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On April 08 2015 03:54 GlowingBear wrote: "I believe in you but I don't really believe in you." I'm confused This is the scummiest post in the thread. In my mind, this here confirms GB as mafia. It would probably be best if we made the lynch today between me and him because I am from this point probably never dropping this tunnel. There is no way I will ever believe he would post something like this as town. I'll explain why. GB's weird assumption is that I have to apply the same standards of believing in everything he says. This is obviously not the case. There is absolutely no need for me to be consistent with what I believe and what I don't believe from GB because I'm valuing everything against what I think. In this specific scenario it goes like this: On April 07 2015 21:41 Palmar wrote: Like to be clear, I BELIEVE you when you say you were not trying to stop the discussion. I have never questioned that. I believe this because if he was actually trying to stop the discussion his attempt was incredibly futile. If he was indeed trying to stop them I'd have expected him to try a much more authoritative tone. "Stop this now guys", or something to that effect. Because his post doesn't really sound like he is actually trying to stop them arguing, I believe him when he says that he wasn't trying to stop them. In this case, his story (I wasn't trying to stop them) is consistent with what I believe (his post didn't look like he was trying to stop them) so I believe him. The reason I assumed he had been trying to stop them before he clarified, was simply that was the only reason I could think of that would make him post that. The other one: On April 07 2015 23:02 Palmar wrote: I don't agree with the bolded. If you read my biggest post, and a followup after that, it's clear that I don't believe you were trying to be funny. It is super clear that ritoky's opening posts are trying to be funny/trolling. That's the difference. I know why ritoky posted. I don't know why you posted. Here I DON'T believe he was trying to be funny or incite a response. The reason is the same as before. When I read his post it simply doesn't sound to me like he is trying to be funny. It sounds lazily exasperated to me. In this case, his story (I was trying to be funny) is inconsistent with what I believe (the post wasn't funny, didn't look like it was meant to be funny) so I don't believe him. Now everything above should of course not really have required an explanation, but I wanted to be extra thorough because this isn't getting the consideration it should. There is no way GB actually thinks that calling me out on being inconsistent with whether or not I believe him, when he knows it's perfectly natural to question some things people say and not question other things, is actually a valid thing to do. There is no reason for him to do this unless he is mafia. I am certain. | ||
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He is a prime target for cop checking or vig shooting though. Although ironically, HF is too. Like HF should absolutely be shot or checked tonight. I am catching up about 8 pages btw, and writing these as I go. | ||
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On April 08 2015 04:24 Koshi wrote: No it isn't. I also have no opinion on Eden. Maybe a slight townread. But hey. Not posting doesn't help him. This is one of the most towny posts in the thread. Koshi now townread. | ||
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On April 08 2015 04:55 DreadReturn wrote: I think Palmer's interpretation of GB's early post is pretty weak. Take the post that Palmer convinces himself with: Two points here: "HF and Obi were having a shitfest" - That's not right. They exchanged maybe 5 small one liners and a picture between themselves. It's a very mild scuffle / banter. If GB could be accused of "stopping" anything, it's mild banter. "The problem I have is that is by far the worst option available" - Palmer isn't actually showing why GB is scum with this. How does this make him scum? He points out things that GB could have done, and then concludes that by act of omission GB must be scum. How? There's a huge logical gap there. This type of weak reasoning could easily be applied to anyone else on those pages, and again, we are talking about day 1 early game banter here. Palmer's analysis is weak because he is either exaggerating or misconstruing what GB said and did, and is suggesting GB is scum without actually giving a reason why he is scum. I hate it when terrible players smurf. 1) argue with semantics. Okay, let's call it mild banter then, fine. 2) No, there's no logical gap. His post just serves no purpose, neither valuable purpose (like scumhunting or thread controlling) nor other purpose (being funny, trolling someone, socializing etc). This post stands out to me because it does. Almost everything else I can at least understand what the poster was trying to do. Posting stuff that adds nothing to the discussion, no matter how awful the discussion is, is a mafia trait. 3) I'm not exaggerating anything. I posted exactly what happened and exactly what my thoughts are on it and why. Why don't you call me mafia if you think I'm being so disingenuous in everything I do? Welcome to #2 on my mafia shitlist. I am okay with this though. If GB flips mafia I'm lynching you for defending a teammate and if GB flips town I'm lynching you for TMI. How do you like that plan? | ||
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I am okay with sheeping my #1 townreadbro. | ||
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On April 08 2015 19:57 Vivax wrote: Didn't understand shit of how the stuff Palmar said makes GB mafia, I'm moving to DR. He thinks it's weird I believe some things he says and other things he says. | ||
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On April 08 2015 20:42 Vivax wrote: Ok I think now I get it Palmar. You need to work on your paraphrasing: P: Don't believe you tried to be funny. G: But ritoky was trying to be funny too! P: You weren't trying to be funny. G: Do you or do you not believe. (-> irrelevant) No. P: Why did you post that post? G: I wasn't trying to stop them or anything. P: I believe that. It doesn't look like you were trying to stop them. Why did you post it? G: I was trying to be funny/inciting a response P: I don't believe that. It doesn't sound funny. G: Why did you believe the first statement and not the second. MAFIA! P: Go home GB, you drunk. MAFIA. | ||
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as an aside, I'm super happy with the pace of this game. It's fast enough to be productive but slow enough to be easily manageable. | ||
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On April 09 2015 04:29 Vivax wrote: If you lynch me while I sleep make sure to vig him or lynch him tomorrow. In case I die I say gg in advance. This is super lazy though and sort of scummy | ||
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On April 09 2015 05:41 Koshi wrote: Are we doing stuff or not? Vivax/HF/DR/GB are my mafia. I don't mind lynching any of them. atm I follow yamato. But I prefer to follow Koshi. I love this list. | ||
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