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On April 09 2015 23:34 Holyflare wrote:
Quite clearly none of your points hold water in this push and when trying to point out what was wrong in my counter you don't rebut it with anything that makes anyone mafia. Only personal attacks at how I pushed a mislynch.
Why do you think I am mafia?
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On April 09 2015 23:36 Holyflare wrote:Show nested quote +On April 09 2015 23:32 Palmar wrote:On April 09 2015 23:30 Holyflare wrote:On April 09 2015 23:25 Palmar wrote:On April 09 2015 23:23 Holyflare wrote:
Boo fucking hoo. He only looked towny to me in his FINAL reads post. That was what, 30 mins before deadline and yamato was calling for a scummy switch. Yamato wanted to lynch Eden? That'd have been a much better lynch than DR. No he switched to eden with like 30 seconds to go because I told people to switch to eden because yamato was calling for a scummy switch between his scum read and his scum reads scum read for no reason and wasn't being direct enough in a town leader position. I still haven't read like the last 5 pages before the lynch. Who did yamato want to lynch? Yamato's biggest scum read was DR. DR posts list read and people get shaky, me included. Yamato yells that nobody should switch and the lynch therefore has to be between DR, his biggest scum read or vivax, his not really scum read who is scum read by his biggest scum read hardcore. For no reason whatsoever. When asked to explain why he ignored it.
So do you think Yamato is scum?
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So in a bid to switch I said no, why don't you want to lynch eden. Then yamato got whiney. Then he caved. Then eden posted some drivel that seemed slightly sincere so I didn't want to switch after all and at that point it was too late to do anything.
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On April 09 2015 23:38 Palmar wrote:Show nested quote +On April 09 2015 23:34 Holyflare wrote:
Quite clearly none of your points hold water in this push and when trying to point out what was wrong in my counter you don't rebut it with anything that makes anyone mafia. Only personal attacks at how I pushed a mislynch. Why do you think I am mafia?
For pushing an afk gb before he's had time to talk when I think he isn't very scummy at all and meta + general town meta of people claiming vig at start of game. +your only other scum read at the time being me for afking and having "sure reads" on people when I'd only posted for a few hours at the start of the game and wasn't really participating all that much. Basically your scum reads are shit and you refused to acknowledge anyone else as scummy. Your play entirely focused on gb's post about me and obi (yeh great you threw in some town reads here and there when everyone else did, magical) and wasn't that great to continue pressing. You said you want to try hard this game and find mafia but weren't doing that in my eyes at all. Despite what you say you've been doing. When I returned all you did was keep piling more and more things onto an afk gb which he couldn't defend and which you could have easily mentioned during the entire game in a bid to get him lynch. Now you admitted that you fake claimed vigi in order to also push for his lynch.
Also your push on me which clearly outlines that you did not read my filter at all. I outlined why i scum read gb and furthermore why i then town read him later and it's all in my filter but you selectively ignore points like those in a case against me. Mafia agenda. Then when disproven you bypass the initial arguments and instead attack me for pushing a mislynch. You divert any reasons when they fall flat back to the same point which doesn't make any one person mafia ever.
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On April 09 2015 23:39 Palmar wrote:Show nested quote +On April 09 2015 23:36 Holyflare wrote:On April 09 2015 23:32 Palmar wrote:On April 09 2015 23:30 Holyflare wrote:On April 09 2015 23:25 Palmar wrote:On April 09 2015 23:23 Holyflare wrote:
Boo fucking hoo. He only looked towny to me in his FINAL reads post. That was what, 30 mins before deadline and yamato was calling for a scummy switch. Yamato wanted to lynch Eden? That'd have been a much better lynch than DR. No he switched to eden with like 30 seconds to go because I told people to switch to eden because yamato was calling for a scummy switch between his scum read and his scum reads scum read for no reason and wasn't being direct enough in a town leader position. I still haven't read like the last 5 pages before the lynch. Who did yamato want to lynch? Yamato's biggest scum read was DR. DR posts list read and people get shaky, me included. Yamato yells that nobody should switch and the lynch therefore has to be between DR, his biggest scum read or vivax, his not really scum read who is scum read by his biggest scum read hardcore. For no reason whatsoever. When asked to explain why he ignored it. So do you think Yamato is scum?
Seemed towny all day until the vivax/eden situation so just want him to explain his thought process before anything happens.
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On April 09 2015 11:57 DreadReturn wrote:
If killing me clears enough air, then go ahead. I'm not going to take it personally - I understand that the problems with my play.
Just agree with it, and let's talk fresh about Vivax (regardless of what I flip, discussing him now is good). If anything you want me to say lots of stuff about lots of people.
Final List:
yamato - I agreed with most of his full effort read and his list lined up well with mine.
Koshi - same as above. I think this is the style I would like to emulate, but I went too far with the silence. My bad.
Palmar - I always have an (un)healthy starting suspicion for strong players, so it's hard to put him higher.
Damdred - Reasonable posts. I wish he would be a bit more vocal but he is sick or something.
rsoultin - I'm not sure how to explain it ... but something like carefree? Very relaxed demeanor,
Eden - also read resoultin town early and caught the hidden post.
ritoky - has shown he is attentive to thread despite pictures etc.
Glowingbear (?) - Based on his first half D1 play, I'd still say town. D2 total absence and Palmar's insistence makes me iffy.
Onegu - nondescript. I can't really say much.
ObiWan - same here.
HolyFlare - fixated on getting me to reveal my identity ... ? Gives Vivax a pass because of potential, so is ignoring the bulk of my points against him.
Vivax - It's the best I've got. Maybe it's harder to see from your perspectives because I'm so scummy, or maybe my reads are in fact not that good this game.
Good luck town. I'll field whatever questions you have here or post game. (I still might not reveal who I am then for personal reasons, but we can reserve that discussion for then).
this is the post that got everyone shaky? can see why
next time i ask people to tell me what's relevant cause i don't have time to read the last ten pages, work with me -_-
meh i want to lynch vivax still lol >< was guardians outside the norm for his town play cause his play here has been utter shit compared to that, and that's what i'm using as my benchmark? no i don't really give a shit about his filter length when it's that sparse with anything remotely relevant/intelligent/substantial
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Vivax is a fine lynch candidate if only to get him to put some effort in.
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Vivax/HF/GB
Really. It aint hard.
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palmar doesn't want to be shot by real vigi 
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Because he mafia claimed it
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On April 09 2015 23:53 Koshi wrote:
Vivax/HF/GB
Really. It aint hard.
33% definitely wrong
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On April 09 2015 07:32 Palmar wrote:Show nested quote +On April 09 2015 07:21 DreadReturn wrote:On April 09 2015 07:19 Palmar wrote:
Why are you so shit DR? Let's assume that I'm a terribad player Palmar. Where do we go from there? Do we just lynch terribad players and then blame them when they flip town? Talk to me about how crap by Vivax case is. This post actually sounds like something an annoyed townie would write. So I really think we should move on from DR.
Actually rsoultin. This is the first post that made me change my mind.
Read his tone in this post. I'm antagonizing him and he gets mad that I'm doing it in a very towny way.
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If anyone can scum read me after I've been nothing but open then they are mafia or just pretty terrible.
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On April 09 2015 23:53 Koshi wrote:
Vivax/HF/GB
Really. It aint hard.
can someone give me something on GB other than afk?
and that bullshit joke/not joke argument that palmar pulled out his ass? i don't think that the case is alignment indicative for palmar necessarily but the argument was shit, DR said how it was shit, I said how it was shit, GB said how it was shit...more people said how it was shit yet somehow people still like it
so if i'm missing something please tell me
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On April 09 2015 23:54 Holyflare wrote:
Because he mafia claimed it
Or, because I town claimed it.
You just hosted XXX. Do you not think it's a good idea to let me fight a lynch rather than get shot?
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Yeh I'm not bothered if you fight for a lynch to be honest. Just adding points to a list.
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Basically you've put me in a bad mood and I'm a stubborn asshole when I'm in a bad mood.
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On April 09 2015 23:57 Holyflare wrote:
If anyone can scum read me after I've been nothing but open then they are mafia or just pretty terrible.
If anyone can scum read me after I've been nothing but open then they are mafia or just pretty terrible.
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Why would I be able to put you in a bad mood, I'm mafia, remember.
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