do as mafia. Playing poorly in one game as town will not excuse you from playing poorly in the next game as town.

That said I don't think he's town playing poorly here. I think he's scum


If I make a post every game (no matter if I'm town or scum) that says "I am mafia", then I make that same post in a new game and someone says "Keir is scum because he just said he's mafia", does that make it true? No. Doing something subjectively "bad" doesn't make people scum.

Maybe JAT is scum, but if so he's scum because of the THINGS he's agreeing with/etc, not because of the act of doing those things.
My dear friend if I have gone pants on head, you have gone socks on ears!!! -ShiaoPi
Chezitwo
Profile Joined January 2015
United States553 Posts
March 29 2015 00:35 GMT
#958
If Half the Sky defies the Bank, retribution will be brutal
Koshi
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Belgium38799 Posts
March 29 2015 00:36 GMT
#959
On March 29 2015 09:17 WaveofShadow wrote:
Oh yeah koshi said something derpy and bad-meta-y so he's probably town too which makes me feel better about defending him earlier

It was actually a great point. You defended yourself many times with the whiny townclaim early. "I do it everytime" yabbayabba. You didn't do it this game. gg. scumclaim.
I had a good night of sleep.
Half the Sky
Profile Joined May 2014
Germany9029 Posts
March 29 2015 00:36 GMT
#960
On March 29 2015 09:15 Chezitwo wrote:
Could you just explain a little what in his content makes him likely to be town?

A better question - can you explain what in he has posted you don't think he can post as mafia? What has he posted that you don't think he could fake as mafia?

The Iron Bank thanks you for your continued business.


The post where he calls out HF for his few posts is what jumped out at me. Tone-wise he's pretty strong in saying that and then quoting where HF read into his own games.

The phoenix must burn to emerge. - Janet Fitch
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